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Re: Marantz SR7015


 

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Hi Chris,

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It¡¯s been a very long time since I looked at these AVRs, but I wrote my own module back in the 2010-2013 timeframe. At that point, the MVMAX response was not defined in the protocol docs but it was returned most of the time when the AVR sent an MV response. It was the volume limit set in the AVR and it did not change unless you changed the setting in the AVR. It could only be 1 of 4 values (60, 70, 80, or 99=off). I used it so that I could provide volume feedback as a percentage of the volume limit.

IIRC, the Crestron module at the time did not look specifically for MVMAX. In response processing, it checked for the MV command and then skipped response processing if the next character was an M. This prevented erroneously processing the MVMAX response.

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What is the ¡°weirdness¡± in the module¡¯s volume feedback? ?Since older modules with older AVRs ignored MVMAX, something may have changed in how the module deals with it. I have not looked at the Denon AVR-3313 v1.1 module, though I will if it is of any use to you.

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Based on what you¡¯ve seen, the AVR may not be sending the correct value back in MVMAX. Since it is off, I would have expected 99. You could try setting a limit to see if it then sends back the correct value and does that change the ¡°weirdness¡± in volume feedback. According the 7015 user manual, the volume limit can now be set to any volume between 60 and 80 or off and it appears that the value can now be 3 digits.

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I¡¯m surprised at how much I I remember about the device after a relative quick look. ?

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Dave

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of ckangis
Sent: Monday, September 5, 2022 1:55 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [crestron] Marantz SR7015

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More info...
1. Using 0-98 vs. dB levels seems to have no effect on the volume control of the unit, or the feedback received.
2. Volume feedback seems to always get the following format:? MVxx\x0DMVMAX yyz\x0D, where xx is the volume level sent (0-98) and yyz is the 'Max' volume level (2 or 3-digit)
3. The AVR 'LIMIT' volume is set to OFF, so no limit?
4. The volume feedback string with MVMAX value (the above yyz) changes with almost every volume transition, instead of being a fixed value as I would expect.
Ex. of return strings (in no particular order):
MV34\x0DMVMAX 665\x0D
MV43\x0DMVMAX 685\x0D
MV76\x0DMVMAX 865\x0D
MV76\x0DMVMAX 86\x0D
MV77\x0DMVMAX 865\x0D
MV83\x0DMVMAX 88\x0D
MV41\x0DMVMAX 67\x0D
MV40\x0DMVMAX 665\x0D? (MVMAX 665\x0D always returned when sending MV00\x0D to MV40\x0D)
MV22\x0DMVMAX 665\x0D
MV01\x0DMVMAX 665\x0D
MV00\x0DMVMAX 665\x0D
MV88\x0DMVMAX 88\x0D? ? (Always returned when sending MV80\x0D to MV99\x0D)

The MVMAX return *Seems* to be related to the volume level vs. the 'Max' level but the 'Marantz_FY21_SR8015_SR7015_PROTOCOL_V01.xls' protocol document?does not?seems to show any response that relates to MVMAX??
And it definitely messes up the Volume feedback processing from the Denon AVR-3313 v1.1 module...

For sanity, I've eliminated using the real Volume Feedback, and will ping Marantz after the holiday...
It sure seems like a Firmware issue, which may affect other installs if/when they get updated...

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