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Re: Simpl + Change Analog

 

The only SIMPL+ 'event' that will automatically run when the program is
initialized is the Main, so if your Change is running at bootup it's because
something is causing the analog connected to the input to propagate a zero
at bootup (IE: the issue is in your SIMPLWindows code).



There's nothing wrong with encapsulating the output calculation in an IF
statement to prevent a transition of the output you don't want, but it won't
do anything to prevent the unnecessary SIMPL+ thread from being generated.
I'd concentrate my efforts on preventing the input analog from propagating
at bootup.



From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On Behalf
Of constantcharge2
Sent: Friday, May 17, 2013 2:33 AM
To: Crestron@...
Subject: [Crestron] Simpl + Change Analog





Hi All,

Have a issue that has me stumped.
using the below

Change Analog_in
{
Print("Analog_in %d \n",Analog_in);
Level$ = IToHex(Analog_In);
}

When program initializes it enters this module and outputs unwanted code eg
sets hex levels to 0. (turns off amp's)
Is there a way to stop this happening?

my only way of fixing this currently is to do a feedback loop eg

Change Analog_in
{
Print("Analog_in %d \n",Analog_in);
if (Analog_in <> Current_Level)
{
Level$ = IToHex(Analog_In);
}
}


A TPMC-4xg...

Marc Nield
 

…should charge via USB, right? It isn't charging properly in the cradle; the blue light on cradle stays on for about 30 seconds, then it, and the charging icon on the device, go off and the "low battery" warning appears. Via USB the device is recognised but the charging icon doesn't appear.

I tried a different battery with no difference. I also tried cleaning the contacts on the device and the cradle and even scraped them a little with a screwdriver to "clean" them a bit more, all to no avail.

Has anyone seen this behaviour? I suspect, but hope it isn't, a dying device�..

Marc


Simpl + Change Analog

 

Hi All,

Have a issue that has me stumped.
using the below

Change Analog_in
{
Print("Analog_in %d &#92;n",Analog_in);
Level$ = IToHex(Analog_In);
}

When program initializes it enters this module and outputs unwanted code eg sets hex levels to 0. (turns off amp's)
Is there a way to stop this happening?

my only way of fixing this currently is to do a feedback loop eg

Change Analog_in
{
Print("Analog_in %d &#92;n",Analog_in);
if (Analog_in <> Current_Level)
{
Level$ = IToHex(Analog_In);
}
}


Question to the Core3 Experts

joehostyn
 

I see the new mobile app that supports Core3 has been released and I feel it's about time I spend more time understanding it. My hope was it was going to make many things easier, and doable without multiple work arounds. At first glance it looks pretty good, we now have button modes and gestures to use on mobile.

The one key thing I was looking for was a simple way to create flexible scrolling lists. My wish list isn't huge, I'd like to programmatically define the number of items, give each one a serial text join, plus an analog join for an icon or mode.

Hopefully someone out there will tell me after Crestron has worked on this for the past three years and learned from the DNav 'limitations' that they now have made this possible but I'm just to simple to find the right list or secret to CED object to make it work.


Re: Capture Live HD

 

My main issue is that you can't record and stream at the same time so you are unable to use the TSW(for example) as a confidence monitor.  You can set it up but the minute you hit record....it's gone.  Then you need to run it out of the HDMI Out to a flat panel for a confidence monitor which causes more cost and less real estate on a instructor's podium.  I was told future firmware may accommodate that.


________________________________
From: eagrubbs <eagrubbs@...>
To: Crestron@...
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 11:47 PM
Subject: [Crestron] Re: Capture Live HD


The main issue I have with it is you cannot playback from it. If that feature could be added it would be a lot better. Easy to control. Setting up the IPT/z or whatever part # that sony camera is, sucks if you go by the manual. I had to download some sony software to set it up so I could set up the stream to the panels. my .01

--- In Crestron@..., Lincoln King-Cliby <lincoln@...> wrote:

What are you looking for -- programming? End user? Sales?

It's stupid easy to program basic functionality, though some aspects require more reading of the tea leaves in the help file than I'd like but for your first time there's enough to build a framework that gets you to a point where you don't waste much time onsite.

Setting a static IP via the front panel is a PITA until you realize that DHCP (completely different menu) has to be turned off for before a static IP will "stick" & the one time I tried using one in "Streaming" mode (I had some time to kill on a jobsite) I don't recall it working well, again that was only one time, and every CaptureHD I've done has been used in "Record" mode/as a VCR replacement -- e.g. user plugs their USB drive in, hits record, at end of meeting hits stop and take the drive with them.

Using a composite video camera input in the 2010s feels dirty to me and, it seems, most of my clients as well. As a result, every CaptureHD I've deployed has been the CaptureHD Pro (which accepts Composite or HD-SDI camera inputs; about 75% of them are using HD-SDI now, the remainder for future resistance) but I assume the differences between the two are not that great aside from that.

HTH,

Lincoln

-----Original Message-----
From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On Behalf Of Gerard
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 9:14 PM
To: Crestron@...
Subject: [Crestron] Capture Live HD

Opinions on this?

Thanks.



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Re: Capture Live HD

 

The main issue I have with it is you cannot playback from it. If that feature could be added it would be a lot better. Easy to control. Setting up the IPT/z or whatever part # that sony camera is, sucks if you go by the manual. I had to download some sony software to set it up so I could set up the stream to the panels. my .01

--- In Crestron@..., Lincoln King-Cliby <lincoln@...> wrote:

What are you looking for -- programming? End user? Sales?

It's stupid easy to program basic functionality, though some aspects require more reading of the tea leaves in the help file than I'd like but for your first time there's enough to build a framework that gets you to a point where you don't waste much time onsite.

Setting a static IP via the front panel is a PITA until you realize that DHCP (completely different menu) has to be turned off for before a static IP will "stick" & the one time I tried using one in "Streaming" mode (I had some time to kill on a jobsite) I don't recall it working well, again that was only one time, and every CaptureHD I've done has been used in "Record" mode/as a VCR replacement -- e.g. user plugs their USB drive in, hits record, at end of meeting hits stop and take the drive with them.

Using a composite video camera input in the 2010s feels dirty to me and, it seems, most of my clients as well. As a result, every CaptureHD I've deployed has been the CaptureHD Pro (which accepts Composite or HD-SDI camera inputs; about 75% of them are using HD-SDI now, the remainder for future resistance) but I assume the differences between the two are not that great aside from that.

HTH,

Lincoln

-----Original Message-----
From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On Behalf Of Gerard
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 9:14 PM
To: Crestron@...
Subject: [Crestron] Capture Live HD

Opinions on this?

Thanks.



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Re: Pretty Toolbox splash

 

Looks great on my dedicated Toolbox laptop. It's not like I need to do
anything else at the same time...


On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 10:16 PM, Neil Dorin <neildorin@...> wrote:

You guys are all haters.

I think it's pretty :)

Sent from my iPhone

On 2013-05-16, at 7:51 PM, "Chip" <cfm@...> wrote:


I thought the SIMPL Windows splash was annoying.

This is exponentially worse.

Clearly the people that implemented this thinking it was a good idea
have never tried to use more than one application at a time on their
computers.

- Chip

--- In Crestron@..., Marc Nield <nieldm@...> wrote:

Is it me or is that new, pretty Toolbox startup splash more annoying
than useful? You start an upload or a compile and then think "oh I'll start
Toolbox" then you can't see what's going on for as long as it takes Toolbox
to start coz the damn splash hogs the screen and won't go away.

Like I said, maybe I am doing something wrong, but if I am not I can't
believe I am alone in my grumpiness�.

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--
Jeremy Weatherford


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Re: Pretty Toolbox splash

 

As my computer has grown older, I find that I appreciate an acknowledgement that the program actually started after I clicked the icon.

Nothing more annoying than after waiting 5 minutes winding up with 3 instances of Toolbox open...

--- In Crestron@..., Marc Nield <nieldm@...> wrote:

Is it me or is that new, pretty Toolbox startup splash more annoying than useful? You start an upload or a compile and then think "oh I'll start Toolbox" then you can't see what's going on for as long as it takes Toolbox to start coz the damn splash hogs the screen and won't go away.

Like I said, maybe I am doing something wrong, but if I am not I can't believe I am alone in my grumpiness�.


Re: Pretty Toolbox splash

 

+1
Em 16/05/2013 23:16, Neil Dorin escreveu:

You guys are all haters.

I think it's pretty :)

Sent from my iPhone

On 2013-05-16, at 7:51 PM, "Chip" <cfm@... <mailto:cfm%40vca.com>>
wrote:


I thought the SIMPL Windows splash was annoying.

This is exponentially worse.

Clearly the people that implemented this thinking it was a good idea
have never tried to use more than one application at a time on their
computers.

- Chip

--- In Crestron@... <mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com>,
Marc Nield <nieldm@...> wrote:

Is it me or is that new, pretty Toolbox startup splash more
annoying than useful? You start an upload or a compile and then think
"oh I'll start Toolbox" then you can't see what's going on for as long
as it takes Toolbox to start coz the damn splash hogs the screen and
won't go away.

Like I said, maybe I am doing something wrong, but if I am not I
can't believe I am alone in my grumpiness�.




[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]


Re: Capture Live HD

 

What are you looking for -- programming? End user? Sales?

It's stupid easy to program basic functionality, though some aspects require more reading of the tea leaves in the help file than I'd like but for your first time there's enough to build a framework that gets you to a point where you don't waste much time onsite.

Setting a static IP via the front panel is a PITA until you realize that DHCP (completely different menu) has to be turned off for before a static IP will "stick" & the one time I tried using one in "Streaming" mode (I had some time to kill on a jobsite) I don't recall it working well, again that was only one time, and every CaptureHD I've done has been used in "Record" mode/as a VCR replacement -- e.g. user plugs their USB drive in, hits record, at end of meeting hits stop and take the drive with them.

Using a composite video camera input in the 2010s feels dirty to me and, it seems, most of my clients as well. As a result, every CaptureHD I've deployed has been the CaptureHD Pro (which accepts Composite or HD-SDI camera inputs; about 75% of them are using HD-SDI now, the remainder for future resistance) but I assume the differences between the two are not that great aside from that.

HTH,

Lincoln

-----Original Message-----
From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On Behalf Of Gerard
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 9:14 PM
To: Crestron@...
Subject: [Crestron] Capture Live HD

Opinions on this?

Thanks.



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Re: EISC between multiple programs vs. redundant logic in each?

 

Every room gets a processor in 99% of my systems, rarely comes in handy for me.

--- In Crestron@..., "floyd1212" <floyd1212@...> wrote:

I hear what you are saying, but I think there is some benefit, at least in this situation. This is a commercial job, and the programs in slots 4-8 are for conference rooms in the building. Being able to work on a room that is available to me, and not have to reboot a room that is currently occupied, is a benefit.

Obviously, if I have to update something in slots 1-3, there could be an impact on all 5 rooms, depending on what resources they are using in them.

That being said, life would be much easier if I could deal with a single program, and not have a bunch of EISCs going on. But, then I would probably have to work a night shift if I wanted to get anything done.

--- In Crestron@..., "matt_rasmussen_2000" <mjrtoo@> wrote:

I might challenge if it's even a benefit to run multiple programs at all if you're sharing logic between them anyway. There might be exceptions, but in general it's fairly useless to me.


--- In Crestron@..., "floyd1212" <floyd1212@> wrote:

I have a CP3 with programs running in 8 slots. Slots 1-3 are running programs to control the source equipment in the rack: Slot1 for DM and PAD8s, Slot2 for some media players, Slot3 for a pair of Biamps. Slots 4-8 are programs for individual rooms.

If I have signals that originate from Slot2, for example, and are sent to Slots4-8, is it more efficient to minimize the EISC traffic, even if it means some duplicate logic in the 5 program slots that contain the loom logic, or should I create a single instance of that logic in Slot2, even though it means more EISC traffic.

Obviously, it would depend on how much logic vs. how many EISC signals we are talking about, but I guess it's more of a theoretical question.


Autonomic mms media player

Eric Williams
 

I just setup my mms using the media player object. Works pretty well, few txt glitches and searching problems that need to worked out. The mms need a firmware update that may not show up on its configuration GUI. If not you'll need to telnet into the server and send the command "autoupdate hotfix"

Once that's complete under the source tab you see a place for an iP Id and processor IP address.

Thought I would save some folks some trouble.

Eric Williams
Head of Engineering
ABE Networks
240-604-4771


Re: Pretty Toolbox splash

 

You guys are all haters.

I think it's pretty :)
On 2013-05-16, at 7:51 PM, "Chip" <cfm@...> wrote:


I thought the SIMPL Windows splash was annoying.

This is exponentially worse.

Clearly the people that implemented this thinking it was a good idea have never tried to use more than one application at a time on their computers.

- Chip

--- In Crestron@..., Marc Nield <nieldm@...> wrote:

Is it me or is that new, pretty Toolbox startup splash more annoying than useful? You start an upload or a compile and then think "oh I'll start Toolbox" then you can't see what's going on for as long as it takes Toolbox to start coz the damn splash hogs the screen and won't go away.

Like I said, maybe I am doing something wrong, but if I am not I can't believe I am alone in my grumpiness�.

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]


Re: Pretty Toolbox splash

Chip
 

I thought the SIMPL Windows splash was annoying.

This is exponentially worse.

Clearly the people that implemented this thinking it was a good idea have never tried to use more than one application at a time on their computers.

- Chip

--- In Crestron@..., Marc Nield <nieldm@...> wrote:

Is it me or is that new, pretty Toolbox startup splash more annoying than useful? You start an upload or a compile and then think "oh I'll start Toolbox" then you can't see what's going on for as long as it takes Toolbox to start coz the damn splash hogs the screen and won't go away.

Like I said, maybe I am doing something wrong, but if I am not I can't believe I am alone in my grumpiness�.


Re: Not looking for IR codes, just need to know what they would be in rs232 protocol

jhuerta2803
 

If not the wrong way, how else could this be taken?

I don't program 24/7 or anything close to that, so yes I did make it through the cert course without knowing this. Pretty cool, huh?

Thanks for the vote of confidence.

--- In Crestron@..., "Ted" <ted_brincka@...> wrote:

Don't take this the wrong way, but you actually made it all the way to taking the cert exam thinking that IR codes can just be translated to 232? Wow!

--- In Crestron@..., "jhuerta2803" <jav-gen@> wrote:

Sorry for the confusion Chip. I thought that IR codes could be easily converted to rs232 serial commands. I have now learned thanks to you and others that they are not they same.

I was able to find the serial commands in the Files section, and there was also a module that might be useful as well.

Thanks for the input.



--- In Crestron@..., "Chip" <cfm@> wrote:


Your posts are very confusing. (Or it's just been a long day. Or both)

You mention that you want to use RS232 control, but then you talk about capturing IR codes and using an IR bud. Not the same thing.

RS232 control would be using the DB-9 connector on the display and connecting it to a COM port on your processor. No IR. No buds.

There are at least two PFM series RS232 modules already in the SIMPL windows library. There's a decent chance one of them will get you at least power control of the unit, so I'd suggest looking at the documentation for one of the modules and fashioning up an RS232 cable...

If none of those modules work, I'm afraid your best bet to find the RS-232 commands (did I mention these have nothing to do with IR?) would be to call Sony and see if you are lucky enough to find a tech that's willing to dig them out for you.

- Chip


--- In Crestron@..., "jhuerta2803" <jav-gen@> wrote:

New to this forum, or maybe a long time since my last post. I am working on one of my certification programs and have plasma display that is not listed in the Crestron DB. I managed to capture the IR commands from the remote using the Crestron IR learner, but I need to convert the commands from IR to rs232 since the cert instructions call for rs232 control instead of IR.

I entered the IR codes via the Tx signal to see if they work the way I thought they should be entered into a Serial I/O, but they aren't working. The power_cycle code is 0x010F, and I entered it into the Tx signal as &#92;x00x010F&#92;x03 and the plasma does not turn on.

I guess I am just missing how to enter the command into the serial I/O param. I tried "0x101F", but that doesn't do anything either.

I haven't tried connecting an IR bud to make sure they even work that way, but they seem to be the same as another model that is listed in the database.

Ah, I just saw the bit about Geoffrey Reynold's conversion program. I will try that and see how that works.



--- In Crestron@..., "davestaud" <DaveStaud@> wrote:

I think this belongs in the "Connecting Devices" section...

=================================================================

Q: Where can I find Crestron IR codes for a <brand> <model> ?
A: Discrete codes for most brands that support them, can usually be
found in the Crestron Database -- search by Manufacturer, then look
in the "Generic", "Multiple", or "UnClassified" folders.

Also, most devices will respond to IR drivers for similar models
within the same brand -- ie., the driver for the Mitsubishi HSU-780
will probably work with the 580.

The Remote Central web site has IR codes for a large number of
devices, in Philips Pronto format (see
).
Pronto-style codes can be converted into Crestron format by either of
two pieces of software: 1) Crestron's "Driver Editor And Learner for
Windows" (aka DEAL) can import Pronto-style codes one at a time, or
2) group member Geoffrey Reynolds has written an excellent utility
program that will convert an entire set of Pronto codes (embodied in
a .ccf file) into a Crestron IR driver in one step (see
for details)

Please don't ask the group for IR drivers until you've tried all of
the above -- it's generally considered rude to ask others to do
research that you should be doing for yourself.

=================================================================


Capture Live HD

 

Opinions on this?

Thanks.


Re: Core 3 - Cant print project document?!

 

You can also turn off "Display Object Join Numbers" in VTPro and use a screen capture utility of choice (our standard is SnagIt)

99% of my submittals are built this way because it's (IMO) the only "easy" way to get screenshots with all of the subpages/button states layered exactly as they should be without building a program [since the submittal has to be approved before the program is written, why spend anytime writing program for unapproved touchpanels?]

Lincoln

--
Lincoln King-Cliby, CTS
Sr. Systems Architect | Crestron Certified Master Programmer (Silver)
ControlWorks Consulting, LLC
Crestron Services Provider

-----Original Message-----
From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On Behalf Of j.mussetter
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 8:24 PM
To: Crestron@...
Subject: [Crestron] Re: Core 3 - Cant print project document?!

So wait, you can't do a "print to file" to print the screen shots out to .jpg files anymore with Core3? My clients are going to LOVE that, considering almost all of them ask me to do this at the end of the project so they can use the screen shot to build a user manual for the control system.

Running the panel as an XPanel and doing screen grabs won't fly considering I don't have access to a processor after that the fact, might be at best a workaround for those luckily enough to have bench gear to run it on, but what about the rest of us?

Me thinks my clients are going to start seeing the woes of Core3 real fast when I have to tell them the software doesn't do that anymore... maybe more integrators will start seeing Core3 for what it really is now when it starts effecting them, and they can't put together a training manual for the client anymore.

-Jason

--- In Crestron@..., "avsystemdesign" <avsystemdesign@...> wrote:

Thanks Neil, yeah I do the same but don't have a 3 series processor available right now. Oh well.....never a dull moment!

--- In Crestron@..., Neil Dorin <neildorin@> wrote:

Considering the dynamic nature of most Core3UI content it's pretty much useless anyway. I run my projects as xpanels and use a screenshot tool like Win7 snippet tool or Greenshot to capture the actual state of the UI including button fb and indirect text.

Sent from my iPhone

On 2013-05-16, at 4:45 PM, "avsystemdesign" <avsystemdesign@> wrote:

Really?! We cant print out our pages, or save them as images?
Please tell me I am missing something.






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Re: Core 3 - Cant print project document?!

 

As Tony mentioned above, this feature is available in VTPro 5.2 which is now released.

--- In Crestron@..., "j.mussetter" <jasonmussetter@...> wrote:

So wait, you can't do a "print to file" to print the screen shots out to .jpg files anymore with Core3? My clients are going to LOVE that, considering almost all of them ask me to do this at the end of the project so they can use the screen shot to build a user manual for the control system.

Running the panel as an XPanel and doing screen grabs won't fly considering I don't have access to a processor after that the fact, might be at best a workaround for those luckily enough to have bench gear to run it on, but what about the rest of us?

Me thinks my clients are going to start seeing the woes of Core3 real fast when I have to tell them the software doesn't do that anymore� maybe more integrators will start seeing Core3 for what it really is now when it starts effecting them, and they can't put together a training manual for the client anymore.

-Jason

--- In Crestron@..., "avsystemdesign" <avsystemdesign@> wrote:

Thanks Neil, yeah I do the same but don't have a 3 series processor available right now. Oh well.....never a dull moment!

--- In Crestron@..., Neil Dorin <neildorin@> wrote:

Considering the dynamic nature of most Core3UI content it's pretty much useless anyway. I run my projects as xpanels and use a screenshot tool like Win7 snippet tool or Greenshot to capture the actual state of the UI including button fb and indirect text.

Sent from my iPhone

On 2013-05-16, at 4:45 PM, "avsystemdesign" <avsystemdesign@> wrote:

Really?! We cant print out our pages, or save them as images?
Please tell me I am missing something.




Re: Core 3 - Cant print project document?!

 

So wait, you can't do a "print to file" to print the screen shots out to .jpg files anymore with Core3? My clients are going to LOVE that, considering almost all of them ask me to do this at the end of the project so they can use the screen shot to build a user manual for the control system.

Running the panel as an XPanel and doing screen grabs won't fly considering I don't have access to a processor after that the fact, might be at best a workaround for those luckily enough to have bench gear to run it on, but what about the rest of us?

Me thinks my clients are going to start seeing the woes of Core3 real fast when I have to tell them the software doesn't do that anymore� maybe more integrators will start seeing Core3 for what it really is now when it starts effecting them, and they can't put together a training manual for the client anymore.

-Jason

--- In Crestron@..., "avsystemdesign" <avsystemdesign@...> wrote:

Thanks Neil, yeah I do the same but don't have a 3 series processor available right now. Oh well.....never a dull moment!

--- In Crestron@..., Neil Dorin <neildorin@> wrote:

Considering the dynamic nature of most Core3UI content it's pretty much useless anyway. I run my projects as xpanels and use a screenshot tool like Win7 snippet tool or Greenshot to capture the actual state of the UI including button fb and indirect text.

Sent from my iPhone

On 2013-05-16, at 4:45 PM, "avsystemdesign" <avsystemdesign@> wrote:

Really?! We cant print out our pages, or save them as images?
Please tell me I am missing something.




Lighting weirdness � D3 Pro

 

I have a project where the customer says the dining room lights turn on by themselves� kind of randomly.
The project is medium size and we are using a bunch of CLW-DIMEX'es everywhere.
This has been happening for many months now. Last night the customer said he turned off his office light and walked towards the kitchen, and about 15 seconds later, the dining room lights turned on by themselves.
I am positive this is not a "vacation scheduler playback" issue because the customer is very knowledgeable and also the problem happens only on that area (and nowhere else).

My question:
Did any of you guys ever experienced weirdness in the Infinet-EX line of switches? Did you ever have a device start acting up like that?

Any shared experiences are welcome
Thanks,
Fabio