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--- In Crestron@..., Geoffrey Reynolds <greynlds@...> wrote:

Personal attacks are not allowed on this forum. Attack the post, NOT the
poster.

Patrick - there's no reason to assume that everyone posting here works on
commercial projects. There are a lot of residential guys here too.

Geoff (donning his moderator hat)

On Sunday, May 12, 2013, doug4684 wrote:

**


Patrick,

Take what I am about to say in the most helpful manner possible - you're
an ass and what you wrote was in fact very rude.

I had a long response written explaining that I'm a resi guy and that I'm
learning Roomview strictly for the certification exam, blah blah blah, but
I decided it wasn't worth my time to reply to your pretentious response to
my simple question. It's disappointing to know that guys like you decide to
put down fellow programmers rather than simply not reply or take the 2
minutes to point someone in the right direction.

Doug

--- In Crestron@..., Phil Bridges <gravityhammer@> wrote:

Are you saying that people that have only done residential systems
shouldn't be certified?


On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 8:01 PM, Pat B <PATB93@> wrote:

**


Doug - please take what I say in the most helpful manner. Definitely

not

trying to be rude, but trying to make sure that "being certified" still
carries weight and has some meaning.

There was one thing you said that really stood out.


"I've never done a roomview system before"

Roomview is a staple of commercial programming. IMO, "never done

roomview"

= shouldn't be able to be certified whether a test is passed or not.

Go out and do a roomview system. Figure out how it works. If you had

done

a roomview system the answer to this question would be trivial. Then

come

back next year and try for the certification.

Thanks,

Patrick


--- In Crestron@..., "doug4684" <doug@> wrote:

Hi everyone,

I'm working on the new certification test and basically one of the

programs you have to be able to message back and forth from a V12
touchpanel to the helpdesk. I'm just wondering if anyone has any

experience

integrating this in a touchpanel. I'm not quite sure where to start.

I've

never done a roomview system before. Is that functionality built into

the

roomview software/module.

If someone could point me in the right direction to get started, it

would be a big help. I need to learn this stuff so I'm not looking for

a

completed program, just some general help/tips to get started.

Thanks!

-----Original Message-----
From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On Behalf Of Lincoln King-Cliby
Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2013 9:52 PM
To: 'Crestron@...'
Subject: RE: [Crestron] Re: Certification Test - Messaging from Touchpanel

I actually thought /most/ guys here were Resi and as a commercial guy I was on the fringe...

--
Lincoln King-Cliby, CTS
Sr. Systems Architect | Crestron Certified Master Programmer (Silver)
ControlWorks Consulting, LLC
Crestron Services Provider


-----Original Message-----
From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On Behalf Of Geoffrey Reynolds
Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2013 9:39 PM
To: Crestron@...
Subject: [Crestron] Re: Certification Test - Messaging from Touchpanel

Personal attacks are not allowed on this forum. Attack the post, NOT the
poster.

Patrick - there's no reason to assume that everyone posting here works on
commercial projects. There are a lot of residential guys here too.

Geoff (donning his moderator hat)

On Sunday, May 12, 2013, doug4684 wrote:

**


Patrick,

Take what I am about to say in the most helpful manner possible - you're
an ass and what you wrote was in fact very rude.

I had a long response written explaining that I'm a resi guy and that I'm
learning Roomview strictly for the certification exam, blah blah blah, but
I decided it wasn't worth my time to reply to your pretentious response to
my simple question. It's disappointing to know that guys like you decide to
put down fellow programmers rather than simply not reply or take the 2
minutes to point someone in the right direction.

Doug

--- In Crestron@..., Phil Bridges <gravityhammer@...> wrote:

Are you saying that people that have only done residential systems
shouldn't be certified?


On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 8:01 PM, Pat B <PATB93@...> wrote:

**


Doug - please take what I say in the most helpful manner. Definitely

not

trying to be rude, but trying to make sure that "being certified" still
carries weight and has some meaning.

There was one thing you said that really stood out.


"I've never done a roomview system before"

Roomview is a staple of commercial programming. IMO, "never done

roomview"

= shouldn't be able to be certified whether a test is passed or not.

Go out and do a roomview system. Figure out how it works. If you had

done

a roomview system the answer to this question would be trivial. Then

come

back next year and try for the certification.

Thanks,

Patrick


--- In Crestron@..., "doug4684" <doug@> wrote:

Hi everyone,

I'm working on the new certification test and basically one of the

programs you have to be able to message back and forth from a V12
touchpanel to the helpdesk. I'm just wondering if anyone has any

experience

integrating this in a touchpanel. I'm not quite sure where to start.

I've

never done a roomview system before. Is that functionality built into

the

roomview software/module.

If someone could point me in the right direction to get started, it

would be a big help. I need to learn this stuff so I'm not looking for

a

completed program, just some general help/tips to get started.

Thanks!

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-----Original Message-----
From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On Behalf Of Geoffrey Reynolds
Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2013 9:39 PM
To: Crestron@...
Subject: [Crestron] Re: Certification Test - Messaging from Touchpanel

Personal attacks are not allowed on this forum. Attack the post, NOT the
poster.

Patrick - there's no reason to assume that everyone posting here works on
commercial projects. There are a lot of residential guys here too.

Geoff (donning his moderator hat)

On Sunday, May 12, 2013, doug4684 wrote:

**


Patrick,

Take what I am about to say in the most helpful manner possible - you're
an ass and what you wrote was in fact very rude.

I had a long response written explaining that I'm a resi guy and that I'm
learning Roomview strictly for the certification exam, blah blah blah, but
I decided it wasn't worth my time to reply to your pretentious response to
my simple question. It's disappointing to know that guys like you decide to
put down fellow programmers rather than simply not reply or take the 2
minutes to point someone in the right direction.

Doug

--- In Crestron@..., Phil Bridges <gravityhammer@...> wrote:

Are you saying that people that have only done residential systems
shouldn't be certified?


On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 8:01 PM, Pat B <PATB93@...> wrote:

**


Doug - please take what I say in the most helpful manner. Definitely

not

trying to be rude, but trying to make sure that "being certified" still
carries weight and has some meaning.

There was one thing you said that really stood out.


"I've never done a roomview system before"

Roomview is a staple of commercial programming. IMO, "never done

roomview"

= shouldn't be able to be certified whether a test is passed or not.

Go out and do a roomview system. Figure out how it works. If you had

done

a roomview system the answer to this question would be trivial. Then

come

back next year and try for the certification.

Thanks,

Patrick


--- In Crestron@..., "doug4684" <doug@> wrote:

Hi everyone,

I'm working on the new certification test and basically one of the

programs you have to be able to message back and forth from a V12
touchpanel to the helpdesk. I'm just wondering if anyone has any

experience

integrating this in a touchpanel. I'm not quite sure where to start.

I've

never done a roomview system before. Is that functionality built into

the

roomview software/module.

If someone could point me in the right direction to get started, it

would be a big help. I need to learn this stuff so I'm not looking for

a

completed program, just some general help/tips to get started.

Thanks!

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--- In Crestron@..., Phil Bridges <gravityhammer@...> wrote:

Are you saying that people that have only done residential systems
shouldn't be certified?


On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 8:01 PM, Pat B <PATB93@...> wrote:

**


Doug - please take what I say in the most helpful manner. Definitely not
trying to be rude, but trying to make sure that "being certified" still
carries weight and has some meaning.

There was one thing you said that really stood out.


"I've never done a roomview system before"

Roomview is a staple of commercial programming. IMO, "never done roomview"
= shouldn't be able to be certified whether a test is passed or not.

Go out and do a roomview system. Figure out how it works. If you had done
a roomview system the answer to this question would be trivial. Then come
back next year and try for the certification.

Thanks,

Patrick


--- In Crestron@..., "doug4684" <doug@> wrote:

Hi everyone,

I'm working on the new certification test and basically one of the

programs you have to be able to message back and forth from a V12
touchpanel to the helpdesk. I'm just wondering if anyone has any experience
integrating this in a touchpanel. I'm not quite sure where to start. I've
never done a roomview system before. Is that functionality built into the
roomview software/module.

If someone could point me in the right direction to get started, it

would be a big help. I need to learn this stuff so I'm not looking for a
completed program, just some general help/tips to get started.

Thanks!

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-----Original Message-----
From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On Behalf Of Jon Spackman
Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2013 8:30 PM
To: Crestron@...
Subject: [Crestron] Re: 2-series stopprog causing watchdog reboot?

I have been running 4.7.5 beta on my secondary PRO2 for a long time with no issues. Try that beta version and see if it helps. I needed it to fix an issue with a cenrfgwex gateway that made presses take like 8 seconds to respond on mlx3. The upgrade from 4.7.4 to 4.7.5 fixed that.

Sent from my pocket computer

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On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 8:01 PM, Pat B <PATB93@...> wrote:

**


Doug - please take what I say in the most helpful manner. Definitely not
trying to be rude, but trying to make sure that "being certified" still
carries weight and has some meaning.

There was one thing you said that really stood out.


"I've never done a roomview system before"

Roomview is a staple of commercial programming. IMO, "never done roomview"
= shouldn't be able to be certified whether a test is passed or not.

Go out and do a roomview system. Figure out how it works. If you had done
a roomview system the answer to this question would be trivial. Then come
back next year and try for the certification.

Thanks,

Patrick


--- In Crestron@..., "doug4684" <doug@...> wrote:

Hi everyone,

I'm working on the new certification test and basically one of the

programs you have to be able to message back and forth from a V12
touchpanel to the helpdesk. I'm just wondering if anyone has any experience
integrating this in a touchpanel. I'm not quite sure where to start. I've
never done a roomview system before. Is that functionality built into the
roomview software/module.

If someone could point me in the right direction to get started, it

would be a big help. I need to learn this stuff so I'm not looking for a
completed program, just some general help/tips to get started.

Thanks!

--- In Crestron@..., "doug4684" <doug@...> wrote:

Hi everyone,

I'm working on the new certification test and basically one of the programs you have to be able to message back and forth from a V12 touchpanel to the helpdesk. I'm just wondering if anyone has any experience integrating this in a touchpanel. I'm not quite sure where to start. I've never done a roomview system before. Is that functionality built into the roomview software/module.

If someone could point me in the right direction to get started, it would be a big help. I need to learn this stuff so I'm not looking for a completed program, just some general help/tips to get started.

Thanks!

--- In Crestron@..., "Etienne" <etienne@...> wrote:

What are the alternative to Crestron for full HD distribution, when the budget is tight?

4x4, 8x8 or 16x16


tx

-----Original Message-----
From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On Behalf Of highfidelityinc
Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2013 5:33 PM
To: Crestron@...
Subject: [Crestron] Re: CHV-TSTAT force "extended" run times?

I found the heat and cool anticipators did not work on the older firmware levels. But when I switched to v2.061, they started working. I seem to recall however that they worked in reverse of what the manual said. But I have a dual fuel system so that issue may only be unique to that mode.

If the thermostat is in a bad location, you could use a remote temperature sensor. Even if you mount the sensor real close to the thermostat, you will probably observe an improvement.

The big problem with the internal sensor is the inside of the TSTAT runs so hot that it messes up the internal temperature sensor. Depending on how the air current changes when the blower turns on, it can cause the thermostat to either short cycle or run too long. The internal sensor is mounted near the bottom of the thermostat. A downward draft will cause the internal sensor to heat up while an upward draft will cause the internal sensor to cool down.

The big issue I have with v2.061 is occasionally the outdoor temperature sensor intermittently jumps up about 50 degrees and stays there until you reboot the thermostat or run the internal sensor calibration test. A different sensor behaves the same way and the problem started when I updated the firmware. Just downgrade firmware and waiting to see if the problem recurs.

Steve

--- In Crestron@..., Lincoln King-Cliby <lincoln@...> wrote:

Thanks -- apparently I need to refresh my memory of the "Anticipator"'s function -- Cool was at 6 [though I swear, other than FW updates I haven't touched the state since it was installed.

I knocked it down a bit and the frequency of cool calls has dropped -- but of course, today everything is overcast and relatively cool anyway so it's hard to be positive...

Lincoln

--
Lincoln King-Cliby, CTS
Sr. Systems Architect | Crestron Certified Master Programmer (Silver)
ControlWorks Consulting, LLC
Crestron Services Provider

-----Original Message-----
From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On Behalf Of Brian Gross
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2013 6:15 PM
To: Crestron@...
Subject: [Crestron] Re: CHV-TSTAT force "extended" run times?

If I recall correctly, there are heating and cooling 'anticipators' in the setup screen on the tstat. Sounds like the cooling one may be set a bit too aggressively.

--- In Crestron@..., Lincoln King-Cliby <lincoln@> wrote:

So my house has started running "cool" cycles for the year and I'm noticing that the cycle times seem much shorter and more frequently than prior years and actually if I look at the temps the temp is 1-2 degrees above the setpoint within a few seconds of the cool cycle ending. (I can't say I've ever noticed that before - but cycle times haven't bothered me before either)

The TSTAT is admittedly not in a great place -- it's where the HVAC contractor/prior owner put the old school Honeywell stat - but since all of the other walls on this floor are either exterior, a common wall with my next door neighbor, or have a fireplace/plasma on them I can't really do much better. (Also: Whomever designed the HVAC system was, IMO, smoking crack - there's only one return in the house and it's on the first floor of a 3-story townhome)

Is there any way to force the TSTAT to make the cool call longer / reduce the number of cycles? I'd much rather a longer cool cycle and have it overshoot the setpoint by a degree or five than have it firing every 10 minutes or so.

Or am I barking up the wrong tree in the first place?

--
Lincoln King-Cliby, CTS
Sr. Systems Architect | Crestron Certified Master Programmer (Silver)
ControlWorks Consulting, LLC
Crestron Services Provider

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-----Original Message-----
From: "Neil Dorin" <neildorin@...>
Sent: ?5/?12/?2013 2:34 PM
To: "Crestron@..." <Crestron@...>
Subject: Re: [Crestron] Re: Add Fonts to Core3 Project?


If you have access to labs you can activate the theme editor in Studio and its super easy to add fonts to themes.
On 2013-05-07, at 1:29 PM, Tray Schaeffer <trayschaeffer@...> wrote:

"I'm a doctor, not a bricklayer." ... I loves me some StarTrek :)

Tray

From: Chip
Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2013 2:59 PM
To: Crestron@...
Subject: [Crestron] Re: Add Fonts to Core3 Project?

"Dammit Jim, I'm a coder - not a graphic designer!"

If only I could make my company *not* sell Core 3...errr..."SMART OBJECT" panels... I so would.

- Chip

--- In mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com, "blcsnd" <joshjx@...> wrote:

But at the moment you can user the fonts provided by the themes or create a graphics for the object with the text and font you need instead.

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--- In Crestron@..., Lincoln King-Cliby <lincoln@...> wrote:

Thanks -- apparently I need to refresh my memory of the "Anticipator"'s function -- Cool was at 6 [though I swear, other than FW updates I haven't touched the state since it was installed.

I knocked it down a bit and the frequency of cool calls has dropped -- but of course, today everything is overcast and relatively cool anyway so it's hard to be positive...

Lincoln

--
Lincoln King-Cliby, CTS
Sr. Systems Architect | Crestron Certified Master Programmer (Silver)
ControlWorks Consulting, LLC
Crestron Services Provider

-----Original Message-----
From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On Behalf Of Brian Gross
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2013 6:15 PM
To: Crestron@...
Subject: [Crestron] Re: CHV-TSTAT force "extended" run times?

If I recall correctly, there are heating and cooling 'anticipators' in the setup screen on the tstat. Sounds like the cooling one may be set a bit too aggressively.

--- In Crestron@..., Lincoln King-Cliby <lincoln@> wrote:

So my house has started running "cool" cycles for the year and I'm noticing that the cycle times seem much shorter and more frequently than prior years and actually if I look at the temps the temp is 1-2 degrees above the setpoint within a few seconds of the cool cycle ending. (I can't say I've ever noticed that before - but cycle times haven't bothered me before either)

The TSTAT is admittedly not in a great place -- it's where the HVAC contractor/prior owner put the old school Honeywell stat - but since all of the other walls on this floor are either exterior, a common wall with my next door neighbor, or have a fireplace/plasma on them I can't really do much better. (Also: Whomever designed the HVAC system was, IMO, smoking crack - there's only one return in the house and it's on the first floor of a 3-story townhome)

Is there any way to force the TSTAT to make the cool call longer / reduce the number of cycles? I'd much rather a longer cool cycle and have it overshoot the setpoint by a degree or five than have it firing every 10 minutes or so.

Or am I barking up the wrong tree in the first place?

--
Lincoln King-Cliby, CTS
Sr. Systems Architect | Crestron Certified Master Programmer (Silver)
ControlWorks Consulting, LLC
Crestron Services Provider




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-----Original Message-----
From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On Behalf Of Kool-Aid Drinker
Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2013 4:47 PM
To: crestron@...
Subject: [Crestron] Re: 2-series stopprog causing watchdog reboot?

There's been a smattering of threads about the problem. The exact
conditions that produce it remain elusive.

Stopprog didn't give me many reboots, just really high utilization of
TCP_Read, UDP_Serv, LISR, and TIMER. Programs loads would fail unless
I did the same reboot/stopprog that you're doing.

Even a freshly booted processor with no program in it showed high
network-related utilization.

Apparently, there is beta 4.7 firmware that ameliorates the issue. I
can't confirm/deny its effectiveness -- I chose to roll back to 4.3.


On Sun, 12 May 2013 14:15:45 -0400, Lincoln King-Cliby
<lincoln@...> wrote:

My house is essentially running on two processors - there's a CP2E for
lighting/HVAC/security and general "supervision"- basically things I only touch once a year
or so, and a Pro2 [*wistfully* some day a Pro3] for audio/video/energy management/access
control that gets much more tweaking when I have free time.

The program isn't crazy - RealIdle is consistently >=84% and the HeapFree is generally
10-12 MB (on a 32MB processor). Program is running on CF but it would fit in internal
memory (it's more "so I don't have to wait for the COMPACT/"File System Maintenance")

What I've noticed for the past 6 months or so is that when I try loading a new program,
Toolbox fails miserably unless I stop the program first. But if I telnet to the processor
and do STOPPROG, I get exactly this far

PRO2 Control Console
Connected to Host: LJKC-PRO2
PRO2> stopprog
Stopping Program................................................................
..................

Before disappearing into the wild blue yonder... eventually the processor reboots

If I telnet to the processor while it's loading the program / running the initial solution
after rebooting and issue stopprog in the middle of that, the program stops just fine and I
cal load via Toolbox - but it's getting annoying (FYI, Progreset does gets hung/watchdogs
at the same point).

I can't recall having this issue with any of my clients' systems which is part of the
reason I'm even more perplexed/convinced that I have something lingering in a dark corner
that I need to take a flamethrower to, but the only changes in the last 6 months have been
fairly simple - move audio sources around, delete some redundant logic. I don't even think
any of the S+ has changed.

Software is current, firmware is current (4.007.0004)

It seems weird that the processor is running just fine, I only have issues trying to get it
to stop running.

Any guesses, ideas, or shots in the dark?

[Like I said, program is not huge - 4449 symbols / 7744 actual symbols / 23869 digitals /
5099 analogs / 3906 serials / 18.05 KB NVRAM / 1.56 MB Flash / 328.18 KB SIMPL+; ~30
Ethernet devices, ~49 Cresnet devices]

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On 2013-05-07, at 1:29 PM, Tray Schaeffer <trayschaeffer@...> wrote:

"I'm a doctor, not a bricklayer." ... I loves me some StarTrek :)

Tray

From: Chip
Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2013 2:59 PM
To: Crestron@...
Subject: [Crestron] Re: Add Fonts to Core3 Project?

"Dammit Jim, I'm a coder - not a graphic designer!"

If only I could make my company *not* sell Core 3...errr..."SMART OBJECT" panels... I so would.

- Chip

--- In mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com, "blcsnd" <joshjx@...> wrote:

But at the moment you can user the fonts provided by the themes or create a graphics for the object with the text and font you need instead.