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Re: 6pack in bpq ?
Ahhh My focus is bring back wampes. ?Thanks for the post OA. N9pno? George Kirn had contact with this data. On Wed, Jul 17, 2024 at 11:43?AM Marc-Andre Alpers (DO4OA) via <do4oa=[email protected]> wrote: Hello Brain! |
Re: 6pack in bpq ?
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No. SMACK ist only KISS with CRC. Am 17.07.24 um 17:56 schrieb Brian Webster N2KGC via groups.io: For what it¡¯s worth X-Net has a SMACK eprom image for the TNC that needs to be used when running that node OS. Since X-Net is both NetROM and FlexNet compatible I assume that SMACK is similar to 6PACK --
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Re: 6pack in bpq ?
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýThe one drawback to TNC¡¯s being daisy chained together on a single serial port, is that in one of the TNC¡¯s stops working in the chain, ALL of the TNC¡¯s on that serial port stop working. ? Worth noting is that the speed of the serial port needs to be at least the sum of all the TNC¡¯s serial ports in the daisy chain. This would suggest that your serial port speed should be set to the same as your on air speed because if you had 4 TNC¡¯s in a chain where the serial speed was set to 9600 baud, the computer serial port would have to have a speed of 9600 x 4. ? Brian N2KGC ? From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Chris K1MAL via groups.io ? I uploaded the linux source code for the driver, and (the translated) web pages from the old German flexnet site in case anyone wants to take it on.? I found it in archive.org's wayback machine. I also included the 6pack eprom in the zip file. ? /g/bpq32/files/6pack_info.zip ? I think the coolest thing about 6pack is the way you can daisy chain TNC's via just their RS232's TX and RX's together in series like a token ring network. Doing this lets lets you run multiple TNC's on one rs232 PC port? ? 73 Chris K1MAL |
Re: 6pack in bpq ?
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýIt would be awesome if we could get the 6Pack features in to sound modem drivers of some sort! Having all AX.25 being able to adapt to the channel loading conditions to maximize channel throughput would really help to improve the network capacities. Since AX.25 is carrier sense protocol, having some features to adapt the packets to the channel traffic load would be great. Being able to do it in a drive and not require a TNC with a special eprom would be fantastic. Anything that makes the AX.25 traffic more efficient is a good thing. ? The rate adaption to the channel traffic load is one of the features I liked about FlexNet. It helps get the most out of a RF channel. John if you can write drivers for soundmodem that can improve all things AX.25 where people can build packet nodes without hardware TNC¡¯s the whole packet ecosystem would greatly benefit. ? For what it¡¯s worth X-Net has a SMACK eprom image for the TNC that needs to be used when running that node OS. Since X-Net is both NetROM and FlexNet compatible I assume that SMACK is similar to 6PACK ? Brian N2KGC ? From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of John G8BPQ
Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2024 7:31 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [bpq32] 6pack in bpq ? ? Yes, multiple TNCs on a serial port are supported by the BPQKISS EPROM. Although I'd heard of 6pack I'd never looked closely at it. The 6pack protocol, even if not used for controlling? more than one TNC, seems to give the host much better control of channel access, as the channel status (DCD) is passed to the host and PTT timing is controlled by the host. This could improve ax.25 protocol timing and facilitate interlocking ax.25 and other protocols on the same radio. I think it will be worth me looking into adding a 6pack driver to BPQ and 6pack protocol support to QtSoundModem. Thanks, Chris for bringing this to my attention. 73, John ? On 17/07/2024 07:47, Danny Oudendag wrote:
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Re: 6pack in bpq ?
6pack can be setup on the AX.25 Packet LAN as a Token ring with one
node being the DAMA master, and all the others slaves. I this is good for busy channels. If someone wants a real challenge the linux kernel space driver would cause an instant kernel panic, but this may be ok now that they have fixed the linux ax.25 kernel space bugs. I have not tested my new setup with 6pack yet. -73 de Chris KQ6UP On Wed, Jul 17, 2024 at 4:30?AM John G8BPQ via groups.io <john.wiseman@...> wrote:
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Re: 6pack in bpq ?
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýYes, multiple TNCs on a serial port are supported by the BPQKISS EPROM. Although I'd heard of 6pack I'd never looked closely at it. The 6pack protocol, even if not used for controlling? more than one TNC, seems to give the host much better control of channel access, as the channel status (DCD) is passed to the host and PTT timing is controlled by the host. This could improve ax.25 protocol timing and facilitate interlocking ax.25 and other protocols on the same radio. I think it will be worth me looking into adding a 6pack driver to BPQ and 6pack protocol support to QtSoundModem. Thanks, Chris for bringing this to my attention. 73, John
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Re: 6pack in bpq ?
This can be done with bpqkiss also.. works great,did run 3 tiny-2 this way on one com port. Op 17 jul. 2024 04:33 schreef "Chris K1MAL via groups.io" <radiochris@...>:
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Re: 6pack in bpq ?
I uploaded the linux source code for the driver, and (the translated) web pages from the old German flexnet site in case anyone wants to take it on.?
I found it in archive.org's wayback machine. I also included the 6pack eprom in the zip file.
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I think the coolest thing about 6pack is the way you can daisy chain TNC's via just their RS232's TX and RX's together in series like a token ring network. Doing this lets lets you run multiple TNC's on one rs232 PC port.?
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Re: RMS with ARDOP
I found the problem. Wrong ARDOP_WIN version. I used in BPQ32 the 0.9.0.0 version from ARDOP CHAT. Changing for the 1.0.2.6 version that comes with Winlink Express works fine.? :-))) Thanks for the help, John and Mark. My Best regards. ?:-) Em ter., 16 de jul. de 2024 ¨¤s 05:28, John G8BPQ via <john.wiseman=[email protected]> escreveu: I loaded your config here and it works ok. |
Re: RMS with ARDOP
I also don't understand what happens. It should work. Perhaps it is in configuration of the ARDOP TNC used in the BPQ32. This is my ARDOP setup and BPQ Windows. Em ter., 16 de jul. de 2024 ¨¤s 05:28, John G8BPQ via <john.wiseman=[email protected]> escreveu: I loaded your config here and it works ok. |
Re: RMS with ARDOP
I loaded your config here and it works ok.
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The call to PY1XTA-10 connects to the CMS but fails to login as the password isn't set. The call to PY1XTA connects to the node. I don't get any ctext as you haven't defined HFCTEXT in your config, but I can enter node commands. So I'm puzzled as to why it doesn't work for you. 73, John *** ARQ Call to PY1XTA-10 (Bandwidth = 500MAX) @ 2024/07/16 08:22:51 ?*** ARDOP_Win TNC STATUS:? BREAK RECEIVED FROM PROTOCOL STATE IDLE, NEW STATE IRS @ 2024/07/16 08:23:01 *** G8BPQ Connected to CMS *** [1] Invalid gateway login - Incorrect password - Disconnecting (212.56.108.143) ?*** ARDOP_Win TNC STATUS:? ARQ CONNECTION ENDED WITH PY1XTA-10 ID:PY1XTA-10 [GG87ea]: *** Clear channel detected *** ARQ Call to PY1XTA (Bandwidth = 500MAX) @ 2024/07/16 08:23:23 G8BPQ[]: ? ?*** ARDOP_Win TNC STATUS:? BREAK RECEIVED FROM PROTOCOL STATE IDLE, NEW STATE IRS @ 2024/07/16 08:23:44 XTANOD:PY1XTA-4} BBS CHAT RMS CONNECT BYE INFO NODES PORTS ROUTES USERS MHEARD G8BPQ[]: rms ?*** ARDOP_Win TNC STATUS:? QUEUE BREAK NEW PROTOCOL STATE IRSTOISS @ 2024/07/16 08:24:32 ?*** ARDOP_Win TNC STATUS:? BREAK RECEIVED FROM PROTOCOL STATE IDLE, NEW STATE IRS @ 2024/07/16 08:24:41 Trying ec2-54-204-42-249.compute-1.amazonaws.com *** G8BPQ Connected to CMS *** [1] Invalid gateway login - Incorrect password - Disconnecting (212.56.108.143) ?*** ARDOP_Win TNC STATUS:? ARQ CONNECTION ENDED WITH PY1XTA On 15/07/2024 21:26, Mauro Veiga wrote:
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VARA Port In Use?
When forwarding with VARA HF and when there is a message to be send.?If?the freq that
I change to is busy VARA will not let BPQ send the connect command which I understand but?more often than not the VARA port will show as busy and?BPQ will not allow the radio to? return to its?normal freq.? Is there a command that will clear the VARA?port?in use?after a period of time?? --?
73 de Glenn N3MEL (FRNPA) 1st Responders Network of Pa PKT:145.090 & VARA HF:3.596 WL2K:145.670 Emergency Coordinator Chester County ARES/RACES AREDN Mesh: n3mel-hapac-wbrad Mesh Email:?n3mel@... |
Re: RMS with ARDOP
My .cfg. ; Written by BPQConfigGen SIMPLE NODECALL=PY1XTA-4 NODEALIAS=XTANOD LOCATOR=GG87EA IDMSG: ; UI broadcast text from NODECALL to fixed dest ID PY1XTA BPQ BBS NODE (IDMSG) *** ; Denotes end of IDMSG text BTEXT: ; UI broadcast text from BCALL to destination UNPROTO= !2258.72S/04339.62W {BPQ32} PY1XTA BPQ NODE/BBS Test (BTEXT) *** ; Denotes end of BTEXT text MAPCOMMENT=PY1XTA BPQ Packet NODE/BBS<BR>Rio de Janeiro - Brazil<BR>7.040MHz USB at 300 Baud<BR>XTANOD:PY1XTA NODE<BR>XTABBS:PY1XTA-1 BBS INFOMSG: ; The INFO command text follows: - (INFOMSG) ?.--------------------------------------. ?| ? ?PY1XTA XTANOD TERMINAL BPQ32 ? ? ?| ?| ?Rio de Janeiro, RJ - Brasil - GG87 ?| ?| ? ? ? ?maurorveiga@... ? ? ? ? | ?'--------------------------------------' PY1XTA-4> CONNECT BYE INFO NODES ROUTES PORTS USERS MHEARD *** ; Denotes end of INFOMSG text CTEXT: ; The CTEXT text follows: -=[ Bem vindo a meu NODE/BBS Experimental ]=- (CTEXT) ?PY1XTA-4> CONNECT BYE INFO NODES ROUTES PORTS USERS MHEARD *** ; Denotes end of CTEXT text FULL_CTEXT=1 ; 0=send CTEXT to L2 connects to NODEALIAS only ; 1=send CTEXT to all connectees ; Network System Parameters: OBSINIT=6 ; Initial obsolescence set when a node is included ; in a received nodes broadcast. This value is then ; decremented by 1 every NODESINTERVAL. OBSMIN=4 ; When the obsolescence of a node falls below this ; value that node's information is not included in ; a subsequent nodes broadcast. NODESINTERVAL=20 ; Nodes broadcast interval in minutes IDINTERVAL=20 ; 'IDMSG' UI broadcast interval in minutes, 0=OF BTINTERVAL=20 ; The BTEXT broadcast interval in minutes, 0=OFF L3TIMETOLIVE=25 ; Max L3 hops L4RETRIES=6 ; Level 4 retry count L4TIMEOUT=60 ; Level 4 timeout in seconds s/b > FRACK x RETRIES L4DELAY=10 ; Level 4 delayed ack timer in seconds L4WINDOW=4 ; Level 4 window size MAXLINKS=63 ; Max level 2 links MAXNODES=512 ; Max nodes in nodes table MAXROUTES=64 ; Max adjacent nodes MAXCIRCUITS=128 ; Max L4 circuits MINQUAL=168 ; Minimum quality to add to nodes table MAXHOPS=4 ; INP3 hop limit to add to tables MAXRTT=90 ; INP3 max RTT in seconds ;BUFFERS=255 ; This parameter is no longer used in the Win32 version. ; TNC default parameters: PACLEN=120 ; Max packet size (236 max for net/rom) TRANSDELAY=1 ; Transparent node send delay in seconds SAVEMH=1 T3=120 ; Link validation timer in seconds IDLETIME=720 ; Idle link shutdown timer in seconds ; Configuration Options: AUTOSAVE=1 ; Saves BPQNODES.dat upon program exit BBS=1 ; 1 = BBS support included, 0 = No BBS support NODE=1 ; Include switch support HIDENODES=1 ; If set to 1, nodes beginning with a # ; require a 'N *' command to be displayed. /* The *** LINKED command is intended for use by gateway software, and concern has been expressed that it could be misused. It is recommended that it be disabled (=N) if unneeded. */ ENABLE_LINKED=N ; Controls processing of *** LINKED command ; Y = allows unrestricted use ; A = allows use by application program ; N = disabled ROUTES: ; Locked routes (31 maximum) ?;There are no locked routes in this example. *** ; Denotes end of locked routes ?;RADIO 1 HAMLIB ? PORT ?PORTNUM=1 ; Optonal but sets port number if stated ?ID=LOOPBACK ; Defines the Loopback port name ?TYPE=INTERNAL ; Loopback is an internal type ENDPORT PORT ?PORTNUM=2 ?ID=AFSK Ch 1 300 Baud ?TYPE=ASYNC ?PROTOCOL=KISS ?KISSOPTIONS=ACKMODE ?IPADDR=127.0.0.1 ?TCPPORT=7100 ?CHANNEL=A ?PACLEN=60 ?TXDELAY=500 ?TXTAIL=30 ?FRACK=7000 ?RESPTIME=3000 ?MAXFRAME=1 ?RETRIES=10 ?SLOTTIME=100 ?PERSIST=64 ?PORTCALL=PY1XTA ENDPORT PORT ?PORTNUM=4 ?ID=VARA HF ?DRIVER=VARA ?PORTCALL=PY1XTA ?INTERLOCK=1 ?CONFIG ? ADDR 127.0.0.1 9300 ? BW2300 ? ;WL2KREPORT PUBLIC, , 80, PY1XTA-10, GG87EA, 19-21, 7041500, VARA, 25 ENDPORT PORT PORTNUM=5 ?ID=Telnet Server ?DRIVER=TELNET ?CONFIG ? LOGGING=1 ? TCPPORT=8010 ? FBBPORT=8011 ? HTTPPORT=8080 ? USER=PY1XTA,202427,PY1XTA,,SYSOP ? USER=ANON,ax25 ? LOCALNET=192.168.1.106 ? CTEXT=CONNECTED> ? CMS=1 ? CMSCALL=PY1XTA-10 ? CMSPASS= ? RELAYAPPL=RMS ENDPORT PORT ?PORTNUM=7 ?ID=ARDOP ?DRIVER=ARDOP ?PORTCALL=PY1XTA ?INTERLOCK=1 ?CONFIG ? ADDR 127.0.0.1 9515 ;custom port ? DEBUGLOG TRUE ? CMDTRACE TRUE ? CWID FALSE ? DRIVELEVEL 100 ? BUSYWAIT 20 ? MAXCONREQ 10 ? GRIDSQUARE GG87EA ? FECREPEATS 0 ENDPORT AGWPORT=8001 AGWMASK=0X30 AGWSESSIONS=2 ; Applications APPLICATION 1,BBS,,PY1XTA-1,XTABBS,255 APPLICATION 2,CHAT,,PY1XTA-2,XTACHA,255 APPLICATION 3,RMS,C 5 CMS,PY1XTA-10,XTARMS,255 ; ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ; APRS SETTINGS APRSDIGI LOCALTIME=1 DISTKM=1 ?APRSCall=PY1XTA ?StatusMsg= BPQ NODE BBS IGATE Experimental 7.040MHz - Vida Longa e Prospera ?; Symbol=& ; Icon, a Black Diamond, to display for station. ?; Symset=I ; This is a "I" in a Black Diamond. ?Symbol=a ; Icon to display for station. ?Symset=B ; This is a "B" in a Red Diamond. ?; ?;APRSPath 1= ;Receive only port ?APRSPath 1=APRS ;Send beacon locally ?;APRSPath 2=APRS,WIDE1-1,WIDE2-1 ?APRSPath 2=APRS,WIDE1-1 ;Dest and up to 8 digis ?BeaconInterval=30 ;Send Beacon every 30 minute. Minimum is 5 mins ?BeacontoIS=1 ?MAXAGE=120 ;In minutes, after which the APRSCall is 'old' ?Digimap 2=2,IS ?;Digimap 3=3,IS ?;Digimap 4=4,IS ?DIGICALLS=PY1XTA-15 ?TraceCalls=WIDE,TRACE ; Calls for CALLN-n Processing with Trace ?ReplaceDigiCalls ; Replace DigiCalls with APRSCall. Omit if you want the call to be left as ; it is received. ?MaxTraceHops=2 ; Max value of n in CALLN-n processing. If a packet is received with n greater than ?MaxFloodHops=2 ; this, the value will be replaced BEFORE it is decremented. ?GPSPort=0 ; if specified, lat/lon will be taken from a GPS ?GPSSpeed=0 ; You can specify a fixed LAT/LONG instead of using GPS ?LAT=2258.72S ; Must be in standard APRS Format (ddmm.mmN/S) ?LON=04339.62W ; Must be in standard APRS Format (dddmm.mmE/W) ?ISHost= ; APRS-IS Host Name. May be either an IPV4 or an IPV6 Host ?ISPort=14580 ; Normal port for a filtered feed ?ISPasscode= ; If you don't already have a passcode G8BPQ can issue you one. ?LOGAPRSIS=1 ?ISFilter=m/200 u/APBPQ* ; Used in BPQAPRS mapping application as a default to add BPQ nodes wordwide. ; ; Adding this now when there are so many BPQ nodes increases network traffic ; unnecessarily! *** ;Denotes end of APRSDIGI configuration ROUTES: ; Locked routes (31 maximum) *** ; Denotes end of locked routes Em seg., 15 de jul. de 2024 ¨¤s 17:04, John G8BPQ via <john.wiseman=[email protected]> escreveu:
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Re: RMS with ARDOP
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýThe ARDOP config you posted doesn't have a PORTCALL.Maybe it would help if you post your whole config, less any passwords. 73, John On 15/07/2024 20:08, Mauro Veiga wrote:
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Re: RMS with ARDOP
Hello John. I have "Send Kbrd Text to OB Queue On" set to CR and ARQ mode. The port only accept connection to PORTCALL and BPQ not respond to commands typed on ARDOP CHAT. Em seg., 15 de jul. de 2024 ¨¤s 14:12, John G8BPQ via <john.wiseman=[email protected]> escreveu:
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Re: RMS with ARDOP
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýI assume you are using ARQ mode in ARDOP Chat. I tested with "Send Kbrd Text to OB Queue On" set to CR in the ARDOP Chat Setup and it seems to work fine here. Are you calling the Node Call-SSID or the RMS application Call/SSID?73, John On 15/07/2024 17:23, Mauro Veiga wrote:
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Re: RMS with ARDOP
The ARDOP port accept conection from The ARDOP CHAT for example. But any commands like Help, Info, BBS or RMS are not passed to BPQ. Em seg., 15 de jul. de 2024, 12:08, John G8BPQ via <john.wiseman=[email protected]> escreveu:
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Re: RMS with ARDOP
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýCan you explain what you mean by doesn't work?What happens when you try to connect? Does the ARDOP console show packets being received? Does the node respond, but fail to establish a connection? Do you get to the node, but not to the RMS application? 73, John On 14/07/2024 20:58, Mauro Veiga wrote:
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Re: RMS with ARDOP
Even testing with only the ARDOP port installed, I cannot connect to the BPQ.? I always test the configurations in local mode before doing it via RF. Em seg., 15 de jul. de 2024, 10:55, Mark Taylor via <mtaylor=[email protected]> escreveu: Ok, using that config ARDOP should answer on any call-ssid defined in the application lines. |
Re: RMS with ARDOP
Ok, using that config ARDOP should answer on any call-ssid defined in the application lines.
I assume you have an application called RMS or similar? I assume you have INTERLOCK=1 also in your VARA port config? Are you able to attach to the port and control your radio CAT, Xmit, and Rx? Now, you should probably post your Rigcontrol or Radio configuration parameters. If it is inside your Vara port maybe show that port configuration as well. (Others are going to be able to provide better assistance. I no longer run Ardop on my node.) Mark |