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Would any one know where to ger a L6 1007 banjo for a quick change gear box ?
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They can often be found on eBay but expect to pay $300+?
If you have access to a mill it would not be a difficult part to make.?
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ya may try these folks , or lost creek machine
animal
On 11/4/24 2:39 PM, Nelson via
groups.io wrote:
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They can often be found on eBay but expect to pay $300+?
If you have access to a mill it would not be a difficult part
to make.?
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I forgot to mention that if ya contact Clausing who bought Atlas Press way way back & they no longer have the part for sale they will send ya a copy of the print so ya can make yer own . Also if ya check in the files section under17 Drawings, Atlas or Craftsman Machine Parts?
there are a bunch of drawigs for lathe parts .
animal
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This is a great Group thank you all !! Regards Steve Liljestrand?
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On Nov 4, 2024, at 9:14?PM, mike allen <animal@...> wrote:
? I forgot to mention that if ya contact Clausing who bought Atlas Press way way back & they no longer have the part for sale they will send ya a copy of the print so ya can make yer own . Also if ya check in the files section under17 Drawings, Atlas or Craftsman Machine Parts?
there are a bunch of drawigs for lathe parts .
animal
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This could be handy; where is this section with drawings Mike?
I also need a banjo but I do not have a mill. So I figured if I could draw up the banjo in CAD, I could split it into layers and have separate pieces of sheet metal laser cut and the, rivet these together to get the profile with slots and grooves.? Any thoughts on this?
I forgot to mention that if ya contact Clausing who bought Atlas Press way way back & they no longer have the part for sale they will send ya a copy of the print so ya can make yer own . Also if ya check in the files section under17 Drawings, Atlas or Craftsman Machine Parts?
there are a bunch of drawigs for lathe parts .
animal
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I am sure someone on the list has a decent mill and could make one for you.
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This could be handy; where is this section with drawings Mike?
I also need a banjo but I do not have a mill. So I figured if I could draw up the banjo in CAD, I could split it into layers and have separate pieces of sheet metal laser cut and the, rivet these together to get the profile with slots and grooves.?
Any thoughts on this?
I forgot to mention that if ya contact Clausing who bought Atlas Press way way back & they no longer have the part for sale they will send ya a copy of the print so ya can make yer own . Also if ya check in the files section under17
Drawings, Atlas or Craftsman Machine Parts?
there
are a bunch of drawigs for lathe parts .
animal
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look in the files section , there's file on the first page I
believe that says 17 Drawings open that one up & there's 3
pages I think & there's at least 1 banjo there , may be more .
animal
On 11/4/24 10:15 PM, Natius van der
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This could be handy; where is this section with
drawings Mike?
I also need a banjo but I do not have a mill. So I figured
if I could draw up the banjo in CAD, I could split it into
layers and have separate pieces of sheet metal laser cut and
the, rivet these together to get the profile with slots and
grooves.?
Any thoughts on this?
I forgot to mention that if ya contact Clausing who
bought Atlas Press way way back & they no longer have
the part for sale they will send ya a copy of the print so
ya can make yer own . Also if ya check in the files section
under17
Drawings, Atlas or Craftsman Machine Parts?
there
are a bunch of drawigs for lathe parts .
animal
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That would be awesome... but shipping it to South Africa will probably cost more than the part...?
I am sure someone on the list has a decent mill and could make one for you.
This could be handy; where is this section with drawings Mike?
I also need a banjo but I do not have a mill. So I figured if I could draw up the banjo in CAD, I could split it into layers and have separate pieces of sheet metal laser cut and the, rivet these together to get the profile with slots and grooves.?
Any thoughts on this?
I forgot to mention that if ya contact Clausing who bought Atlas Press way way back & they no longer have the part for sale they will send ya a copy of the print so ya can make yer own . Also if ya check in the files section under17
Drawings, Atlas or Craftsman Machine Parts?
there
are a bunch of drawigs for lathe parts .
animal
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interesting , any story on how yer lathe made it all the way over
there ?
thanks
animal
On 11/4/24 11:03 PM, Natius van der
Watt wrote:
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That would be awesome... but shipping it to South
Africa will probably cost more than the part...?
I am sure someone on the list has a decent
mill and could make one for you.
This could be handy; where is this section
with drawings Mike?
I also need a banjo but I do not have a mill. So I
figured if I could draw up the banjo in CAD, I could
split it into layers and have separate pieces of sheet
metal laser cut and the, rivet these together to get
the profile with slots and grooves.?
Any thoughts on this?
I forgot to mention that if ya contact Clausing
who bought Atlas Press way way back & they no
longer have the part for sale they will send ya a
copy of the print so ya can make yer own . Also if
ya check in the files section under17
Drawings, Atlas or Craftsman Machine Parts?
there
are a bunch of drawigs for lathe parts .
animal
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Thank you Mike, I will have a look.
look in the files section , there's file on the first page I
believe that says 17 Drawings open that one up & there's 3
pages I think & there's at least 1 banjo there , may be more .
animal
On 11/4/24 10:15 PM, Natius van der
Watt wrote:
This could be handy; where is this section with
drawings Mike?
I also need a banjo but I do not have a mill. So I figured
if I could draw up the banjo in CAD, I could split it into
layers and have separate pieces of sheet metal laser cut and
the, rivet these together to get the profile with slots and
grooves.?
Any thoughts on this?
I forgot to mention that if ya contact Clausing who
bought Atlas Press way way back & they no longer have
the part for sale they will send ya a copy of the print so
ya can make yer own . Also if ya check in the files section
under17
Drawings, Atlas or Craftsman Machine Parts?
there
are a bunch of drawigs for lathe parts .
animal
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I gotta be loosing it , I could have sworn that I saw one in
there . I'll look again when I'm a bit fresher
animal
On 11/4/24 11:03 PM, Natius van der
Watt wrote:
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That would be awesome... but shipping it to South
Africa will probably cost more than the part...?
I am sure someone on the list has a decent
mill and could make one for you.
This could be handy; where is this section
with drawings Mike?
I also need a banjo but I do not have a mill. So I
figured if I could draw up the banjo in CAD, I could
split it into layers and have separate pieces of sheet
metal laser cut and the, rivet these together to get
the profile with slots and grooves.?
Any thoughts on this?
I forgot to mention that if ya contact Clausing
who bought Atlas Press way way back & they no
longer have the part for sale they will send ya a
copy of the print so ya can make yer own . Also if
ya check in the files section under17
Drawings, Atlas or Craftsman Machine Parts?
there
are a bunch of drawigs for lathe parts .
animal
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Back before milling machines became common, such things were sawn out by hand, or cast in iron, brass, or even aluminum, then filed or chiseled out. Look at some of the old books on what was called "benchwork" for how it was done, and the tools used. Burghardt was one of the authors who wrote about it in the late 19th & early 20th Century.
https://archive.org/details/dli.scoerat.6140machinetooloperationpart1/page/n9/mode/2up has a section describing use of chisels for "chipping" and filing, and in the Bench Work section.
https://archive.org/details/machineshoptools00leonrich/page/n9/mode/2up another from the 19th century...
Cutting from sheet metal, and riveting would work, too. Laser, or jigsaw, or hacksaw & filing g...??
Could also 3D print something. Or use the print as a pattern to cast in sand or investment. Lots of ways to get where you want to be.
Bill in OKC?
William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)
Aphorisms to live by: Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement.? SEMPER GUMBY!
Expect in one hand, expectorate in the other. See which one gets full first.
On Tuesday, November 5, 2024 at 12:15:46 AM CST, Natius van der Watt <vnatius@...> wrote:
This could be handy; where is this section with drawings Mike?
I also need a banjo but I do not have a mill. So I figured if I could draw up the banjo in CAD, I could split it into layers and have separate pieces of sheet metal laser cut and the, rivet these together to get the profile with slots and grooves.? Any thoughts on this?
I forgot to mention that if ya contact Clausing who bought Atlas Press way way back & they no longer have the part for sale they will send ya a copy of the print so ya can make yer own . Also if ya check in the files section under17 Drawings, Atlas or Craftsman Machine Parts?
there are a bunch of drawigs for lathe parts .
animal
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I believe we have, or maybe had, another member from South Africa, so help might be closer than you think. If not, look for a shop that makes castings for other purposes. Check out some of the other groups, too. There are groups on 3D printing, metal casting, and even art metal or jewelry making...?
And good luck!
Bill in OKC?
William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)
Aphorisms to live by: Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement.? SEMPER GUMBY!
Expect in one hand, expectorate in the other. See which one gets full first.
On Tuesday, November 5, 2024 at 01:04:04 AM CST, Natius van der Watt <vnatius@...> wrote:
That would be awesome... but shipping it to South Africa will probably cost more than the part...?
I am sure someone on the list has a decent mill and could make one for you.
This could be handy; where is this section with drawings Mike?
I also need a banjo but I do not have a mill. So I figured if I could draw up the banjo in CAD, I could split it into layers and have separate pieces of sheet metal laser cut and the, rivet these together to get the profile with slots and grooves.?
Any thoughts on this?
I forgot to mention that if ya contact Clausing who bought Atlas Press way way back & they no longer have the part for sale they will send ya a copy of the print so ya can make yer own . Also if ya check in the files section under17
Drawings, Atlas or Craftsman Machine Parts?
there
are a bunch of drawigs for lathe parts .
animal
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Your guess is as good as mine. Bought it off a guy who's father passed away; was covered in about a gallon of grease, missing change gears, broken travers housing and most of the reverse gearbox gears missing. Got it for a decent price and the ways & lead screw look remarkably good. Had the?spindle out and the bearings also look ok. Still the original motor that runs well and I replaced the pulley on the spindle using an eBay part (shipping and duties was exactly the same price as the part...)? I have not been able to cut a long and straight?part to see how bad the?wear is so time will tell if I bought a lemon.? ?
interesting , any story on how yer lathe made it all the way over
there ?
thanks
animal
On 11/4/24 11:03 PM, Natius van der
Watt wrote:
That would be awesome... but shipping it to South
Africa will probably cost more than the part...?
I am sure someone on the list has a decent
mill and could make one for you.
This could be handy; where is this section
with drawings Mike?
I also need a banjo but I do not have a mill. So I
figured if I could draw up the banjo in CAD, I could
split it into layers and have separate pieces of sheet
metal laser cut and the, rivet these together to get
the profile with slots and grooves.?
Any thoughts on this?
I forgot to mention that if ya contact Clausing
who bought Atlas Press way way back & they no
longer have the part for sale they will send ya a
copy of the print so ya can make yer own . Also if
ya check in the files section under17
Drawings, Atlas or Craftsman Machine Parts?
there
are a bunch of drawigs for lathe parts .
animal
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Hi Bill
I had the travers housing and reverse gears printed in metal like I said I planned to do. I am not happy with the quality/finish though; not sure if it was the chinesium manufacturing or the technology that is the culprit as I am getting conflicting?information. I have installed the parts but yet to cut anything since so I am holding off on sharing my CAD and experience until I have a couple of cuts made.?
Fo anyone interested; I took Bill's diagram from a couple of years ago and created a CAD model out of it. His was the only model that fit my lathe; many others' did not for some reason. Happy to share with anyone; I printed it in plastic?to gauge fit and it looked good. My aluminium printed version resulted in more backlash on the carriage?hand wheel than expected even though neither the rack or the gear seems to have a lot of wear. What is normal here? I have something like 1/5th of a turn before?it engages...?
On Tue, 5 Nov 2024 at 09:14, Bill in OKC too via <wmrmeyers= [email protected]> wrote: Back before milling machines became common, such things were sawn out by hand, or cast in iron, brass, or even aluminum, then filed or chiseled out. Look at some of the old books on what was called "benchwork" for how it was done, and the tools used. Burghardt was one of the authors who wrote about it in the late 19th & early 20th Century.
has a section describing use of chisels for "chipping" and filing, and in the Bench Work section.
another from the 19th century...
Cutting from sheet metal, and riveting would work, too. Laser, or jigsaw, or hacksaw & filing g...??
Could also 3D print something. Or use the print as a pattern to cast in sand or investment. Lots of ways to get where you want to be.
Bill in OKC?
William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)
Aphorisms to live by: Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement.? SEMPER GUMBY!
Expect in one hand, expectorate in the other. See which one gets full first.
On Tuesday, November 5, 2024 at 12:15:46 AM CST, Natius van der Watt < vnatius@...> wrote:
This could be handy; where is this section with drawings Mike?
I also need a banjo but I do not have a mill. So I figured if I could draw up the banjo in CAD, I could split it into layers and have separate pieces of sheet metal laser cut and the, rivet these together to get the profile with slots and grooves.? Any thoughts on this? I forgot to mention that if ya contact Clausing who bought Atlas Press way way back & they no longer have the part for sale they will send ya a copy of the print so ya can make yer own . Also if ya check in the files section under17 Drawings, Atlas or Craftsman Machine Parts?
there are a bunch of drawigs for lathe parts .
animal
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I’m not familiar with part numbers, but I have one for and Atlas Clausing 12X36 gathering dust. Where would I find out if this is what you can use?
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John W
Camp Verde, AZ USA
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Thank you all for your help.
On Tue, Nov 5, 2024, 9:58?AM John W. via <firearms_engraving= [email protected]> wrote: I’m not familiar with part numbers, but I have one for and Atlas Clausing 12X36 gathering dust. Where would I find out if this is what you can use?
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John W
Camp Verde, AZ USA
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Bill in OKC too
John W.