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new firmware 4.007.0004

 

Day 0 for Core3 UI?
Re: Insignia NS-42P650A11

 

Old thread but purchased an Insignia 40" LCD for the guestroom today ($349). The IR Codes in the Crestron Library under Insignia did not work, but the Broksonic CTGV-4563TCT (Infrared Control) worked. FYI.

--- In Crestron@..., "h" <web1111a@...> wrote:


try lg ir codes

In the past they have worked for me with a universal remote


--- In Crestron@..., "innoventgroup" <innoventgroup@> wrote:

Hey Jacob,

Unfortuantly, as far as I know, there are no drivers for any of the Insignia TV's. I know that telling you that no driver exists is not helping but I wanted to let you know what I have tried and what the results were.

1. Tried developing my own IR codes, via the learner and the origional remote, with mixed results. I can get the On/Off to work but the volume is all jacked up. I can get the input to work but only as a step through fuction.

2. Tried developing IR codes via the lerner and a harmony one remote. Still nothing more than what was available with the origional remote.

3. Tried using CEC over the DM. Nuttin!!

If you find a solution, please let the rest of us know. At present, my answer to the client is simply, there are no current solutions.

Have Fun,
DAVE

--- In Crestron@..., "jacobbalcit" <jacobtbal@> wrote:

I have a customer that wants to use their existing consumer grade Insignia's with a DM system. I tried to talk to Insignia to see if they had discrete IR commands for power and input select, but after 5 minutes of trying to explain the difference from a discrete command and a universal remote code I gave up. And waiting to hear from the engineering department in a week doesnt really help...the lady was really nice though!

With that said, I assume there are no published discrete IR commands for these TVs? If they are out there and anyone knows of them I'd really appreciate the help!

Thanks,
Jacob
Re: Sort of OT: Seamless WiFi roaming?

 

I can't say how the devices "see" the wireless network but Cisco Lightweight Access Points (LWAPs) with a Cisco Wireless LAN Controller (WLC) have always worked beautifully as long as the RF site survey and configuration is done correctly.

In one project I was even able to use a TPMC-8X in the elevator (one of the corners was kind of iffy, though)

I think one of the keys is since the WLC has "birds-eye" view of the network whereas autonomous APs are only aware of their immediate surroundings some tricks can be pulled to "encourage" a device to associate with and then roam to a specific access point.

Also, with a WLC/WDS in play the authentication/authorization is handed off as well when the device roams from one AP to another so there's not the delay in making the client reauthenticate with a new AP.

I'm running older Cisco autonomous APs at home with WDS and TPMC-8Xes (x2) plus a few iPod touches and laptops and the roaming is seamless. Bonus is on the Crestron SSID (where I'm using MAC authentication instead of LEAP all of the APs use a common RADIUS server for MAC Address authentication so if I add or remove a device it only needs to be done one place.

Lincoln

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-----Original Message-----
From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On Behalf Of floyd1212
Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2012 5:18 PM
To: Crestron@...
Subject: [Crestron] Sort of OT: Seamless WiFi roaming?

I guess this isn't really OT since networking and WiFi seems to be half of what we all do these days...

I'm looking for a wireless system (WAPs and controller) that can solve the "sticky WAP" syndrome where a wireless device will hang on to a weak WAP until it has totally lost signal before moving to a new, stronger WAP.

It seems that most of the controllers out there, like Ruckus and others, make configuring an array of WAPs much easier, potentially even automatic, but they still appear as individual WAPs to the client, setup on different channels with the same SSID. Am I correct?

The only thing I have come across that claims to solve this problem is from Meru (and Pakedge, which appears to re-badge the Meru product) with their "Virtual Cell" technology, but I haven't used either system yet. Does anyone have any experience with the Meru or Pakedge controllers, or is there something else out there that works like it?

Thanks,

-David



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Sort of OT: Seamless WiFi roaming?

 

I guess this isn't really OT since networking and WiFi seems to be half of what we all do these days...

I'm looking for a wireless system (WAPs and controller) that can solve the "sticky WAP" syndrome where a wireless device will hang on to a weak WAP until it has totally lost signal before moving to a new, stronger WAP.

It seems that most of the controllers out there, like Ruckus and others, make configuring an array of WAPs much easier, potentially even automatic, but they still appear as individual WAPs to the client, setup on different channels with the same SSID. Am I correct?

The only thing I have come across that claims to solve this problem is from Meru (and Pakedge, which appears to re-badge the Meru product) with their "Virtual Cell" technology, but I haven't used either system yet. Does anyone have any experience with the Meru or Pakedge controllers, or is there something else out there that works like it?

Thanks,

-David
Re: Protocol rant...

 

I remember many years ago on a CNMS, I had a system that had an 8 bit checksum. The fun part - the each byte was expressed not only as it's ascii counterpart, but reversed (i.e. instead of sending the single byte &#92;xAB, you had to send the 2 characters "B" then "A"). I remember doing something elaborate with a TXA, sending the string to a symbol that took each byte and spit it out as a readable string, then to an OP103 to parse things apart, remove the spaces that the previous symbol injected, flip the analogs around to another TXA to generate the real string. Fun stuff. Today, SIMPL+, screw doing that in SIMPL.

--- In Crestron@..., Eric Walters <sentry07@...> wrote:

Thank you for participating in this week's "Can It Be Done In SIMPL"
challenge. Stay tuned for next week's challenge.

On Sat, Apr 21, 2012 at 12:12 PM, Kool-Aid Drinker <
crug@...> wrote:

Nice. I ended up using the same number of symbols for a basic version,
but saved a crap-ton on digital signals.

Four SUB$ also looks better in terms of when to send the checksum (if
you're into that whole automatic send thing). Currently, I'm sending
it 1 tick after the string arrives, having no easy way to tell when
processing is done. Adding SAW pulses to the outputs of the SUB$ would
let you determine the last character was processed.


On Sat, 21 Apr 2012 11:04:22 -0700, Eric Walters <sentry07@...>
wrote:

If you want less moving parts, 4 SUB$ in 2 pairs will break your string
into even and odd bytes. One SUB$ with parameters (1,1) goes into a STOA,
the other SUB$ with parameters (2,100) feed the other set of SUB$. So when
you get a string in, it hits one pair of SUB$. They push one byte into
your
logic, and the rest of the string to the other set. They push one byte
into
logic and the rest of the string back to the first two. I had gotten that
far and put in the ATODs, XORs, and DTOAs to do the XOR logic, but the
SUB$
were getting too much priority over the XOR logic and nothing was getting
calculated.

On Sat, Apr 21, 2012 at 6:45 AM, Kool-Aid Drinker <
crug@...
wrote:
Yup. It expects the string to be checksummmed to arrive whole, and
then deals however many bytes are in that serial signal.

Having the string arrive in pieces would require extra logic, but
should be do-able.

Basic idea is: SIO and INIT break the string into analog bytes, TOGGLE
and ABUFs sort them into even and odd, ATOD decomposes the bytes, XORs
do the deed, DFFs keeps the running total, DTOA, ATOS, blah blah blah.

On Sat, 21 Apr 2012 08:03:57 -0000, "Chip" <cfm@...> wrote:


Did that account for messages of varying lengths?

- Chip


--- In Crestron@..., Kool-Aid Drinker <crug@> wrote:

Only took 51 symbols for a basic version of the checksum that started
the thread.

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Re: CP3 Question

 

If you use a CP2 / CP2E as a slave to a MC3, the IR functions as it would if you programmed the CP2 / CP2E directly. It does not do the "one at a time" that the MC3 does.

--- In Crestron@..., "Witmarquzot" <tdurrant420@...> wrote:

I would say make it a remote equal. That way you don't have to worry about it.

--- In Crestron@..., "Jonny" <ComeAlive@> wrote:

I have be thinking about this all week, as I am designing a large system.
So here is the thought, would a CP2E as an Ethernet slave fix this issue? I
haven't been able to get a real answer as to whether the IR output issue is
related to the physical IR section of the MC3 or if it is more in the core
operations of the MC3 and would affect any slave equipment that is defined
in the program running on the MC3.



From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On Behalf
Of ChrisK
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2012 11:55 PM
To: Crestron@...
Subject: [Crestron] Re: CP3 Question





It is disappointing, even understanding the original purpose.

As an aside to your example, I always set a 'turn-on' volume for every zone
(AVR, Pad8, sonnex, etc.) to eliminate the blow your head off issue.

A queue system could be created (Apparently Chap has one) that could be
stepped thru on the release of the previous IR/digital signal so even in
this scenario:
P+H Vol+, Press TV On, Press SRC select
The release of the Vol+ could trigger the ON, Release of the on could
trigger the SRC
You would have find a way to capture each digital in order and its pulse
length.

The real issue would be with P+H Volumes, especially if there were more than
one device being controlled by IR.
First, user experience would be erratic if one person was ramping and
another started it wouldn't start for the second right away.
Then, any delay in start of the Vol Ramp coupled with a puse length capture
for later release would likely be VERY BAD!!!

This is at its root a hardware issue, so unless/until Crestron comes out
with an MC3v2 I think it would be best to limit all commands to pulses with
a queue system.

This would suck for the customer to have to pulse Vol+/- to change the vol,
but much better than a runaway volume!!
BTW, why are ALL runaway volumes, Volume UP??? and never Volume DOWN???

The good news is that most devices that control volume can be controlled
via, serial, IP, etc.

.02223 cents
Chris K............;)

--- In Crestron@... <mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com> , Jay
Basen <jay.m.basen@> wrote:

Engineering may have designed the MC3 for a one-room/hospitality
installation but once sales and marketing got hold of the MC3 it became the
most powerful processor that Crestron had ever built. It was faster and had
more memory than a Rack2. It was capable of running one program for all your
A/V needs and you could even run a second program written in D3 to control
your lighting system. It is unfortunate that the limitation in IR hardware
is the only thing I have seen that separates the promise from reality.

I'm not sure that there is any way to truly program around the problem and
I'd be very thankful if someone could show me that I'm wrong. The issue as I
see it is that we can all carefully program our systems so IR commands
during system start up or shutdown are separated by enough time so they
don't collide. However, if, for example:
1) the teenage son was watching an action film the night before with the
volume cranked up
2) Mom turns on the system to watch the morning news
3) As soon as the sound starts she firmly plants her finger on the volume
down button and holds it there
4) The stream of volume down IR commands are now going to hammer any other
commands required to properly start up the system

Now the system is in a state without all the gear properly turned on and
potentially equipment not set to the proper inputs.

Of course you could block all other IR commands during the start up
sequence but that isn't a good solution either.

I'd love to know if there is a way to code around this scenario such that
the system would really be bulletproof. You could implement a queue, as was
suggested, but since we don't get feedback as to how long it takes for any
IR command to be completed by the hardware, the only way I see to implement
this is to empty the queue with a timer that allows the maximum amount of
time an IR command might need before sending the next one to the hardware. I
believe this would have problems with the scenario where someone is holding
down their finger on a volume button. The IR signals being sent out would
lag behind what was being queued and you would have significant over-run
where the volume moved beyond where the user wanted.

I know Crestron is aware of the problem. I'm hoping they can implement a
more intelligent queuing mechanism than we have the tools for. However, as I
said, I'd love for someone to tell me that there really is a bulletproof
solution we can implement ourselves.

Jay







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Re: Off Topic - killing laptops - any advice?

Trey Chamrad - Hometunes
 

our staffs laptop come apart once a year and we clean them when they start
to act up and it always is related to dirt and grime on the heat sinks, and
those being blocked



I say that, but there is only one of my guys and myself that can take it
apart, not break it, clean it, and then remember how it goes back together,
and it turn on.not for everybody is my point



but thanks to YouTube, guys like to show off their laptop breakdown skills,
so you should be able to find video on how to take your particular model a
part



we are in Texas and its dry, hot, and windy all the time all the time, and
our laptops suck all that stuff in when trying to stay cool on hot days
where even the AC can't even keep up



my 2 cents since we took a Toshiba a part this week that was turning off out
of now where, took it a part, cleaned it, like new.



From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On Behalf
Of boogers2u
Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2012 11:39 AM
To: Crestron@...
Subject: [Crestron] Re: Off Topic - killing laptops - any advice?





a warm laptop is a sign it is doing what it is supposed to do...get rid of
the heat.

Laptops tend to not run the fans very well on batteries, so I avoid
intensive stuff unless I'm plugged into the wall.

I am concerned about laptops that have cooling fan openings on the bottom.
Humans tend to hold laptops in their laps. But, that blocks the airflow.
Apple thermally couples the video and Pentium chips to the aluminum case to
help get rid of heat.

Applecare? Are you having issues with video or the whole system?

--- In Crestron@... <mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com> ,
"oldspunky" <paul@...> wrote:

For the past 5 or 6 years the laptops I use for program development have
been dying (about 1 a year). I have tried Toshiba, Lenovo, HP, and Panasonic
Toughbooks. So this time I tried a Mac Powerbook (with VMware Fusion and
Windows 7. Now the Mac is getting clunky too.
Re: Off Topic - killing laptops - any advice?

 

a warm laptop is a sign it is doing what it is supposed to do...get rid of the heat.

Laptops tend to not run the fans very well on batteries, so I avoid intensive stuff unless I'm plugged into the wall.

I am concerned about laptops that have cooling fan openings on the bottom. Humans tend to hold laptops in their laps. But, that blocks the airflow. Apple thermally couples the video and Pentium chips to the aluminum case to help get rid of heat.

Applecare? Are you having issues with video or the whole system?

--- In Crestron@..., "oldspunky" <paul@...> wrote:

For the past 5 or 6 years the laptops I use for program development have been dying (about 1 a year). I have tried Toshiba, Lenovo, HP, and Panasonic Toughbooks. So this time I tried a Mac Powerbook (with VMware Fusion and Windows 7. Now the Mac is getting clunky too.
Percent object on iPad vtpro project does not agree with init

Andy
 

I've found that initializing an analog signal to a specific percentage with an init doesn't always reflect an equal value in the percent object of a mobile pro g project for iPad.

init = 1% -> Percent object = 0%
init = 655d -> Percent object = 0%
init = 656d -> Percent object = 1%

Is this a bug or am I missing something here?

Andy
Re: Off Topic - killing laptops - any advice?

 

We use a Windows 2008 server for development located in our office. It's an
HP dl360 server with 10gb of memory and dual processor 2.33 ghz Xeon quad
core. Very fast and always available when onsite or from home or the
office. Even if my laptop is misbehaving remote desktop usually works
great.

I picked up the server off of eBay for about 800$ and it supports a couple
of programmers and some office staff. The biggest downfall is we can only
have one copy of vt pro running at a time but with just two programmers it
really hasn't been that big of a deal.

Best part is we can use cheap little disposable laptops and still have the
power of quad core and 10gb of memory available to us.

Nick

On Apr 22, 2012, at 8:18 AM, Mark <markrkaye@...> wrote:



i use an ASUS G73S
very good cooling

mark

--- In Crestron@..., "oldspunky" <paul@...> wrote:

For the past 5 or 6 years the laptops I use for program development have
been dying (about 1 a year). I have tried Toshiba, Lenovo, HP, and
Panasonic Toughbooks. So this time I tried a Mac Powerbook (with VMware
Fusion and Windows 7. Now the Mac is getting clunky too.

I am probably overloading them, but when I have several copies of Simpl
Windows, Vtpro-e, Autocad, xpanel, Toolbox, and probably a Clearone or
Biamp configuration file (and perhaps Photoshop) all open at the same time
the laptops get pretty hot. Unfortunately I usually need all those things
when working on a program or bringing up a system.

I do a lot of my programming on the road so using a desktop is probably
not an option.

I have been using Radioshack fans and they seem to help, but my Mac is
still getting hot enough to fry eggs or my hands. Any ideas? Or should I
just accept this and budget a new laptop (and software) every year or so.?

Thanks,
Paul



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Re: SystemBuilder & prodigy project

 

Prodigy composer no longer supports system builder, system builder was causing big technical support issue volume. People would be fine in composer and when the got into system builder it would be ugly. You can use either or not both anymore. They also discontinued a lot of prOdigy product I believe for the same reason. I think they want to support a few products and make it easy for the few products you can use.

--- In Crestron@..., Nathan Hesson <nhesson@...> wrote:

Not that I know of. When I asked TB about it they said, programs that used
the prodigy composer couldn't be opened in SB but you could still build a
prodigy system in SB from scratch without the composer.

On Sunday, April 22, 2012, davids7311 wrote:

Is it a feature that can be deselected ?

--- In Crestron@... <javascript:;>, Nathan Hesson <nhesson@>
wrote:

That's a feature of the new version of SB.
On Apr 22, 2012 6:35 AM, "davids7311" <dserouge@> wrote:

Hi,
Since i've updated SB to version 3.13.014, when i try to load a prodigy
project in SB it's always open with the prodigy wizard. i'm unable to
edit
my project with the SB interface. Do you have an idea for this problem
?

Thanks



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A contact list of Crestron dealers and programmers can be found in the
Database area.
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A contact list of Crestron dealers and programmers can be found in the
Database area.
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Re: SystemBuilder & prodigy project

 

Not that I know of. When I asked TB about it they said, programs that used
the prodigy composer couldn't be opened in SB but you could still build a
prodigy system in SB from scratch without the composer.

On Sunday, April 22, 2012, davids7311 wrote:

Is it a feature that can be deselected ?

--- In Crestron@... <javascript:;>, Nathan Hesson <nhesson@...>
wrote:

That's a feature of the new version of SB.
On Apr 22, 2012 6:35 AM, "davids7311" <dserouge@...> wrote:

Hi,
Since i've updated SB to version 3.13.014, when i try to load a prodigy
project in SB it's always open with the prodigy wizard. i'm unable to
edit
my project with the SB interface. Do you have an idea for this problem
?

Thanks



------------------------------------




Check out the Files area for useful modules, documents, and drivers.

A contact list of Crestron dealers and programmers can be found in the
Database area.
Yahoo!
Groups Links







------------------------------------




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A contact list of Crestron dealers and programmers can be found in the
Database area.
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Re: C2ENET 2

 

You would have to setup NAT routing to 'pass through' the processor.

--- In Crestron@..., "rabih" <marselle001@...> wrote:

Is the trafic on Port A is passed internaly to port B if the ports are connected in differenet V-lan
Re: SystemBuilder & prodigy project

 

Is it a feature that can be deselected ?

--- In Crestron@..., Nathan Hesson <nhesson@...> wrote:

That's a feature of the new version of SB.
On Apr 22, 2012 6:35 AM, "davids7311" <dserouge@...> wrote:

Hi,
Since i've updated SB to version 3.13.014, when i try to load a prodigy
project in SB it's always open with the prodigy wizard. i'm unable to edit
my project with the SB interface. Do you have an idea for this problem ?

Thanks



------------------------------------




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Re: SystemBuilder & prodigy project

 

That's a feature of the new version of SB.

On Apr 22, 2012 6:35 AM, "davids7311" <dserouge@...> wrote:

Hi,
Since i've updated SB to version 3.13.014, when i try to load a prodigy
project in SB it's always open with the prodigy wizard. i'm unable to edit
my project with the SB interface. Do you have an idea for this problem ?

Thanks



------------------------------------




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Re: Off Topic - killing laptops - any advice?

Mark
 

i use an ASUS G73S
very good cooling

mark

--- In Crestron@..., "oldspunky" <paul@...> wrote:

For the past 5 or 6 years the laptops I use for program development have been dying (about 1 a year). I have tried Toshiba, Lenovo, HP, and Panasonic Toughbooks. So this time I tried a Mac Powerbook (with VMware Fusion and Windows 7. Now the Mac is getting clunky too.

I am probably overloading them, but when I have several copies of Simpl Windows, Vtpro-e, Autocad, xpanel, Toolbox, and probably a Clearone or Biamp configuration file (and perhaps Photoshop) all open at the same time the laptops get pretty hot. Unfortunately I usually need all those things when working on a program or bringing up a system.

I do a lot of my programming on the road so using a desktop is probably not an option.

I have been using Radioshack fans and they seem to help, but my Mac is still getting hot enough to fry eggs or my hands. Any ideas? Or should I just accept this and budget a new laptop (and software) every year or so.?

Thanks,
Paul
Re: Polycom QDX6000

Raph Paf
 

Here a document with thie list of functionnal command on a QDX6000

--- In Crestron@..., "mcjaran" <mcjaran@...> wrote:

Anyone familiar with the commands differences between the QDX6000 and the HDX9000.

Using the HDX TCPIP Module to control the QDX but quite a few of the commands dont really work, not been familiar with the units capabilities i am wondering what commands im leaving out.

All IR emulators work some of the others do as well.
SystemBuilder & prodigy project

 

Hi,
Since i've updated SB to version 3.13.014, when i try to load a prodigy project in SB it's always open with the prodigy wizard. i'm unable to edit my project with the SB interface. Do you have an idea for this problem ?

Thanks
C2ENET 2

 

Is the trafic on Port A is passed internaly to port B if the ports are connected in differenet V-lan
Re: CI-Somfy-RTS v1.0 Module

 

Did you try a "Recompile all" ? Alt+F12.


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Le 21 avr. 2012 � 19:16, Artur a 閏rit :

The module is from here



Thanks

--- In Crestron@..., "Artur" <artur.triton@...> wrote:

Hi group.
I'am trying to integrate this module to MC3 program and geting this error then trying to compile for 3 series:
"Errors in .NET cross compiler"
Any ideas what is wrong?
Compiling for 2 series working fine.

Thanks

Artur


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