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--- In Crestron@..., Neil Dorin <neildorin@...> wrote:

You best bet is to use parallel sets of crosspoints a for different kinds of logic (AV, lighting, HVAC, etc.)

That means a separate ECCONNECT for each set of crosspoints. I typically use a CCROSS for each type of logic with its own ECCONNECT and as many ECROSSes as devices/zones/rooms as the CCROSS should control.

For grouping, I find It best to use a "group" ECROSS that handles the FB back to the CCROSS and then use either a subset of crosspoints or buffers to have devices/rooms/zones follow the "group" ECROSS.

While you can have a one to many relationship it's difficult to manage feedback correctly as all of ECROSS FB will get jammed together on the CCROSS they all connect to. .

Also, when you have undefined FB joins on an ECROSS they are forced to 0 on connect effectively clearing your feedback on the CCROSS.

Keeping parallel logic separated avoids these issues. I only allow a 1 to 1 CCROSS to ECROSS relationship, but because you can have an AV CCROSS, lighting CCROSS, HVAC CCROSS, etc you can e controlling the theatre AV, games room lighting and basement HVAC all at the same time with correct feedback.

-Neil Dorin

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On 2012-12-24, at 11:35 AM, "Sean" <seanzombie56@...> wrote:

I'm trying to figure out if my issues are in my theory, programming, or both.

I use crosspoints well in a one to one situation. My question is, can I use one ccross to connect to a few ecross connections with fb staying along the way.

My system seems to work fine controlling devices, but when I connect to another ecross, I lose FB from my original ecross.

Hope this explanation helps....

From my main room, I connect to the theater via ecross for lights, etc., while keeping that connection alive, I connect to a blu-ray player via ecross. Now my commands seem to work, but what happens is....when I connect to the second ecross, my display fb drops and only comes back when I select theater again.

In watching simpl debugger, ids dont change or get disconnected from my "room ccross" after selecting blu-ray.

Does that fb get dropped when connecting to another ecross without fb across that join, or is there something missing in my program?

A side note, volume seems to stay when connecting from a room with volume to a room without volume, so I assumed fb would stay if nothing is on that attached join.

Happy Holidays, thanks in advance for any help.

Sean

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--- In Crestron@..., "jcdigitalmethod" <j.j.cunningham@...> wrote:

Can I share gateways between programs in 3 series processors?

Scenario 1: (2) MLX-3's (each running on different programs in the MC3)from the built in gateway, with different RF-IDs.

Scenario 2: (2) TPS-6X's (each running on different programs in the MC3)from a single shared CEN-HPRFGW, with different RF-IDs.

--- In Crestron@..., "steve_advanced" <maverick2112@...> wrote:

I am looking for a used 2 series processor to be used to drive some lighting at my house. I f anyone has a unit laying around an is in need of some quick cash, drop me a noe and we can discuss.

Thanks

Steve

--- In Crestron@..., "matt57585758" <crestron5758@...> wrote:

We have also discovered the freeze issues when working with the DMPS-300. We have concluded that it's caused by the OOTBF. I've also noticed that back in the day when working with the MPS-300 (QM), Simpl would also freeze since that also had OOTBF.

Matt

--- In Crestron@..., "Bobis" <msnsugerpurjo@> wrote:

Is it only when working with DPMS-300?

Have had similar problems with my computer with programs freezing for some time.
After removing all the printers I had installed (2 on network) i cut the coffebreak from 15s to about 3s

--- In Crestron@..., Lincoln King-Cliby <lincoln@> wrote:

It's the DPMS-300.

SIMPL Windows goes into "take a coffee break mode" on open, save, autosave, and if you're lucky even on close.

It may be my PTSD but every time it does that I start to worry about how current the .ASV...

If you're feeling lucky, you can turn Autosave off but that is at your own peril.

Various people at various levels of Crestron have been promising a fix "soon" since October.

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Lincoln King-Cliby, CTS
Sr. Systems Architect | Crestron Certified Programmer (Silver)
ControlWorks Consulting, LLC
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Crestron Authorized Independent Programmer


-----Original Message-----
From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On Behalf Of wretaudio
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 9:11 AM
To: Crestron@...
Subject: [Crestron] Simpl Windows Freezes

I have started working on my first DMPS-300 Simpl Windows project. While I am not at all a fan of this piece of hardware, I have started having Simpl Windows freeze up for several seconds and then start working again. Just wondering if this is something to do with the latest version of Simpl, or is this particular to a Simpl project involving the DMPS-300?



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--- In Crestron@..., "stefuel2" <stefuel@...> wrote:

My 42" LG has it and the protocol works well enough. I want to put a 65" in the family room and would like serial for that also. I don't see any new ones that list that they have it even if it's there.
I don't think my LG listed a serial port. I discovered that when I took it out of the box.

Chip

On Dec 23, 2012, at 5:48 PM, mrtgilberty <mrtgilbert@...> wrote:



I'm using a C2N-IIF loaded with a WAV file to drive the local doorbell
speaker of the C2N-IIF as well as feeding the speaker audio from the
C2N-IIF back into the house into a BIPAD.

On my test bench this works fine, running into two amps to generate the
audio, so the audio generates fine.

However when installed at the customer site, the local doorbell (a
Holovision door entry system) plays the audio fine, however the audio going
through the BIPAD doesn't work and makes a very quiet muffled 'odd
sounding' noise.

The audio out from the C2N-IIF (via the Speaker outputs) - I have the SPK
+/- wires going into the local speaker as well as feeding into a Direct
Injection box to take the speaker level down to line level. This then feeds
into one of the RCA stereo inputs of the BIPAD and into a AMPX.

I've adjusted the impedence of the Direct Injection box from full to none
however I can't seem to get anything to work.

The levels of the AMPX are set to a sensible level and the rooms in
question are 'activated' when the audio is playing after the doorbell
button is pressed. The doorbell sound then plays on the local door-station
speaker but not over the speakers in the house (ie via the BIPAD / AMP).

Could there be a delay in the AMPX turning on each zone, or is there some
sort of incompatibility of using a WAV file to play through the BIPAD and
AMPX? (I'm beginning to clutch at straws as to what could be wrong!)

Thanks

Tom




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On Dec 23, 2012, at 5:48 PM, mrtgilberty <mrtgilbert@...> wrote:



I'm using a C2N-IIF loaded with a WAV file to drive the local doorbell
speaker of the C2N-IIF as well as feeding the speaker audio from the
C2N-IIF back into the house into a BIPAD.

On my test bench this works fine, running into two amps to generate the
audio, so the audio generates fine.

However when installed at the customer site, the local doorbell (a
Holovision door entry system) plays the audio fine, however the audio going
through the BIPAD doesn't work and makes a very quiet muffled 'odd
sounding' noise.

The audio out from the C2N-IIF (via the Speaker outputs) - I have the SPK
+/- wires going into the local speaker as well as feeding into a Direct
Injection box to take the speaker level down to line level. This then feeds
into one of the RCA stereo inputs of the BIPAD and into a AMPX.

I've adjusted the impedence of the Direct Injection box from full to none
however I can't seem to get anything to work.

The levels of the AMPX are set to a sensible level and the rooms in
question are 'activated' when the audio is playing after the doorbell
button is pressed. The doorbell sound then plays on the local door-station
speaker but not over the speakers in the house (ie via the BIPAD / AMP).

Could there be a delay in the AMPX turning on each zone, or is there some
sort of incompatibility of using a WAV file to play through the BIPAD and
AMPX? (I'm beginning to clutch at straws as to what could be wrong!)

Thanks

Tom




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--- In Crestron@..., "RobK" <fooguy89@...> wrote:

2 series as a slave are CIP. They're not Gateway. As such you have to put the IP Entry in the IP config tab in SIMPL before you compile it if you expect to upload it w/the program, or you can do it via toolbox like you did.

No magic, it's expected behavior, and they should know that.



--- In Crestron@..., "Kris" <kris.k@> wrote:

When I compile and load the program to the cp3 the ip table does not include the eslaved pro2. If I manually enter the ip table entry it works fine, however the pro2 shows up as CIP instead of gateway. Anyone run into this? TB support said they would "tap some shoulders" and get back to me.

--- In Crestron@..., "Tony Golden" <mrgolden@...> wrote:

In programming, Android devices are setup exactly like iOS devices. In Simpl,
use the Crestron Mobile touchpanel symbol. In VtPro, you can either use Mobile,
Mobile Pro, or "for Phones" for iPhones or Android phones - the latter allows
custom resolutions to accommodate the various Android screen sizes. Similarly
for tablets, you can use Mobile G, Mobile Pro G, or "for Tablets" - all will
work. But again, only the "for Phones" and "for Tablets" panel types allow
resolutions other than iPhone or iPad standard.

--- On Sunday, December 23, 2012 at 11:03 AM, geekygizmo wrote:

After looking through simpl and vtpro, I can't seem to find the appropriate
symbols and panel type. In simpl I find a number of ipad/ipd/iphone
Ethernet devices but no "Mobile pro" device or a reference to Android. In
VTpro I can save as several typesof mobile pro projects but they all say
iphone/ipad in the descriptions, again I can't find any reference to
Android. My Crestron database is dated 5/2012 (31.00.004.00) and device
database is 9/2012 (45.00.019.00). I figure they are new enough since the
Android app came out in late 2011??

I find references on this group for using the ipad symbol for android too
but can not confirm that is correct and I like many others just get an
"invalid port" error when I try using any of the above combinations.

Could someone clarify exactly what is needed to setup an Android app,
exactly which symbols and panel type to select?

Thanks for any help in advance,
GG