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My new-to-me Craftsman 101.28910...
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Wow, what a beautiful, clean looking lathe and shop area you have. You need to get it a little dirty looking, little chips, dust, not really. I’m very jealous.
What a super idea to use a stainless steel, commercial table like that to put a machine on. I hope you make a lot of chips and have a good experience with your new machine.
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开云体育It’s what most of us hope for, if we live that long.?Lol On Aug 9, 2024, at 9:30?AM, Lbrewer42 via groups.io <lbrewer_42@...> wrote:
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Thanks for the nice comments!! The stainless-steel table is nice but not heavy enough and is just a temporary resting place until I can find of fabricate a heavier steel table. This kinda "fell in my lap" with no notice and it is very complete with a lot of accessories so it's going to be a fun winter project!!
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开云体育It would be a fun project to fabricate a stand, but I’ve been thinking a 72” tool chest would be a good choice. Mobile, nice and heavy, and great storage underneath..downside is more $$ and perhaps a challenge to reduce twist in lathe bed?
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I have one of my lathes on top of a US General 42-inch tool box from Harbor Freight. I added a top that is 3/8" steel plate that covers the entire top of the lathe. The lathe is bolted to the steel plate and can be shimmed to avoid any twist.?
The 72-inch tool box is probably overkill and too wide. Measure your lathe and match it to the box as well as possible. A shorter box will be more rigid.?
From:[email protected] on behalf of David Ghilarducci via groups.io Sent:?Tuesday, August 13, 2024 11:41 AM To:[email protected] Subject:?Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] My new-to-me Craftsman 101.28910... It would be a fun project to fabricate a stand, but I’ve been thinking a 72” tool chest would be a good choice. Mobile, nice and heavy, and great storage underneath..downside is more $$ and perhaps a challenge to reduce twist in lathe bed?
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开云体育No. The 21x42 plate is pretty heavy (88 pounds) and it is just resting on top of the box. I could drill a few holes and fasten it, but I never had any reason to do so.
I have a smaller lathe set up on top of a 29" Kennedy tool box (18x28) I used a 1/2" plate there. It was such overkill, so I went to 3/8" for the bigger box. The 1/2" plate is 76 pounds.
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of David Ghilarducci via groups.io <daveghil@...>
Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2024 12:16:39 PM To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] My new-to-me Craftsman 101.28910... Thanks…wondering..did you fasten the plate to the box?
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开云体育Can ya get a solid core door & cut it to fit under the stainless table top? & then mount it to the legs ? animal On 8/13/24 8:27 AM, burgie@...
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开云体育A good, solid door is 175 and you still end up with a diy hack job. The u.s. general 42 inch cabinet can be had for 480 on coupon day (20% off) or 432 if you also open a credit card on the same purchase (10% off the entire purchase that day).
These are a beast. One of the guys in my machinist club has had one under his lathe for the past 20 years.
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of mike allen <animal@...>
Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2024 11:23:49 PM To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] My new-to-me Craftsman 101.28910... ?
Can ya get a solid core door & cut it to fit under the stainless table top? & then mount it to the legs ? animal On 8/13/24 8:27 AM,
burgie@... wrote:
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开云体育??? At one of the startup companies i worked for in the last century we scrounged for a lot of things . One of the things that someone brought in was a stainless table from a old commercial kitchen . I needed a place to mount a vise & I took that table flipped it over & pulled the legs & mounting setup & bought a cheap slab interior door & trimmed it to fit inside the bottom of the table & secured the stainless top to the door & attached the legs & bolted my vise to the table . We used that table for several years . Back then I don't think I paid much more than 60 bucks for the door . Last interior solid core slab I bought was @ 100 bucks . I have no idea where they are at the big box stores . If there's a Habitat for Humanity place in the area they can be a source for solid doors sometimes . ??? animal On 8/13/24 10:22 PM, Andrei wrote:
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开云体育Indeed, a repurposed door might be affordable. Real doors allow are special order at the big box stores. All you normally get are those cheesy Masonite doors with Styrofoam blocks glued inside. You sneeze on it and you punch a hole.
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of mike allen <animal@...>
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2024 5:10:49 PM To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] My new-to-me Craftsman 101.28910... ?
??? At one of the startup companies i worked for in the last century we scrounged for a lot of things . One of the things that someone brought in was a stainless table from a old commercial kitchen . I needed a place to mount a vise & I took that table flipped it over & pulled the legs & mounting setup & bought a cheap slab interior door & trimmed it to fit inside the bottom of the table & secured the stainless top to the door & attached the legs & bolted my vise to the table . We used that table for several years . Back then I don't think I paid much more than 60 bucks for the door . Last interior solid core slab I bought was @ 100 bucks . I have no idea where they are at the big box stores . If there's a Habitat for Humanity place in the area they can be a source for solid doors sometimes . ??? animal On 8/13/24 10:22 PM, Andrei wrote:
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开云体育Yep , I have 2 30 " slab doors that I had? been using for bench
tops in my new place for several years now & there's a 36 "
slab on top of a bench I made for my South Bend lathe that has
been in use since I got that lathe many years ago . No signs of
any fatigue , their just not as off white as they used to be . I
just cut one of the 30" doors down to fit in a inset area in my
new machine room for my electronics stuff . animal On 8/14/24 2:36 PM, Andrei wrote:
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开云体育This is speculation from what I remember about restaurant tables, but I would want to take a look at rigidity. The sheet metal top is not that thick and it lays over some sub-structure. Those tables can hold a lot of weight, but are they designed to resist twisting? It seems to me that cutting forces could induce some bed twist that would be transferred to the table that the table could not resist. My expectation would be an increased risk of chatter.The table could be strengthened from underneath in the event it becomes an issue. On 8/9/2024 11:04 AM, Payson via
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Unless you are repurposing stuff you have on hand, there is no reason to go that way.?
A stainless kitchen prep table that is about 6 feet long will set you back $350 bucks. These tables are flimsy, for machining purposes, but they can hold weight with some wobble because the legs are straight tubes held with two Allen-keyed set screws pressing
on the OD. I owned 5 restaurants and I am extremely familiar with these tables. Stay away from them.?
The solid door, if bought new will set you back $175.
Add the labor, the fasteners, the incidentals and you still end up with a an expensive DIY hack that partially fills your need.?
The 42" rolling cabinet from US General is $480 on coupon day and comes with a boat load of ball-bearing drawers where you can store your tooling and more.?
An alternative would be one of those countertop tables from places like Global Industrial or Uline. They come with a very heavy 1.5" thick top made either of a hardwood, shop top material, or some pressed wood crap sheeted in thin steel. The butcher block in
lengths less than 6 feet can hold a South Bend 9a or a 10–12-inch Atlas with ease. It will still cost 600 bucks, plus 150 for delivery, plus it has no drawers.?
Again: if you already own the stuff, see if you can repurpose it, because you can't beat free. However, if you don't, then the ready-made alternatives are better and they are not that much more expensive, plus they will be fit for your purpose and not a somewhat
acceptable alternative.?
This is my 2 cents ($27.50 after the inflation is applied).
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Mike Poore <mpoore10@...>
Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2024 10:40 AM To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] My new-to-me Craftsman 101.28910... ?
This is speculation from what I remember about restaurant tables, but I would want to take a look at rigidity. The sheet metal top is not that thick and it lays over some sub-structure. Those tables can hold a lot of weight, but are they designed to resist
twisting? It seems to me that cutting forces could induce some bed twist that would be transferred to the table that the table could not resist. My expectation would be an increased risk of chatter. The table could be strengthened from underneath in the event it becomes an issue. On 8/9/2024 11:04 AM, Payson via groups.io wrote:
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开云体育Home Depot & Lowe’s also sell butcher block countertops.?Ray On Aug 15, 2024, at 9:54?AM, Steven H via groups.io <stevesmachining@...> wrote:
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Oh, I forgot to mention these neat features of Harbor Freight:
On coupon day, you get 20% off of any one item in your order. The coupon is reusable the next day.?
Best feature is that at the time of your order, if you apply and are approved for the HF credit card, they take an additional 10% off of your ENTIRE order.
Plus, the credit card carries ZERO PERCENT interest until you pay the item off.?
So:
$599.00 - 20% = $479.20
$479.20 - 10% = $431.28
And if you pay this over an entire year the monthly payment is $35.98
I think we can all swing 36 bucks a month to get a new rolling cabinet.?
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Ray Daniels via groups.io <rmdaniels47@...>
Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2024 1:48 PM To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] My new-to-me Craftsman 101.28910... ?
Home Depot & Lowe’s also sell butcher block countertops.?
Ray
On Aug 15, 2024, at 9:54?AM, Steven H via groups.io <stevesmachining@...> wrote:
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