Re: Anyone have a copy of "The Lost Cord" by Barbara E Taylor?
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On Jan 18, 2025, at 3:28?PM, Richard Oleson via groups.io <rick.oleson@...> wrote:
? I think I’ve figured it out: ?apparently, Bella Erakko IS Barbara Taylor.? She also has books under the name Barbara Erakko-Taylor.
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On Sat, Jan 18, 2025 at 10:10?AM Neil via <1950specialdeluxe= [email protected]> wrote: I have both books as well. I don’t see a lot of differences either except my original is signed. I cannot locate how or why it was redone. I do know it was mentioned on her about copyright and stuff and then this version appeared. I agree it is good to have it out there, but I am confused about how. On Jan 17, 2025, at 10:57?PM, Richard Oleson via <rick.oleson=[email protected]> wrote:
? I’ve just finished reading The Lost Cord by Bella Erakko.? Does anyone know the relationship between this book and the one by Barbara Taylor?? The titles and subtitles are identical. The Erakko book is copyright 2023, but 99.999% of it appears to have been written before 1995.? The information on Bob Beaumont and the CitiCar is excellent, but you have to look past a lot of typos and that sort of thing.? Most important though, the book is available.
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Re: Anyone have a copy of "The Lost Cord" by Barbara E Taylor?
I think I’ve figured it out: ?apparently, Bella Erakko IS Barbara Taylor.? She also has books under the name Barbara Erakko-Taylor.
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“Always remember that you are absolutely unique. Just like everyone else.”
- Margaret Mead
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Visit my very own website at
.... or just photos and stuff at?
On Sat, Jan 18, 2025 at 10:10?AM Neil via <1950specialdeluxe= [email protected]> wrote: I have both books as well. I don’t see a lot of differences either except my original is signed. I cannot locate how or why it was redone. I do know it was mentioned on her about copyright and stuff and then this version appeared. I agree it is good to have it out there, but I am confused about how. On Jan 17, 2025, at 10:57?PM, Richard Oleson via <rick.oleson=[email protected]> wrote:
? I’ve just finished reading The Lost Cord by Bella Erakko.? Does anyone know the relationship between this book and the one by Barbara Taylor?? The titles and subtitles are identical. The Erakko book is copyright 2023, but 99.999% of it appears to have been written before 1995.? The information on Bob Beaumont and the CitiCar is excellent, but you have to look past a lot of typos and that sort of thing.? Most important though, the book is available.
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Re: Anyone have a copy of "The Lost Cord" by Barbara E Taylor?
All:
Before his passing CB and I had talked with Barbara and Dina
about re printing the book. At that time Barbara was thinking
about it.
As for this current edition available online may have something
to do with work in the? public domain in the United
States of America, and possibly other nations. Within the United
States, you may freely copy and distribute work, as no entity
(individual or corporate) has a copyright on the body of the work.
Peter
Crisitello
181
Villa Place
Rahway,
NJ?? 07065 -2831
Home:?
(732)574-0776??
[no text, Land Line]
Crisitel@...?
T442163@...
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On 1/18/2025 10:10 AM, Neil via
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I have both books as well.
I don’t see a lot of differences either except my original is
signed.
I cannot locate how or why it was redone.
I do know it was mentioned on her about copyright and stuff
and then this version appeared.
I agree it is good to have it out there, but I am confused
about how.
?
I’ve just finished reading The Lost Cord by Bella
Erakko. ?Does anyone know the relationship between this
book and the one by Barbara Taylor? ?The titles and
subtitles are identical. The Erakko book is copyright
2023, but 99.999% of it appears to have been written
before 1995. ?The information on Bob Beaumont and the
CitiCar is excellent, but you have to look past a lot of
typos and that sort of thing. ?Most important though, the
book is available.
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Re: Anyone have a copy of "The Lost Cord" by Barbara E Taylor?
I have both books as well. I don’t see a lot of differences either except my original is signed. I cannot locate how or why it was redone. I do know it was mentioned on her about copyright and stuff and then this version appeared. I agree it is good to have it out there, but I am confused about how.
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On Jan 17, 2025, at 10:57?PM, Richard Oleson via groups.io <rick.oleson@...> wrote:
? I’ve just finished reading The Lost Cord by Bella Erakko. ?Does anyone know the relationship between this book and the one by Barbara Taylor? ?The titles and subtitles are identical. The Erakko book is copyright 2023, but 99.999% of it appears to have been written before 1995. ?The information on Bob Beaumont and the CitiCar is excellent, but you have to look past a lot of typos and that sort of thing. ?Most important though, the book is available.
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Re: Anyone have a copy of "The Lost Cord" by Barbara E Taylor?
I’ve just finished reading The Lost Cord by Bella Erakko. ?Does anyone know the relationship between this book and the one by Barbara Taylor? ?The titles and subtitles are identical. The Erakko book is copyright 2023, but 99.999% of it appears to have been written before 1995. ?The information on Bob Beaumont and the CitiCar is excellent, but you have to look past a lot of typos and that sort of thing. ?Most important though, the book is available.
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Re: C-Car serial number decoding
Your violin is very small...? I have personally seen recommendations?from Peter referring?people to your website over the years.? ?
This is not the first time I have had this problem. Peter has
stolen entire pages from my website in the past, removed my name
and put HIS NAME in it's place.?
So think about this, what you are saying is that it is okay to
"collect" the work/information/pictures from people who have it
nicely posted on their website, remove their names and
redistribute it under the name of keeping it accessible? But, we
can't keep the credit for the people who originally made that
information accessible? I guess that part is to MUCH work to ask?
? Well.. his "hard work and dedication" has shot CCar owners in
the foot my friend, for I will not publish more.
BTW, He tried to dig the good name of CB through the mud. CB was
a dear friend of mine and I truly miss him. CB never missed a
chance to give credit when credit was due.
I will not respond further to people encouraging Peter's theft, I
am here only to protect my work. If you appreciate "hard work"
thieving than I know my words are wasted. This is not about credit
or ego, I have kept parts available for these cars for 30+ years.
To do that, I have to keep people coming to my website. If I don't
sell parts every now and then then I can't keep these parts
available for you. Thank the folks who take credit for what isn't
there's? when those parts aren't available any more. If you
appreciated the hard work making the original content, keeping the
parts available, and providing technical support then you wouldn't
appreciate his "hard work" removing proper credit.
On 12/17/2024 9:27 AM, Tim Daley via
wrote:
Peter is simply working to keep the available
information organized and accessible for others who may need it.
Over the years, much of this information has been lost, and
Peter has played a key role in retrieving and bringing it back
to the forefront for others to benefit from. It’s clear from his
posts over the years that Peter does not seek to 'steal' or
claim credit for this work.? Many of us appreciate his hard work
and dedication, keeping the CitiCar alive.??
I see Peter still hasn't learned what plagiarism is.
Still stealing my photos and information. I always
wonder how he would feel if he had to work for a
living just to have his work stolen without credit.
Yes, Peter, taking our work and passing it as your own
is makes you a SAD person (even when you change the
fonts).
In case you folks wonder why I (and several other
people) quit helping with these cars, you can thank
people like Peter.
On 12/14/2024 11:05 PM, Peter Crisitello via
wrote:
All:
Attached
are two of my updated files [in .jpg image
format] to help understand your C-Car serial
number for both the?CitiCar?and?Commuta-Car.
The?Commuta-Car?breakdown
should work just as well for the?Tropica?if
you have one.
Let
me know if there is any problem in understanding
either.
?
Peter Crisitello
Home:?
(732)574-0776?? [no text,
Land Line]
Crisitel@...?
T442163@...
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Re: C-Car serial number decoding
This is not the first time I have had this problem. Peter has
stolen entire pages from my website in the past, removed my name
and put HIS NAME in it's place.?
So think about this, what you are saying is that it is okay to
"collect" the work/information/pictures from people who have it
nicely posted on their website, remove their names and
redistribute it under the name of keeping it accessible? But, we
can't keep the credit for the people who originally made that
information accessible? I guess that part is to MUCH work to ask?
? Well.. his "hard work and dedication" has shot CCar owners in
the foot my friend, for I will not publish more.
BTW, He tried to dig the good name of CB through the mud. CB was
a dear friend of mine and I truly miss him. CB never missed a
chance to give credit when credit was due.
I will not respond further to people encouraging Peter's theft, I
am here only to protect my work. If you appreciate "hard work"
thieving than I know my words are wasted. This is not about credit
or ego, I have kept parts available for these cars for 30+ years.
To do that, I have to keep people coming to my website. If I don't
sell parts every now and then then I can't keep these parts
available for you. Thank the folks who take credit for what isn't
there's? when those parts aren't available any more. If you
appreciated the hard work making the original content, keeping the
parts available, and providing technical support then you wouldn't
appreciate his "hard work" removing proper credit.
On 12/17/2024 9:27 AM, Tim Daley via
groups.io wrote:
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Peter is simply working to keep the available
information organized and accessible for others who may need it.
Over the years, much of this information has been lost, and
Peter has played a key role in retrieving and bringing it back
to the forefront for others to benefit from. It’s clear from his
posts over the years that Peter does not seek to 'steal' or
claim credit for this work.? Many of us appreciate his hard work
and dedication, keeping the CitiCar alive.??
I see Peter still hasn't learned what plagiarism is.
Still stealing my photos and information. I always
wonder how he would feel if he had to work for a
living just to have his work stolen without credit.
Yes, Peter, taking our work and passing it as your own
is makes you a SAD person (even when you change the
fonts).
In case you folks wonder why I (and several other
people) quit helping with these cars, you can thank
people like Peter.
On 12/14/2024 11:05 PM, Peter Crisitello via
wrote:
All:
Attached
are two of my updated files [in .jpg image
format] to help understand your C-Car serial
number for both the?CitiCar?and?Commuta-Car.
The?Commuta-Car?breakdown
should work just as well for the?Tropica?if
you have one.
Let
me know if there is any problem in understanding
either.
?
Peter Crisitello
Home:?
(732)574-0776?? [no text,
Land Line]
Crisitel@...?
T442163@...
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Re: C-Car serial number decoding
Peter is simply working to keep the available information organized and accessible for others who may need it. Over the years, much of this information has been lost, and Peter has played a key role in retrieving and bringing it back to the forefront for others to benefit from. It’s clear from his posts over the years that Peter does not seek to 'steal' or claim credit for this work.? Many of us appreciate his hard work and dedication, keeping the CitiCar alive.??
I see Peter still hasn't learned what plagiarism is. Still
stealing my photos and information. I always wonder how he would
feel if he had to work for a living just to have his work stolen
without credit. Yes, Peter, taking our work and passing it as your
own is makes you a SAD person (even when you change the fonts).
In case you folks wonder why I (and several other people) quit
helping with these cars, you can thank people like Peter.
On 12/14/2024 11:05 PM, Peter
Crisitello via wrote:
All:
Attached
are two of my updated files [in .jpg image format] to help
understand your C-Car serial number for both the?CitiCar?and?Commuta-Car.
The?Commuta-Car?breakdown
should work just as well for the?Tropica?if
you have one.
Let
me know if there is any problem in understanding either.
?
Peter
Crisitello
Home:?
(732)574-0776??
[no text, Land Line]
Crisitel@...?
T442163@...
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Re: C-Car serial number decoding
Glenn / All:
I am sorry you feel that way, and I seem to have you and others
misunderstanding what I do?!? At no point do I claim total
responsibility, control, or authority for any information I
assemble and post? I simply format information from all, in usable
formats posted for any and everyone to use freely. If you have
questions or comments, I readily answer or refer to who may be in
a better position to help. ? Glenn and his father I have and
always will respect as being far superior in mechanical issues and
the research they have done to help keep our EV's on the road.
Yes, I started with what you, [Glen] originally did as well as
what others over the years of their work and research have added.?
My own research may not be as extensive but I pull from what many
of all you the owners have found out or questioned as well.?
Before he passed away, CB and I were cooperating on assembling as
much information as possible to help us all in the future.? I am
sorry to say that most of that work was lost in the cloud when he
died. ?
I am not out to step on anyone's toes and appreciate the close
cooperation we have all had, and I hope to continue to have in the
future. ?
Peter
Crisitello
181
Villa Place
Rahway,
NJ?? 07065 -2831
Home:?
(732)574-0776??
[no text, Land Line]
Crisitel@...?
T442163@...
On 12/16/2024 12:26 PM, Glen Stevens
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I see Peter still hasn't learned what plagiarism is. Still
stealing my photos and information. I always wonder how he would
feel if he had to work for a living just to have his work stolen
without credit. Yes, Peter, taking our work and passing it as
your own is makes you a SAD person (even when you change the
fonts).
In case you folks wonder why I (and several other people) quit
helping with these cars, you can thank people like Peter.
On 12/14/2024 11:05 PM, Peter
Crisitello via groups.io wrote:
All:
Attached
are two of my updated files [in .jpg image format] to help
understand your C-Car serial number for both the?CitiCar?and?Commuta-Car.
The?Commuta-Car?breakdown
should work just as well for the?Tropica?if
you have one.
Let
me know if there is any problem in understanding either.
?
Peter
Crisitello
181
Villa Place
Rahway,
NJ?? 07065 -2831
Home:?
(732)574-0776?? [no
text, Land Line]
Crisitel@...?
T442163@...
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Re: C-Car serial number decoding
I see Peter still hasn't learned what plagiarism is. Still
stealing my photos and information. I always wonder how he would
feel if he had to work for a living just to have his work stolen
without credit. Yes, Peter, taking our work and passing it as your
own is makes you a SAD person (even when you change the fonts).
In case you folks wonder why I (and several other people) quit
helping with these cars, you can thank people like Peter.
On 12/14/2024 11:05 PM, Peter
Crisitello via groups.io wrote:
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All:
Attached
are two of my updated files [in .jpg image format] to help
understand your C-Car serial number for both the?CitiCar?and?Commuta-Car.
The?Commuta-Car?breakdown
should work just as well for the?Tropica?if
you have one.
Let
me know if there is any problem in understanding either.
?
Peter
Crisitello
181
Villa Place
Rahway,
NJ?? 07065 -2831
Home:?
(732)574-0776??
[no text, Land Line]
Crisitel@...?
T442163@...
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C-Car serial number decoding
All:
Attached
are two of my updated files [in .jpg image format] to help
understand your C-Car serial number for both the?CitiCar?and?Commuta-Car.
The?Commuta-Car?breakdown
should work just as well for the?Tropica?if
you have one.
Let
me know if there is any problem in understanding either.
?
Peter
Crisitello
181
Villa Place
Rahway,
NJ?? 07065 -2831
Home:?
(732)574-0776??
[no text, Land Line]
Crisitel@...?
T442163@...
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Hi Peter, I hope you are doing great.? You probably don't remember us, we met you years ago in Sebring at a Citi Car meet.? Anyway, we want to sell our 1976 Citi Car.? Can you PLEASE direct me in where I can sell it.? Thanks in advance for your help!? Good luck selling your parts too!
Cindy & Dan Palmer cell:? 989-598-6045
On Saturday, July 6, 2024 at 12:25:55 AM EDT, Peter Crisitello via groups.io <t442163@...> wrote:
All:
Due to circumstances beyond my control, I am forced once again to
move all the remaining C-Car Body Panels down in Florida.? While I
did not intend to make this a money winning venture, I cannot
continue to drain my limited retirement resources to keep saving
this albatross.? I have kept the prices at an unreasonable low
level for way too long.? After this move I will have to at least
double the prices on everything.? Attached should be a PDF with
current prices on the most prolific.? This will be good for PU in
Orlando this week only.? You can contact Larry directly at 407 256 6244 .
However, if on the off chance someone here has the room, and is interested in All the Citi/Commuta/Postal Body Panels as a whole please contact me as listed below. Everything should easily fit into one PackRat 12 foot container. I am offering everything currently in Florida for the unreasonably low price of $1,000.00 [cash or check]. It all must be moved no later than this week. I should be in Orlando by Tuesday [7/9/2024], I can even help with the move if interested.
Peter
Crisitello
181
Villa Place
Rahway,
NJ?? 07065 -2831
Home:?
(732)574-0776??
[no text, Land Line]
Crisitel@...?
T442163@...
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Re: Anyone have a copy of "The Lost Cord" by Barbara E Taylor?
I have a “Signed” copy of the original. (Paid too much ?)
I ordered a copy of the reprint, will compare the 2.
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Re: Anyone have a copy of "The Lost Cord" by Barbara E Taylor?
It is being reprinted and is available on Amazon. I bought a copy a while ago.
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Harry
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Re: Anyone have a copy of "The Lost Cord" by Barbara E Taylor?
On 4 Aug 2024 at 7:44, jerry freedomev via groups.io wrote: As long as not making a profit, copying it to a pdf is cool. ok to make one but not share it. get it here ebook/dp/B0CCXMQ6MM
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Re: Anyone have a copy of "The Lost Cord" by Barbara E Taylor?
Hi Benchoff and All,
? One might ask on the EVDL list if they have 1 or more.? I'd like to at least read a copy/pdf as my good friend Bob Rice was Bob's right hand man.? ?
As long as not making a profit, copying it to a pdf is cool.
Jerry
On Sunday, August 4, 2024 at 12:51:41 AM EDT, benchoff@... <benchoff@...> wrote:
I've searched, and most of the results are 12-year-old posts in this group telling me that Bob Beaumont's daughter has a few copies left. No, she doesn't. I found Barbara Taylor on Facebook, and no response.
Basically I'm looking for someone with either a PDF copy, or someone who would sell a copy to me.
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Re: Anyone have a copy of "The Lost Cord" by Barbara E Taylor?
The last time I talked with Barbara Taylor, quite a while back
she was looking into authorizing a PDF version, but it did not
come to pass, as far as I know.? My recent check of old book
stores and local Library sales has not shown up any copies for
several years, now.?
Peter
Crisitello
181
Villa Place
Rahway,
NJ?? 07065 -2831
Home:?
(732)574-0776??
[no text, Land Line]
Crisitel@...?
T442163@...
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I've searched, and most of the results are 12-year-old posts
in this group telling me that Bob Beaumont's daughter has a few
copies left. No, she doesn't. I found Barbara Taylor on
Facebook, and no response.
Basically I'm looking for someone with either a PDF copy, or
someone who would sell a copy to me.
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Anyone have a copy of "The Lost Cord" by Barbara E Taylor?
I've searched, and most of the results are 12-year-old posts in this group telling me that Bob Beaumont's daughter has a few copies left. No, she doesn't. I found Barbara Taylor on Facebook, and no response.
Basically I'm looking for someone with either a PDF copy, or someone who would sell a copy to me.
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All:
Due to circumstances beyond my control, I am forced once again to
move all the remaining C-Car Body Panels down in Florida.? While I
did not intend to make this a money winning venture, I cannot
continue to drain my limited retirement resources to keep saving
this albatross.? I have kept the prices at an unreasonable low
level for way too long.? After this move I will have to at least
double the prices on everything.? Attached should be a PDF with
current prices on the most prolific.? This will be good for PU in
Orlando this week only.? You can contact Larry directly at 407 256 6244 .
However, if on the off chance someone here has the room, and is interested in All the Citi/Commuta/Postal Body Panels as a whole please contact me as listed below. Everything should easily fit into one PackRat 12 foot container. I am offering everything currently in Florida for the unreasonably low price of $1,000.00 [cash or check]. It all must be moved no later than this week. I should be in Orlando by Tuesday [7/9/2024], I can even help with the move if interested.
Peter
Crisitello
181
Villa Place
Rahway,
NJ?? 07065 -2831
Home:?
(732)574-0776??
[no text, Land Line]
Crisitel@...?
T442163@...
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Sorry.? I just got the pictures.??
Hi, I'm from Delaware OH.? I believe we met? ? I believe we met on the first CitiCar meetup.? ?My dad is looking for a CitiCar.? ? Any chance you can send pictures??
On Wed, Jun 14, 2023, 7:37 PM Donald Dailey < dodailey@...> wrote:
I would like to get 3000 for each but I am negotiable. All are complete cars, the blue and the red have had the brakes done and the blue one was driving when stored in 2018. ? How much are you looking to get for them, and how complete are they? On Wed, Jun 14, 2023, 7:32 PM Donald Dailey < dodailey@...> wrote: All are located in Mansfield Ohio. The blue one does not have a title.
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Richard Oleson
Peter Crisitello
Neil
Harry Armstrong