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Re: EISC between multiple programs vs. redundant logic in each?

 

I might challenge if it's even a benefit to run multiple programs at all if you're sharing logic between them anyway. There might be exceptions, but in general it's fairly useless to me.

--- In Crestron@..., "floyd1212" <floyd1212@...> wrote:

I have a CP3 with programs running in 8 slots. Slots 1-3 are running programs to control the source equipment in the rack: Slot1 for DM and PAD8s, Slot2 for some media players, Slot3 for a pair of Biamps. Slots 4-8 are programs for individual rooms.

If I have signals that originate from Slot2, for example, and are sent to Slots4-8, is it more efficient to minimize the EISC traffic, even if it means some duplicate logic in the 5 program slots that contain the loom logic, or should I create a single instance of that logic in Slot2, even though it means more EISC traffic.

Obviously, it would depend on how much logic vs. how many EISC signals we are talking about, but I guess it's more of a theoretical question.


EISC between multiple programs vs. redundant logic in each?

 

I have a CP3 with programs running in 8 slots. Slots 1-3 are running programs to control the source equipment in the rack: Slot1 for DM and PAD8s, Slot2 for some media players, Slot3 for a pair of Biamps. Slots 4-8 are programs for individual rooms.

If I have signals that originate from Slot2, for example, and are sent to Slots4-8, is it more efficient to minimize the EISC traffic, even if it means some duplicate logic in the 5 program slots that contain the loom logic, or should I create a single instance of that logic in Slot2, even though it means more EISC traffic.

Obviously, it would depend on how much logic vs. how many EISC signals we are talking about, but I guess it's more of a theoretical question.


Re: NVS-200 audio issue

 

Hi, thanks for the reply. In the manual, the specs for the NVS say it can handle line-level or microphone, so it should be ok?

--- In Crestron@..., Jon Spackman <fueler1@...> wrote:

But the NVS is looking for a mic input not line level, right? That would explain why is all distorted....

Sent from my iPad


Re: New file uploaded to Crestron

 

This is an updated module for those having trouble with the socket not disconnecting for the key commands. I just now disconnect the socket manually after every command.

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New file uploaded to Crestron

 

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Re: Pretty Toolbox splash

 

Ugh, no, it's terrible. I used to open and close Toolbox on a regular basis as I needed it, now I leave it open simply to avoid the Splash screen.

--- In Crestron@..., Marc Nield <nieldm@...> wrote:

Is it me or is that new, pretty Toolbox startup splash more annoying than useful? You start an upload or a compile and then think "oh I'll start Toolbox" then you can't see what's going on for as long as it takes Toolbox to start coz the damn splash hogs the screen and won't go away.

Like I said, maybe I am doing something wrong, but if I am not I can't believe I am alone in my grumpiness¡­.


Pretty Toolbox splash

Marc Nield
 

Is it me or is that new, pretty Toolbox startup splash more annoying than useful? You start an upload or a compile and then think "oh I'll start Toolbox" then you can't see what's going on for as long as it takes Toolbox to start coz the damn splash hogs the screen and won't go away.

Like I said, maybe I am doing something wrong, but if I am not I can't believe I am alone in my grumpiness¡­.


New file uploaded to Crestron

 

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Re: Axis 7701 IP Video Decoder

 

Uploading a module now.

--- In Crestron@..., "ian_crestron" <ian_crestron@...> wrote:

I have an Axis 7701 with multiple streams added. I would like to be able to switch the stream via TCPIP control. I'm not certain what the string format would be, I'm thinking something like:

GET /axis-cgi/operator/videocontrol.cgi?action=goto&sourcename=CAM1
GET /axis-cgi/operator/videocontrol.cgi?action=goto&sourcename=CAM2
etc...

The TCPIP client would be pointing at the IP and configured for port 80.

I am also concerned about authentication, how to inject a user/password into the string. I don't see any way in the 7701 to "allow anonymous" control, or disable passwords etc...

Any info would be helpful.


Axis 7701 IP Video Decoder

 

I have an Axis 7701 with multiple streams added. I would like to be able to switch the stream via TCPIP control. I'm not certain what the string format would be, I'm thinking something like:

GET /axis-cgi/operator/videocontrol.cgi?action=goto&sourcename=CAM1
GET /axis-cgi/operator/videocontrol.cgi?action=goto&sourcename=CAM2
etc...

The TCPIP client would be pointing at the IP and configured for port 80.

I am also concerned about authentication, how to inject a user/password into the string. I don't see any way in the 7701 to "allow anonymous" control, or disable passwords etc...

Any info would be helpful.


Re: Loading 750 on 1050

Heath Volmer
 

Probably did. We're talking about me here ;-). Starting completely from scratch, hoping for better results...

Heath Volmer
Digital Domain Systems
Littleton, CO

Sent from my iTypo 4

On May 16, 2013, at 11:43 AM, Neil Dorin <neildorin@...> wrote:

Yeah. That's what I meant. Weird I could have sworn I did that and tested.

Sent from my iPhone

On 2013-05-16, at 8:24 AM, Heath Volmer <hvolmer@...> wrote:

Hi Neil

I'm assuming that you mean "Project Scaling" in the bottom of the project's properties. It is set to none and it still scales to fill.

No big deal now. My installer borrowed a 750 from a project for testing.

Thanks

On May 15, 2013, at 7:13 PM, Neil Dorin <neildorin@...> wrote:

Tell the VTP project not to scale.

Sent from my iPhone

On 2013-05-15, at 10:00 AM, Heath Volmer <hvolmer@...> wrote:

I have a 1050 on the desk. Is there a way to load the 750 project onto it without it scaling it to fit the screen? I'd like to see how things look closer to actual intended size. Xpanel on my monitor is too small.

Thanks, Heath
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Re: Loading 750 on 1050

 

Yeah. That's what I meant. Weird I could have sworn I did that and tested.

On 2013-05-16, at 8:24 AM, Heath Volmer <hvolmer@...> wrote:

Hi Neil

I'm assuming that you mean "Project Scaling" in the bottom of the project's properties. It is set to none and it still scales to fill.

No big deal now. My installer borrowed a 750 from a project for testing.

Thanks

On May 15, 2013, at 7:13 PM, Neil Dorin <neildorin@...> wrote:

Tell the VTP project not to scale.

Sent from my iPhone

On 2013-05-15, at 10:00 AM, Heath Volmer <hvolmer@...> wrote:

I have a 1050 on the desk. Is there a way to load the 750 project onto it without it scaling it to fit the screen? I'd like to see how things look closer to actual intended size. Xpanel on my monitor is too small.

Thanks, Heath
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Google Play Music Control?

 

Google resently announced that they are doing music service like Spotify and I was wondering if anyone know how to control it yet?


Crestron Mobile - video formats?

 

I can't seem to find what format Mobile Pro will take for video windows.
Does anybody here know what video types it accepts?


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Re: NVS-200 audio issue

 

But the NVS is looking for a mic input not line level, right? That would explain why is all distorted....


Re: Corrosion on DM8G Ports

 

Good tip, I'll have to try that next time I run into the issue. However, it doesn't seem like these gold plated contacts should be getting funky like this, perhaps the DeoxIT is more of a bandaid...

--- In Crestron@..., Robert Parker <robertparkernc@...> wrote:

I have seen this as well. Even on some 2G stuff. I keep a can of Caig
Laboratories DeoxIT in my kit. Just a little on a Q-Tip to wipe the
contacts and I have seen this fix more things than it should.


Re: Loading 750 on 1050

Heath Volmer
 

Hi Neil

I'm assuming that you mean "Project Scaling" in the bottom of the project's properties. It is set to none and it still scales to fill.

No big deal now. My installer borrowed a 750 from a project for testing.

Thanks

On May 15, 2013, at 7:13 PM, Neil Dorin <neildorin@...> wrote:

Tell the VTP project not to scale.

Sent from my iPhone

On 2013-05-15, at 10:00 AM, Heath Volmer <hvolmer@...> wrote:

I have a 1050 on the desk. Is there a way to load the 750 project onto it without it scaling it to fit the screen? I'd like to see how things look closer to actual intended size. Xpanel on my monitor is too small.

Thanks, Heath




Re: EISC Signal Question

Heath Volmer
 

Thanks guys. Makes sense


On May 15, 2013, at 8:34 PM, Kool-Aid Drinker <herald@...> wrote:

I just did a wireshark capture of an EISC between a CP3N and a QM-RMC.
The QM-RMC had 48 defined inputs (1-32,1001-1016); half set to zero,
half to one. The CP3N had 16 defined outputs (1-16).

I triggered an update request on the CP3N.

I captured 49 UDP packets each way . The first was the update request
packet from the CP3N, followed immediately by an ack. The QM-RMC then
sent 48 data packets, apparently waiting for an ack between.

Conclusion: All defined inputs are sent, regardless of value/state,
regardless of outputs on the other side.

Packed EISC will reduce the packet count, but likely won't change the
basic behavior.

On Thu, 16 May 2013 01:17:57 -0000, "RobK" <fooguy89@...> wrote:

When side A requests an update from side B, B sends a single "clear" followed by the
non-zero data. If you have one signal defined at Join 1, and another at Join 4000 it would
at most send 2 states.


--- In Crestron@..., Heath Volmer <hvolmer@...> wrote:

If i understand: On the "genericly-named" remote end, where all of the signals are
defined, an update request will cause a slew of data to flow out, back to the main. On
the "main" end, where fewer signals are defined, the corresponding update-request will
generate less data towards the remote end.

I guess the question is simplest as: Do the undefined signals get transmitted, or only
the defined?

Heath


On May 15, 2013, at 1:36 PM, Kool-Aid Drinker <herald@...> wrote:

EISC don't know what is on the receiving end, they send based on their
inputs whether the other end has a matching output or not.

So, network traffic and overhead.

On Wed, 15 May 2013 11:35:50 -0600, Heath Volmer <hvolmer@...>
wrote:

Experimenting with making a "generic" sort of bridge between two programs to break up the
organization of a program, and to off-load some potentially heavy processing.

If, in the program broken away from the main program, I define an EISC with a ton of
generic signals (dig1, dig 2... 600 of each flavor maybe) and in the main program only use
the signals that are relevant, do I wind up with a mass of updating going on between
programs or does it only update those signals that are defined on the sending end?

I could potentially have many of these EISCs, but only heavily-loaded in the remote program.

Heath


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Re: Corrosion on DM8G Ports

 

I have seen this as well. Even on some 2G stuff. I keep a can of Caig
Laboratories DeoxIT in my kit. Just a little on a Q-Tip to wipe the
contacts and I have seen this fix more things than it should.

BTW if you have never tried DeoxIT it is hands down the best contact
cleaner made bar none. And it you fly put in in you toiletries bag not with
your tools. It will be missing when you arrive and the TSA will have left
you a note.

On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 7:30 AM, Joe Gruszka <joegrus@...> wrote:

**


I have been suspecting this also. I have been getting some calls from
clients
regarding lost video. Wiggling the connectors caused lost connection.
Looking
into the ports on the back of the DMPS-300 they had a grey cloudy
appearance
rather than bright gold. I replaced the connectors and cleaned the
ports. No
problems since. I can't say that it was corrosion or contamination.
Hoping the
latter.

joe

________________________________
From: futurenz49 <chris@...>
To: Crestron@...
Sent: Tue, April 30, 2013 12:23:20 AM
Subject: [Crestron] Re: Corrosion on DM8G Ports



this is concerning, the copper should be gold flashed which will never
corrode.
How often do we look into the port? It's not the first thing i'm gong to
look at
if I have issues.

cb

--- In Crestron@..., "jbudz1977" <jbudz1977@...> wrote:

Last few weeks I've had 3x RMAs on HD-EXT-1C transmitters for corrosion
on the
RJ45 output port after just under 2 years in service. Now I just took
possession
of a DM-RMC-SCALER-C that was acting not working right (control passing,
video
usually not passing), and looks like the jack has a similar issue. When
compared
to a new Leviton RJ45 jack the difference is stunning. The other ports on
these
units (HDMI) look like shiny copper / gold color. The units are not
exposed to
abnormal humidity or anything else, wondering if they had a bad batch of
ports.
They all seem to be made by Amphenol.

Anyone else run into this?




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