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Re: Using iTunes Match to sync iPod when docked

 

I wanted to follow-up on this topic and share a little snag I ran into with this approach...

The CEN-IDOC or CEN-ISERVER will not "see" the music as being on the iPod until it has been downloaded.

So, after enabling iTunes Match on a clean iPod you will see the entire library show up on the iPod if you are manipulating it manually, and the songs will all have the download button next to them, as Dustin described. If you dock that iPod into the Crestron dock, and browse for music through the Crestron interface, you will not see any content available.

If you take it off the dock and start a song playing manually, and let that song download to the device, then dock it again, you will see that one song only now through the Crestron interface.

Needless to say, this is not very useful from our point of view.

If you *purchase* new music through iTunes, and have music downloads enabled on the iPod, it should actually download the new content completely and be available through the dock, but I haven't tested this myself.

I also haven't tested what happens when you have a list of songs from an album that is in the process of downloading to the device being displayed on the Crestron interface. Does it shift the lines down to make room for the new songs, or does the Crestron interface now out of sync with what's on the actual device? I guess the same is true if you start messing with playlists in iTunes, will the changes be properly displayed on the Crestron interface, or do you have to go back to the Home menu and drill in again before it sees the updated list of songs/playlists.

Oh, and one more thing I learned the hard way:

If you activate iTunes Match for an iOS device under an iTunes account, that device is locked to that iTunes Match account for 90 days. Even if you wipe the iOS device back to factory defaults, the association between the device and the iTunes Match account exists on Apple's servers still, and it won't let you log into iTunes Match with a different account.

That's the last time I use my own account for testing iTunes Match on a new iPod that was purchased for the client...

--- In Crestron@..., "Dustin" <dustin@...> wrote:

You do not have to trigger the download with the download button. When you select a song that has not yet been downloaded to an iTunes match device, it buffers slightly, then begins playing. It then downloads completely during playback and is saved on the device. Even if you skip the song, once the download starts, it will finish.

The downside of this is that in a large, manually managed music collection, the device can fill up quickly. Also, if there are lots of songs added at one time, the delay in playback and download accumulates if you get going too fast with it. If you skip thru 15 songs that are all new looking for "that one you can't remember the title of", you now have 15 downloads in progress in the background. Each one will take a little longer to start playing because the buffer speed is slower. It'll speed back up as they complete, but in a situation where you can't see the download status, it might seem like it's stuck or broken.

I use the method for myself, but haven't yet deployed it for a customer. I do have issues with match on my computers - frequently prompting me to sign out and sign back in because "match service encountered an error", however the idevices have never missed a beat.

--- In Crestron@..., Marc-Etienne Huneau <mehuneau@> wrote:

But you'd have to manually trigger the downloads.

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Le 24 f??vr. 2012 ?? 04:26, "floyd1212" <floyd1212@> a ??crit :

Yes, it is using the iCloud service, but with an iTunes Match subscription (at $25/yr) it should also sync ripped music and playlists, not just purchases. Or so I have been told.

-David

--- In Crestron@..., Neil Dorin <neildorin@> wrote:

I think you mean iCloud purchase syncing rather than iTunes Match.

I have a retired iPhone 4 that serves as my iPod in my CEN-IDOCV at home. This works perfectly for any purchases made on any of my other iCloud devices (iPhone 4, iPad 2, iTunes on PC)

-Neil Dorin

Sent from my iPad

On Feb 23, 2012, at 11:38 AM, "floyd1212" <floyd1212@> wrote:

Has anyone tried using an iPod Touch running iOS5, with the iTunes Match service turned on, with a CEN-IDOCV or CEN-ISERVER?

I'm hoping that the iPod will stay "awake" and connected over wifi to be able to have new purchases and playlists pushed automatically from iTunes, instead of relying on Crestron Sync, which is still a multi-step, user-initiated process (and buggy on a Mac).

Is there a way to make it truly automatic so that there aren't any pop-up messages the user has to click "OK" to get past, etc?

Thanks!




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