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To: Charles N2NOV (operator of K7EK?):
I think I am not supposed to relay @SCA messages.

73, Chuck

From: W6TJ
To: CW
Type/Status: BH
Date/Time: 02-May 18:40Z
Bid: SVND7J_W6TJ
Title: Test

R:250503/0259z @:K7EK.#NOKY.KY.USA.NOAM $:SVND7J_W6TJ
R:250502/1855z @:N2NOV.#RICH.NY.USA.NOAM $:SVND7J_W6TJ
R:250502/1847z @:KQ6UP.#SCA.CA.USA.NOAM [Grand Terrace, CA] $:SVND7J_W6TJ Z:92313
R:250502/1846Z 25205@AB6MV.#SCA.CA.USA.NOAM LinBPQ6.0.24
R:250502/1840Z @:KM6JTD.#SCA.CA.USA.NOAM #:7323 [Grand Terrace, CA]
R:250502/1840z @:W6TJ.#SCA.CA.USA.NOAM [Nowhere-City] DP6.00 $:SVND7J_W6TJ

>From w6tj%w6tj.#sca.ca.usa.noam@... Fri May? 2 22:59:36 2025
Received: from k7ek.ampr.org by k7ek.ampr.org (JNOS2.0p.6) with SMTP
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Message-Id: <SVND7J_W6TJ@...>
>From: w6tj@w6tj.#sca.ca.usa.noam
X-JNOS-User-Port: Circuit? (ARECS:N2NOV-7 N2NOV-7)? -> Sending message

>From w6tj%w6tj.#sca.ca.usa.noam@... Fri May? 2 11:47:44 2025
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>From: w6tj@w6tj.#sca.ca.usa.noam
X-JNOS-User-Port: Circuit? (MVBBS:AB6MV-1 AB6MV-1)? -> Sending message

From: W6TJ @ W6TJ.#SCA.CA.USA.NOAM (Rcara)
To:?? CW @ SCA

Test




[End of Message #36040 from W6TJ]

I have already sent a message to W6TJ that they are forwarding the @SCA
flood field outside of the intended Southern California area.

--
Charles J. Hargrove - N2NOV
NYC-ARECS/RACES Citywide Radio Officer/Skywarn Coord.

NYC-ARECS/RACES Nets 441.100/136.5 PL
ARnewsline Broadcast Mon. @ 8:00PM
NYC-ARECS Weekly Net Mon. @ 8:30PM


NY-NBEMS Net Saturdays @ 10AM & USeast-NBEMS Net Wednesdays @ 7PM
on 7.036 Mhz USB (alt 3.536)/1500 hz waterfall spot; MFSK-16 or 32

"Information is the oxygen of the modern age. It seeps through the walls topped
by barbed wire, it wafts across the electrified borders." - Ronald Reagan

"The more corrupt the state, the more it legislates." - Tacitus

"Molann an obair an fear" - Irish Saying
(The work praises the man.)

"No matter how big and powerful government gets, and the many services it
provides, it can never take the place of volunteers." - Ronald Reagan

It is the way JNOS does its rewrite. I forward CW to Charles no
matter what the @AREA is. That is because it matches CW first. This
behavior is not the same as BPQ's flood bulletin rules. It is first
match wins and I have topics before flood areas. Maybe matching areas
first is a better option. I have to consider the ramifications of
that. That is a good reason to do testing to get constructive
feedback. Snark is not really helpful.

On Sat, May 3, 2025 at 6:25?AM Charles Hargrove via groups.io
<n2nov@...> wrote:

I have already sent a message to W6TJ that they are forwarding the @SCA
flood field outside of the intended Southern California area.

On 5/3/2025 9:06 AM, Chuck Gelm wrote:

and
To: Charles N2NOV (operator of K7EK?):
I think I am not supposed to relay @SCA messages.

73, Chuck

From: W6TJ
To: CW
Type/Status: *BH*
Date/Time: 02-May 18:40Z
Bid: SVND7J_W6TJ
Title: Test

R:250503/0259z @:K7EK.#NOKY.KY.USA.NOAM $:SVND7J_W6TJ
R:250502/1855z @:N2NOV.#RICH.NY.USA.NOAM $:SVND7J_W6TJ
R:250502/1847z @:KQ6UP.#SCA.CA.USA.NOAM [Grand Terrace, CA]
$:SVND7J_W6TJ Z:92313
R:250502/1846Z 25205@AB6MV.#SCA.CA.USA.NOAM LinBPQ6.0.24
R:250502/1840Z @:KM6JTD.#SCA.CA.USA.NOAM #:7323 [Grand Terrace, CA]
R:250502/1840z @:W6TJ.#SCA.CA.USA.NOAM [Nowhere-City] DP6.00 $:SVND7J_W6TJ

>From w6tj%w6tj.#sca.ca.usa.noam@... Fri May 2 22:59:36 2025
Received: from k7ek.ampr.org by k7ek.ampr.org (JNOS2.0p.6) with SMTP
id AA6608 ; Fri, 02 May 2025 22:59:36 EDT
Message-Id: <SVND7J_W6TJ@...>
>From: w6tj@w6tj.#sca.ca.usa.noam
X-JNOS-User-Port: Circuit (ARECS:N2NOV-7 N2NOV-7) -> Sending message

>From w6tj%w6tj.#sca.ca.usa.noam@... Fri May 2 11:47:44 2025
Received: from kq6up.ampr.org by kq6up.ampr.org (JNOS2.0o.2) with SMTP
id AA64797 ; Fri, 02 May 2025 11:47:44 PDT
Message-Id: <SVND7J_W6TJ@...>
>From: w6tj@w6tj.#sca.ca.usa.noam
X-JNOS-User-Port: Circuit (MVBBS:AB6MV-1 AB6MV-1) -> Sending message

From: W6TJ @ W6TJ.#SCA.CA.USA.NOAM (Rcara)
*To: CW @ SCA

Test
*



[End of Message #36040 from W6TJ]

--
Charles J. Hargrove - N2NOV
NYC-ARECS/RACES Citywide Radio Officer/Skywarn Coord.

NYC-ARECS/RACES Nets 441.100/136.5 PL
ARnewsline Broadcast Mon. @ 8:00PM
NYC-ARECS Weekly Net Mon. @ 8:30PM


NY-NBEMS Net Saturdays @ 10AM & USeast-NBEMS Net Wednesdays @ 7PM
on 7.036 Mhz USB (alt 3.536)/1500 hz waterfall spot; MFSK-16 or 32

"Information is the oxygen of the modern age. It seeps through the walls
topped
by barbed wire, it wafts across the electrified borders." - Ronald Reagan

"The more corrupt the state, the more it legislates." - Tacitus

"Molann an obair an fear" - Irish Saying
(The work praises the man.)

"No matter how big and powerful government gets, and the many services it
provides, it can never take the place of volunteers." - Ronald Reagan

--
Thanks,
Chris Maness

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Snark is not really helpful.

Hi, Chris:

What part of my post resembles 'snark'?

73, Chuck

"I hope W6TJ completes his testing soon." kind of has this eye roll
thing. Maybe that is not what you intended (for the benefit of
doubt), but that is how it comes across.

Sincerely,
73 de Chris KQ6UP

On Sat, May 3, 2025 at 8:04?AM Chuck Gelm via groups.io
<nc8q-aredn@...> wrote:

On 5/3/25 10:39, Chris Maness KQ6UP via groups.io wrote:

Snark is not really helpful.

Hi, Chris:

What part of my post resembles 'snark'?

73, Chuck

--
Thanks,
Chris Maness

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It is the way JNOS does its rewrite.  I forward CW to Charles no
matter what the @AREA is.  That is because it matches CW first.  This
behavior is not the same as BPQ's flood bulletin rules.  It is first
match wins and I have topics before flood areas.  Maybe matching areas
first is a better option.  I have to consider the ramifications of
that.  That is a good reason to do testing to get constructive
feedback. 

Hi, Chris:

So, now I understand JNOS uses different criteria in the routing of messages.
It seems to me that the routing interface between JNOS<>BPQ(AA4RE,F6FBB) may
be the crux of the issue.

I am uncomfortable with the word 'rewrite'.

I urge you to consider routing [Bulletins,P,T] via @AREA ahead of 'TO' [addressee,topic].
'CW'? may be a common acronym in @SCA[.CA.USA.NOAM] and yet may have a different
meaning/usage elsewhere.

I think this list server is a marvelous place to discuss interoperability
among other software and BPQ32.

73, Chuck

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"I hope W6TJ completes his testing soon." kind of has this eye roll
thing.  Maybe that is not what you intended (for the benefit of
doubt), but that is how it comes across.

Sincerely,
73 de Chris KQ6UP

Hi, Chris:

Thanks. I see your point.
I apologize.

73, Chuck