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Re: TPMC-4SMFD hard button feedback


 

Thanks guys thats some really helpful info J. I never knew about the
device extender option so for me its a great discovery.

Additionally its good to hear about your experiences with the TPCS-4
series. I shall keep all of this in mind while going to try it out.



Cheers,



Ihaia





*From:* Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] *On
Behalf Of *Chip
*Sent:* Tuesday, 18 September 2012 3:41 a.m.
*To:* Crestron@...
*Subject:* [Crestron] Re: TPMC-4SMFD hard button feedback






I can concur 1000% with Lincoln with regards to the TPCS-4. Same "lags
sometimes" when doing the most simplistic attempts at lighting buttons.
(Whoda thunk that???)

Likewise, yes - you can access the "multi state" buttons individually
through analogs on said device extender...

- Chip

--- In Crestron@..., Lincoln King-Cliby <lincoln@...> wrote:

The TPMC-4SM (and TPCS-4SM, not sure about the "D" version, though) do
via the System3 Reserved Joins device extender with an analog value for
each button (0 - off, 1 - green, 2 - red, IIRC)

Beware, though, I'm not sure why but changing the backlight color seems
to be a particularly intensive task, especially on the TPCS. Depending on
what else the touchpanel is doing at the moment it can range from "slight
lag" to "OMG, it's not working! <beat> Oh, wait, there it goes!"

Needless to say, I have not found acceptable results with trying to use
the backlight color as a "Yes, you pressed me!" indication. I have,
however, in a few projects used it to indicate things like audio and video
mute status. But again, be ware of the hardware limitations: I generally
prefer to make mute buttons "blink" (driven by a common 0.5s/0.5s OSC) so
they jump out at the user, this does not work well on the TP**-4SM family.

On the TPMC-4SM doing this tends to get the panel farther and farther
behind so that after a few seconds the panel is so far behind that the
observed blink rate is more like 1.0s/1.0s -- and the worst part is that it
queues them up, so the button will continue to blink well after it's no
longer being told to blink by the program.

So, in other words, don't try changing the color too frequently :)

--
Lincoln King-Cliby, CTS
Sr. Systems Architect | Crestron Certified Master Programmer (Silver)
ControlWorks Consulting, LLC
V: 440.449.1100 x1107 | F: 440.449.1106 | I:
Crestron Authorized Independent Programmer

-----Original Message-----
From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On
Behalf Of Neil Dorin
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 1:32 AM
To: Crestron@...
Subject: Re: [Crestron] TPMC-4SMFD hard button feedback

IIRC the TPMC-4SM does not support individual led feedback for hard
buttons. You can select green or red as the backlight colour and then turn
the whole backlight on/off.

-Neil Dorin

Sent from my iPad

On Sep 16, 2012, at 10:50 PM, "ihaia09" <ihaia@...> wrote:

Hi Guys,

I am having a play with our campuses first TPMC-4SMFD and have gotten
stuck on the feedback for the LED hardbuttons. I have limited experience
with Crestron touch panels as all we have on campus TPSG-TPI's with
different manufacturer touch panels so any help would be gladly appreciated.

The result I am after is to get the LED hardbuttons to illuminate
individually dependant on feedback. Currently all i'm getting is all hard
buttons illuminated constantly whilst the panel is awake :(.
I presume this can be done as it mentions in a crestron document that
the buttons can operate individually or globally. However I cannot find
where this is configured.

Additionally I have not made this a core-3ui project as I need to keep
a similar look to our existing user interfaces. Does it need to be a
core-3ui project to get the outcome I want?

Thanks in advance for any help you can offer.

Cheers,

Ihaia






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