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Re: QTSoundmodem on Windows XP

 

Thanks, John.
73

Em dom., 9 de jun. de 2024, 03:04, John G8BPQ via <john.wiseman=[email protected]> escreveu:

port 80

73, John

On 08/06/2024 21:45, Mauro Veiga wrote:
John, I would like to ask - which port should I use for in WL2KREPORT line? I've seen them use several different ports.

Em s¨¢b., 8 de jun. de 2024, 12:23, John G8BPQ via <john.wiseman=[email protected]> escreveu:

I've not tried it, but I suspect it needs a newer version of Qt than will run on XP.

73, John

On 08/06/2024 15:18, Mauro Veiga wrote:
Hello All and John. QTsoundmodem doesn't work on Windows XP?

TIA


Re: QTSoundmodem on Windows XP

 

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port 80

73, John

On 08/06/2024 21:45, Mauro Veiga wrote:

John, I would like to ask - which port should I use for in WL2KREPORT line? I've seen them use several different ports.

Em s¨¢b., 8 de jun. de 2024, 12:23, John G8BPQ via <john.wiseman=[email protected]> escreveu:

I've not tried it, but I suspect it needs a newer version of Qt than will run on XP.

73, John

On 08/06/2024 15:18, Mauro Veiga wrote:
Hello All and John. QTsoundmodem doesn't work on Windows XP?

TIA


Re: BBS Forwarding behavior

 

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Nationwide and Worldwide Packet Radio Directory Map links located at the top of www.ww2bsa.org

Best viewed with a large screen (ie: try not to use a cell phone.)

Labor of love and an ongoing work in progress...

Chris ww2bsa


-------- Original message --------
From: "Mark Herson, N2MH" <n2mh@...>
Date: 6/8/24 1:11 PM (GMT-05:00)
Subject: Re: [bpq32] BBS Forwarding behavior

Thanks Lee. To everyone else, while the bpq map of bbs's is nice, it only contains bpq stations. Others like jnos, fbb, uronode, et al, will not show up on that map. Never assume that bpq is the only bbs software out there.

Also look at forwarding headers. Some bbs software, other than bpq, allow limited free form text. You might find location info there.

73, Mark, N2MH


Re: ARDOPCF and QtSoundModem?

 

On 6/8/24 14:36, John G8BPQ wrote:
I'm currently testing ardopcf and QtSoundModem with an IC7100 on a Pi4.

I had to make a change to ardopcf to get it to open the dsnoop device (it reported can't set sample rate).

Once I'm happy that is it working I'll publish the patch to ardopcf and the ALSA configuration. It may not be for a few days as I'm away sailing at the moment.

73, John
Wow!
I am loving this progress.
:-)

73, Chuck


Re: QTSoundmodem on Windows XP

 

John, I would like to ask - which port should I use for in WL2KREPORT line? I've seen them use several different ports.

Em s¨¢b., 8 de jun. de 2024, 12:23, John G8BPQ via <john.wiseman=[email protected]> escreveu:

I've not tried it, but I suspect it needs a newer version of Qt than will run on XP.

73, John

On 08/06/2024 15:18, Mauro Veiga wrote:
Hello All and John. QTsoundmodem doesn't work on Windows XP?

TIA


Re: BBS Forwarding behavior

 

Excellent.
? ?That is what has been happening and what is active and what I have done. It¡¯s nice to know I did not create a problem. In some way white pages still stand as a guide and works. Every day is a work in progress in doing the right thing because of your responses. Thanks ?John bpq and you Mark .

n9pno in Iowa


Re: ARDOPCF and QtSoundModem?

 

I'm currently testing ardopcf and QtSoundModem with an IC7100 on a Pi4.

I had to make a change to ardopcf to get it to open the dsnoop device (it reported can't set sample rate).

Once I'm happy that is it working I'll publish the patch to ardopcf and the ALSA configuration. It may not be for a few days as I'm away sailing at the moment.

73, John

On 08/06/2024 18:48, Chuck Gelm wrote:


On 6/8/24 04:14, John G8BPQ wrote:
You can run both ardopc(f) amd QtSoundModem at the same time. On Windows it is trivial, as Windows allows sharing a sound card. The Linux ALSA hw: driver does not let you share the same soundcard with multiple applications, but there are ALSA plugins DMIX and DSNOOP which will combine streams. Pulseaudo will also allow sharing, but has it own problems.

Configuring DMIX and DSNOOP can be a bit complicated, especially if your soundcard does not directly support a sample rate of 12000. I'm still trying to get it to work, but I'm pretty sure others have and hopefully will post their configurations.

73,

John
Hi, John:

Thanks.

All/any:

I have QtSoundModem running on a mini-laptop with:

pi@nc8q-qj:~$ cat /etc/os-release
NAME="Linux Mint"
VERSION="21.1 (Vera)"
ID=linuxmint
ID_LIKE="ubuntu debian"
PRETTY_NAME="Linux Mint 21.1"
VERSION_ID="21.1"
HOME_URL="
SUPPORT_URL="
BUG_REPORT_URL="
PRIVACY_POLICY_URL="
VERSION_CODENAME=vera
UBUNTU_CODENAME=jammy

Which uses the serial IO of an IC-7100 on 40 or 20 meters.
QtSoundModem runs 300bd;(2) AX.25 and (2) IL2P modems, each on separate audio sub-bands.
IOW, While there might be others using 7103.3c kHz AX.25, I can forward/receive on 7104.3c IL2P
without interfering.

QtSoundModem and pilinBPQ share an AREDN node for LAN/DHCP.
So, in addition to HF ports, it is connected to a local SHF network of 30+ nodes.

I need to read-up on DMIX and DSNOOP.
If there are instructions leading to how to run QtSoundModem and ARDOPCF on an IC-7100,
please tell me where.

73, Chuck





Vintage Comp. DOSBPQ and DOSFBB Working :D

 

Running on VirtualBOX with serial ports Slave/Master TCP/IP ports to
Linux AX.25 stack.
This also worked connected to a TCP/KISS port BPQ32 running in Windows 10.

Thanks to all that helped out pointing me in the right direction. I
have BPQ4.09d running in DOS6.22 (Disks from Archive.org). The only
thing that had me stuck (gave up a couple of years
ago), was the default KISS channel is 15 for some reason. Setting
CHANNEL=A in the ports
definition fixed that right up. Just changed the callsign and ALIAS
info from the example
in there (I also set DESKVIEW=0) as I am not running that.

LH BPQCODE

DosFBB was version 7.00g, and upgraded to 7.00i so that the Satellite
Y2K bugs are fixed.
I also updated the sateupdat for it had a Y2K bug. Thanks IOOJJ and
G8BPQ for pointers.
I love doing this because every old system I set up, I learn more
about packet and the later versions of those same systems.

FBB needs BPQ AA4RE mode settings. This worked first try :D

##########################################################
2.1 For BPQ:
Now an example of a file with 2 ports with BPQ-node and 4 channels on
each port. Note that MultCh starts with 0 on first port !
This one is 100% identical for DosFBB and WinFBB !
This one is not possible for LinFBB as BPQ cannot be run in Linux.
BPQ must be correctly installed for DOS or WINDOWS (respectively) before
it can be used with FBB.

# FBB7.00
#
#Ports TNCs
1 2
#
#Com Interface Address (device) Baud
8 2 0 9600
#
#TNC NbCh Com MultCh Pacln Maxfr NbFwd MxBloc M/P-Fwd Mode Freq
1 4 8 0 230 4 1 1 00/60 UQY 433.650
2 4 8 1 230 4 1 5 10/60 UQY 144.675
#
#TNC Nbs Callsign-SSID Mode
#1 1 LA1B-1 B
#
# End of file.
#



--
Thanks,
Chris Maness


Re: Strange (to me) BBS Forwarding Behavior

 

BPQMail has a compile time option to use 2 or 4 character continent codes. I think it would make sense to make this a configuration option.

@USA is expanded to @USA.NA.WW before processing. The same is true for any other valid HAM country code (with the appropriate continent, of course)

73, John

On 07/06/2024 09:33, Chuck Gelm wrote:
On 6/6/24 15:09, John G8BPQ wrote:
Rich,

The message was addressed N2MH.#NNJ.USA.NOAM but before you said that N3FUD and N3MEL nodes have #NNJ.NJ.USA.NOAM(an extra .NJ). If this is correct then only the USA.NOAM match. CX2SA has CEAM in in routing list but because there is no general agreement whether to use 2 character or 4 character continent code BPQ accepts both but converts 4 char code to the corresponding 2 char code, and CEAM converts to NA. NOAM also converts to NA, so the message gets sent to CX2SA, as that is the first match found.

The message should probably have used #NNJ.NJ.USA.NOAM, but if you include both #NNJ.USA.NOAM and #NNJ.NJ.USA.NOAM in your routing config it should work.

73, John
Great read following this thread.

John G8BPQ:

Would making 'CEAM converts to NA' a true|false setting in bpq32.cfg make sense?

SIMPLE or default could continue to include the conversion, but have an option:
CEAM_converts_to_NA=0/1
option to be used by those in .NOAM/.NA.

I am in .NOAM/.NA, thus I do not have a route to .NOAM.

Following:
In BPQ, Is there an internal conversion to or from .USA.?

73, Chuck





Re: ARDOPCF and QtSoundModem?

 

On 6/8/24 04:14, John G8BPQ wrote:
You can run both ardopc(f) amd QtSoundModem at the same time. On Windows it is trivial, as Windows allows sharing a sound card. The Linux ALSA hw: driver does not let you share the same soundcard with multiple applications, but there are ALSA plugins DMIX and DSNOOP which will combine streams. Pulseaudo will also allow sharing, but has it own problems.

Configuring DMIX and DSNOOP can be a bit complicated, especially if your soundcard does not directly support a sample rate of 12000. I'm still trying to get it to work, but I'm pretty sure others have and hopefully will post their configurations.

73,

John
Hi, John:

Thanks.

All/any:

I have QtSoundModem running on a mini-laptop with:

pi@nc8q-qj:~$ cat /etc/os-release
NAME="Linux Mint"
VERSION="21.1 (Vera)"
ID=linuxmint
ID_LIKE="ubuntu debian"
PRETTY_NAME="Linux Mint 21.1"
VERSION_ID="21.1"
HOME_URL="
SUPPORT_URL="
BUG_REPORT_URL="
PRIVACY_POLICY_URL="
VERSION_CODENAME=vera
UBUNTU_CODENAME=jammy

Which uses the serial IO of an IC-7100 on 40 or 20 meters.
QtSoundModem runs 300bd;(2) AX.25 and (2) IL2P modems, each on separate audio sub-bands.
IOW, While there might be others using 7103.3c kHz AX.25, I can forward/receive on 7104.3c IL2P
without interfering.

QtSoundModem and pilinBPQ share an AREDN node for LAN/DHCP.
So, in addition to HF ports, it is connected to a local SHF network of 30+ nodes.

I need to read-up on DMIX and DSNOOP.
If there are instructions leading to how to run QtSoundModem and ARDOPCF on an IC-7100,
please tell me where.

73, Chuck


Re: BBS Forwarding behavior

 

Of course, two bbs's in different states will have two different HA headers. In this case, just because these two bbs's are run by the same ham, doesn't make that different.

In any case, when checking into a new bbs, I always specify my NJ bbs. This is to keep WP consistent as well to ensure that mail for me, bbs user N2MH, goes to NJ. NJ is where I pick up my mail.

What makes this difficult is that it appears that none of the bbs software authors contemplated one ham having more thn one bbs.

73, Mark


Re: BBS Forwarding behavior

 

Thanks Lee. To everyone else, while the bpq map of bbs's is nice, it only contains bpq stations. Others like jnos, fbb, uronode, et al, will not show up on that map. Never assume that bpq is the only bbs software out there.

Also look at forwarding headers. Some bbs software, other than bpq, allow limited free form text. You might find location info there.

73, Mark, N2MH


Re: BBS Forwarding behavior

 

On Sat, Jun 8, 2024 at 10:23 AM, N9PNO wrote:
when I leave my ¡°home¡± command info in BPQ in a bbs that I ¡°visit¡±!?
When you visit another BBS it may or may not ask you for your name, homebbs, etc.. If it does not ask any or all of the questions you can enter them...

Name George (or George Kirn)
QTH Dubuque, IA
Zip 52001
HomeBBS n9pno.ia.usa.noam? (or n9pno.#nia.ia.usa.noam) (or n9pno.#ecia.ia.usa.noam) or whatever is appropriate for your locale.

Never use routes or anyone else' information.? But ALWAYS make sure your info left there... otherwise the BBS will assume you are a local user and make it your homebbs.


Mark


Re: QTSoundmodem on Windows XP

 

So should I try to recompile? I'll try that.?
Do I use the source code available on the website?

Em s¨¢b., 8 de jun. de 2024, 12:23, John G8BPQ via <john.wiseman=[email protected]> escreveu:

I've not tried it, but I suspect it needs a newer version of Qt than will run on XP.

73, John

On 08/06/2024 15:18, Mauro Veiga wrote:
Hello All and John. QTsoundmodem doesn't work on Windows XP?

TIA


Re: ARDOPCF and QtSoundModem?

 

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On 6/8/24 04:14, John G8BPQ wrote:
Configuring DMIX and DSNOOP can be a bit complicated, especially if your soundcard does not directly support a sample rate of 12000. I'm still trying to get it to work, but I'm pretty sure others have and hopefully will post their configurations.

My -7 node is x64 bookworm and for some time now has 4 active ports on the same 40m dial frequency 7101.3 USB. These all share the same Signalink USB device at hw:0.0.

Port 5 is fx25 300b using the UZ7HO driver with QTSM port A and center adjusted +1000, 7 is QPSK V26A 600b also using the UZ7HO driver with QTSM port B and center adjusted +2000, 8 is VARA500 via wine and 9 is ARDOPC64 500MAX both at +1500 are smack dab in between FX25 and V26A. The UZ7HO driver was used for ports 5 and 7 in order to support INTERLOCK in the port definitions which last I knew was not supported with KISS.

The FX25 port handles both interactive connects and BBS forwards. The V26A port sometimes shows a few callsigns in the MH list but has so far not been used by anyone for anything other then me occasionally testing. I expected this to be busier given some of the chatter a while back about using V26A but at least for me activity is very light here in EPA. Same thing with ARDOP 500MAX. Other than my testing from the mobile in nearby parking lots and such it is hardly used but it does work. The VARA500 port has thus far been used by several for BBS forwards and works well for that. I did not expect nor has there been any interactive use of that port that I noticed.

I never had an issue with ardopc so although I saw the release notice for ardopcf I have not tried it and cannot confirm it will work with a configuration like mine. Anyway all that said a configuration like this on x64 bookworm requires a $HOME/.asoundrc file which can be complicated if unfamiliar and requires corresponding adjustments in the wine registry for VARA. It also requires a bit of CPU horsepower and although I do not use rPi devices I've been told by others that tried similar configs as above that rPi's are unable to do this much at once especially where wine is required.

Anyway following is a sample $HOME/.asoundrc that works here:

pcm.SLUSB5 {
? type hw
? card 0
? device 0
}
pcm.SLUSB5_dsnoop {
? type dsnoop
? ipc_key 50001
? ipc_key_add_uid false
? ipc_perm 0666
? slave {
??? pcm "SLUSB5"
??? channels 1
??? rate 48000
? }
}
pcm.SLUSB5_dmix {
? type dmix
? ipc_key 60001
? ipc_key_add_uid false
? ipc_perm 0666
? slave {
??? pcm "SLUSB5"
??? channels 1
??? rate 48000
? }
}
pcm.SLUSB5_asym {
? type asym
? capture.pcm "plug:SLUSB5_dsnoop"
? playback.pcm "plug:SLUSB5_dmix"
}

Note that a "rate slave" block used to be required in a .asoundrc for ardopc to work properly but a while back alsa updates enabled removing it and using "rate 48000" within the slave section of the dmix and dsnoop PCM's instead thereby simplifying the .asoundrc a little. Note also that at least in my configuration that last section for the asym required prefacing SLUSB5_dsnoop/dmix with "plug:". It did not work well without it. And for wine to share the Signalink for VARA with everything else required updating the wine registry to make the asym available for use in s/w. Here is a screenshot from the output of "wine regedit":

The ALSAInputDevices and ALSAOutputDevices must be created to specify whatever name was chosen for the asym in $HOME/.asoundrc.

The QtSoundModem.ini file required manual edit to also use the asym:
SndRXDeviceName=SLUSB5_asym
SndTXDeviceName=SLUSB5_asym

The ardopc64 specifies using SLUSB5_asym on the command line and I run it within a wrapper that restarts it when s/w decides to tell it to shutdown after using it.

And of course the Soundcard section of the VARA.ini file also specifies:
Input Device Name=In: SLUSB5_asym
Output Device Name=Out: SLUSB5_asym

As usual with stuff like this YMMV but if it helps at all this is what works for me.

73 de Rich WA3WLH



Re: BBS Forwarding behavior

 

I have a link with Mark's NJ node. It's not a BPQ node, so that's why it's not on the map. His node in NC is BPQ, however.?

73,
Lee K5DAT?

_._,_._,_


Re: QTSoundmodem on Windows XP

 

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I've not tried it, but I suspect it needs a newer version of Qt than will run on XP.

73, John

On 08/06/2024 15:18, Mauro Veiga wrote:

Hello All and John. QTsoundmodem doesn't work on Windows XP?

TIA


Re: BBS Forwarding behavior

 

Wo? I am going to ask a question?

when I leave my ¡°home¡± command info in BPQ in a bbs that I ¡°visit¡±!?

n5dat n2nov ww4bsa n9mel

is most correct to leave ¡°my¡± bbs call there?

n9pno

OR

n5mdt

?my amateur operator
bbs (gate) (neighbor) (next path) that
? ¡°gives¡± me my mail?

I have only one path on ip.

That is what I call my gate. That is also my first hop port. that is my only port.

At this time ip is only port active till I learn more.


it took me a lot of thinking just to ask this question.
George N9pno in Iowa


QTSoundmodem on Windows XP

 

Hello All and John. QTsoundmodem doesn't work on Windows XP?

TIA


Re: BBS Forwarding behavior

 

What confused me, Mark, is that your node in NJ is not shown on the BPQ Node Map so I was looking for errors and routes based on there only being one node. Apparently there is no LOCATOR or other position data for the node in NJ, so it is not shown.? And because of that manually inserting a route to you sends everything to NC.

The other thing that had me confused is the multiple HA listed for you in my WP.? When you connect to someone else' BBS it may or may not ask you for your HOMEBBS, and if you do not set it, then that BBS advertises your HOMEBBS to be that bbs.

Maybe if you allowed your NJ node to be shown on the node map it may clear up some things for a few of us.


Mark