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Re: Instrument Panel Wiring Diagram

 

Thanks for the manual.
I had a quick look thru it and I think it will answer my questions.
Neil


Re: Instrument Panel Wiring Diagram

 

Attached is the complete service manual


Re: Instrument Panel Wiring Diagram

 

I know this topic is 9 years old, but my problem is not new.
Do these drawings exist, and if they do can someone point me in the right direction?

Thanks ?again for the help.


Re: Citicar Body Parts

 

CiAO

On Saturday, June 4, 2022, 10:04:22 AM MST, Lonnie Caldwell via groups.io <lon.caldwell@...> wrote:
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On Saturday, June 4, 2022, 12:00 PM, Barton Fisher <bartonfisher77@...> wrote:

If you get a chance, post some pictures of your can

Bart


Re: Citicar Body Parts

Lonnie Caldwell
 












On Saturday, June 4, 2022, 12:00 PM, Barton Fisher <bartonfisher77@...> wrote:

If you get a chance, post some pictures of your can

Bart


Re: Citicar Body Parts

 

If you get a chance, post some pictures of your can

Bart


Citicar Body Parts

Lonnie Caldwell
 

I have a complete Citicar body for sale in the Kansas City area. Zip code is 64083. Anyone interested?


Re: Running a 36V 3.5HP motor @ 48V

 

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In my conversations with Bob back then, he commented more than once that the only change that was made with the conversion from 36 V to 48 V, was to add two extra batteries.

It all comes down to how they were fit in under the seat.?

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Peter Crisitello

181 Villa Place Rahway, NJ?? 07065 -2831
Home:? (732)574-0776?? [no text]
T442163@...

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From: [email protected] On Behalf Of James DeVito
Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2022 8:43 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [c-car] Running a 36V 3.5HP motor @ 48V

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Gotcha. Yea it seems like 48V is a-ok!

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On May 28, 2022, 2:20 PM -0400, Barton Fisher <bartonfisher77@...>, wrote:

I think it would ok - motor may get HOT - There should be a fan to cool motor and a light on the dash
Send a picture of the battery compartment maybe there is enough room for 48v.


Re: Running a 36V 3.5HP motor @ 48V

 

Gotcha. Yea it seems like 48V is a-ok!

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On May 28, 2022, 2:20 PM -0400, Barton Fisher <bartonfisher77@...>, wrote:

I think it would ok - motor may get HOT - There should be a fan to cool motor and a light on the dash
Send a picture of the battery compartment maybe there is enough room for 48v.


Re: Lithium deals, Running a 36V 3.5HP motor @ 48V

 

Hi James and All,
? ? ? ? It's fine and comes from the factory that way. I've run my 36vdc nom at 80vdc.? DC Motor voltages are suggestions.? ?Just keep amps and RPM in spec.
?If you haven't bought the batteries yet think about going lithium at not much more cost depending which lead and which EV modules, could cost the same..
Battery Hookup has some good deals that come and go at about $125/kwh lately.? A pair of 28vdc modules would match the controller and charger fairly well.??
Jerry



On Saturday, May 28, 2022, 08:46:15 AM PDT, James DeVito <hi.im.vito@...> wrote:


Hi All-?

Currently working on a Citicar that has a 36V motor but a 48V charger. Were these models actually driven with 48V to the 36V motor? And I suppose that means I should be following the "48V model" diagrams from this service manual??

The car didn't come with batteries so I cannot tell from that unfortunately.

See below for photos of the charger & motor plates:



Thank you!?

James

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Re: Running a 36V 3.5HP motor @ 48V

 

8 6 volt batteries


On Sat, May 28, 2022 at 11:08 AM, Barton Fisher
<bartonfisher77@...> wrote:
How many batteries are installed?


Re: Running a 36V 3.5HP motor @ 48V

 
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I think it would be ok - motor may get HOT - There should be a fan to cool motor and a light on the dash
Send a picture of the battery compartment maybe there is enough room for 48v.


Re: Running a 36V 3.5HP motor @ 48V

 

@Barton there were no batteries in the car when I bought it.?

Ok so what I’m hearing then is that it is OK to use 48V batteries even though it is a 36V motor, and it actually even came from the factory that way. Thanks all.?

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On May 28, 2022, 12:08 PM -0400, Barton Fisher <bartonfisher77@...>, wrote:

How many batteries are installed?


Re: Running a 36V 3.5HP motor @ 48V

 

How many batteries are installed?


Re: Running a 36V 3.5HP motor @ 48V

 

Early ones were 36 volt and were changed by factory to 48 volt because of being too slow run as 48 volt


On Sat, May 28, 2022 at 10:46 AM, James DeVito
<hi.im.vito@...> wrote:
Hi All-?

Currently working on a Citicar that has a 36V motor but a 48V charger. Were these models actually driven with 48V to the 36V motor? And I suppose that means I should be following the "48V model" diagrams from this service manual??

The car didn't come with batteries so I cannot tell from that unfortunately.

See below for photos of the charger & motor plates:



Thank you!?

James

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Running a 36V 3.5HP motor @ 48V

 

Hi All-?

Currently working on a Citicar that has a 36V motor but a 48V charger. Were these models actually driven with 48V to the 36V motor? And I suppose that means I should be following the "48V model" diagrams from this service manual??

The car didn't come with batteries so I cannot tell from that unfortunately.

See below for photos of the charger & motor plates:



Thank you!?

James

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Re: 1980 ComutaCar with very little torque... help?

 

I'll bet that the almost foil-thin copper bus bar brush interconnect has burned out, delivering current to just 1 set of brushes and not two.

I'd also highly suspect that controller. Curtis controllers are pretty much junk. They use multiple small power transistors so there can be a partial failure and it continue to operate. I tossed mine in the garbage and replaced it with an Alltrax 72500 controller with a controller bypass contactor.

John

On 5/8/22 22:02, benchoff@... wrote:
I'm restoring a 1980 Comutacar, and I'm stuck on a problem: While the car can power itself forwards and backwards in my garage, it has very, very little torque. It can not make it up my driveway, which is about 2" of elevation over 15 feet. When testing the driveway climb, the motor pulls about 350A from the controller (with a 48V battery)


Re: 1980 ComutaCar with very little torque... help?

 

Since this car has a grounded frame, I'd be suspicious of the brushes. When I got mine, the cheap, thin phenolic the brush mounts were fastened to was broken and one brush was touching the frame.

You can see here what I did to my motor to make it ready for 72 volts/ 1000 amps.

On 5/9/22 02:56, cheesewedge@... wrote:
are you reading volts at the motor? what?
high current & low torque, sounds like weak motor field, shorted?


Re: Citicar sighting on TV.

 

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I try to copy to as many as possible posts to all of them.? There are also some EV sites that I copy to as well.

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Peter Crisitello

181 Villa Place Rahway, NJ?? 07065 -2831
Home:? (732)574-0776?? [no text]
T442163@...

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From: [email protected] On Behalf Of Tom Rymes
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2022 10:47 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [c-car] Citicar sighting on TV.

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There are something like four different C-car groups on FB, unfortunately. I wish we could combine them:

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C-cars

Florida CitiCar EV Club

Vanguard CitiCar Registry

EV Cruis’n USA

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As for the car you describe, it sounds like the one in Kingman, AZ that’s parked in front of Mr. D’z Route 66 Diner.

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It’s a part of the nearby EV Museum, which seems to be part of the Arizona Route 66 Museum:

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Tom

On May 11, 2022, at 10:00 AM, BuickHowie Kubsch <howiek@...> wrote:

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Hi Kriss, you could post this on FB :?

Florida Citi-car EV Club

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On Wed, May 11, 2022, 9:06 AM kriss_davis via <kriss_davis=[email protected]> wrote:

There was a citicar shown very briefly in the CW TV show Naiomi.? It is episode 12, broadcast on the CW on May 10.? The show is available via streaming through the CW app.

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It is about 15 to 20 mins in (including commercials).? ?There is an exterior shot of a diner and there is a citicar painted in bright colors sitting in front of it.?

Kriss Davis, Normal IL.??


Re: Citicar sighting on TV.

 

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There are something like four different C-car groups on FB, unfortunately. I wish we could combine them:

C-cars
Florida CitiCar EV Club
Vanguard CitiCar Registry
EV Cruis’n USA

As for the car you describe, it sounds like the one in Kingman, AZ that’s parked in front of Mr. D’z Route 66 Diner.

https://goo.gl/maps/bYc1chHof3guKndu7

It’s a part of the nearby EV Museum, which seems to be part of the Arizona Route 66 Museum:

https://goo.gl/maps/H3fJiRyjYZbAdAuK6

Tom

On May 11, 2022, at 10:00 AM, BuickHowie Kubsch <howiek@...> wrote:

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Hi Kriss, you could post this on FB :?
Florida Citi-car EV Club

On Wed, May 11, 2022, 9:06 AM kriss_davis via <kriss_davis=[email protected]> wrote:
There was a citicar shown very briefly in the CW TV show Naiomi.? It is episode 12, broadcast on the CW on May 10.? The show is available via streaming through the CW app.

It is about 15 to 20 mins in (including commercials).? ?There is an exterior shot of a diner and there is a citicar painted in bright colors sitting in front of it.?

Kriss Davis, Normal IL.??