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BAA RAZoom Fri. Feb. 2nd. Interferometry - Marcus Leach
Friday Feb. 2nd. 19:30 GMT (19:30 UTC) on Zoom?
Amateur SDR based?interferometry -?hardware and software.??(Getting started) Marcus Leach?President. Canadian Centre for??Experimental?Radio Astronomy The Zoom link will be sent out on Thursday 1st Feb. The session will be recorded for our YouTube channel.? -- ???? Paul Hearn? ???? ?paul@...? ???? ?RA Section Director? ??? |
Muon Detection rates with readily available radiation source at home
开云体育Might interest you all! Andy ? |
Re: Antenna feed return loss
Thanks Peter,
I was trying to keep things simple and not have a feed cable (although I accept even a connector is a short length of 50ohm coax) but had forgotten I had measured the antenna into 50 ohms as would the LNA have been. I think the simplest thing is to accept the hot/ cold system test results and not to try to over analyse the system. The results are better than I expected anyway. Melvyn |
Hi - and I have a 6ft /1.8m parabolic dish to dispose of
Steve G8KHW / AJ4XE
Hi folk - I'm a radio ham and just joined this group because I have a 1.8m, 6 petal aluminium parabolic dish to dispose of.
Obviously of interest for EME and Radio Astronomy. I'm pretty sure it was originally C band. I calculate the f/d as about 0.44 I have a lot of the associated hardware - but I don't have either the feed arms or mounting ring.?? I started to paint the face white - but ran out of paint (RAL9010 cream white). Pictures and data? here: The petals stack and should be easy to get in most cars. The dish is located in Suffolk UK. Drop me line off group if interested. Steve G8KHW |
Polar Aeronomy and Radio Science Summer School (PARS)
Please see the attached .? The 10-day program will be held at the University of Alaska Fairbanks (USA) from August 6-15,?2024?(details attached).??
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will. be accepted through March 31, 2024.??
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Feel free to forward to anyone you think is interested.
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Whit-- Whitham D. Reeve Anchorage, Alaska USA --- |
Re: Antenna feed return loss
It is not easy to give you a satisfactory answer Melvyn.
If you connect your antenna directly to the LNA, then you can almost use ohms law to work out the power loss plus the equivalent loss added noise temperature. Certainly if both the antenna and LNA impedances are purely resistive. But, the manufacturer's LNA noise figure is measured with a 50 ohm resistive source which will change as will its equivalent temperature if the antenna resistance differs from 50 ohms.
It gets a lot more complicated in? real-life cases when both the antenna and LNA impedances contain reactive components and even more complicated if you add a length of 50 ohm transmission line between the antenna and LNA which acts as a length-variable complex impedance transformer.
Reflections only appear on transmission lines because of their variable length-dependent input impedance property when mismatched.
Re your second point - noise figure is measured at nominally 290 deg K and is a measure of the component internally added noise.
Peter
Peter W East
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On 27 Jan 2024, at 14:29, "melvyn.jones via " <gmx.co.uk@groups.io target=_blank>[email protected]> wrote: A question for the RF engineers amongst us. How important the output return loss of the antenna feed. |
Re: GB3MBA receiver network update
Now it's getting quite interesting. No feedback yet from Leicester National Space Centre or university research group. Tony On Sat, 27 Jan 2024 at 10:42, Brian <brian@...> wrote:
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Antenna feed return loss
A question for the RF engineers amongst us. How important the output return loss of the antenna feed.
To my mind if you have an LNA of 75K input noise temperature, as well as adding that noise to the receive signal it will also transmit that noise back towards the antenna where it is radiated out to space. But if the feed has a poor return loss, say 6dB, one quarter of that noise (19K) will be reflected back towards the LNA together with the received signal. So instead of a nominal system noise of 75K it is actually nearer 94K. Is this true?? A second point is the LNA actually has a physical temperature nearer 290K in practice. Is it the 300K or 75K that is radiated outwards to space? Melvyn |
GB3MBA receiver network update
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Hello Folks The receiver located
near the Armagh observatory in Northern Ireland is back on the air
following a more complete installation after the initial trial. So
we now have two of the planned “primary” receivers in the network
operational. Along with the first receiver located at the Norman
Lockyer observatory this enables us to observe meteor echoes from
the
GB3MBA beacon from another perspective. We plan to add the third
receiver in Scotland north of the central belt when a suitable
location has been found. The aim is to be able to study meteor
echoes
with different reflection geometries. The operational receivers
can
be viewed at
. The NW Hampshire receiver is at the build and test location and
is
the one to be deployed to Scotland when a suitable host site has
been
found. Meteor echoes from GB3MBA on 50.408MHz are directional and
polarised so it is important that we are able to make observations
with varied reflection geometries. I would urge anyone interested
in
observing meteors using radio to spend a little time looking the
the
display at the above address. You might be surprised what you will
see which will include very different echo shapes and Doppler
shifts. Meanwhile the team are working on increasing the display
band width,
currently limited to +/- 30Hz and its resolution.
Timing of the echo of events on the display is affected by the
latency through the internet, the first data to be received at the
server bing processed first. But the error usually amounts to no
more than
a second or so. For precise correlation we will be making the raw
data from each receiver available. This will have a bandwidth of
about +/-10KHz and includes timing data with a precision of <
1mS. Below is an example echo seen by all three receivers as I
type
this. Brian |
Reverification e-mail
All members
You may have received an email? about "Reverification" from groups.io. Yes I know this is standard scam procedure, but this is ligitimate. This was triggered by Spamhaus identifying groups.io as spam. Groups.io have advised "On Saturday January 13th, 2024, an anti-spam service called Spamhaus labeled one of our email servers as a spam sender. This caused any email service that uses Spamhaus to stop accepting email from our server. Because of this, we began a reverification process and sent out reverification emails to a subset of our users on Sunday January 14th. Spamhaus lifted their block on Monday, January 15th, 2024, but we need to continue the reverification process." More information is available at? /static/reverifyfaq Not everyone will receive an email from groups.io. Do not worry you may NOT get a request, if you do please follow the instructions. If by the 14th Feb your verification failed in some way your membership will be terminated. I suspect you may well have to go through joining again. If you have trouble please contact me see owner address on the group home Web page. Best regards Andrew Thomas |
Re: Muon Pie website
-- Martyn ---- Andrew Thornett via groups.io wrote ---- Wonderful – thanks Martin! ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
On Behalf Of Martin Bertges via
Sent: 06 January 2024 09:47 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [baa-rag] Muon Pie website ? Hi Andy, -- -- Martyn |
Lesson learnt from yesterday
开云体育Interferometers need hardware bias tees for SAWBird H+ 1420MHz filters with cascaded amplifiers, (which they also need as AD8302 chip requires certain level power input on SMA connectors to work) as no direct connection to power from USB.The SAWBirds do not work if I forget to add bias tees into circuit- what an idiot I am!
Andy
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Re: Zoom meeting for supporting people who would like to try hydrogen line radio observing (1420.405MHz)
This will be the Zoom link to join Andrews H-line meeting...
Join Zoom Meeting Meeting ID: 823 4031 8050 Passcode: 958439 -- ???? Paul Hearn? ???? ?paul@...? ???? ?RA Section Director? ??? |
Brilliant advice on making and testing AD8302 based interferometers
开云体育Hi All
I've received some e fantastic advice on making and testing AD8302 based interferometer and have summarised it on my website and thought I'd share the link here for anyone else interested in attempting
to do this.....
Thanks VERY much to all of you who contributed the advice! Please keep sending it as I really need it!!
Andy
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Zoom meeting for supporting people who would like to try hydrogen line radio observing (1420.405MHz)
开云体育Following responses received, I propose to run this Saturday 10 February @ 1930-2100. Let me know whether this suits or is a problem? Andy |