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Hi Jason,

As Heath says, it's hard to comment on why compile times/program size are what they are in your case, though I think he was drawing attention to the fact that your system design apparently grows exponentially as either increases - which can't be good.

In terms of Modules vs. "straight" Symbols I'll do my best to shed some light on things (assuming I've understood the situation correctly...):

Simpl Windows user modules are purely a convenience. They provide encapsulation of reusable logic which allows for reuse, easier/safer modification of multiple instances, code readability (one would hope!) and smaller main program size.

For each instance of your logic in your program, if you include a reference to the user module, your program file contains a single reference to the user module logic, as opposed to all of the symbols that are contained within. That would account for the huge variantion in size of your SMW file.

When you compile, simple windows reads the user module and *effectively* in-lines your module in the compilation - a new set of symbols for each and every reference. The resulting compiled program is exactyly the same - no difference in symbols/signals/processor resources. It's not like a traditional library module that has a shared code segment.

Unfortunately, I have a suspicion that Simpl Windows reads the user module each and every time it is included, which will also account for the significantly longer compile times when using masses of modules. [Possibly a contributor as to why SB takes so long to compile?]

The basic "primitive" symbols are all read into Simpl Windows at startup (part of the long program startup time!) so a program comprised of native symbols will not share that file IO overhead.

Having said that, the benefits of using modules will normally far outweigh any compile time overhead, so they're definitely a *good* thing.

If you're finding the program unmanageable or compile times are longer than you'd like, I would be tempted to look at why your design requires "Rooms * User_Interfaces" modules. Heath's suggestion of using Crosspoints should provide a much more linear growth.

Hope that helps,
Ol

A while back someone suggested a device to show HDCP compliant devices on a Non-HDCP compliant monitor.
Any suggestions?

Will be working with the ME46A soon. I do not have it in front of me yet. I read all the above posts so far and wanted to see what was working better. The Samsung 400P + 460P (cm), Samsung 2008, or the Samsung CEC mods? I will be using this with a DM-RMC-100. I figure I could use 232 or CEC if possible?

Thanks,
cyberbri

--- In Crestron@..., "flannel_avenger" <rlray@> wrote:

I did a job with a ME55A a few months ago and I just used the Crestron Module (Samsung 400P + 460P LCD (cm)) and it worked fine for Power On, Power Off, and switching between the analog inputs.

It was a retrofit to an existing system with only analog sources so I didn't try switching to any of the digital inputs.

--- In Crestron@..., "on37j" <janusz.kalaczynski@> wrote:

So here it comes. Much anticipated by me ME46A 46" commercial LED beauty with all bells and whistles, nice footprint, RS232 In and Out, module ready etc. And does not switch inputs, volume commands lock it up in continous flow of feedback. Only PowerOn and Off executed. Firing up a CD manual and here it is on page 43 - "This model does not support BNC, HDMI1, HDMI1_PC, HDMI2, HDMI_2PC and DisplayPort... DVI_video, HDMI_PC and HDMI2_PC cannot be used with the Set command. They only respond to "Get" commands"...
I am scratching my head right now. What have I just brought ? VGA-only device ?

I did a job with a ME55A a few months ago and I just used the Crestron Module (Samsung 400P + 460P LCD (cm)) and it worked fine for Power On, Power Off, and switching between the analog inputs.

It was a retrofit to an existing system with only analog sources so I didn't try switching to any of the digital inputs.

--- In Crestron@..., "on37j" <janusz.kalaczynski@> wrote:

So here it comes. Much anticipated by me ME46A 46" commercial LED beauty with all bells and whistles, nice footprint, RS232 In and Out, module ready etc. And does not switch inputs, volume commands lock it up in continous flow of feedback. Only PowerOn and Off executed. Firing up a CD manual and here it is on page 43 - "This model does not support BNC, HDMI1, HDMI1_PC, HDMI2, HDMI_2PC and DisplayPort... DVI_video, HDMI_PC and HDMI2_PC cannot be used with the Set command. They only respond to "Get" commands"...
I am scratching my head right now. What have I just brought ? VGA-only device ?

Hi guys,

how do you save scenes using touchpanel?

do you guys have a module?

the system uses a din rail lighting system.

it has dimmable and switchable loads.

thanks.

It can be disabled via TMS or the on-screen menus but by default yes.

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Lincoln King-Cliby, CTS
Sr. Systems Architect | Crestron Certified Master Programmer (Silver)
ControlWorks Consulting, LLC
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Crestron Authorized Independent Programmer


-----Original Message-----
From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On Behalf Of techybabble
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 9:23 AM
To: Crestron@...
Subject: [Crestron] Re: Tandberg C40 Module Help

Does username and password have to be used when going rs232?


--- In Crestron@..., "jcdigitalmethod" <j.j.cunningham@> wrote:

- Check username and password
- Try telnet and see if you have the same issues.
- Try some of the API commands and see if the unit is responding how it should.


--- In Crestron@..., "techybabble" <davelynn@> wrote:

I've happing trouble getting the Crestron module working, the one from the crestron site. It is the Tandberg C90 + C60 Serial v1.3 PRO2 Demo.
According to the Tandberg site is should work with the C40 as well.
I have communication with the box, but even simple things such as IR emulation commands don't respond.

Is there some secret to using these modules. I REALLY need the phonebook directory portion of the module.
All help is appreciated.

thanks

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I have a beautiful Christie here, not having any luck swithcing inputs.

I am talking to it, power on and off, but formatting the string to select the 'channel' and input are escaping me.

There are four 'channels' programmed to the projector, I am attempting to access channel 12, utilizing the DVI-A input.

Called Christie, not much help. Anyone play with one of these yet?

Does anyone have a module, protocol or anything that could help me with a DMP-BDT500 from panasonic, I have the iphone app so I assume the protocol is available, any help would be great thanks

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So the latest I2P module updates include a module for Sub-Zero
refrigerators over RS485.

Nothing wrong with that, but it's still really amusing to me. :)

- Chip

I want analog outputs for beer count and Coca Cola count.


On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 8:55 AM, Chip <cfm@...> wrote:

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So the latest I2P module updates include a module for Sub-Zero
refrigerators over RS485.

Nothing wrong with that, but it's still really amusing to me. :)

- Chip

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A contact list of Crestron dealers and programmers can be found in the Database area.
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