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HF Forwarding partners needed


 

I'm looking for some HF Forwarding partners for NTS and Emergence traffic as it becomes necessary don't need any bulletins over HF. I have a full time 24/7 BPQ32 station setup and ready to rock and roll here in the lower part of Texas where it seems to be forgotten. If you are interested send your connect script to this station, I will put your callsign in my forwarding file for a connection. To connect to my station, you can find the listed frequencies on WL2K webpage.


 

Hello Robby,

Tough to find you at WL2K without providing your call.

73 de Rich WA3WLH


 

AA5AF you are right thanks for the reminder
Robby

On Mar 5, 2025, at 10:54?AM, Rich Sahlender via groups.io <wa3wlh@...> wrote:

Hello Robby,

Tough to find you at WL2K without providing your call.

73 de Rich WA3WLH







 

What modes do you support, Pactor, packet, VARA, ?
contact me direct via call at ARRL.net
jim KI0BK?
Olathe KS


 

You should be connecting to KE5YTA for NTSD/DTN traffic.
He is the South Central Area Digital Traffic (Net) hub.
His QRZ info is good.
73 de W4DNA - Dave
4RN Digital Hub


 

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What rule says I got to go through KE5YTA you can forward traffic to any station that you are able to have a consistent connection with?

On Mar 13, 2025, at 5:56?PM, W4DNA - Dave via groups.io <w4dna@...> wrote:

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You should be connecting to KE5YTA for NTSD/DTN traffic.
He is the South Central Area Digital Traffic (Net) hub.
His QRZ info is good.
73 de W4DNA - Dave
4RN Digital Hub


 

Well, there isn’t a “rule” but if you want any guarantees that your digital traffic will actually get to its destination you might want to forward to one of the known digital hubs. Otherwise it just may bounce around to stations that are not following any guidelines. It’s your choice in the end.
73,
Todd N7TRY
PNW7 Alt Digital Hub.


On Thu, Mar 13, 2025 at 6:24?PM Robby via <Robby.roberson=[email protected]> wrote:
What rule says I got to go through KE5YTA you can forward traffic to any station that you are able to have a consistent connection with?

On Mar 13, 2025, at 5:56?PM, W4DNA - Dave via <w4dna=[email protected]> wrote:

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You should be connecting to KE5YTA for NTSD/DTN traffic.
He is the South Central Area Digital Traffic (Net) hub.
His QRZ info is good.
73 de W4DNA - Dave
4RN Digital Hub


 

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That’s what I’m saying?

On Mar 13, 2025, at 8:42?PM, Todd Kolmodin via groups.io <n7try.or@...> wrote:

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Well, there isn’t a “rule” but if you want any guarantees that your digital traffic will actually get to its destination you might want to forward to one of the known digital hubs. Otherwise it just may bounce around to stations that are not following any guidelines. It’s your choice in the end.
73,
Todd N7TRY
PNW7 Alt Digital Hub.


On Thu, Mar 13, 2025 at 6:24?PM Robby via <Robby.roberson=[email protected]> wrote:
What rule says I got to go through KE5YTA you can forward traffic to any station that you are able to have a consistent connection with?

On Mar 13, 2025, at 5:56?PM, W4DNA - Dave via <w4dna=[email protected]> wrote:

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You should be connecting to KE5YTA for NTSD/DTN traffic.
He is the South Central Area Digital Traffic (Net) hub.
His QRZ info is good.
73 de W4DNA - Dave
4RN Digital Hub


 

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if you can connect consistently with a digital hub in the east or west then you send it to them if make arrangements with a station then you send it to them your choice nobody else?

On Mar 13, 2025, at 8:42?PM, Todd Kolmodin via groups.io <n7try.or@...> wrote:

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Well, there isn’t a “rule” but if you want any guarantees that your digital traffic will actually get to its destination you might want to forward to one of the known digital hubs. Otherwise it just may bounce around to stations that are not following any guidelines. It’s your choice in the end.
73,
Todd N7TRY
PNW7 Alt Digital Hub.


On Thu, Mar 13, 2025 at 6:24?PM Robby via <Robby.roberson=[email protected]> wrote:
What rule says I got to go through KE5YTA you can forward traffic to any station that you are able to have a consistent connection with?

On Mar 13, 2025, at 5:56?PM, W4DNA - Dave via <w4dna=[email protected]> wrote:

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You should be connecting to KE5YTA for NTSD/DTN traffic.
He is the South Central Area Digital Traffic (Net) hub.
His QRZ info is good.
73 de W4DNA - Dave
4RN Digital Hub


 

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Some of these things I don’t understand.

In our county, if you want to be involved in serving in a disaster, you are 10 trillion more times likely, if you have been affiliating with those who are legally empowered to manage the disaster. If they have never met you and don’t know who you are, how would they know to take advantage of your capabilities when something really bad has happened and they’re very very stressed??

If you’ve been working with them and their volunteers, and growing relationships for years, and are called upon every time there’s a declared disaster, ?then you can pretty much guarantee you will have stuff to do. Of course, normal communications don’t always break down and so you may not get called to transmit terribly important messages, but at least you’re there and known And available in case they do. ? You’ll probably be running training exercises every few weeks to keep up techniques and assets. ?

So I think if you really want to be involved in emergencies, the best thing to do is start serving and building those relationships with people who are legally in charge when the emergencies occur

Gordon KX4Z?





On Mar 13, 2025, at 21:48, Robby via groups.io <Robby.roberson@...> wrote:

?if you can connect consistently with a digital hub in the east or west then you send it to them if make arrangements with a station then you send it to them your choice nobody else?

On Mar 13, 2025, at 8:42?PM, Todd Kolmodin via groups.io <n7try.or@...> wrote:

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Well, there isn’t a “rule” but if you want any guarantees that your digital traffic will actually get to its destination you might want to forward to one of the known digital hubs. Otherwise it just may bounce around to stations that are not following any guidelines. It’s your choice in the end.
73,
Todd N7TRY
PNW7 Alt Digital Hub.


On Thu, Mar 13, 2025 at 6:24?PM Robby via <Robby.roberson=[email protected]> wrote:
What rule says I got to go through KE5YTA you can forward traffic to any station that you are able to have a consistent connection with?

On Mar 13, 2025, at 5:56?PM, W4DNA - Dave via <w4dna=[email protected]> wrote:

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You should be connecting to KE5YTA for NTSD/DTN traffic.
He is the South Central Area Digital Traffic (Net) hub.
His QRZ info is good.
73 de W4DNA - Dave
4RN Digital Hub


 

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On Mar 13, 2025, at 8:54?PM, Gordon Gibby KX4Z via groups.io <docvacuumtubes@...> wrote:

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Some of these things I don’t understand.

In our county, if you want to be involved in serving in a disaster, you are 10 trillion more times likely, if you have been affiliating with those who are legally empowered to manage the disaster. If they have never met you and don’t know who you are, how would they know to take advantage of your capabilities when something really bad has happened and they’re very very stressed??

If you’ve been working with them and their volunteers, and growing relationships for years, and are called upon every time there’s a declared disaster, ?then you can pretty much guarantee you will have stuff to do. Of course, normal communications don’t always break down and so you may not get called to transmit terribly important messages, but at least you’re there and known And available in case they do. ? You’ll probably be running training exercises every few weeks to keep up techniques and assets. ?

So I think if you really want to be involved in emergencies, the best thing to do is start serving and building those relationships with people who are legally in charge when the emergencies occur

Gordon KX4Z?





On Mar 13, 2025, at 21:48, Robby via groups.io <Robby.roberson@...> wrote:

?if you can connect consistently with a digital hub in the east or west then you send it to them if make arrangements with a station then you send it to them your choice nobody else?

On Mar 13, 2025, at 8:42?PM, Todd Kolmodin via groups.io <n7try.or@...> wrote:

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Well, there isn’t a “rule” but if you want any guarantees that your digital traffic will actually get to its destination you might want to forward to one of the known digital hubs. Otherwise it just may bounce around to stations that are not following any guidelines. It’s your choice in the end.
73,
Todd N7TRY
PNW7 Alt Digital Hub.


On Thu, Mar 13, 2025 at 6:24?PM Robby via <Robby.roberson=[email protected]> wrote:
What rule says I got to go through KE5YTA you can forward traffic to any station that you are able to have a consistent connection with?

On Mar 13, 2025, at 5:56?PM, W4DNA - Dave via <w4dna=[email protected]> wrote:

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You should be connecting to KE5YTA for NTSD/DTN traffic.
He is the South Central Area Digital Traffic (Net) hub.
His QRZ info is good.
73 de W4DNA - Dave
4RN Digital Hub


 

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I;m my own south central


On Mar 13, 2025, at 5:56?PM, W4DNA - Dave via groups.io <w4dna@...> wrote:

You should be connecting to KE5YTA for NTSD/DTN traffic.
He is the South Central Area Digital Traffic (Net) hub.
His QRZ info is good.
73 de W4DNA - Dave
4RN Digital Hub


 

Yes, there are rules to follow in the DTN. Refer to the ARRL Public Service Communications Manual, Appendix B, Methods and Practices Guidelines, Ch. 6, the ARRL NTS Manual, RRI's Traffic Operations Manual, and the various DTN Area web pages for your network Area, .?
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Dave, W7EES
ARRL Oregon Section Traffic Manager
Oregon DTN Hub


 

Are any of the below BBSs also on South Central?
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AA5AF.#STX.TX.USA.NOAM
KA5D.#STX.TX.USA.NOAM
KF5RLL.#STX.TX.USA.NOAM
KI5HKP.#STX.TX.US.NOAM
KI5HMI.#STX.TX.USA.NOAM
KI5ICT.#STX.TX.USA.NOAM
KK4ZUZ.#STX.TX.US.NOAM
N4NVD.#STX.TX.USA.NOAM
N5MDT.#STX.TX.USA.NOAM
N5RDM.#DFW.TX.USA.NOAM
N6ROE.#STX.TX.USA.NOAM
N9SEO.#STX.TX.USA.NOAM
NR5US.TX.USA.NOAM
W5JEP.TX.USA.NOAM
W5SEG.TX.USA.NOAM
WA5EOC.#STX.TX.USA.NOAM
WA9JG.#STX.TX.USA.NOAM
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If yes, perhaps some of them do HF forwarding.
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73, Chuck
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Chuck
w5seg.tx.usa.noam is no longer active i’m aa5af now thanks anyway?
Robby/AA5AF

On Mar 25, 2025, at 8:04?AM, Chuck Gelm via groups.io <nc8q-aredn@...> wrote:

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Are any of the below BBSs also on South Central?
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AA5AF.#STX.TX.USA.NOAM
KA5D.#STX.TX.USA.NOAM
KF5RLL.#STX.TX.USA.NOAM
KI5HKP.#STX.TX.US.NOAM
KI5HMI.#STX.TX.USA.NOAM
KI5ICT.#STX.TX.USA.NOAM
KK4ZUZ.#STX.TX.US.NOAM
N4NVD.#STX.TX.USA.NOAM
N5MDT.#STX.TX.USA.NOAM
N5RDM.#DFW.TX.USA.NOAM
N6ROE.#STX.TX.USA.NOAM
N9SEO.#STX.TX.USA.NOAM
NR5US.TX.USA.NOAM
W5JEP.TX.USA.NOAM
W5SEG.TX.USA.NOAM
WA5EOC.#STX.TX.USA.NOAM
WA9JG.#STX.TX.USA.NOAM
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If yes, perhaps some of them do HF forwarding.
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73, Chuck
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That’s why we have our own system of operators willing to handle traffic not part of the RRI

On Mar 25, 2025, at 8:09?AM, Robby Roberson <robby.roberson@...> wrote:

?They are your rules not mine?

On Mar 25, 2025, at 8:06?AM, W7EES via groups.io <dave@...> wrote:

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Yes, there are rules to follow in the DTN. Refer to the ARRL Public Service Communications Manual, Appendix B, Methods and Practices Guidelines, Ch. 6, the ARRL NTS Manual, RRI's Traffic Operations Manual, and the various DTN Area web pages for your network Area, .?
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Dave, W7EES
ARRL Oregon Section Traffic Manager
Oregon DTN Hub


 

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On 3/25/25 07:11, Robby via groups.io wrote:

This is not the group to gripe about RRI or NTS, but I would submit that the spirit of the "rules" have value.

If inbound traffic is forwarded to a station, especially an automated station, we must have confidence that that traffic will be handled by either delivering or forwarding it. This requires a trust relationship, and is in part why such "rules" exist. Outbound traffic is another matter, but I think you are looking for inbound traffic.

But we should probably take this discussion elsewhere.

73 -Willem AC0KQ
STM Colorado


That’s why we have our own system of operators willing to handle traffic not part of the RRI

On Mar 25, 2025, at 8:09?AM, Robby Roberson <robby.roberson@...> wrote:

? They are your rules not mine?

On Mar 25, 2025, at 8:06?AM, W7EES via groups.io <dave@...> wrote:

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Yes, there are rules to follow in the DTN. Refer to the ARRL Public Service Communications Manual, Appendix B, Methods and Practices Guidelines, Ch. 6, the ARRL NTS Manual, RRI's Traffic Operations Manual, and the various DTN Area web pages for your network Area, .?
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Dave, W7EES
ARRL Oregon Section Traffic Manager
Oregon DTN Hub


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Address:  3835 Beaver Brook Canyon Road,  Evergreen, CO  80439, USA
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Sir I apologize to you but i didn’t start this mess people started trying to tell me what to do and i don’t appreciate that?

On Mar 25, 2025, at 8:49?AM, Willem Schreuder via groups.io <willem@...> wrote:

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On 3/25/25 07:11, Robby via groups.io wrote:

This is not the group to gripe about RRI or NTS, but I would submit that the spirit of the "rules" have value.

If inbound traffic is forwarded to a station, especially an automated station, we must have confidence that that traffic will be handled by either delivering or forwarding it. This requires a trust relationship, and is in part why such "rules" exist. Outbound traffic is another matter, but I think you are looking for inbound traffic.

But we should probably take this discussion elsewhere.

73 -Willem AC0KQ
STM Colorado


That’s why we have our own system of operators willing to handle traffic not part of the RRI

On Mar 25, 2025, at 8:09?AM, Robby Roberson <robby.roberson@...> wrote:

? They are your rules not mine?

On Mar 25, 2025, at 8:06?AM, W7EES via groups.io <dave@...> wrote:

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Yes, there are rules to follow in the DTN. Refer to the ARRL Public Service Communications Manual, Appendix B, Methods and Practices Guidelines, Ch. 6, the ARRL NTS Manual, RRI's Traffic Operations Manual, and the various DTN Area web pages for your network Area, .?
?
Dave, W7EES
ARRL Oregon Section Traffic Manager
Oregon DTN Hub


-- 
================================================================
Dr. Willem A. Schreuder,  President,  Principia Mathematica
Address:  3835 Beaver Brook Canyon Road,  Evergreen, CO  80439, USA
Tel: (303) 716-3573   Email: Willem.Schreuder@...