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Re: Cars for sale (Was: FYI)

 

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I mentioned the on on the left coast because it is supposed to be a barn find and might not be on the list yet.

Dan

On 7/6/2020 2:43 PM, Tom Rymes wrote:
There’s also this CitiCar in East Haven, CT, if you’re on the RH side of the country.


Some assembly required, but new motor from D&D, controller, wheels and tires, etc.

Tom?

On Jul 5, 2020, at 3:09 PM, Clarke2 via <clarke2@...> wrote:

Just an interested?lurker here. I found this listing on Facebook for a 
1981 CVI Comuta-car for sale here in Tucson.
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Dan

-- 
Dan Clarke  520-834-4176     I10 and Twin Peaks


Cars for sale (Was: FYI)

 

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There’s also this CitiCar in East Haven, CT, if you’re on the RH side of the country.


Some assembly required, but new motor from D&D, controller, wheels and tires, etc.

Tom?

On Jul 5, 2020, at 3:09 PM, Clarke2 via <clarke2@...> wrote:

Just an interested?lurker here. I found this listing on Facebook for a 
1981 CVI Comuta-car for sale here in Tucson.
?
Dan


FYI

 

Just an interested?lurker here. I found this listing on Facebook for a 
1981 CVI Comuta-car for sale here in Tucson.
?
Dan


Re: Photo Notifications

 

Look on the left side towards the bottom for 'Databases' click
Select 'Registry & Contacts' in the center - click

B


Re: Photo Notifications

 

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I don’t see it there and I can’t figure out how to upload the new PDF version I have??

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of ICS Support via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2020 10:25 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [c-car] Photo Notifications

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I think your database is already uploaded here?

B


Re: Photo Notifications

 

I think your database is already uploaded here?/g/c-car/table?id=17159

B


Re: Photo Notifications

 

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I have added the C-Car Roster by State file in 13 [ .jpg] as a Photo Album.? This has updates as of 7/1/2020.? If you see anything that needs to be corrected please let me know.? Use the C-Car Code to identify which C-Car you are referring to.? All Red Lined Data [including serial numbers] has been removed from this file.?

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??? Peter Crisitello

?????? Crisitel@...

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From: [email protected] Notification [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2020 9:40 PM
To: Peter Crisitello <crisitel@...>
Subject: [c-car] Photo Notifications

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The following photos have been uploaded to the album of the [email protected] group.

By: Peter Crisitello <crisitel@...>


The following photos have been uploaded to the album of the [email protected] group.

By: Peter Crisitello <crisitel@...>


The following photos have been uploaded to the album of the [email protected] group.

By: Peter Crisitello <crisitel@...>


The following photos have been deleted from the album of the [email protected] group.

  • C-Car Roster by Pg 11.jpg

By: Peter Crisitello <crisitel@...>


The following photos have been deleted from the album of the [email protected] group.

  • C-Car Roster by Pg 10.jpg

By: Peter Crisitello <crisitel@...>


The following photos have been deleted from the album of the [email protected] group.

  • C-Car Roster by Pg 09.jpg

By: Peter Crisitello <crisitel@...>


The following photos have been deleted from the album of the [email protected] group.

  • C-Car Roster by Pg 08.jpg

By: Peter Crisitello <crisitel@...>


The following photos have been deleted from the album of the [email protected] group.

  • C-Car Roster by Pg 07.jpg

By: Peter Crisitello <crisitel@...>


The following photos have been deleted from the album of the [email protected] group.

  • C-Car Roster by Pg 06.jpg

By: Peter Crisitello <crisitel@...>


The following photos have been deleted from the album of the [email protected] group.

  • C-Car Roster by Pg 05.jpg

By: Peter Crisitello <crisitel@...>


The following photos have been deleted from the album of the [email protected] group.

  • C-Car Roster by Pg 04.jpg

By: Peter Crisitello <crisitel@...>


The following photos have been deleted from the album of the [email protected] group.

  • C-Car Roster by Pg 03.jpg

By: Peter Crisitello <crisitel@...>



Photo US Auto Production figures 1974-76.jpg uploaded #photo-notice

[email protected] Notification
 

The following photos have been uploaded to the C-Car Roster By State album of the [email protected] group.

By: Peter Crisitello <crisitel@...>


Re: C-Car Roster Update

 

You could always post the file to the groups.io page for this list:

/g/c-car/files

Tom

On 07/01/2020 1:14 AM, Peter Crisitello wrote:
The problem is I don’t have any online location to currently post the file?!
*//**/P/*/eter /*/C/*/risitello/
Crisitel@... <mailto:Crisitel@...>
*From:*[email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Nicholas Gee via groups.io
*Sent:* Wednesday, July 01, 2020 12:12 AM
*To:* [email protected]
*Subject:* Re: [c-car] C-Car Roster Update
Do you want us all to resend our information? Do you have a link to the master list and if it is right, not have to email you.
Sent from my MetroPCS 4G LTE Android Device
-------- Original message --------
From: Peter Crisitello <crisitel@... <mailto:crisitel@...>>
Date: 6/30/20 11:47 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: [c-car] C-Car Roster Update
I am attempting to update and correct my */C-Car Master File/*. I currently have 369 EV's listed. However some of the information has not been updated in years.
This includes Citi & Comuta Car's as well as Citi & Postal Van's and any Tropica [Xebra] EV's as well.
I have a lot of *For Sale on eBay*cars that I am sure have been sold by now. Some go back to 2012!?Others i know have changed hands but do not have the specifics.
To update correctly I will use the following information you send me to check if I have your car already on file or if it is new. I will send you back what information I have on your car if it is already in my file. and you can correct or confirm if it is correct. Serial numbers and any information you don't want to be available to others, I */red Line/* and it is left off any printout.
If you can,.Send me your *name*, your C-Car *serial number*, its *year*, and its *color*. If you want to, you can include a picture.
You can email me at *crisitel[at]oit.rutgers.edu (replace the [at] with @) *or use FaceBook Messenger. At the top of the message or subject line use *C-Car Roster Update*.
You can also include the condition as coded below if you like.
**
*Condition Coding*
·*RFS *- Restored for show only.
·*DD1 *- Daily Driver,
·*DD2 *- Drivable but occasional use only.
·*PCO *- Parts Car Only
·*PR1 *- Project just starting
·*PRC *- Project near completion
·*STO *- in storage condition undetermined.
·*SD1 *- Static Display running condition
·*SD2 *- Static Display Not running.
·*SV1 *- Un restored Original Suvivor
·*???*- Questionable, status not determined.
*//**/P/*/eter /*/C/*/risitello/
Crisitel@... <mailto:Crisitel@...>


Re: C-Car Roster Update

 

hmm I guess your roster has already been imported to


On Wed, Jul 1, 2020 at 7:21 AM Barton Fisher <bartonfisher77@...> wrote:
Hi Peter

I believe?the c-car platform does provide an online?database that's not activated now, that could help create/manage your online roster.?
If you'd like to get access to this and play let me?know

Bart

On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 10:14 PM Peter Crisitello <crisitel@...> wrote:

The problem is I don’t have any online location to currently post the file?!?

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??? Peter Crisitello

????? Crisitel@...

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Nicholas Gee via
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2020 12:12 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [c-car] C-Car Roster Update

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Do you want us all to resend our information? Do you have a link to the master list and if it is right, not have to email you.?

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Sent from my MetroPCS 4G LTE Android Device

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-------- Original message --------

From: Peter Crisitello <crisitel@...>

Date: 6/30/20 11:47 PM (GMT-05:00)

Subject: [c-car] C-Car Roster Update

?

I am attempting to update and correct my C-Car Master File. I currently have 369 EV's listed. However some of the information has not been updated in years.

This includes Citi & Comuta Car's as well as Citi & Postal Van's and any Tropica [Xebra] EV's as well.

?

I have a lot of For Sale on eBay cars that I am sure have been sold by now. Some go back to 2012!?Others i know have changed hands but do not have the specifics.

?

To update correctly I will use the following information you send me to check if I have your car already on file or if it is new. I will send you back what information I have on your car if it is already in my file. and you can correct or confirm if it is correct. Serial numbers and any information you don't want to be available to others, I red Line and it is left off any printout.

?

If you can,.Send me your name, your C-Car serial number, its year, and its color. If you want to, you can include a picture.

?

You can email me at crisitel[at] (replace the [at] with @) or use FaceBook Messenger. At the top of the message or subject line use C-Car Roster Update.

You can also include the condition as coded below if you like.

?

Condition Coding

·???????? RFS - Restored for show only.

·???????? DD1 - Daily Driver,

·???????? DD2 - Drivable but occasional use only.

·???????? PCO - Parts Car Only

·???????? PR1 - Project just starting

·???????? PRC - Project near completion

·???????? STO - in storage condition undetermined.

·???????? SD1 - Static Display running condition

·???????? SD2 - Static Display Not running.

·???????? SV1 - Un restored Original Suvivor

·???????? ??? - Questionable, status not determined.

?

??? Peter Crisitello

????? ?Crisitel@...

?

?

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Re: C-Car Roster Update

 

Hi Peter

I believe?the c-car platform does provide an online?database that's not activated now, that could help create/manage your online roster.?
If you'd like to get access to this and play let me?know

Bart

On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 10:14 PM Peter Crisitello <crisitel@...> wrote:

The problem is I don’t have any online location to currently post the file?!?

?

?

??? Peter Crisitello

????? Crisitel@...

?

?

?

?

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Nicholas Gee via
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2020 12:12 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [c-car] C-Car Roster Update

?

Do you want us all to resend our information? Do you have a link to the master list and if it is right, not have to email you.?

?

?

?

?

Sent from my MetroPCS 4G LTE Android Device

?

-------- Original message --------

From: Peter Crisitello <crisitel@...>

Date: 6/30/20 11:47 PM (GMT-05:00)

Subject: [c-car] C-Car Roster Update

?

I am attempting to update and correct my C-Car Master File. I currently have 369 EV's listed. However some of the information has not been updated in years.

This includes Citi & Comuta Car's as well as Citi & Postal Van's and any Tropica [Xebra] EV's as well.

?

I have a lot of For Sale on eBay cars that I am sure have been sold by now. Some go back to 2012!?Others i know have changed hands but do not have the specifics.

?

To update correctly I will use the following information you send me to check if I have your car already on file or if it is new. I will send you back what information I have on your car if it is already in my file. and you can correct or confirm if it is correct. Serial numbers and any information you don't want to be available to others, I red Line and it is left off any printout.

?

If you can,.Send me your name, your C-Car serial number, its year, and its color. If you want to, you can include a picture.

?

You can email me at crisitel[at] (replace the [at] with @) or use FaceBook Messenger. At the top of the message or subject line use C-Car Roster Update.

You can also include the condition as coded below if you like.

?

Condition Coding

·???????? RFS - Restored for show only.

·???????? DD1 - Daily Driver,

·???????? DD2 - Drivable but occasional use only.

·???????? PCO - Parts Car Only

·???????? PR1 - Project just starting

·???????? PRC - Project near completion

·???????? STO - in storage condition undetermined.

·???????? SD1 - Static Display running condition

·???????? SD2 - Static Display Not running.

·???????? SV1 - Un restored Original Suvivor

·???????? ??? - Questionable, status not determined.

?

??? Peter Crisitello

????? ?Crisitel@...

?

?

?


Re: C-Car Roster Update

 

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The problem is I don’t have any online location to currently post the file?!?

?

?

??? Peter Crisitello

????? Crisitel@...

?

?

?

?

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Nicholas Gee via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2020 12:12 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [c-car] C-Car Roster Update

?

Do you want us all to resend our information? Do you have a link to the master list and if it is right, not have to email you.?

?

?

?

?

Sent from my MetroPCS 4G LTE Android Device

?

-------- Original message --------

From: Peter Crisitello <crisitel@...>

Date: 6/30/20 11:47 PM (GMT-05:00)

Subject: [c-car] C-Car Roster Update

?

I am attempting to update and correct my C-Car Master File. I currently have 369 EV's listed. However some of the information has not been updated in years.

This includes Citi & Comuta Car's as well as Citi & Postal Van's and any Tropica [Xebra] EV's as well.

?

I have a lot of For Sale on eBay cars that I am sure have been sold by now. Some go back to 2012!?Others i know have changed hands but do not have the specifics.

?

To update correctly I will use the following information you send me to check if I have your car already on file or if it is new. I will send you back what information I have on your car if it is already in my file. and you can correct or confirm if it is correct. Serial numbers and any information you don't want to be available to others, I red Line and it is left off any printout.

?

If you can,.Send me your name, your C-Car serial number, its year, and its color. If you want to, you can include a picture.

?

You can email me at crisitel[at]oit.rutgers.edu (replace the [at] with @) or use FaceBook Messenger. At the top of the message or subject line use C-Car Roster Update.

You can also include the condition as coded below if you like.

?

Condition Coding

·???????? RFS - Restored for show only.

·???????? DD1 - Daily Driver,

·???????? DD2 - Drivable but occasional use only.

·???????? PCO - Parts Car Only

·???????? PR1 - Project just starting

·???????? PRC - Project near completion

·???????? STO - in storage condition undetermined.

·???????? SD1 - Static Display running condition

·???????? SD2 - Static Display Not running.

·???????? SV1 - Un restored Original Suvivor

·???????? ??? - Questionable, status not determined.

?

??? Peter Crisitello

????? ?Crisitel@...

?

?

?


Re: C-Car Roster Update

 

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Do you want us all to resend our information? Do you have a link to the master list and if it is right, not have to email you.?




Sent from my MetroPCS 4G LTE Android Device

-------- Original message --------
From: Peter Crisitello <crisitel@...>
Date: 6/30/20 11:47 PM (GMT-05:00)
Subject: [c-car] C-Car Roster Update

I am attempting to update and correct my C-Car Master File. I currently have 369 EV's listed. However some of the information has not been updated in years.

This includes Citi & Comuta Car's as well as Citi & Postal Van's and any Tropica [Xebra] EV's as well.

?

I have a lot of For Sale on eBay cars that I am sure have been sold by now. Some go back to 2012!?Others i know have changed hands but do not have the specifics.

?

To update correctly I will use the following information you send me to check if I have your car already on file or if it is new. I will send you back what information I have on your car if it is already in my file. and you can correct or confirm if it is correct. Serial numbers and any information you don't want to be available to others, I red Line and it is left off any printout.

?

If you can,.Send me your name, your C-Car serial number, its year, and its color. If you want to, you can include a picture.

?

You can email me at crisitel[at]oit.rutgers.edu (replace the [at] with @) or use FaceBook Messenger. At the top of the message or subject line use C-Car Roster Update.

You can also include the condition as coded below if you like.

?

Condition Coding

·???????? RFS - Restored for show only.

·???????? DD1 - Daily Driver,

·???????? DD2 - Drivable but occasional use only.

·???????? PCO - Parts Car Only

·???????? PR1 - Project just starting

·???????? PRC - Project near completion

·???????? STO - in storage condition undetermined.

·???????? SD1 - Static Display running condition

·???????? SD2 - Static Display Not running.

·???????? SV1 - Un restored Original Suvivor

·???????? ??? - Questionable, status not determined.

?

??? Peter Crisitello

????? ?Crisitel@...

?

?

?


C-Car Roster Update

 

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I am attempting to update and correct my C-Car Master File. I currently have 369 EV's listed. However some of the information has not been updated in years.

This includes Citi & Comuta Car's as well as Citi & Postal Van's and any Tropica [Xebra] EV's as well.

?

I have a lot of For Sale on eBay cars that I am sure have been sold by now. Some go back to 2012!?Others i know have changed hands but do not have the specifics.

?

To update correctly I will use the following information you send me to check if I have your car already on file or if it is new. I will send you back what information I have on your car if it is already in my file. and you can correct or confirm if it is correct. Serial numbers and any information you don't want to be available to others, I red Line and it is left off any printout.

?

If you can,.Send me your name, your C-Car serial number, its year, and its color. If you want to, you can include a picture.

?

You can email me at crisitel[at]oit.rutgers.edu (replace the [at] with @) or use FaceBook Messenger. At the top of the message or subject line use C-Car Roster Update.

You can also include the condition as coded below if you like.

?

Condition Coding

·???????? RFS - Restored for show only.

·???????? DD1 - Daily Driver,

·???????? DD2 - Drivable but occasional use only.

·???????? PCO - Parts Car Only

·???????? PR1 - Project just starting

·???????? PRC - Project near completion

·???????? STO - in storage condition undetermined.

·???????? SD1 - Static Display running condition

·???????? SD2 - Static Display Not running.

·???????? SV1 - Un restored Original Suvivor

·???????? ??? - Questionable, status not determined.

?

??? Peter Crisitello

????? ?Crisitel@...

?

?

?


Re: Introduction and my 1975 Citicar #1522

 

A citicar of many Tom's. looks great!? I made battery hold downs from some scrap sheet and some threaded rod. My setup is very different in my later Citi though so it wouldn't probably help. Thanks for showing off some pics :)


On Tue, Jun 23, 2020, 3:12 PM Tom Rymes <tom@...> wrote:
Hi all,

Some of you may have seen me bouncing around Facebook, looking for
answers on questions I have had since purchasing my car. I'm really
happy to have found this list, though, as I much prefer a mailing list
or Web Forum to Facebook Groups when it comes to old cars.

First and foremost, here is a link to some photos (and a few ill-shot
videos) of my car (Ignore the one where I'm struggling to figure out my
battery wiring, I got it now.):

The car is in good condition, mostly original mechanically, and I am
rapidly learning about it. There's definitely a lot more for me to
learn, and I need to get some other stuff sorted out, such as the three
or so wires hanging out of the dash over the charger, etc. Also, I'm
looking for the following, if anyone has them:

1.) Dashboard: Mine has been painted and covered with Plexiglas, so I
have lost the markings for lights and such.
2.) Battery hold-downs: I don't have any hold downs for the batteries,
so they can shift about, which is Not Good?. I'm sure I could fiddle
about and come up with something that works, but it would be nice to
find original ones, assuming that they would fit my batteries.
3.) Badging: I am trying to figure out what badges my car ought to have,
as it currently has none!
4.) Charger: The car came to me with the +48V lead on the charger
attached to the -48V terminal on the battery, and the Seller (are you on
this list, Tom?) said that it wasn't working, but did hum. I have read
in the service manual that it's possible to hook up the charger with
reverse polarity and not blow a fuse, so I'm hoping no serious damage
was done to the batteries.
5.) Batteries: The batteries are under a year old, I believe, and I
moved the charger terminal so that they charge now, but I'm really not
certain how to know when they're fully charged, and whether I should
leave the charger on longer with the ammeter in the green area so they
can equalize. Individual readings on each battery show variation from
6.6 to 6.7, still, so I assume I should keep it going, but I don't want
to overcharge, either.

OK, that's a lot, I'll save my modern charger upgrade questions for
later, and I'm bound to have a lot of questions moving forward. Thanks
for reading!

Tom




Introduction and my 1975 Citicar #1522

 

Hi all,

Some of you may have seen me bouncing around Facebook, looking for answers on questions I have had since purchasing my car. I'm really happy to have found this list, though, as I much prefer a mailing list or Web Forum to Facebook Groups when it comes to old cars.

First and foremost, here is a link to some photos (and a few ill-shot videos) of my car (Ignore the one where I'm struggling to figure out my battery wiring, I got it now.):

The car is in good condition, mostly original mechanically, and I am rapidly learning about it. There's definitely a lot more for me to learn, and I need to get some other stuff sorted out, such as the three or so wires hanging out of the dash over the charger, etc. Also, I'm looking for the following, if anyone has them:

1.) Dashboard: Mine has been painted and covered with Plexiglas, so I have lost the markings for lights and such.
2.) Battery hold-downs: I don't have any hold downs for the batteries, so they can shift about, which is Not Good?. I'm sure I could fiddle about and come up with something that works, but it would be nice to find original ones, assuming that they would fit my batteries.
3.) Badging: I am trying to figure out what badges my car ought to have, as it currently has none!
4.) Charger: The car came to me with the +48V lead on the charger attached to the -48V terminal on the battery, and the Seller (are you on this list, Tom?) said that it wasn't working, but did hum. I have read in the service manual that it's possible to hook up the charger with reverse polarity and not blow a fuse, so I'm hoping no serious damage was done to the batteries.
5.) Batteries: The batteries are under a year old, I believe, and I moved the charger terminal so that they charge now, but I'm really not certain how to know when they're fully charged, and whether I should leave the charger on longer with the ammeter in the green area so they can equalize. Individual readings on each battery show variation from 6.6 to 6.7, still, so I assume I should keep it going, but I don't want to overcharge, either.

OK, that's a lot, I'll save my modern charger upgrade questions for later, and I'm bound to have a lot of questions moving forward. Thanks for reading!

Tom


Re: Thoughts on how to get a key?

 

Wow, John. Thank you!


Re: Citicar for sale in VT

 

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Ha! ?Wrong bob. Peace!

Robert M.P. Masella
Columbia, S.C, 29201

On Jun 3, 2020, at 10:20 PM, Bob Masella <bobmasella@...> wrote:

?Thanks Gail. It has 350 miles on it. Where did you see it?

Robert M.P. Masella
Columbia, S.C, 29201

On Jun 3, 2020, at 9:54 PM, Gail Lucas <gaildlucas@...> wrote:

?Hi Bob,
I noticed the subject line did not match the pictures. Your car appears to be in good condition. I hope you find a buyer who will appreciate it.
Gail

On 6/2/2020 7:31 PM, Bob Atchinson wrote:
Hi Gail,
My car for sale is a 1981 Comuta Car - always has been.? I don't know how to change the title of the thread, but probably got screwed up because I tagged onto the previous thread, which was the sale of a Citicar.
In any event, here are a few more pix.
Bob
On Tue, Jun 2, 2020 at 1:22 AM Gail Lucas <gaildlucas@... <mailto:gaildlucas@...>> wrote:
???Bob, your car is a Comutacar, not a Citicar. I have both. Comutacars
???have the batteries in the bumpers, Citicar batteries are under the seat.
???Gail
???On 5/31/2020 11:55 AM, Bob Atchinson wrote:




Re: Citicar for sale in VT

 

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Thanks Gail. It has 350 miles on it. Where did you see it?

Robert M.P. Masella
Columbia, S.C, 29201

On Jun 3, 2020, at 9:54 PM, Gail Lucas <gaildlucas@...> wrote:

?Hi Bob,
I noticed the subject line did not match the pictures. Your car appears to be in good condition. I hope you find a buyer who will appreciate it.
Gail

On 6/2/2020 7:31 PM, Bob Atchinson wrote:
Hi Gail,
My car for sale is a 1981 Comuta Car - always has been.? I don't know how to change the title of the thread, but probably got screwed up because I tagged onto the previous thread, which was the sale of a Citicar.
In any event, here are a few more pix.
Bob
On Tue, Jun 2, 2020 at 1:22 AM Gail Lucas <gaildlucas@... <mailto:gaildlucas@...>> wrote:
???Bob, your car is a Comutacar, not a Citicar. I have both. Comutacars
???have the batteries in the bumpers, Citicar batteries are under the seat.
???Gail
???On 5/31/2020 11:55 AM, Bob Atchinson wrote:




Re: Citicar for sale in VT

 

Hi Bob,
I noticed the subject line did not match the pictures. Your car appears to be in good condition. I hope you find a buyer who will appreciate it.
Gail

On 6/2/2020 7:31 PM, Bob Atchinson wrote:
Hi Gail,
My car for sale is a 1981 Comuta Car - always has been.? I don't know how to change the title of the thread, but probably got screwed up because I tagged onto the previous thread, which was the sale of a Citicar.
In any event, here are a few more pix.
Bob
On Tue, Jun 2, 2020 at 1:22 AM Gail Lucas <gaildlucas@... <mailto:gaildlucas@...>> wrote:
Bob, your car is a Comutacar, not a Citicar. I have both. Comutacars
have the batteries in the bumpers, Citicar batteries are under the seat.
Gail
On 5/31/2020 11:55 AM, Bob Atchinson wrote: