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You guys are still young. My first computer was a TRS-80 Model I with a gutted B&W TV for a monitor and a cassette tape player to save and load programs.

Great memories though!

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 5, 2013, at 8:04 PM, "Lincoln King-Cliby" <lincoln@...<mailto:lincoln@...>> wrote:



Me thinks it was MFM.

Ah... the pre-ATAPI days were so much fun. I remember my first CD-ROM drive was some SoundBlaster-proprietary interface -- it used a 40 pin ribbon cable to the soundcard that "looked" IDE but it certainly wasn't...

Lincoln

-----Original Message-----
From: Crestron@...<mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:Crestron@...<mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of Chris Niles
Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 9:05 PM
To: Crestron@...<mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: RE: [Crestron] Re: What's the Deal With Hostnames?

MFM or RLL?

I've got a 1x CD-ROM in the garage, with it's own controller card,
somewhere. I kept the computer it came in too, because it was pre-ATAPI and
I wanted to make sure I still had the drivers.

Who knows if it still boots.

Chris
On Mar 5, 2013 8:01 PM, "Lincoln King-Cliby" lincoln@...<mailto:lincoln%40controlworks.com>>
wrote:

**


Ahhhhhhhhh....

I remember being so proud that I got Windows 95 installed on a 40 MB
Western Digital HD in a 386DX that I had cobbled together out of spare
parts (mumble)somewhere between 7th and 9th grade(mumble).

It was a 3.5" IDE drive but it was essentially double height

Heck, I'm not even sure I have any USB drives that small anymore....

All of a sudden I'm feeling really old

[And before anyone gives me crap, I think I still have 5.5" full heights
drive out of an 8086 I nursed back to life...]

Lincoln

-----Original Message-----
From: Crestron@...<mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:Crestron@...<mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com>] On
Behalf Of Chris Niles
Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 8:54 PM
To: Crestron@...<mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [Crestron] Re: What's the Deal With Hostnames?

Yea. I've got to make sure I've got HIMEM.SYS configured correctly,
otherwise core3gui.exe crashes.

I also had to make a CONFIG.SYS menu so I could not load ATAPI.SYS and it
frees up enough memory under 640K to run better.

Do you guys think SMARTDRV.EXE would help compile times?

Chris
On Mar 5, 2013 6:38 PM, "stainbow1" stainbow1@...<mailto:stainbow1%40optonline.com>> wrote:

**


I still do most of my jobs in the old DOS format... tricky, but

rewarding.

;-)

(jk for specificity)

Stephen D.

--- In Crestron@...<mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com>, Geoffrey Reynolds wrote:

The point is "DOS Prompt" is commonly used these days as the general

name

just like Xerox or Kleenex by lots of people. Just about every

developer

I

know still calls it the DOS Prompt and everyone knows that it's really

the

Windows Command Prompt.

On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 6:32 PM, Anthony Desimone <
anthony_desimone@> wrote:

**


Well, sorry for the pedantry, but I know someone who tends to

constantly

use the wrong name for things (not a generic descriptor like Xerox or
Kleenex). It gets confusing and we're really in an industry where
specificity counts.

--- In Crestron@...<mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com>, Geoffrey Reynolds wrote:

Ugh. I don't think I'm all that old - I was just being a bit

facetious.

And I realize it's not DOS anymore. Nor is the Xerox machine at the

office

actually made by Xerox :).

On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 6:15 PM, Anthony Desimone <
anthony_desimone@> wrote:

**


I don't think you need to be old to remember it. The DOS prompt

was

there

for a while when I started using computers. But it's not DOS

anymore.

--- In Crestron@...<mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com>, Geoffrey Reynolds wrote:

Yeah, it's pretty common for us old timers to refer to the

Command

Prompt

in the new OS's as a DOS Prompt.

Geoff

On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 5:58 PM, Chris Niles
wrote:

DOS prompt == Windows Command Prompt
Sometimes I slip and call it that too.

Chris
On Mar 5, 2013 4:34 PM, "Anthony Desimone" <
anthony_desimone@>
wrote:

**


In addition to what Neil said, DOS doesn't ship with

windows

anymore, and

almost nothing with computers "just works".

--- In Crestron@...<mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com>, Neil Dorin wrote:

DOS....?

It mostly has to do with there being a valid DNS/gateway

service

on the

subnet where your equipment resides. There has to be

something

to

translate the hostname into an actual IP address. If

you're

just

plugging

a bunch of gear into a switch, there may be nothing to

resolve

a

hostname

for you.

What OS are you running?



On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 2:30 PM, jbudz1977 wrote:

**


Why can't I just type ping (hostname) in my dos prompt

and

have

it

respond? How come sometimes toolbox lets me connect by

hostname

and

other

times not so much? Why do I get a pop up every time I

open

toolbox

saying

it adjusted some settings to let me connect by

hostname?

With

computers it

just works, why not with Crestrons?

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Check out the Files area for useful modules, documents, and

drivers.

A contact list of Crestron dealers and programmers can be

found in

the

Database area.

Yahoo!

Groups Links

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A contact list of Crestron dealers and programmers can be found in the
Database area.
Yahoo!
Groups Links

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Check out the Files area for useful modules, documents, and drivers.

A contact list of Crestron dealers and programmers can be found in the Database area.
Yahoo! Groups Links





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I do this in my house and it works great - just plug it into my network switch. You have to use the Airport Utility to tell the unit to disable the wireless. I have an 802.11g model, you can pick one up for $50 on ebay. Or get a brand new one 802.11n 5GHz for $99.

Or you could also use an Apple TV if you think they want video in the future - but there is no analog audio outputs, you have to use an outboard DAC.

--- In Crestron@..., Jeremy Weatherford <jweather@> wrote:

Disable the airport's wireless and connect it to the wired network.


On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 10:36 AM, wes_lim88 <wes_lim88@> wrote:

**


i already have an existing network. will adding the airport express just
add another network? and i should connect to this network (airport express)
to use the airplay?


--- In Crestron@..., "floyd1212" wrote:

I think your best bet will be an Apple Airport Express, and use an 1/8"

stereo mini to RCA cable.

--- In Crestron@..., "wes_lim88" wrote:

do you know any simple apple airplay receiver with RCA out so i can

plug it in one of the source inputs of my Adagio Audio Expander?

thanks.

--
Jeremy Weatherford


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Well if we're playing that game, I had a TI-99 with the cassette tape
drive.

My first portable computer was a LASER50. BASIC, FTW.

There are no button presses on the V24....


On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 2:23 PM, Mark <markrkaye@...> wrote:

**


then there's the demo program, otherwise i could have never figured out
how they got the button presses from the V24 to the DGE-2

mark


--- In Crestron@..., "Mark" wrote:

looks like i need a DGE-2 & DM-TX-201-C for this to operate as a TP too.
if i connect it directly to the DM i can get video, but no control.

mark

I sent a mail to trueBlue and the answer is use hex value instead of
character. A reply, can you report it has a bug to the developper team and
the answer was. It's not a bug.

:)


{Paf}


2013/3/4 Crestron Noob <crestronoob@...>

**


That should be device_id = byte(device, 1); of course :)


--- In Crestron@..., "Crestron Noob" wrote:

I don't think propList works with unitCharacter. Had a similar problem a

while back, I ended up with something along the lines of

integer device_id;
string_parameter device[1];

// propList = {"A", "Dev1"}, ...;

function main() {
device_id = byte(device[1]);
}

--- In Crestron@..., "Raph Paf" wrote:

Hi all,

i'm currently working on a module where i need to use propList with

unitCharacter.

#BEGIN_PARAMETER_PROPERTIES Device
propValidUnits = unitCharacter;
propDefaultUnit = unitCharacter;
propDefaultValue = 'Z';
propList = {'A',"Dev1"},{'B',"Dev2"},{'C',"Dev3"},{'Z',"All"};
#END_PARAMETER_PROPERTIES

the problem i have it's when i'm using the PropList for Device
it shows

Dev1 ['A'd]

somebody have a clue for me to fix that because i'm suppose to see

Dev1 [A]

Thanks.

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Yeah, it's pretty common for us old timers to refer to the Command Prompt
in the new OS's as a DOS Prompt.

Geoff

On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 5:58 PM, Chris Niles
<chris.niles.crestron@...>wrote:

DOS prompt == Windows Command Prompt
Sometimes I slip and call it that too.

Chris
On Mar 5, 2013 4:34 PM, "Anthony Desimone" <
anthony_desimone@...>
wrote:

**


In addition to what Neil said, DOS doesn't ship with windows anymore, and
almost nothing with computers "just works".

--- In Crestron@..., Neil Dorin wrote:

DOS....?

It mostly has to do with there being a valid DNS/gateway service on the
subnet where your equipment resides. There has to be something to
translate the hostname into an actual IP address. If you're just

plugging

a bunch of gear into a switch, there may be nothing to resolve a

hostname

for you.

What OS are you running?



On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 2:30 PM, jbudz1977 wrote:

**


Why can't I just type ping (hostname) in my dos prompt and have it
respond? How come sometimes toolbox lets me connect by hostname and

other

times not so much? Why do I get a pop up every time I open toolbox

saying

it adjusted some settings to let me connect by hostname? With

computers it

just works, why not with Crestrons?

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

------------------------------------




Check out the Files area for useful modules, documents, and drivers.

A contact list of Crestron dealers and programmers can be found in the
Database area.
Yahoo!
Groups Links

**


That should be device_id = byte(device, 1); of course :)


--- In Crestron@..., "Crestron Noob" wrote:

I don't think propList works with unitCharacter. Had a similar problem a

while back, I ended up with something along the lines of

integer device_id;
string_parameter device[1];

// propList = {"A", "Dev1"}, ...;

function main() {
device_id = byte(device[1]);
}

--- In Crestron@..., "Raph Paf" wrote:

Hi all,

i'm currently working on a module where i need to use propList with

unitCharacter.

#BEGIN_PARAMETER_PROPERTIES Device
propValidUnits = unitCharacter;
propDefaultUnit = unitCharacter;
propDefaultValue = 'Z';
propList = {'A',"Dev1"},{'B',"Dev2"},{'C',"Dev3"},{'Z',"All"};
#END_PARAMETER_PROPERTIES

the problem i have it's when i'm using the PropList for Device
it shows

Dev1 ['A'd]

somebody have a clue for me to fix that because i'm suppose to see

Dev1 [A]

Thanks.

James,

I'm glad you find the module to be useful, if even as a starting point for what you are trying to achieve.

You are correct in the way the module works currently. As you page through the categories, or up and down through the channels within a category, the module "pre-loads" the channel numbers associated with each line that is being displayed as an analog value. Then, when you press a line, it simply spits out the analog channel number for that line. It should be relatively easy to also pre-load the channel name, and spit that out along with the channel number when a line is pressed.

You will need to add a new global string variable, setup as an array with 16 elements, and 30 bytes in length. Something like "NameForLine$[16][30]". This is where the channel names will be stored that correspond to the current list of channels being displayed.

You will also need to define another string_output that will send your channel name out of the module when a line is pressed. Something like "NameOut$".

Then, in the "MakeList" function, you need to add a line under the current one that pre-loads the channel number, with one that also pre-loads the channel name, so that it looks something like this:

ChannelForLine[i] = AtoI(Entry[x].Number);
NameForLine$[i] = Entry[x].Name;

Finally, in the CHANGE event for when a line is pressed, you need to add a line under the current one to also spit out the channel name along with the channel number.

ChannelOut = ChannelForLine[LineSelect];
NameOut$ = NameForLine$[LineSelect];

I didn't compile or test any of the above, but in general that should get you headed in the right direction. Hope that helps.

-David


--- In Crestron@..., "im_stargrove" <stargrove@> wrote:

Each button (5 in the original module) gets populated with a Makestring of a given entry in the array depending on what page you are on. In the original module, as I understand it, the Channel value displayed on button one gets pulled out of the function/array that populates the buttons as you page through the list and ITOA'd when I push it. I would like to get the Short Name for the same button to pass onto my switcher.

I have tried subbing the Short Name for Channel Number but that seems to create problems in the array because of the ITOA. ITOA will pull out a number from the 8 character string, if they are there, or it just won't change when there are no numbers. If I try to change that value instead to a Serial vs an Analog, the Simpl+ module will not compile.

James


--- In Crestron@..., "eagrubbs" <eagrubbs@> wrote:

ITOA it. If the module is putting out the correct analog number for the channel, ITOA will make it serial.

Sorry just reread the post. For "what button gets pushed" are you referring to having the number spelled out or just a serial string of ex. <1055>


--- In Crestron@..., "im_stargrove" <stargrove@> wrote:

I am very new to programming in general, but I have a requirement to do something similar to what floyd1212 did in the module titled " XM Channel Browser Demo.zip". The only issue I have with using it outright in my application is that I need to not pass out an analog value for a channel, but instead a serial string up to 8-characters long based on what button gets pushed.

The data as originally formatted was 4 columns of data:
Channel|Category|Short Name|Description
4|Decades|The 40s|Big Band/Swing/Forties;

I have figured out that the original module pulls out the Channel column when one of six buttons is pressed and pushes it out of the module as an Analog into the main program. I want to essentially pull out the "Short Name" serial string of the array, but have yet been unable to figure out how to do it.

I would post what I have done so far, but the computers where I work are physically disconnected from the internet and, short of retyping everything, we can't move anything back once it is there. Hopefully my description is good enough for someone to help. I will try and answer questions as best I can.

Thanks,
James

Also had/have the Timex Sinclair with the giant 16k pack. You haven't
lived until you've loaded programs from cassette tape. :)

Computer after that was the TRS-80 Model 100.



On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 6:51 PM, Jay Basen <jay.m.basen@...> wrote:

I'll raise the stakes. My first computer was a Timex-Sinclair that I
bought brand new.

I also had to walk 5 miles to school; up hill both ways :-)

Jay

----- Original Message -----

From: "Lincoln King-Cliby" <lincoln@...>
To: "Crestron@..." <Crestron@...>
Sent: Tuesday, March 5, 2013 7:36:42 PM
Subject: RE: [Crestron] Re: What's the Deal With Hostnames?





I have to fold, but before I do...

I remember at ~3 my Dad being "important" enough to bring a "portable
computer" home from work from time to time.

That was the Compaq Portable -- 1 5.25" floppy, 128k of RAM, 10 MB Hard
Drive, 9" monochrome //CRT// and a comfortable 28 pounds, and the bargain
basement price of $3,600. Looked like a large sewing machine when all
folded up.

I have I'm-not-sure-how-many-hundreds-of-times-more computing power in my
freaking Cell Phone now.

Lincoln

-----Original Message-----
From: Crestron@... [mailto: Crestron@... ] On
Behalf Of Chapman Mays
Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 9:14 PM
To: Crestron@...
Subject: Re: [Crestron] Re: What's the Deal With Hostnames?

You guys are still young. My first computer was a TRS-80 Model I with a
gutted B&W TV for a monitor and a cassette tape player to save and load
programs.

Great memories though!

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 5, 2013, at 8:04 PM, "Lincoln King-Cliby" lincoln@...
lincoln@... >> wrote:

Me thinks it was MFM.

Ah... the pre-ATAPI days were so much fun. I remember my first CD-ROM
drive was some SoundBlaster-proprietary interface -- it used a 40 pin
ribbon cable to the soundcard that "looked" IDE but it certainly wasn't...

Lincoln

-----Original Message-----
From: Crestron@... [mailto: Crestron@... ] On
Behalf Of Chris Niles
Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 9:05 PM
To: Crestron@...
Subject: RE: [Crestron] Re: What's the Deal With Hostnames?

MFM or RLL?

I've got a 1x CD-ROM in the garage, with it's own controller card,
somewhere. I kept the computer it came in too, because it was pre-ATAPI
and
I wanted to make sure I still had the drivers.

Who knows if it still boots.

Chris
On Mar 5, 2013 8:01 PM, "Lincoln King-Cliby" lincoln@... >
wrote:

**


Ahhhhhhhhh....

I remember being so proud that I got Windows 95 installed on a 40 MB
Western Digital HD in a 386DX that I had cobbled together out of spare
parts (mumble)somewhere between 7th and 9th grade(mumble).

It was a 3.5" IDE drive but it was essentially double height

Heck, I'm not even sure I have any USB drives that small anymore....

All of a sudden I'm feeling really old

[And before anyone gives me crap, I think I still have 5.5" full heights
drive out of an 8086 I nursed back to life...]

Lincoln

-----Original Message-----
From: Crestron@... [mailto: Crestron@... ] On
Behalf Of Chris Niles
Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 8:54 PM
To: Crestron@...
Subject: Re: [Crestron] Re: What's the Deal With Hostnames?

Yea. I've got to make sure I've got HIMEM.SYS configured correctly,
otherwise core3gui.exe crashes.

I also had to make a CONFIG.SYS menu so I could not load ATAPI.SYS and

it

frees up enough memory under 640K to run better.

Do you guys think SMARTDRV.EXE would help compile times?

Chris
On Mar 5, 2013 6:38 PM, "stainbow1" stainbow1@... > wrote:

**


I still do most of my jobs in the old DOS format... tricky, but

rewarding.

;-)

(jk for specificity)

Stephen D.

--- In Crestron@... , Geoffrey Reynolds wrote:

The point is "DOS Prompt" is commonly used these days as the general

name

just like Xerox or Kleenex by lots of people. Just about every

developer

I

know still calls it the DOS Prompt and everyone knows that it's

really

the

Windows Command Prompt.

On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 6:32 PM, Anthony Desimone <
anthony_desimone@...> wrote:

**


Well, sorry for the pedantry, but I know someone who tends to

constantly

use the wrong name for things (not a generic descriptor like

Xerox or

Kleenex). It gets confusing and we're really in an industry where
specificity counts.

--- In Crestron@... , Geoffrey Reynolds wrote:

Ugh. I don't think I'm all that old - I was just being a bit

facetious.

And I realize it's not DOS anymore. Nor is the Xerox machine at

the

office

actually made by Xerox :).

On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 6:15 PM, Anthony Desimone <
anthony_desimone@> wrote:

**


I don't think you need to be old to remember it. The DOS

prompt

was

there

for a while when I started using computers. But it's not DOS

anymore.

--- In Crestron@... , Geoffrey Reynolds wrote:

Yeah, it's pretty common for us old timers to refer to the

Command

Prompt

in the new OS's as a DOS Prompt.

Geoff

On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 5:58 PM, Chris Niles
wrote:

DOS prompt == Windows Command Prompt
Sometimes I slip and call it that too.

Chris
On Mar 5, 2013 4:34 PM, "Anthony Desimone" <
anthony_desimone@>
wrote:

**


In addition to what Neil said, DOS doesn't ship with

windows

anymore, and

almost nothing with computers "just works".

--- In Crestron@... , Neil Dorin wrote:

DOS....?

It mostly has to do with there being a valid

DNS/gateway

service

on the

subnet where your equipment resides. There has to be

something

to

translate the hostname into an actual IP address. If

you're

just

plugging

a bunch of gear into a switch, there may be nothing to

resolve

a

hostname

for you.

What OS are you running?



On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 2:30 PM, jbudz1977 wrote:

**


Why can't I just type ping (hostname) in my dos

prompt

and

have

it

respond? How come sometimes toolbox lets me connect

by

hostname

and

other

times not so much? Why do I get a pop up every time

I

open

toolbox

saying

it adjusted some settings to let me connect by

hostname?

With

computers it

just works, why not with Crestrons?

------------------------------------

Check out the Files area for useful modules, documents,

and

drivers.

A contact list of Crestron dealers and programmers can be

found in

the

Database area.

Yahoo!

Groups Links

------------------------------------

Check out the Files area for useful modules, documents, and drivers.

A contact list of Crestron dealers and programmers can be found in the
Database area.

Yahoo!

Groups Links

------------------------------------




Check out the Files area for useful modules, documents, and drivers.

A contact list of Crestron dealers and programmers can be found in the
Database area.
Yahoo!
Groups Links



------------------------------------




Check out the Files area for useful modules, documents, and drivers.

A contact list of Crestron dealers and programmers can be found in the
Database area.
Yahoo!
Groups Links









------------------------------------




Check out the Files area for useful modules, documents, and drivers.

A contact list of Crestron dealers and programmers can be found in the
Database area.
Yahoo!
Groups Links

wrote:

**


I have to fold, but before I do...

I remember at ~3 my Dad being "important" enough to bring a "portable
computer" home from work from time to time.

That was the Compaq Portable -- 1 5.25" floppy, 128k of RAM, 10 MB Hard
Drive, 9" monochrome //CRT// and a comfortable 28 pounds, and the bargain
basement price of $3,600. Looked like a large sewing machine when all
folded up.

I have I'm-not-sure-how-many-hundreds-of-times-more computing power in my
freaking Cell Phone now.

Lincoln


-----Original Message-----
From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On
Behalf Of Chapman Mays
Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 9:14 PM
To: Crestron@...
Subject: Re: [Crestron] Re: What's the Deal With Hostnames?

You guys are still young. My first computer was a TRS-80 Model I with a
gutted B&W TV for a monitor and a cassette tape player to save and load
programs.

Great memories though!

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 5, 2013, at 8:04 PM, "Lincoln King-Cliby" lincoln@...
lincoln@...>> wrote:

Me thinks it was MFM.

Ah... the pre-ATAPI days were so much fun. I remember my first CD-ROM
drive was some SoundBlaster-proprietary interface -- it used a 40 pin
ribbon cable to the soundcard that "looked" IDE but it certainly wasn't...

Lincoln

-----Original Message-----
From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On
Behalf Of Chris Niles
Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 9:05 PM
To: Crestron@...
Subject: RE: [Crestron] Re: What's the Deal With Hostnames?

MFM or RLL?

I've got a 1x CD-ROM in the garage, with it's own controller card,
somewhere. I kept the computer it came in too, because it was pre-ATAPI and
I wanted to make sure I still had the drivers.

Who knows if it still boots.

Chris
On Mar 5, 2013 8:01 PM, "Lincoln King-Cliby" lincoln@...>
wrote:

**


Ahhhhhhhhh....

I remember being so proud that I got Windows 95 installed on a 40 MB
Western Digital HD in a 386DX that I had cobbled together out of spare
parts (mumble)somewhere between 7th and 9th grade(mumble).

It was a 3.5" IDE drive but it was essentially double height

Heck, I'm not even sure I have any USB drives that small anymore....

All of a sudden I'm feeling really old

[And before anyone gives me crap, I think I still have 5.5" full heights
drive out of an 8086 I nursed back to life...]

Lincoln

-----Original Message-----
From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On
Behalf Of Chris Niles
Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 8:54 PM
To: Crestron@...
Subject: Re: [Crestron] Re: What's the Deal With Hostnames?

Yea. I've got to make sure I've got HIMEM.SYS configured correctly,
otherwise core3gui.exe crashes.

I also had to make a CONFIG.SYS menu so I could not load ATAPI.SYS and it
frees up enough memory under 640K to run better.

Do you guys think SMARTDRV.EXE would help compile times?

Chris
On Mar 5, 2013 6:38 PM, "stainbow1" stainbow1@...> wrote:

**


I still do most of my jobs in the old DOS format... tricky, but

rewarding.

;-)

(jk for specificity)

Stephen D.

--- In Crestron@..., Geoffrey Reynolds wrote:

The point is "DOS Prompt" is commonly used these days as the general

name

just like Xerox or Kleenex by lots of people. Just about every

developer

I

know still calls it the DOS Prompt and everyone knows that it's

really

the

Windows Command Prompt.

On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 6:32 PM, Anthony Desimone <
anthony_desimone@...> wrote:

**


Well, sorry for the pedantry, but I know someone who tends to

constantly

use the wrong name for things (not a generic descriptor like Xerox

or

Kleenex). It gets confusing and we're really in an industry where
specificity counts.

--- In Crestron@..., Geoffrey Reynolds wrote:

Ugh. I don't think I'm all that old - I was just being a bit

facetious.

And I realize it's not DOS anymore. Nor is the Xerox machine at

the

office

actually made by Xerox :).

On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 6:15 PM, Anthony Desimone <
anthony_desimone@> wrote:

**


I don't think you need to be old to remember it. The DOS prompt

was

there

for a while when I started using computers. But it's not DOS

anymore.

--- In Crestron@..., Geoffrey Reynolds wrote:

Yeah, it's pretty common for us old timers to refer to the

Command

Prompt

in the new OS's as a DOS Prompt.

Geoff

On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 5:58 PM, Chris Niles
wrote:

DOS prompt == Windows Command Prompt
Sometimes I slip and call it that too.

Chris
On Mar 5, 2013 4:34 PM, "Anthony Desimone" <
anthony_desimone@>
wrote:

**


In addition to what Neil said, DOS doesn't ship with

windows

anymore, and

almost nothing with computers "just works".

--- In Crestron@..., Neil Dorin wrote:

DOS....?

It mostly has to do with there being a valid

DNS/gateway

service

on the

subnet where your equipment resides. There has to be

something

to

translate the hostname into an actual IP address. If

you're

just

plugging

a bunch of gear into a switch, there may be nothing to

resolve

a

hostname

for you.

What OS are you running?



On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 2:30 PM, jbudz1977 wrote:

**


Why can't I just type ping (hostname) in my dos

prompt

and

have

it

respond? How come sometimes toolbox lets me connect

by

hostname

and

other

times not so much? Why do I get a pop up every time I

open

toolbox

saying

it adjusted some settings to let me connect by

hostname?

With

computers it

just works, why not with Crestrons?

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]



------------------------------------

Check out the Files area for useful modules, documents, and

drivers.

A contact list of Crestron dealers and programmers can be

found in

the

Database area.

Yahoo!

Groups Links

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

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A contact list of Crestron dealers and programmers can be found in the
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Yahoo!

Groups Links

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------------------------------------




Check out the Files area for useful modules, documents, and drivers.

A contact list of Crestron dealers and programmers can be found in the
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Groups Links

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Groups Links

I'll raise the stakes. My first computer was a Timex-Sinclair that I
bought brand new.

I also had to walk 5 miles to school; up hill both ways :-)

Jay

----- Original Message -----

From: "Lincoln King-Cliby" <lincoln@...>
To: "Crestron@..." <Crestron@...>
Sent: Tuesday, March 5, 2013 7:36:42 PM
Subject: RE: [Crestron] Re: What's the Deal With Hostnames?





I have to fold, but before I do...

I remember at ~3 my Dad being "important" enough to bring a "portable
computer" home from work from time to time.

That was the Compaq Portable -- 1 5.25" floppy, 128k of RAM, 10 MB Hard
Drive, 9" monochrome //CRT// and a comfortable 28 pounds, and the bargain
basement price of $3,600. Looked like a large sewing machine when all
folded up.

I have I'm-not-sure-how-many-hundreds-of-times-more computing power in my
freaking Cell Phone now.

Lincoln

-----Original Message-----
From: Crestron@... [mailto: Crestron@... ] On
Behalf Of Chapman Mays
Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 9:14 PM
To: Crestron@...
Subject: Re: [Crestron] Re: What's the Deal With Hostnames?

You guys are still young. My first computer was a TRS-80 Model I with a
gutted B&W TV for a monitor and a cassette tape player to save and load
programs.

Great memories though!

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 5, 2013, at 8:04 PM, "Lincoln King-Cliby" lincoln@...
lincoln@... >> wrote:

Me thinks it was MFM.

Ah... the pre-ATAPI days were so much fun. I remember my first CD-ROM
drive was some SoundBlaster-proprietary interface -- it used a 40 pin
ribbon cable to the soundcard that "looked" IDE but it certainly wasn't...

Lincoln

-----Original Message-----
From: Crestron@... [mailto: Crestron@... ] On
Behalf Of Chris Niles
Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 9:05 PM
To: Crestron@...
Subject: RE: [Crestron] Re: What's the Deal With Hostnames?

MFM or RLL?

I've got a 1x CD-ROM in the garage, with it's own controller card,
somewhere. I kept the computer it came in too, because it was pre-ATAPI and
I wanted to make sure I still had the drivers.

Who knows if it still boots.

Chris
On Mar 5, 2013 8:01 PM, "Lincoln King-Cliby" lincoln@... >
wrote:

**


Ahhhhhhhhh....

I remember being so proud that I got Windows 95 installed on a 40 MB
Western Digital HD in a 386DX that I had cobbled together out of spare
parts (mumble)somewhere between 7th and 9th grade(mumble).

It was a 3.5" IDE drive but it was essentially double height

Heck, I'm not even sure I have any USB drives that small anymore....

All of a sudden I'm feeling really old

[And before anyone gives me crap, I think I still have 5.5" full heights
drive out of an 8086 I nursed back to life...]

Lincoln

-----Original Message-----
From: Crestron@... [mailto: Crestron@... ] On
Behalf Of Chris Niles
Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 8:54 PM
To: Crestron@...
Subject: Re: [Crestron] Re: What's the Deal With Hostnames?

Yea. I've got to make sure I've got HIMEM.SYS configured correctly,
otherwise core3gui.exe crashes.

I also had to make a CONFIG.SYS menu so I could not load ATAPI.SYS and it
frees up enough memory under 640K to run better.

Do you guys think SMARTDRV.EXE would help compile times?

Chris
On Mar 5, 2013 6:38 PM, "stainbow1" stainbow1@... > wrote:

**


I still do most of my jobs in the old DOS format... tricky, but

rewarding.

;-)

(jk for specificity)

Stephen D.

--- In Crestron@... , Geoffrey Reynolds wrote:

The point is "DOS Prompt" is commonly used these days as the general

name

just like Xerox or Kleenex by lots of people. Just about every

developer

I

know still calls it the DOS Prompt and everyone knows that it's

really

the

Windows Command Prompt.

On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 6:32 PM, Anthony Desimone <
anthony_desimone@...> wrote:

**


Well, sorry for the pedantry, but I know someone who tends to

constantly

use the wrong name for things (not a generic descriptor like Xerox

or

Kleenex). It gets confusing and we're really in an industry where
specificity counts.

--- In Crestron@... , Geoffrey Reynolds wrote:

Ugh. I don't think I'm all that old - I was just being a bit

facetious.

And I realize it's not DOS anymore. Nor is the Xerox machine at

the

office

actually made by Xerox :).

On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 6:15 PM, Anthony Desimone <
anthony_desimone@> wrote:

**


I don't think you need to be old to remember it. The DOS prompt

was

there

for a while when I started using computers. But it's not DOS

anymore.

--- In Crestron@... , Geoffrey Reynolds wrote:

Yeah, it's pretty common for us old timers to refer to the

Command

Prompt

in the new OS's as a DOS Prompt.

Geoff

On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 5:58 PM, Chris Niles
wrote:

DOS prompt == Windows Command Prompt
Sometimes I slip and call it that too.

Chris
On Mar 5, 2013 4:34 PM, "Anthony Desimone" <
anthony_desimone@>
wrote:

**


In addition to what Neil said, DOS doesn't ship with

windows

anymore, and

almost nothing with computers "just works".

--- In Crestron@... , Neil Dorin wrote:

DOS....?

It mostly has to do with there being a valid

DNS/gateway

service

on the

subnet where your equipment resides. There has to be

something

to

translate the hostname into an actual IP address. If

you're

just

plugging

a bunch of gear into a switch, there may be nothing to

resolve

a

hostname

for you.

What OS are you running?



On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 2:30 PM, jbudz1977 wrote:

**


Why can't I just type ping (hostname) in my dos

prompt

and

have

it

respond? How come sometimes toolbox lets me connect

by

hostname

and

other

times not so much? Why do I get a pop up every time I

open

toolbox

saying

it adjusted some settings to let me connect by

hostname?

With

computers it

just works, why not with Crestrons?

------------------------------------

Check out the Files area for useful modules, documents, and

drivers.

A contact list of Crestron dealers and programmers can be

found in

the

Database area.

Yahoo!

Groups Links

------------------------------------

Check out the Files area for useful modules, documents, and drivers.

A contact list of Crestron dealers and programmers can be found in the
Database area.

Yahoo!

Groups Links

------------------------------------




Check out the Files area for useful modules, documents, and drivers.

A contact list of Crestron dealers and programmers can be found in the
Database area.
Yahoo!
Groups Links



------------------------------------




Check out the Files area for useful modules, documents, and drivers.

A contact list of Crestron dealers and programmers can be found in the
Database area.
Yahoo!
Groups Links









------------------------------------




Check out the Files area for useful modules, documents, and drivers.

A contact list of Crestron dealers and programmers can be found in the
Database area.
Yahoo!
Groups Links

I'll raise the stakes. My first computer was a Timex-Sinclair that I bought brand new.

I also had to walk 5 miles to school; up hill both ways :-)

Jay

----- Original Message -----

From: "Lincoln King-Cliby" lincoln@...>
To: "Crestron@..." Crestron@...>
Sent: Tuesday, March 5, 2013 7:36:42 PM
Subject: RE: [Crestron] Re: What's the Deal With Hostnames?

I have to fold, but before I do...

I remember at ~3 my Dad being "important" enough to bring a "portable computer" home from work from time to time.

That was the Compaq Portable -- 1 5.25" floppy, 128k of RAM, 10 MB Hard Drive, 9" monochrome //CRT// and a comfortable 28 pounds, and the bargain basement price of $3,600. Looked like a large sewing machine when all folded up.

I have I'm-not-sure-how-many-hundreds-of-times-more computing power in my freaking Cell Phone now.

Lincoln

-----Original Message-----
From: Crestron@... [mailto: Crestron@... ] On Behalf Of Chapman Mays
Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 9:14 PM
To: Crestron@...
Subject: Re: [Crestron] Re: What's the Deal With Hostnames?

You guys are still young. My first computer was a TRS-80 Model I with a gutted B&W TV for a monitor and a cassette tape player to save and load programs.

Great memories though!

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 5, 2013, at 8:04 PM, "Lincoln King-Cliby" lincoln@... lincoln@... >> wrote:

Me thinks it was MFM.

Ah... the pre-ATAPI days were so much fun. I remember my first CD-ROM drive was some SoundBlaster-proprietary interface -- it used a 40 pin ribbon cable to the soundcard that "looked" IDE but it certainly wasn't...

Lincoln

-----Original Message-----
From: Crestron@... [mailto: Crestron@... ] On Behalf Of Chris Niles
Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 9:05 PM
To: Crestron@...
Subject: RE: [Crestron] Re: What's the Deal With Hostnames?

MFM or RLL?

I've got a 1x CD-ROM in the garage, with it's own controller card,
somewhere. I kept the computer it came in too, because it was pre-ATAPI and
I wanted to make sure I still had the drivers.

Who knows if it still boots.

Chris
On Mar 5, 2013 8:01 PM, "Lincoln King-Cliby" lincoln@... >
wrote:

**


Ahhhhhhhhh....

I remember being so proud that I got Windows 95 installed on a 40 MB
Western Digital HD in a 386DX that I had cobbled together out of spare
parts (mumble)somewhere between 7th and 9th grade(mumble).

It was a 3.5" IDE drive but it was essentially double height

Heck, I'm not even sure I have any USB drives that small anymore....

All of a sudden I'm feeling really old

[And before anyone gives me crap, I think I still have 5.5" full heights
drive out of an 8086 I nursed back to life...]

Lincoln

-----Original Message-----
From: Crestron@... [mailto: Crestron@... ] On
Behalf Of Chris Niles
Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 8:54 PM
To: Crestron@...
Subject: Re: [Crestron] Re: What's the Deal With Hostnames?

Yea. I've got to make sure I've got HIMEM.SYS configured correctly,
otherwise core3gui.exe crashes.

I also had to make a CONFIG.SYS menu so I could not load ATAPI.SYS and it
frees up enough memory under 640K to run better.

Do you guys think SMARTDRV.EXE would help compile times?

Chris
On Mar 5, 2013 6:38 PM, "stainbow1" stainbow1@... > wrote:

**


I still do most of my jobs in the old DOS format... tricky, but

rewarding.

;-)

(jk for specificity)

Stephen D.

--- In Crestron@... , Geoffrey Reynolds wrote:

The point is "DOS Prompt" is commonly used these days as the general

name

just like Xerox or Kleenex by lots of people. Just about every

developer

I

know still calls it the DOS Prompt and everyone knows that it's really

the

Windows Command Prompt.

On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 6:32 PM, Anthony Desimone <
anthony_desimone@...> wrote:

**


Well, sorry for the pedantry, but I know someone who tends to

constantly

use the wrong name for things (not a generic descriptor like Xerox or
Kleenex). It gets confusing and we're really in an industry where
specificity counts.

--- In Crestron@... , Geoffrey Reynolds wrote:

Ugh. I don't think I'm all that old - I was just being a bit

facetious.

And I realize it's not DOS anymore. Nor is the Xerox machine at the

office

actually made by Xerox :).

On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 6:15 PM, Anthony Desimone <
anthony_desimone@> wrote:

**


I don't think you need to be old to remember it. The DOS prompt

was

there

for a while when I started using computers. But it's not DOS

anymore.

--- In Crestron@... , Geoffrey Reynolds wrote:

Yeah, it's pretty common for us old timers to refer to the

Command

Prompt

in the new OS's as a DOS Prompt.

Geoff

On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 5:58 PM, Chris Niles
wrote:

DOS prompt == Windows Command Prompt
Sometimes I slip and call it that too.

Chris
On Mar 5, 2013 4:34 PM, "Anthony Desimone" <
anthony_desimone@>
wrote:

**


In addition to what Neil said, DOS doesn't ship with

windows

anymore, and

almost nothing with computers "just works".

--- In Crestron@... , Neil Dorin wrote:

DOS....?

It mostly has to do with there being a valid DNS/gateway

service

on the

subnet where your equipment resides. There has to be

something

to

translate the hostname into an actual IP address. If

you're

just

plugging

a bunch of gear into a switch, there may be nothing to

resolve

a

hostname

for you.

What OS are you running?



On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 2:30 PM, jbudz1977 wrote:

**


Why can't I just type ping (hostname) in my dos prompt

and

have

it

respond? How come sometimes toolbox lets me connect by

hostname

and

other

times not so much? Why do I get a pop up every time I

open

toolbox

saying

it adjusted some settings to let me connect by

hostname?

With

computers it

just works, why not with Crestrons?

------------------------------------

Check out the Files area for useful modules, documents, and

drivers.

A contact list of Crestron dealers and programmers can be

found in

the

Database area.

Yahoo!

Groups Links

------------------------------------




Check out the Files area for useful modules, documents, and drivers.

A contact list of Crestron dealers and programmers can be found in the
Database area.
Yahoo!

**


Ahhhhhhhhh....

I remember being so proud that I got Windows 95 installed on a 40 MB
Western Digital HD in a 386DX that I had cobbled together out of spare
parts (mumble)somewhere between 7th and 9th grade(mumble).

It was a 3.5" IDE drive but it was essentially double height

Heck, I'm not even sure I have any USB drives that small anymore....

All of a sudden I'm feeling really old

[And before anyone gives me crap, I think I still have 5.5" full heights
drive out of an 8086 I nursed back to life...]

Lincoln

-----Original Message-----
From: Crestron@... [mailto: Crestron@... ] On
Behalf Of Chris Niles
Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 8:54 PM
To: Crestron@...
Subject: Re: [Crestron] Re: What's the Deal With Hostnames?

Yea. I've got to make sure I've got HIMEM.SYS configured correctly,
otherwise core3gui.exe crashes.

I also had to make a CONFIG.SYS menu so I could not load ATAPI.SYS and it
frees up enough memory under 640K to run better.

Do you guys think SMARTDRV.EXE would help compile times?

Chris
On Mar 5, 2013 6:38 PM, "stainbow1" stainbow1@... > wrote:

**


I still do most of my jobs in the old DOS format... tricky, but

rewarding.

;-)

(jk for specificity)

Stephen D.

--- In Crestron@... , Geoffrey Reynolds wrote:

The point is "DOS Prompt" is commonly used these days as the general

name

just like Xerox or Kleenex by lots of people. Just about every

developer

I

know still calls it the DOS Prompt and everyone knows that it's really

the

Windows Command Prompt.

On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 6:32 PM, Anthony Desimone <
anthony_desimone@...> wrote:

**


Well, sorry for the pedantry, but I know someone who tends to

constantly

use the wrong name for things (not a generic descriptor like Xerox or
Kleenex). It gets confusing and we're really in an industry where
specificity counts.

--- In Crestron@... , Geoffrey Reynolds wrote:

Ugh. I don't think I'm all that old - I was just being a bit

facetious.

And I realize it's not DOS anymore. Nor is the Xerox machine at the

office

actually made by Xerox :).

On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 6:15 PM, Anthony Desimone <
anthony_desimone@> wrote:

**


I don't think you need to be old to remember it. The DOS prompt

was

there

for a while when I started using computers. But it's not DOS

anymore.

--- In Crestron@... , Geoffrey Reynolds wrote:

Yeah, it's pretty common for us old timers to refer to the

Command

Prompt

in the new OS's as a DOS Prompt.

Geoff

On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 5:58 PM, Chris Niles
wrote:

DOS prompt == Windows Command Prompt
Sometimes I slip and call it that too.

Chris
On Mar 5, 2013 4:34 PM, "Anthony Desimone" <
anthony_desimone@>
wrote:

**


In addition to what Neil said, DOS doesn't ship with

windows

anymore, and

almost nothing with computers "just works".

--- In Crestron@... , Neil Dorin wrote:

DOS....?

It mostly has to do with there being a valid DNS/gateway

service

on the

subnet where your equipment resides. There has to be

something

to

translate the hostname into an actual IP address. If

you're

just

plugging

a bunch of gear into a switch, there may be nothing to

resolve

a

hostname

for you.

What OS are you running?



On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 2:30 PM, jbudz1977 wrote:

**


Why can't I just type ping (hostname) in my dos prompt

and

have

it

respond? How come sometimes toolbox lets me connect by

hostname

and

other

times not so much? Why do I get a pop up every time I

open

toolbox

saying

it adjusted some settings to let me connect by

hostname?

With

computers it

just works, why not with Crestrons?

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]



------------------------------------

Check out the Files area for useful modules, documents, and

drivers.

A contact list of Crestron dealers and programmers can be

found in

the

Database area.

Yahoo!

Groups Links

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

------------------------------------




Check out the Files area for useful modules, documents, and drivers.

A contact list of Crestron dealers and programmers can be found in the
Database area.
Yahoo!
Groups Links

A programmer with no internet? What sort of hell is this?

--- In Crestron@..., "im_stargrove" <stargrove@> wrote:

physically disconnected from the internet

I'll raise the stakes. My first computer was a Timex-Sinclair that I bought brand new.

I also had to walk 5 miles to school; up hill both ways :-)

Jay

----- Original Message -----

From: "Lincoln King-Cliby" lincoln@...<mailto:lincoln%40controlworks.com>>
To: "Crestron@...<mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com>Crestron@...<mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com>>
Sent: Tuesday, March 5, 2013 7:36:42 PM
Subject: RE: [Crestron] Re: What's the Deal With Hostnames?

I have to fold, but before I do...

I remember at ~3 my Dad being "important" enough to bring a "portable computer" home from work from time to time.

That was the Compaq Portable -- 1 5.25" floppy, 128k of RAM, 10 MB Hard Drive, 9" monochrome //CRT// and a comfortable 28 pounds, and the bargain basement price of $3,600. Looked like a large sewing machine when all folded up.

I have I'm-not-sure-how-many-hundreds-of-times-more computing power in my freaking Cell Phone now.

Lincoln

-----Original Message-----
From: Crestron@...<mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto: Crestron@...<mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Chapman Mays
Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 9:14 PM
To: Crestron@...<mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [Crestron] Re: What's the Deal With Hostnames?

You guys are still young. My first computer was a TRS-80 Model I with a gutted B&W TV for a monitor and a cassette tape player to save and load programs.

Great memories though!

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 5, 2013, at 8:04 PM, "Lincoln King-Cliby" lincoln@...<mailto:lincoln%40controlworks.com> lincoln@...<mailto:lincoln%40controlworks.com> >> wrote:

Me thinks it was MFM.

Ah... the pre-ATAPI days were so much fun. I remember my first CD-ROM drive was some SoundBlaster-proprietary interface -- it used a 40 pin ribbon cable to the soundcard that "looked" IDE but it certainly wasn't...

Lincoln

-----Original Message-----
From: Crestron@...<mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto: Crestron@...<mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Chris Niles
Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 9:05 PM
To: Crestron@...<mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: RE: [Crestron] Re: What's the Deal With Hostnames?

MFM or RLL?

I've got a 1x CD-ROM in the garage, with it's own controller card,
somewhere. I kept the computer it came in too, because it was pre-ATAPI and
I wanted to make sure I still had the drivers.

Who knows if it still boots.

Chris
On Mar 5, 2013 8:01 PM, "Lincoln King-Cliby" lincoln@...<mailto:lincoln%40controlworks.com> >
wrote:

**


Ahhhhhhhhh....

I remember being so proud that I got Windows 95 installed on a 40 MB
Western Digital HD in a 386DX that I had cobbled together out of spare
parts (mumble)somewhere between 7th and 9th grade(mumble).

It was a 3.5" IDE drive but it was essentially double height

Heck, I'm not even sure I have any USB drives that small anymore....

All of a sudden I'm feeling really old

[And before anyone gives me crap, I think I still have 5.5" full heights
drive out of an 8086 I nursed back to life...]

Lincoln

-----Original Message-----
From: Crestron@...<mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto: Crestron@...<mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
Behalf Of Chris Niles
Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 8:54 PM
To: Crestron@...<mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [Crestron] Re: What's the Deal With Hostnames?

Yea. I've got to make sure I've got HIMEM.SYS configured correctly,
otherwise core3gui.exe crashes.

I also had to make a CONFIG.SYS menu so I could not load ATAPI.SYS and it
frees up enough memory under 640K to run better.

Do you guys think SMARTDRV.EXE would help compile times?

Chris
On Mar 5, 2013 6:38 PM, "stainbow1" stainbow1@...<mailto:stainbow1%40optonline.com> > wrote:

**


I still do most of my jobs in the old DOS format... tricky, but

rewarding.

;-)

(jk for specificity)

Stephen D.

--- In Crestron@...<mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com> , Geoffrey Reynolds wrote:

The point is "DOS Prompt" is commonly used these days as the general

name

just like Xerox or Kleenex by lots of people. Just about every

developer

I

know still calls it the DOS Prompt and everyone knows that it's really

the

Windows Command Prompt.

On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 6:32 PM, Anthony Desimone <
anthony_desimone@...> wrote:

**


Well, sorry for the pedantry, but I know someone who tends to

constantly

use the wrong name for things (not a generic descriptor like Xerox or
Kleenex). It gets confusing and we're really in an industry where
specificity counts.

--- In Crestron@...<mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com> , Geoffrey Reynolds wrote:

Ugh. I don't think I'm all that old - I was just being a bit

facetious.

And I realize it's not DOS anymore. Nor is the Xerox machine at the

office

actually made by Xerox :).

On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 6:15 PM, Anthony Desimone <
anthony_desimone@> wrote:

**


I don't think you need to be old to remember it. The DOS prompt

was

there

for a while when I started using computers. But it's not DOS

anymore.

--- In Crestron@...<mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com> , Geoffrey Reynolds wrote:

Yeah, it's pretty common for us old timers to refer to the

Command

Prompt

in the new OS's as a DOS Prompt.

Geoff

On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 5:58 PM, Chris Niles
wrote:

DOS prompt == Windows Command Prompt
Sometimes I slip and call it that too.

Chris
On Mar 5, 2013 4:34 PM, "Anthony Desimone" <
anthony_desimone@>
wrote:

**


In addition to what Neil said, DOS doesn't ship with

windows

anymore, and

almost nothing with computers "just works".

--- In Crestron@...<mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com> , Neil Dorin wrote:

DOS....?

It mostly has to do with there being a valid DNS/gateway

service

on the

subnet where your equipment resides. There has to be

something

to

translate the hostname into an actual IP address. If

you're

just

plugging

a bunch of gear into a switch, there may be nothing to

resolve

a

hostname

for you.

What OS are you running?



On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 2:30 PM, jbudz1977 wrote:

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Why can't I just type ping (hostname) in my dos prompt

and

have

it

respond? How come sometimes toolbox lets me connect by

hostname

and

other

times not so much? Why do I get a pop up every time I

open

toolbox

saying

it adjusted some settings to let me connect by

hostname?

With

computers it

just works, why not with Crestrons?

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Check out the Files area for useful modules, documents, and drivers.

A contact list of Crestron dealers and programmers can be found in the
Database area.
Yahoo!