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Crosspoint ECCON Timing

 

Hi All,
I'm working on a new development project with crosspoints again and wanted to get others' opinions regarding disconnect/connect timings.
My basic worldview with regard to any XP subsystem, is to have one Control XP with its own ECCON that connects to one Equipment XP. when another device is needed, I disconnect from the first and connect to the second.
I.e. a Control XP is never connected to more than one Equipment XP at any one time (I know that there are other use-cases, but this is what is most modular and scalable in my mind...)

Over the years, I have used various timing between disconnect and reconnect processes (usually 2-4 logic waves).?
I would use LWP (1d) signals for triggers...and primarily 4-series processors and possibly VC-4. of course, I'll need to consider 3-series for the next year or two until the supply issues are worked thru...

Does anyone recommend a 1-logicWave transition between Disconnect? and re-connect, or is the consensus to use a few LWs for this??
TIA!


Re: Large Scree TV/Monitor - Power On/Standby with HDMI sync

 

The EXTRON HD CTL can provide this functionality. It has an HDMI pass through and a RS-232 port. You can configure the device to send an RS-232 command when HDMI signal is detected and when it drops.


Re: H.265 and TSW/Crestron App

 

Kudos to Gary and Jimel at Speco! They were very helpful on this...So with at least the N16NRN NVR with cameras connected to its internal switch, the URL for viewing Cameras is:
rtsp://admin:<password>@192.168.1.140:554/chID=X&streamType=sub
Where <password> is your password, although we ended up using an md5 encryptor for this...
and where X is the camera channel # (1-16 in this case)

The final issue was to get the Sub-stream changed from the default H.265 to H.264. This is unintuitively found in Settings/Network/Stream Settings/Substream settings
This seems to resolve the issue... (we'll see!? HaHa...)


Re: How do I create a list of touch panels in Simpl# Pro

 

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Don¡¯t forget to add a using System.Collection.Generic?

Cheers

Natalie

On Aug 31, 2022, at 9:18 AM, mikes@... wrote:

?All of those panels inherit from the class BasicTriListWithSmartObject. So if you create a list containing that type List<BasicTriListWithSmartObject>, you should be able to add your panels.?

List<BasicTriListWithSmartObject> myList = new List<BasicTriListWithSmartObject>();

Tsw1070GV panel1 = new Tsw1070GV(3, this);
XpanelForSmartGraphics panel2 = new XpanelForSmartGraphics(4, this);
Tsw770GV panel3 = new Tsw770GV(5, this);
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myList.Add(panel1);
myList.Add(panel2);
myList.Add(panel3);


Re: IP Connect - Best Practices

 

I experienced one event with a 4-series having a TCP client loose connection and halt retrying, at the beginning of this year (I started a thread about it then). A reboot 'Fixed' it and I have not seen any other issues, though I've heard a few others indicate very infrequent similar issues with both TCP clients and EISC comms.? On my project with the issue, I did update the firmware (again probably around february) and haven't seen this issue again...
I agree with most that you shouldn't have to manage this, as I've had '1' on the TCP connects for 20+ years with no notable issues except the one mentioned (2,3 and now 4-series)
I did have one IP-controlled relay board that would stop communicating after ~7-10 days, but I'm very sure it was the device not Crestron. This was a very specific application so I changed this to connect only when I needed to control the relays and then disconnected again - Seems to be stable after 4-5 weeks...

I have personally changed from using a '1', to a signal driven by some start-up logic as it allows debugger testing and facilitates adding re-connect logic when needed...

Guzzup:
Though it would seem that your issue is different, I did have an issue with a Sony AVR module (back in 2018/2019) where when you disconnected the network connection to the AVR for only about 20 sec., the module would not reconnect. you had to reboot the program slot. It ended up being an issue with the S# comms that was not retrying. one of my inside Crestron Peeps fixed it and I've been using it consistently without issue since then...


Topics in Home Automation - New Article in Residential Tech Today

 

My latest article, "Smart Home Technology for Detecting the Arrival of Guests¡± is being published by the good folks at Residential Tech Today Magazine on their web site.

Detecting when a guest arrives is both a convenience for homeowners and a frequent request made to smart home integrators by their customers.? This article looks at different solutions for detecting when guests arrive starting at the perimeter of the property and working inwards to the front door.

You can find the article here:



For those interested in earlier articles that I've written, you can find those here:



Finally, for those that want to see even more content I've written about smart home technology you can find that here:



Thanks


Re: H.265 and TSW/Crestron App

 

I just realized that the settings in the Speco NVR to lower the compression to H.264 is only for the MAIN stream. I'm using the sub stream to keep things 'more stable'...:)
I have a call in to Speco to see how I can manage the Sub-stream...


Re: NewTek Tricaster control with Crestron

 

This worked for me on a project a few years back.

TCP Port: 5951
<trigger name=\x22Macro-1\x22/>\r

Michael


Re: How do I create a list of touch panels in Simpl# Pro

 

All of those panels inherit from the class BasicTriListWithSmartObject. So if you create a list containing that type List<BasicTriListWithSmartObject>, you should be able to add your panels.?

List<BasicTriListWithSmartObject> myList = new List<BasicTriListWithSmartObject>();

Tsw1070GV panel1 = new Tsw1070GV(3, this);
XpanelForSmartGraphics panel2 = new XpanelForSmartGraphics(4, this);
Tsw770GV panel3 = new Tsw770GV(5, this);
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myList.Add(panel1);
myList.Add(panel2);
myList.Add(panel3);


Re: WattBox WB-150-IPW-1B-2 and Crestron driver - Checking for power #simplwindows #crestron #poll

 

Is this with HOME or SMW?

If SMW, I would use the 'SnapAV Wattbox v1.9' module. you can download it from snap's product page on the support tab. The module has a 'Connected' digital output that will let you know if you're communicating.
Is this what you're looking for??


Re: Let¡¯s have a candid conversation.

 

What have others heard about other brands (C4, Savant, Lutron, RTI, etc.)...
Though some seem to be experiencing longer leads now, its' nothing like Crestron...
1. Is it truly just that demand for Crestron is really off the charts?
2. are other brands not being so picky about the components that they're sourcing?? if so, will we see hardware issues with them in the coming months/years?
3. I've heard some stories about increased DOA stuff with other brands (particularly Savant). can anyone confirm this?

TIA!


Re: H.265 and TSW/Crestron App

 

Thanks guys!? I figured that might be the issue...
JohnMax, This is actually a Speco NVR with (mostly) Speco cameras - Unfortunately the dealer cheaped out and has them connected directly to the NVR so I'm having to pull the streams from the NVR...
As mentioned, Stand-alone VLC works fine.? Gary at Speco showed me how to change the settings for the cameras from 265 to 264 in the 'Settings/Record/Encode' section. AND I'm using the Sub-stream instead of the Main stream, FWIW...
Still no joy...:(
VLC Codec info still says that the stream is H.265...


WattBox WB-150-IPW-1B-2 and Crestron driver - Checking for power #simplwindows #crestron #poll

 

Hello,
? ? I have a Wattbox?WB-150-IPW-1B-2 and I have the Crestron driver currently running in SimplWindows (file name: WB-IP_Crestron_IPDriver from files database). What I would like to do (or know how to do) is poll the power even if I reboot the Crestron processor, so that the On/Off buttons on my touch panel light up automatically or manually at my button press.

Thank you, dsmith


How do I create a list of touch panels in Simpl# Pro

 

In? my SimplSharpPro program I can define a touch panel as:

Tsw1070GV panel1 = new Tsw1070GV();
XpanelForSmartGraphics panel2 = new XpanelForSmartGraphics();
Tsw770GVpanel3 = new Tsw770GV();

If they are different panel types can I put them in a common list?
List<????> Panels = new List<????>();

If I?can?what?do?I?define?my?list?as??What?object type?would?I?be?able?to?put?panels?of?any?type?in??Thanks?you?for?any?help


Re: Let¡¯s have a candid conversation.

 

I'll be nice, since this isn't a fully private medium... :-)

It was about what I expected, and nothing really new (that matters to those affected). They'll probably post a recording on the Webinars page of the website soon.

--- On Tuesday, August 30, 2022 at 2:09 PM, xsdesignstudios wrote:

So did anyone check into the Zoom call yesterday? How did it go?


Re: Large Scree TV/Monitor - Power On/Standby with HDMI sync

 

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Sony Bravia has pro-mode setting that allow you to set it up to act like a computer monitor.? Turn on and off based on sync detection.? I think you can get it in up to 100¡± size and you can also get it in professional (BZ series) or high-end consumer (XR series) grades.

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From: <[email protected]> on behalf of adks1010 <totesthouse@...>
Reply-To: <[email protected]>
Date: Tuesday, August 30, 2022 at 1:21 PM
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: [crestron] Large Scree TV/Monitor - Power On/Standby with HDMI sync

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Have a system addition that will have 4 (yet to be specified) TV's connected to the outputs of a HD-DA4-4KZ-E which will be fed by a wall jack for a BYOD.

Is there a particular model of TV or even a large monitor that can allow for powering on via HDMI sync sensing? I don't have the program for this particular room and it would be great if I can specify a TV and or Monitor that will work consistently in this manner rather than a complete redo for control. TIA.


Re: Large Scree TV/Monitor - Power On/Standby with HDMI sync

 

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I haven¡¯t tried it but I think I saw a menu setting in a Samsung QM85 the other day that implied it would do that ¨C which is a pretty common configuration for e.g. WebEx Room Kits so I¡¯m not surprised that a display manufacturer would support that.

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Commercial Market Director
Sr. Systems Architect | Crestron Certified Master Programmer (Diamond)
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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of adks1010
Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2022 4:21 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [crestron] Large Scree TV/Monitor - Power On/Standby with HDMI sync

?

Have a system addition that will have 4 (yet to be specified) TV's connected to the outputs of a HD-DA4-4KZ-E which will be fed by a wall jack for a BYOD.

Is there a particular model of TV or even a large monitor that can allow for powering on via HDMI sync sensing? I don't have the program for this particular room and it would be great if I can specify a TV and or Monitor that will work consistently in this manner rather than a complete redo for control. TIA.


Re: Alternative Tstat with slab sensor?

 

Email sent. check your spam as my hotmail account often goes to junk mail :)

Thank you Pat


Large Scree TV/Monitor - Power On/Standby with HDMI sync

 

Have a system addition that will have 4 (yet to be specified) TV's connected to the outputs of a HD-DA4-4KZ-E which will be fed by a wall jack for a BYOD.

Is there a particular model of TV or even a large monitor that can allow for powering on via HDMI sync sensing? I don't have the program for this particular room and it would be great if I can specify a TV and or Monitor that will work consistently in this manner rather than a complete redo for control. TIA.


Re: IP Connect - Best Practices

 

So the first trick to getting Crestron to reconnect to a device is for it to realize the connection has dropped in the first place.? Sending a regular command to the device is the best way to make sure lost connections are detected promptly.? The second thing to know is that with a 1 on the Connect, Crestron will use an exponential backoff time where it waits 1 second to retry, then 2 seconds, 4 seconds, etc., up to 128 seconds between retries.? This can feel broken if you're not expecting it, or if you need to see a device as soon as it comes back online.? Most of my TCP clients have a 1 on the connect and send a query command of some sort every 30 seconds.??


On Sun, Aug 28, 2022 at 9:31 PM guzzep via <guzzep=[email protected]> wrote:
Posting here to see what others use to connect an IP client and keep it connected.

Over the years, I've seen different methods, from something as simple as putting a '1' on the connect line to using a Set/Reset that gets triggered when the device falls offline.

It was my understanding that the program would continue to try and connect to a device as long as the logic was high. This has always worked, but recently I've had some Philips displays that are fairly uncooperative. I could connect to them, but during testing, we'd pull the network cable or disconnect power, Even though the program logic to connect was high, after a few minutes, it would give up and stop trying to initiate the connection. My solution was once the connection feedback went low, it would trigger an oscillator, which would continue to connect the client indefinitely.

This worked, but this feels like a bit of overkill.

What do you all do?

Thanks,

g