Hi All, I have a BPQ32 install that I would like to get on the 44Net.? I also have an existing ampr-ripd gateway on a seperate Linux box.? I've done some research and come up with the following IPGATEWAY definition.? Before I actually add this to my config file, I'd like those that know this stuff better than I do, to eyeball it and let me know if it is (likely) correct.? I tried a few other IPGATEWAY configs and broke things pretty badly (fortunately I was able to recover from them quickly).? So now, I want to check with you all.
IPGATEWAY
?
Adapter \Device\NPF_{ECDB1154-982B-48D3-A394-785AC42588E3}? # Windows adapter from bpqadapters.exe
IPAddr 10.1.10.12? ? ? ? ? ?# IP address of the BPQ32 switch on my LAN (I do have an allocated 44Net address [44.52.67.2], should this be that or the actual IP?)
IPNetmask 255.255.255.248? ? # Netmask of my AMPRNet allocation
IPPorts 1? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? # BPQ Port I will use for links to IP systems.
?
ROUTE 44.0.0.0/9 44.52.67.1 #With no "local" encap file, I think i need to add this route.? 44.52.67.1 is my 44Net gateway, or do I use it's local LAN address of 10.1.10.5?
ROUTE 44.128.0.0/10 44.52.67.1 #Same here, which IP do I use?
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Do I need a NAT statement for the BPQ box to translate the 44Net address to the LAN address??
If the above is correct (or when the above is correct), I assume it will allow me to make AX/IP connections to other 44Net addresses.
Your expert guidance is appreciated!
-- 73, - Matt, WE1H we1h AT arrl.net https://www.we1h.com
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KISS over TCP (and UDP) support NETROM.
73,
John
On 30/04/2023 03:17, Lee Bengston
wrote:
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Show quoted text
Hmm, it's also possible to set up KISS over TCP interfaces
in BPQ - either as client or server.? Given the KISS over TCP
clients of both BPQ and XR work with software such as
SoundModem and Dire Wolf, I'm betting they are compatible with
each other. Off the top of my head it seems those would be
AX25 only, i.e. no netrom, but that would be "better than
nada".
73,
Lee K5DAT
Hi Lee,?
I'm glad you were able to link up using axtcp, and
I'm happy to say that my connection still works :-)?
I have the port quality set low on the axtcp port so
that my mobile node doesn't upset the netrom network too
much when it comes and goes. It's also a good test of
inp3.?
Now I know thay xrouter and bpq's axtcp
implementations are different, I can work towards adding
bpq's method without breaking mine. It is already
possible for xr to do ax/kiss/tcp using a 'tcp'
interface with protocol=kiss, but I expect that mine and
John's framing methods are different!!
Regards?
Paula?
-------- Original message --------
From: Lee Bengston < kilo5dat@...>
Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2023, 23:14
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [bpq32] AXTCP Links
Hi Paula,
As we found out, the XR and BPQ TCP
implementations are different/incompatible.? Just to
let you know, I do have a link up with G8PZT using
AXTCP (client) on XRLin, K5DAT-5 using port 9394 per
your private correction.
Thanks for the info,
Lee K5DAT
Hi Lee,
In case you (or anyone else :-) are interested, my
XRPi node G8PZT:KIDDER in
the middle of England has an open AXTCP server on
"" port
9393.
It has been in use for many years with Xrouter
clients, but as far as I know
never with BPQ.
So if you want to try it, I'd be interested to
know how you get on.
73, Paula
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lee Bengston" <kilo5dat@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, April 28, 2023 2:43 PM
Subject: [bpq32] AXTCP Links
> Hello to those on the list. I've just moved
to new rural location, and it
> appears my wireless based internet service
does not pass any unsolicited
> communication from the Internet to me. Even
though I am using my own
> router, the port forwarding and ampr-ripd
configurations are moot.
> Therefore I have no AXUDP using 10093, etc.
and no ampret.
>
> Anyone interested in restoring their link
with K5DAT-7 can use AXTCP with
> their side as the slave.? In that case the
map for K5DAT-7 would use this
> format if port 10200 were used:
>
> MAP K5DAT-7 0.0.0.0 TCP-Save 10200 B
>
> Each AXTCP link must use a unique TCP port,
and the slave side, i.e. your
> side, must forward the TCP port in the local
router to the BPQ host. Feel
> free to email me directly to work things out.
If there are further
> questions in general about AXTCP, feel free
to ask them on list.
>
> Unfortunately I don't have a solution for
JNOS and URONODE currently. As I
> recall XRouter supports AXTCP, so it may be a
solution there. When I get
> some time I may try an AXTCP link across the
LAN between BPQ and XRouter..
>
> 73,
> Lee K5DAT
>
>
>
>
>
>
|
Hi Lee, I've just checked the code and it seems xrouter can do "ax25kisstcp" as either server or client, and the full networking stack is available. So it looks like bpq and xrouter might be able to interconnect after all.?
The trouble is, I can't remember how to set it up, and the documentation never got done (I don't think). It needs someone with more patience than me to try it.?
Regards? Paula?
-------- Original message -------- From: Lee Bengston <kilo5dat@...> Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2023, 03:17 To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [bpq32] AXTCP Links Hmm, it's also possible to set up KISS over TCP interfaces in BPQ - either as client or server.? Given the KISS over TCP clients of both BPQ and XR work with software such as SoundModem and Dire Wolf, I'm betting they are compatible with each other. Off the top of my head it seems those would be AX25 only, i.e. no netrom, but that would be "better than nada".
73, Lee K5DAT
Hi Lee,?
I'm glad you were able to link up using axtcp, and I'm happy to say that my connection still works :-)?
I have the port quality set low on the axtcp port so that my mobile node doesn't upset the netrom network too much when it comes and goes. It's also a good test of inp3.?
Now I know thay xrouter and bpq's axtcp implementations are different, I can work towards adding bpq's method without breaking mine. It is already possible for xr to do ax/kiss/tcp using a 'tcp' interface with protocol=kiss, but I expect that mine and John's framing methods are different!!
Regards? Paula?
-------- Original message -------- From: Lee Bengston < kilo5dat@...> Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2023, 23:14 To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [bpq32] AXTCP Links Hi Paula,
As we found out, the XR and BPQ TCP implementations are different/incompatible.? Just to let you know, I do have a link up with G8PZT using AXTCP (client) on XRLin, K5DAT-5 using port 9394 per your private correction.
Thanks for the info, Lee K5DAT
Hi Lee,
In case you (or anyone else :-) are interested, my XRPi node G8PZT:KIDDER in
the middle of England has an open AXTCP server on "" port 9393.
It has been in use for many years with Xrouter clients, but as far as I know
never with BPQ.
So if you want to try it, I'd be interested to know how you get on.
73, Paula
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lee Bengston" <kilo5dat@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, April 28, 2023 2:43 PM
Subject: [bpq32] AXTCP Links
> Hello to those on the list. I've just moved to new rural location, and it
> appears my wireless based internet service does not pass any unsolicited
> communication from the Internet to me. Even though I am using my own
> router, the port forwarding and ampr-ripd configurations are moot.
> Therefore I have no AXUDP using 10093, etc. and no ampret.
>
> Anyone interested in restoring their link with K5DAT-7 can use AXTCP with
> their side as the slave.? In that case the map for K5DAT-7 would use this
> format if port 10200 were used:
>
> MAP K5DAT-7 0.0.0.0 TCP-Save 10200 B
>
> Each AXTCP link must use a unique TCP port, and the slave side, i.e. your
> side, must forward the TCP port in the local router to the BPQ host. Feel
> free to email me directly to work things out. If there are further
> questions in general about AXTCP, feel free to ask them on list.
>
> Unfortunately I don't have a solution for JNOS and URONODE currently. As I
> recall XRouter supports AXTCP, so it may be a solution there. When I get
> some time I may try an AXTCP link across the LAN between BPQ and XRouter..
>
> 73,
> Lee K5DAT
>
>
>
>
>
>
|
Hmm, it's also possible to set up KISS over TCP interfaces in BPQ - either as client or server.? Given the KISS over TCP clients of both BPQ and XR work with software such as SoundModem and Dire Wolf, I'm betting they are compatible with each other. Off the top of my head it seems those would be AX25 only, i.e. no netrom, but that would be "better than nada".
73, Lee K5DAT
Hi Lee,?
I'm glad you were able to link up using axtcp, and I'm happy to say that my connection still works :-)?
I have the port quality set low on the axtcp port so that my mobile node doesn't upset the netrom network too much when it comes and goes. It's also a good test of inp3.?
Now I know thay xrouter and bpq's axtcp implementations are different, I can work towards adding bpq's method without breaking mine. It is already possible for xr to do ax/kiss/tcp using a 'tcp' interface with protocol=kiss, but I expect that mine and John's framing methods are different!!
Regards? Paula?
-------- Original message -------- From: Lee Bengston < kilo5dat@...> Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2023, 23:14 To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [bpq32] AXTCP Links Hi Paula,
As we found out, the XR and BPQ TCP implementations are different/incompatible.? Just to let you know, I do have a link up with G8PZT using AXTCP (client) on XRLin, K5DAT-5 using port 9394 per your private correction.
Thanks for the info, Lee K5DAT
Hi Lee,
In case you (or anyone else :-) are interested, my XRPi node G8PZT:KIDDER in
the middle of England has an open AXTCP server on "" port 9393.
It has been in use for many years with Xrouter clients, but as far as I know
never with BPQ.
So if you want to try it, I'd be interested to know how you get on.
73, Paula
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lee Bengston" <kilo5dat@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, April 28, 2023 2:43 PM
Subject: [bpq32] AXTCP Links
> Hello to those on the list. I've just moved to new rural location, and it
> appears my wireless based internet service does not pass any unsolicited
> communication from the Internet to me. Even though I am using my own
> router, the port forwarding and ampr-ripd configurations are moot.
> Therefore I have no AXUDP using 10093, etc. and no ampret.
>
> Anyone interested in restoring their link with K5DAT-7 can use AXTCP with
> their side as the slave.? In that case the map for K5DAT-7 would use this
> format if port 10200 were used:
>
> MAP K5DAT-7 0.0.0.0 TCP-Save 10200 B
>
> Each AXTCP link must use a unique TCP port, and the slave side, i.e. your
> side, must forward the TCP port in the local router to the BPQ host. Feel
> free to email me directly to work things out. If there are further
> questions in general about AXTCP, feel free to ask them on list.
>
> Unfortunately I don't have a solution for JNOS and URONODE currently. As I
> recall XRouter supports AXTCP, so it may be a solution there. When I get
> some time I may try an AXTCP link across the LAN between BPQ and XRouter..
>
> 73,
> Lee K5DAT
>
>
>
>
>
>
|
Doh, that was supposed to be private mail, sorry everyone for the spam!!?
Sent from my Huawei tablet
-------- Original message -------- From: "Paula via groups.io" <g8pzt@...> Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2023, 02:35 To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [bpq32] AXTCP Links Hi Lee,?
I'm glad you were able to link up using axtcp, and I'm happy to say that my connection still works :-)?
I have the port quality set low on the axtcp port so that my mobile node doesn't upset the netrom network too much when it comes and goes. It's also a good test of inp3.?
Now I know thay xrouter and bpq's axtcp implementations are different, I can work towards adding bpq's method without breaking mine. It is already possible for xr to do ax/kiss/tcp using a 'tcp' interface with protocol=kiss, but I expect that mine and John's framing methods are different!!
Regards? Paula?
-------- Original message -------- From: Lee Bengston <kilo5dat@...> Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2023, 23:14 To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [bpq32] AXTCP Links Hi Paula,
As we found out, the XR and BPQ TCP implementations are different/incompatible.? Just to let you know, I do have a link up with G8PZT using AXTCP (client) on XRLin, K5DAT-5 using port 9394 per your private correction.
Thanks for the info, Lee K5DAT
Hi Lee,
In case you (or anyone else :-) are interested, my XRPi node G8PZT:KIDDER in
the middle of England has an open AXTCP server on "" port 9393.
It has been in use for many years with Xrouter clients, but as far as I know
never with BPQ.
So if you want to try it, I'd be interested to know how you get on.
73, Paula
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lee Bengston" <kilo5dat@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, April 28, 2023 2:43 PM
Subject: [bpq32] AXTCP Links
> Hello to those on the list. I've just moved to new rural location, and it
> appears my wireless based internet service does not pass any unsolicited
> communication from the Internet to me. Even though I am using my own
> router, the port forwarding and ampr-ripd configurations are moot.
> Therefore I have no AXUDP using 10093, etc. and no ampret.
>
> Anyone interested in restoring their link with K5DAT-7 can use AXTCP with
> their side as the slave.? In that case the map for K5DAT-7 would use this
> format if port 10200 were used:
>
> MAP K5DAT-7 0.0.0.0 TCP-Save 10200 B
>
> Each AXTCP link must use a unique TCP port, and the slave side, i.e. your
> side, must forward the TCP port in the local router to the BPQ host. Feel
> free to email me directly to work things out. If there are further
> questions in general about AXTCP, feel free to ask them on list.
>
> Unfortunately I don't have a solution for JNOS and URONODE currently. As I
> recall XRouter supports AXTCP, so it may be a solution there. When I get
> some time I may try an AXTCP link across the LAN between BPQ and XRouter..
>
> 73,
> Lee K5DAT
>
>
>
>
>
>
|
Hi Lee,?
I'm glad you were able to link up using axtcp, and I'm happy to say that my connection still works :-)?
I have the port quality set low on the axtcp port so that my mobile node doesn't upset the netrom network too much when it comes and goes. It's also a good test of inp3.?
Now I know thay xrouter and bpq's axtcp implementations are different, I can work towards adding bpq's method without breaking mine. It is already possible for xr to do ax/kiss/tcp using a 'tcp' interface with protocol=kiss, but I expect that mine and John's framing methods are different!!
Regards? Paula?
-------- Original message -------- From: Lee Bengston <kilo5dat@...> Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2023, 23:14 To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [bpq32] AXTCP Links Hi Paula,
As we found out, the XR and BPQ TCP implementations are different/incompatible.? Just to let you know, I do have a link up with G8PZT using AXTCP (client) on XRLin, K5DAT-5 using port 9394 per your private correction.
Thanks for the info, Lee K5DAT
Hi Lee,
In case you (or anyone else :-) are interested, my XRPi node G8PZT:KIDDER in
the middle of England has an open AXTCP server on "" port 9393.
It has been in use for many years with Xrouter clients, but as far as I know
never with BPQ.
So if you want to try it, I'd be interested to know how you get on.
73, Paula
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lee Bengston" <kilo5dat@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, April 28, 2023 2:43 PM
Subject: [bpq32] AXTCP Links
> Hello to those on the list. I've just moved to new rural location, and it
> appears my wireless based internet service does not pass any unsolicited
> communication from the Internet to me. Even though I am using my own
> router, the port forwarding and ampr-ripd configurations are moot.
> Therefore I have no AXUDP using 10093, etc. and no ampret.
>
> Anyone interested in restoring their link with K5DAT-7 can use AXTCP with
> their side as the slave.? In that case the map for K5DAT-7 would use this
> format if port 10200 were used:
>
> MAP K5DAT-7 0.0.0.0 TCP-Save 10200 B
>
> Each AXTCP link must use a unique TCP port, and the slave side, i.e. your
> side, must forward the TCP port in the local router to the BPQ host. Feel
> free to email me directly to work things out. If there are further
> questions in general about AXTCP, feel free to ask them on list.
>
> Unfortunately I don't have a solution for JNOS and URONODE currently. As I
> recall XRouter supports AXTCP, so it may be a solution there. When I get
> some time I may try an AXTCP link across the LAN between BPQ and XRouter..
>
> 73,
> Lee K5DAT
>
>
>
>
>
>
|
Hi Paula,
As we found out, the XR and BPQ TCP implementations are different/incompatible.? Just to let you know, I do have a link up with G8PZT using AXTCP (client) on XRLin, K5DAT-5 using port 9394 per your private correction.
Thanks for the info, Lee K5DAT
Hi Lee,
In case you (or anyone else :-) are interested, my XRPi node G8PZT:KIDDER in
the middle of England has an open AXTCP server on "" port 9393.
It has been in use for many years with Xrouter clients, but as far as I know
never with BPQ.
So if you want to try it, I'd be interested to know how you get on.
73, Paula
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lee Bengston" <kilo5dat@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, April 28, 2023 2:43 PM
Subject: [bpq32] AXTCP Links
> Hello to those on the list. I've just moved to new rural location, and it
> appears my wireless based internet service does not pass any unsolicited
> communication from the Internet to me. Even though I am using my own
> router, the port forwarding and ampr-ripd configurations are moot.
> Therefore I have no AXUDP using 10093, etc. and no ampret.
>
> Anyone interested in restoring their link with K5DAT-7 can use AXTCP with
> their side as the slave.? In that case the map for K5DAT-7 would use this
> format if port 10200 were used:
>
> MAP K5DAT-7 0.0.0.0 TCP-Save 10200 B
>
> Each AXTCP link must use a unique TCP port, and the slave side, i.e. your
> side, must forward the TCP port in the local router to the BPQ host. Feel
> free to email me directly to work things out. If there are further
> questions in general about AXTCP, feel free to ask them on list.
>
> Unfortunately I don't have a solution for JNOS and URONODE currently. As I
> recall XRouter supports AXTCP, so it may be a solution there. When I get
> some time I may try an AXTCP link across the LAN between BPQ and XRouter..
>
> 73,
> Lee K5DAT
>
>
>
>
>
>
|
Oh well, at least I now know that it doesn't work, and why it doesn't.?
Sent from my Huawei tablet
-------- Original message -------- From: John G8BPQ <john.wiseman@...> Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2023, 19:01 To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [bpq32] AXTCP Links
Yes, I just send kiss encapsulated packets.
73,
John
On 29/04/2023 17:52, Paula via
groups.io wrote:
Hi Red, thank you for the test. I haven't yet
decoded the packet, but I think there's a major difference
between how xrouter and bpq do axtcp.?
I don't know how bpq does it, but in xrouter the server and
client first exchange 17 byte packets to "register" their
callsign and aliases with each other.?
I'd forgotten about that. Doh!?
|
Yes, I just send kiss encapsulated packets.
73,
John
On 29/04/2023 17:52, Paula via
groups.io wrote:
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Show quoted text
Hi Red, thank you for the test. I haven't yet
decoded the packet, but I think there's a major difference
between how xrouter and bpq do axtcp.?
I don't know how bpq does it, but in xrouter the server and
client first exchange 17 byte packets to "register" their
callsign and aliases with each other.?
I'd forgotten about that. Doh!?
|
Hi Red, thank you for the test. I haven't yet decoded the packet, but I think there's a major difference between how xrouter and bpq do axtcp.?
I don't know how bpq does it, but in xrouter the server and client first exchange 17 byte packets to "register" their callsign and aliases with each other.?
I'd forgotten about that. Doh!?
|
I got the DV Switch installed an working with my phone. pretty
neat stuff.
I run 4 raspberry pi's with dmr brandmiester, tgif, d-star an
wires-x
Ray N3HYM
On 4/29/2023 11:10 AM, Lee Bengston
wrote:
To BPQ users that lost a link with K5DAT-7, my node.
I apologize for that - I have moved, and the Internet
access is wireless based with no port forwarding.? Therefore I
can no longer support AXUDP links. Furthermore my amprnet
links were lost as well, and it appears I can no longer
support those also.
As mentioned in another thread, AXTCP works, and the map
below will work for K5DAT-7 if you forward TCP port 10200 from
your router to BPQ.
MAP K5DAT-7 0.0.0.0 TCP-Slave 10200 B
If you would prefer to use a different port, feel free to
email me privately, and I can set it up.? TCP 10093 may not be
a bad choice, especially if your router is already forwarding
both TCP and UDP 10093.
Thanks.
Lee K5DAT
--
Ray
V. Adkins N3HYM©¦ American Red Cross
Disaster Service Technology Team Lead
National
Capital and Greater Chesapeake Region
(240) 674-0568 (Cell)©¦ HH 5743©¦
HOIP 100482
N3HYM.COM ©¦ SHARES NCS270 ©¦WQRP255
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Just made the change
Ray N3HYM
On 4/29/2023 11:10 AM, Lee Bengston
wrote:
MAP
K5DAT-7 0.0.0.0 TCP-Slave 10200 B
--
Ray
V. Adkins N3HYM©¦ American Red Cross
Disaster Service Technology Team Lead
National
Capital and Greater Chesapeake Region
(240) 674-0568 (Cell)©¦ HH 5743©¦
HOIP 100482
N3HYM.COM ©¦ SHARES NCS270 ©¦WQRP255
|
To BPQ users that lost a link with K5DAT-7, my node.
I apologize for that - I have moved, and the Internet access is wireless based with no port forwarding.? Therefore I can no longer support AXUDP links. Furthermore my amprnet links were lost as well, and it appears I can no longer support those also.
As mentioned in another thread, AXTCP works, and the map below will work for K5DAT-7 if you forward TCP port 10200 from your router to BPQ.
MAP K5DAT-7 0.0.0.0 TCP-Slave 10200 B
If you would prefer to use a different port, feel free to email me privately, and I can set it up.? TCP 10093 may not be a bad choice, especially if your router is already forwarding both TCP and UDP 10093.
Thanks. Lee K5DAT
|
Hi Paula,
I am not using Xrouter here but do have several active BPQ AXTCP links where my end is the slave. Outside of my own lab testing I have not had an opportunity to test an external AXTCP link with my end being the master but was intrigued to try given the info you provided. Initial testing shows an exchange of traffic but no BPQ link is established.
Tcpdump on the BPQ system here shows:
09:51:03.600102 IP 192.168.1.139.33155 > brom-11-b2-v4wan-165874-cust330.vm31.cable.virginm.net.9393: Flags [S], seq 3045083897, win 64240, options [mss 1460,sackOK,TS val 1072902549 ecr 0,nop,wscale 7], length 0
09:51:03.718534 IP brom-11-b2-v4wan-165874-cust330.vm31.cable.virginm.net.9393 > 192.168.1.139.33155: Flags [R.], seq 0, ack 3045083898, win 0, length 0
And on my router shows:
13:51:03.596673 IP c-73-165-23-36.hsd1.pa.comcast.net.33155 > brom-11-b2-v4wan-165874-cust330.vm31.cable.virginm.net.9393: Flags [S], seq 3045083897, win 64240, options [mss 1460,sackOK,TS val 1072902549 ecr 0,nop,wscale 7], length 0
13:51:03.712663 IP brom-11-b2-v4wan-165874-cust330.vm31.cable.virginm.net.9393 > c-73-165-23-36.hsd1.pa.comcast.net.33155: Flags [R.], seq 0, ack 3045083898, win 0, length 0
So we are exchanging packets but BPQ so far does not like something...
73 de Rich WA3WLH
|
On Sat, Apr 29, 2023 at 05:10 AM, Paula wrote:
Hi Lee,
In case you (or anyone else :-) are interested, my XRPi node G8PZT:KIDDER in
the middle of England has an open AXTCP server on "g8pzt.noip.me" port 9393.
It has been in use for many years with Xrouter clients, but as far as I know
never with BPQ.
So if you want to try it, I'd be interested to know how you get on.
73, Paula
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lee Bengston" <kilo5dat@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, April 28, 2023 2:43 PM
Subject: [bpq32] AXTCP Links
Hello to those on the list. I've just moved to new rural location, and it
appears my wireless based internet service does not pass any unsolicited
communication from the Internet to me. Even though I am using my own
router, the port forwarding and ampr-ripd configurations are moot.
Therefore I have no AXUDP using 10093, etc. and no ampret.
Anyone interested in restoring their link with K5DAT-7 can use AXTCP with
their side as the slave. In that case the map for K5DAT-7 would use this
format if port 10200 were used:
MAP K5DAT-7 0.0.0.0 TCP-Save 10200 B
Each AXTCP link must use a unique TCP port, and the slave side, i.e. your
side, must forward the TCP port in the local router to the BPQ host. Feel
free to email me directly to work things out. If there are further
questions in general about AXTCP, feel free to ask them on list.
Unfortunately I don't have a solution for JNOS and URONODE currently. As I
recall XRouter supports AXTCP, so it may be a solution there. When I get
some time I may try an AXTCP link across the LAN between BPQ and XRouter..
73,
Lee K5DAT
Hi Paula I was also curious! - does not appear to work, I get an error message from BPQ and this is a packet trace:
15:55:13.375868 IP red.44243 > Paula.9393: Flags [S], seq 653775634, win 64240, options [mss 1460,sackOK,TS val 2610925710 ecr 0,nop,wscale 7], length 0
0x0010: ?5221 414b acd3 24b1 26f7 d312 0000 0000 ?R!AK..$.&.......
0x0020: ?a002 faf0 556d 0000 0204 05b4 0402 080a ?....Um..........
0x0030: ?9b9f 908e 0000 0000 0103 0307 ? ? ? ? ? ?............
15:55:13.415116 IP Paula.9393 > red.44243: Flags [R.], seq 0, ack 653775635, win 0, length 0
0x0000: ?4500 0028 dac7 0000 7406 16ca 5221 414b ?E..(....t...R!AK
0x0010: ?c0a8 012a 24b1 acd3 0000 0000 26f7 d313 ?...*$.......&...
0x0020: ?5014 0000 8f02 0000 0000 0000 0000 ? ? ? P.............
Any clues in this??
73
Red
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Thanks Paula!? I'll try both BPQ and XRouter when I get a chance.
Lee K5DAT?
Hi Lee,
In case you (or anyone else :-) are interested, my XRPi node G8PZT:KIDDER in
the middle of England has an open AXTCP server on "" port 9393.
It has been in use for many years with Xrouter clients, but as far as I know
never with BPQ.
So if you want to try it, I'd be interested to know how you get on.
73, Paula
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lee Bengston" <kilo5dat@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, April 28, 2023 2:43 PM
Subject: [bpq32] AXTCP Links
> Hello to those on the list. I've just moved to new rural location, and it
> appears my wireless based internet service does not pass any unsolicited
> communication from the Internet to me. Even though I am using my own
> router, the port forwarding and ampr-ripd configurations are moot.
> Therefore I have no AXUDP using 10093, etc. and no ampret.
>
> Anyone interested in restoring their link with K5DAT-7 can use AXTCP with
> their side as the slave.? In that case the map for K5DAT-7 would use this
> format if port 10200 were used:
>
> MAP K5DAT-7 0.0.0.0 TCP-Save 10200 B
>
> Each AXTCP link must use a unique TCP port, and the slave side, i.e. your
> side, must forward the TCP port in the local router to the BPQ host. Feel
> free to email me directly to work things out. If there are further
> questions in general about AXTCP, feel free to ask them on list.
>
> Unfortunately I don't have a solution for JNOS and URONODE currently. As I
> recall XRouter supports AXTCP, so it may be a solution there. When I get
> some time I may try an AXTCP link across the LAN between BPQ and XRouter..
>
> 73,
> Lee K5DAT
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Hi Lee,
In case you (or anyone else :-) are interested, my XRPi node G8PZT:KIDDER in the middle of England has an open AXTCP server on "g8pzt.noip.me" port 9393.
It has been in use for many years with Xrouter clients, but as far as I know never with BPQ.
So if you want to try it, I'd be interested to know how you get on.
73, Paula
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Lee Bengston" <kilo5dat@...> To: < [email protected]> Sent: Friday, April 28, 2023 2:43 PM Subject: [bpq32] AXTCP Links Hello to those on the list. I've just moved to new rural location, and it
appears my wireless based internet service does not pass any unsolicited
communication from the Internet to me. Even though I am using my own
router, the port forwarding and ampr-ripd configurations are moot.
Therefore I have no AXUDP using 10093, etc. and no ampret.
Anyone interested in restoring their link with K5DAT-7 can use AXTCP with
their side as the slave. In that case the map for K5DAT-7 would use this
format if port 10200 were used:
MAP K5DAT-7 0.0.0.0 TCP-Save 10200 B
Each AXTCP link must use a unique TCP port, and the slave side, i.e. your
side, must forward the TCP port in the local router to the BPQ host. Feel
free to email me directly to work things out. If there are further
questions in general about AXTCP, feel free to ask them on list.
Unfortunately I don't have a solution for JNOS and URONODE currently. As I
recall XRouter supports AXTCP, so it may be a solution there. When I get
some time I may try an AXTCP link across the LAN between BPQ and XRouter..
73,
Lee K5DAT
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If you want to host more than one TCP-Slave links they must use
different ports, but a TCP-Master can connect to more than one site
using the one port.
73,
John
On 29/04/2023 01:11, PacketCat Red
PE1RRR wrote:
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On Fri, Apr 28, 2023 at 05:03 PM, Lee Bengston wrote:
On Fri, Apr 28, 2023, 6:17
PM PacketCat Red PE1RRR < rrrtuby@...>
wrote:
Hi Lee
Can you do an experiment to see if you can use 10200
outbound to my two nodes and see if they work. It is my
limited understanding that when traversing NAT, the source
port exiting the NAT is randomised, the destination is of
course not. Theoretically unless BPQ is doing something
unexpected, the two outbound links you make to two
different designations on the same port would be treated
as independent of each other.? Good experiment to try, but
if you do try it make sure there¡¯s traffic going through
both at the same time.
If this works it could help simplify TCP-Slave setup for
others.
It¡¯s 100% certain the destination host must have a unique
port open just for your link on their end. 10200 was the
actual upper end of my range I had open for TCP links on
-7, I¡¯ve increased that to 10300 for the future.?
_.,
Great catch. I can use the same port to your
-7? and -5. Both links are up. That does indeed simplify
using AXTCP.? The map I posted can be used by multiple
stations - contrary to what I said earlier.?
?
Lee K5DAT?
Nice one Lee, thanks for confirming- gonna write this down/up
somewhere!?
Would love to see some pics of your new place in rural area,
sounds like a nice move despite the internet situation, lots of
greenery I hope :-)
73
Red
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On Fri, Apr 28, 2023 at 05:03 PM, Lee Bengston wrote:
On Fri, Apr 28, 2023, 6:17 PM PacketCat Red PE1RRR < rrrtuby@...> wrote:
Hi Lee
Can you do an experiment to see if you can use 10200 outbound to my two nodes and see if they work. It is my limited understanding that when traversing NAT, the source port exiting the NAT is randomised, the destination is of course not. Theoretically unless BPQ is doing something unexpected, the two outbound links you make to two different designations on the same port would be treated as independent of each other.? Good experiment to try, but if you do try it make sure there¡¯s traffic going through both at the same time.
If this works it could help simplify TCP-Slave setup for others.
It¡¯s 100% certain the destination host must have a unique port open just for your link on their end. 10200 was the actual upper end of my range I had open for TCP links on -7, I¡¯ve increased that to 10300 for the future.?
_.,
Great catch. I can use the same port to your -7? and -5. Both links are up. That does indeed simplify using AXTCP.? The map I posted can be used by multiple stations - contrary to what I said earlier.?
?
Lee K5DAT?
Nice one Lee, thanks for confirming- gonna write this down/up somewhere!? Would love to see some pics of your new place in rural area, sounds like a nice move despite the internet situation, lots of greenery I hope :-) 73 Red
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On Fri, Apr 28, 2023, 6:17 PM PacketCat Red PE1RRR < rrrtuby@...> wrote:
Hi Lee
Can you do an experiment to see if you can use 10200 outbound to my two nodes and see if they work. It is my limited understanding that when traversing NAT, the source port exiting the NAT is randomised, the destination is of course not. Theoretically unless BPQ is doing something unexpected, the two outbound links you make to two different designations on the same port would be treated as independent of each other.? Good experiment to try, but if you do try it make sure there¡¯s traffic going through both at the same time.
If this works it could help simplify TCP-Slave setup for others.
It¡¯s 100% certain the destination host must have a unique port open just for your link on their end. 10200 was the actual upper end of my range I had open for TCP links on -7, I¡¯ve increased that to 10300 for the future.?
_., Great catch. I can use the same port to your -7? and -5. Both links are up. That does indeed simplify using AXTCP.? The map I posted can be used by multiple stations - contrary to what I said earlier.?
Lee K5DAT?
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Ray Adkins
Red R. R. Tuby (PE1RRR)