Re: Beginner help, tips about visualisation needed

#207490

Thanks for the advice everyone, it seems as though using huge amounts of paper is going to be the only way to get through this! I have tried using draw.io but it's pretty time consuming, although more flexible than pen and paper after a mistake. It looks to me as though the only real way to get an understanding is to keep on doing it until the light goes on...

Re: Old VT Project Opening Empty

#207489

Very strange. Folks at Labs got it to open, resaved them and sent them back and now they are fine. What's going on with my system then? I have the latest versions from Master Installer, and NEWER projects open just fine.

Re: Old VT Project Opening Empty

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#207488

I have the latest software and was able to open both projects just fine.

Re: Old VT Project Opening Empty

#207487

Saw the issue today on another project. Haven't found a fix.

Using the public release of 5.9.05. Smart Graphics 2.07.07.01. I have projects for a TPMC-8X that are dated back to 2008, 2010, 2011, and 2015 (various revisions) and NONE of them are opening in VT Pro right now. They all open to a project with no pages, and no resources. The Title Bar of the window says TSW-752, even though that panel wasn't even released at the dates of these files.?

I tried restoring an ASV and it does the same thing.?

I saw the issue with some other VT Pro files too. What's going on here?

You can download two of them here:

One of them is for a V12 I think and is SmartGraphics (or was Core3UI).?

If someone can get them to open, what's going on with my PCs? It does it on multiple systems. If you can't, PLEASE tell me there is a fix. I can't afford to loose these project files.

(Sorry if you saw this post in Labs too. It's not a beta issue, but they do tend to try to investigate problems over there.)

Re: Device with EQ Adjustment on Touchpanel??

[email protected]

#207486

Thats actually exactly what I wanted to do. ?I called tech support, and they said the same thing. ?I thought I looked at it and didn't see that, but you and Tech support both said it's there, so obviously I shouldn't do my research at 2am!

Thanks

Stephen D.

Re: UI Design Problem

#207485

Its an advanced button with an embedded indirect text join. At run time its an empty string. I've also set the the scaling to none and set the button the same size as the graphic.

Re: Can I turn ICMP off?

#207484

I've had zero issues with many systems since moving the SSH port way away from where it was. ?Agreed on using VPN as a best case scenario, but so many of our clients are not tech savvy and starting VPN would be a hurdle too hard to overcome for many.

Re: Prevent a button from being pushed too quickly

#207483

I think your original question should also specify whether you want the press feedback to be high while that second is elapsing. Sometimes when I don't want buttons "enabled", I run them through a buffer and enable the buffer with a SR or some other toggle.?

I use the Debounce for making sure DM signals are steady for a few seconds before automated things happen, so when the signal flickers it doesn't cause meltdowns.

I'm sure you could it for a press and hold or as an (in)activity detector.?

Re: UI Design Problem

#207482

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What is green object between the lines?

Is it a button or a text field?

If a text field, font size settings may account for the difference at runtime.

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Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2015 11:54 AM

To: Crestron@...

Subject: [Crestron] UI Design Problem

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I'm putting together a schedule graphic and I just can't seem to get the images to line up... in VTPro there spot on, but when I open the file in xpanel to take a look at how things are running the images are all over the place. I'm attaching two images for everyone to see. One is from VTPro and the other is from xpanel...

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Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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Re: Professional Blu-ray player (recorder?)

#207481

On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 11:54 AM, nick@... [Crestron] <Crestron@...> wrote:

I use OPPO BDP-103's and while they do have Smart TV apps, they don't really get in the way,and the player is very fast, and very controllable... My only gripe is that the IP protocol is different and more of a pain than RS-232.

Thanks, Nick. We've got an order in to try a Denon DB-500BD that looks promising. It's a straightforward non-Internet app box with rs232 (and LAN) and includes balanced XLR outs.

The Smart app stuff is great if you need it, but when you work in certain environments people tend to get kind of freaky when they see that ;)

Thanks,

Jeff

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Jeff Klein, DMC- E
Audio Visual Project Manager
Dept of Defense
Washington D.C. District

?"Clothe yourselves, all of you, with humility toward one another, for God opposes the proud but gives grace to the humble." 1 Peter 5:5

Re: Beginner help, tips about visualisation needed

#207480

I wish I could do it that way... alas the consultants in my area require a written "Theory of Operations" before any actual programming can be done. I still put a bit of logic together to make sure it can be done.

On to the actual question, when I first started I was in the same boat.. where do I start? Eventually I put together a nice little folder scheme that keeps me on track. This is what I do:

I create folders with this hierarchy

RAM(passwords and anything stored in the RAM goes here)

System

Boot(items that are configured on boot for run time)

Fusion(if it exists)

Room(combination logic goes here)

Panel logic

Subpage1 logic

Subpage2 logic

etc

Devices

DM Video

DSP

Displays

Projctors

etc

Terminations (I put signals I want to track but aren't need in the program to run in here)

Then I generally work down. I also put some of main functions like device power, volume control etc into modules and re-use as much as possible.

UI Design Problem

#207479

I'm putting together a schedule graphic and I just can't seem to get the images to line up... in VTPro there spot on, but when I open the file in xpanel to take a look at how things are running the images are all over the place. I'm attaching two images for everyone to see. One is from VTPro and the other is from xpanel...

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Re: Professional Blu-ray player (recorder?)

#207478

I use OPPO BDP-103's and while they do have Smart TV apps, they don't really get in the way,and the player is very fast, and very controllable... My only gripe is that the IP protocol is different and more of a pain than RS-232.

Re: Beginner help, tips about visualisation needed

#207477

The first couple programs I did (teaching myself from nothing), I drew out the entire SIMPL program on large sheets of plotter paper. It was ridiculous but I never got lost.?

These days I just carefully name signals so I can easily use Paste Special and Search/Replace to duplicate code.?

I also try to reuse logic segments between programs when I can.?

I'm also in the camp that I do the SIMPL logic first, and do the GUI last, or these days with all of the SmartGraphics bugs, I've been doing the GUI as I do the logic. That said I never do the GUI before logic. I find that when you do that, you end up doing all kinds of backwards hacks to make the GUI fit the logic, instead of having flexible logic where you can tailor the GUI anyway the customer likes.

Re: Device with EQ Adjustment on Touchpanel??

#207476

A BLU-50 would do it in a 4x4 DSP, plus lots more power if needed for something else. Definitely overkill, but it sounds like that's what the system is anyway.

Re: Homeworks QS individual load control

Joseph Vossen

#207475

I have several projects that are controlling quite a few individual loads using the R02 versions, no issues so far.

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On Sep 8, 2015, at 11:57 AM, tim@... [Crestron] <Crestron@...> wrote:

I wanted to see if anyone has done individual load control of the Lutron Homeworks QS system and what kind of experience it has been.  In the past, I have done basic keypad emulation, but I'm looking to get more detailed on a project.  Does everything seem to work smooth?  How big of load is this going to put on the processors (this project is going to be about 100 loads)?

Re: Beginner help, tips about visualisation needed

#207474

Personally, I use lots of graph paper.?

Russound MCA

#207472

Looking to control the MCA-88. ?Any one have any info or module on it ?

Many Thanks

Re: Can I turn ICMP off?

#207473

Any other port number will still result in a large number of attempts once it is discovered (doesn't take long at all).? The only winning move is not to play (on the public Internet, with a very fragile device).

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On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 7:48 AM, steve@... [Crestron] <Crestron@...> wrote:

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There was a thread on this a while back.? Make sure you change SSH port 22 to something different.? Leaving port 22 exposed will definitely cause your processor to stop working due to a large number of hacker password attempts.

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Jeremy Weatherford

Beginner help, tips about visualisation needed

#207471

Hello,

I have been a member of this group for quite a while but lost the opportunity to learn to program SIMPL. It has now presented itself again. In the meantime i have been using other systems which appear to use a more visual way of laying out the program. How do experienced programmers start to work on a project in SIMPL, any tips on making this part of programming easier?