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Re: New Simpl Icons
We've had some similar experiences.
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Almost every time I commission a TSW panel at a major university I get several 'comments' about the lack of mounting security. Frankly, if I was the owner I'd be making the same comments. The light bulb icon on the TSW infuriates most (in particular, educational) clients that don't have integrated lighting. I get that Crestron wants to sell lots of lighting systems, but forcing everyone to look a lighting icon whether or not they've bought a lighting control system is a bit silly. There's nothing about any Smart Object that I've encountered, the media player excepted, that led me to suspect that I did anything but loose time by employing them. If on any particular project I am on the fence regarding time saved/lost, the first time I version up the VTP file and recompile, my mind is made up as I stare at the mass of CED files. Ever want to change the color. . .the f*^king color. . .of the active state of a button on a TSW panel? The nightmarish time vampire that is the Advanced Button is not the droid I was looking for (hint: neither is the Theme Editor). You've worked in my home state enough to understand this anecdote. . . Ever take a GUI with a bunch of buttons that turn blue when pressed to the major state university who's colors >aren't< BLUE and gold? Yah, I haven't either, and it's cost me plenty of extra effort when using the 'wonderful, new time saving Core 3 interface' to achieve that non-blue look. This after I had a Crestron RSM tell me, face to face with a the owner of a dealer sitting next to me, that 'The new Core 3 interface delivers a 40% savings in programming time, so you can charge your clients less'. And where are my manners, I haven't so much as mentioned Studio. How many years has this thing been in development, and the end result is this project-is-a-database mess? Seriously? Does anyone with any decision making power on the Studio team even a have a Facebook friend who ever got paid to program a Crestron system, let alone actually commission one for real dollars themselves? Simpl and VTP aren't exactly collaboration friendly programs, but at least they don't go out of their way to block such activity. Maybe it's this crappy Super8 hotel I'm stuck in tonight, regardless that post does as somewhat cranky. Perhaps a jog across the street to a local drinking establishment is in order. From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On Behalf Of Lincoln King-Cliby Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 8:40 PM To: 'Crestron@...' Subject: RE: [Crestron] New Simpl Icons Agree completely My $0.02 is that "in the old days" Crestron had people in the field actually programming systems -- and Crestron was a small enough company that almost everyone had a hand in everything or could reach over a cube wall and slap the person responsible if not. Crestron seems to have largely gotten away from the "we'll build the hardware AND program the system" model which means more work for us (yay!) but also means that for the most part Crestron's engineers seem to be working in a "marketing told us..." driven vacuum with the feedback loop incomplete. There are things as a programmer that drive me crazy on a daily basis, but there are also things -- as a guy who really got his start in Academic (Classroom) Technology and is still close to many professionals in that corner of our industry -- that drive me absolutely batty and I'm convinced no end user let alone programmer was asked about. The TSW-series [with the exception of the 730] stands out: - No "secure" mounting options -- want a free touchpanel? Walk buy and give it a pull. There's a decent chance the magnets won't even come with the panel. - Hard buttons that are all but useless and not changeable (I had an unbelievably long discussion a few weeks revolving around the "Light Icon" and what to do with it given the room had no lighting and users were confused by its mere presence. I think the ultimate solution was a square of electrical tape, but I could be wrong.) - Depending on who you ask (and how vehemently convinced they are that the requirement applies to touchpanels generally and if a touchpanel should be considered "signage" and subject to those regulations) there are a few ways in which the white version of the TSW panels could be considered to violate ADA guidelines. (If you ever want to see a fun conversation, grab your favorite drink and sit back while the "Director-Disabled Student and Access Services" and the "Associate University Architect/Interior Design" are at a meeting and arguing about how their standards won't let the university select the option the other is proposing...this doesn't just apply to AV. The audio in the MPS/DMPS is another example -- though efforts are being made in that direction. Lincoln -- Lincoln King-Cliby, CTS Commercial Market Director Sr. Systems Architect | Crestron Certified Master Programmer (Silver) ControlWorks Consulting, LLC Crestron Services Provider -----Original Message-----
From: Crestron@... <mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:Crestron@... <mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Steve Kaudle Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 8:09 PM To: Crestron@... <mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com> Subject: Re: [Crestron] New Simpl Icons Frankly, I think the direction they've been headed on the software front in perticular, is quite worrisome (the recent lifeline given to VTP and Simpl not withstanding). For some time I've had a suspicion that the folks in NJ have a shockingly poor understanding of what we really do on a given work day. Core3 and Studio have driven that home for me. On Tuesday, August 13, 2013, Heath Volmer wrote: **don't trust to properly serve our clients?<mailto:ted_brincka%40yahoo.com> <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'ted_brincka%40yahoo.com');>> wrote:<javascript:_e({}, 'cvml',HAHAHA!!! 'Crestron%40yahoogroups.com');>, "Chip" <cfm@...> wrote:<javascript:_e({}, 'cvml',Graphics project open. 'Crestron%40yahoogroups.com');>, Kool-Aid Drinker <herald@> wrote: ------------------------------------ * **** Check out the Files area for useful modules, documents, and drivers. A contact list of Crestron dealers and programmers can be found in the Database area. * ****Yahoo! Groups Links |
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