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Hello all! Has anyone done an electronic lead screw conversion on their atlas lathes?
If so can you show some pics of the project. I’m looking to add one but seam a bit complicated with all the electronics.
Thank you!
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Have, yes… installed – no.? ? But boy do I want it… But a bathroom remodel has taken precedence. ? The real issue is mounting the motor in a convenient place and getting it connected.? The plan is to use a timing belt and a 2:1 or 3:1 reduction from the ELS motor. ? I got a Step direction integrated servo.? So power and a few signals is all that’s needed to the motor and of course the encoder to the spindle.? ? Directions are good but you need to be able to solder and depending on the computer used, it can be a little daunting to get it programmed.? ? Greg
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Rui, my Craftsman 12x36 has a direct drive motorized Z axis. Not sure what you mean by "all the electronics"? Eventually I might get around to doing a motorized X axis.
The hardest part is deciding how you are going to motorize the axis, and implementing your decision.
It took me years after following all of the discussions?on the web to actually?doing it.
Let me know any questions you might have or if you just want encouragement.?
I did it all by myself without anyone to talk to, that made it tough. Until I got to the programming part where I got some great help.
Once you get the motor mounted I have a great stand alone program for motorizing an axis.
Hello all! Has anyone done an electronic lead screw conversion on their atlas lathes?
If so can you show some pics of the project. I’m looking to add one but seam a bit complicated with all the electronics.
Thank you!
|
I have been watching some YouTube and there is on system some guy made and he had all kinds of programmable boards on it. Seemed very complicated but he apparently has all the parts for sale to the public just don’t know how I would program the boards… I’m just a hobbyist?
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On Jan 23, 2024, at 1:25?PM, Ralph Hulslander <rhulslander@...> wrote:
? Rui, my Craftsman 12x36 has a direct drive motorized Z axis. Not sure what you mean by "all the electronics"? Eventually I might get around to doing a motorized X axis.
The hardest part is deciding how you are going to motorize the axis, and implementing your decision.
It took me years after following all of the discussions?on the web to actually?doing it.
Let me know any questions you might have or if you just want encouragement.?
I did it all by myself without anyone to talk to, that made it tough. Until I got to the programming part where I got some great help.
Once you get the motor mounted I have a great stand alone program for motorizing an axis.
Hello all! Has anyone done an electronic lead screw conversion on their atlas lathes?
If so can you show some pics of the project. I’m looking to add one but seam a bit complicated with all the electronics.
Thank you!
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Is that the els by James Clough? I have been watching his videos…
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On Jan 23, 2024, at 1:05?PM, Greg via groups.io <gregj@...> wrote:
? Have, yes… installed – no.? ? But boy do I want it… But a bathroom remodel has taken precedence. ? The real issue is mounting the motor in a convenient place and getting it connected.? The plan is to use a timing belt and a 2:1 or 3:1 reduction from the ELS motor. ? I got a Step direction integrated servo.? So power and a few signals is all that’s needed to the motor and of course the encoder to the spindle.? ? Directions are good but you need to be able to solder and depending on the computer used, it can be a little daunting to get it programmed.? ? Greg <20230207_141400.jpg>
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??? ??? This ones probably one of the simplest ones I've seen
& seems to do everything . It's a free group & the folks
that designed it are in the group & help is not far away .
pretty sure if I do one it's gonna be this one . Info is in the
files section .
??? /g/AtomicELS
??? animal
On 1/23/24 12:28 PM, Rui Dantas via
groups.io wrote:
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I have been watching some YouTube and there is on system some guy
made and he had all kinds of programmable boards on it. Seemed
very complicated but he apparently has all the parts for sale to
the public just don’t know how I would program the boards… I’m
just a hobbyist?
?
Rui, my Craftsman 12x36 has a direct drive
motorized Z axis. Not sure what you mean by "all the
electronics"?
Eventually I might get around to doing a motorized X
axis.
The hardest part is deciding how you are going to
motorize the axis, and implementing your decision.
It took me years after following all of the
discussions?on the web to actually?doing it.
Let me know any questions you might have or if you just
want encouragement.?
I did it all by myself without anyone to talk to, that
made it tough.
Until I got to the programming part where I got some
great help.
Once you get the motor mounted I have a great stand
alone program for motorizing an axis.
Hello
all! Has anyone done an electronic lead screw conversion
on their atlas lathes?
If so can you show some pics of the project. I’m looking
to add one but seam a bit complicated with all the
electronics.
Thank you!
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Yes...
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-------- Original message -------- From: "Rui Dantas via groups.io" <rudantas@...> Date: 1/23/24 12:29 PM (GMT-08:00) Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] ELS conversion
Is that the els by James Clough? I have been watching his videos… On Jan 23, 2024, at 1:05?PM, Greg via groups.io <gregj@...> wrote:
? Have, yes… installed – no.? ? But boy do I want it… But a bathroom remodel has taken precedence. ? The real issue is mounting the motor in a convenient place and getting it connected.? The plan is to use a timing belt and a 2:1 or 3:1 reduction from the ELS motor. ? I got a Step direction integrated servo.? So power and a few signals is all that’s needed to the motor and of course the encoder to the spindle.? ? Directions are good but you need to be able to solder and depending on the computer used, it can be a little daunting to get it programmed.? ? Greg <20230207_141400.jpg>
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Thanks Mike!! AtomicELS does not use the X axis, I am intending to add the X axis but could use a lot of help. I have a really?good program for moving an axis that JIm Larsen wrote (and I modified) on the Accelstepper?forum. The Accelstepper forum is currently banned, too bad it is a great resource.? Ralph
On Tue, Jan 23, 2024 at 3:42?PM mike allen < animal@...> wrote:
??? ??? This ones probably one of the simplest ones I've seen
& seems to do everything . It's a free group & the folks
that designed it are in the group & help is not far away .
pretty sure if I do one it's gonna be this one . Info is in the
files section .
??? /g/AtomicELS
??? animal
On 1/23/24 12:28 PM, Rui Dantas via
wrote:
I have been watching some YouTube and there is on system some guy
made and he had all kinds of programmable boards on it. Seemed
very complicated but he apparently has all the parts for sale to
the public just don’t know how I would program the boards… I’m
just a hobbyist?
?
Rui, my Craftsman 12x36 has a direct drive
motorized Z axis. Not sure what you mean by "all the
electronics"?
Eventually I might get around to doing a motorized X
axis.
The hardest part is deciding how you are going to
motorize the axis, and implementing your decision.
It took me years after following all of the
discussions?on the web to actually?doing it.
Let me know any questions you might have or if you just
want encouragement.?
I did it all by myself without anyone to talk to, that
made it tough.
Until I got to the programming part where I got some
great help.
Once you get the motor mounted I have a great stand
alone program for motorizing an axis.
Hello
all! Has anyone done an electronic lead screw conversion
on their atlas lathes?
If so can you show some pics of the project. I’m looking
to add one but seam a bit complicated with all the
electronics.
Thank you!
|
There has been a loot of discussion on this at /g/E-LeadscrewDepending on what parts of the original system that you have you can replace the arm that the change gears go on with a motor mound and a couple of toothed belts, some have mounted the motor on the tailstock end. I would recommend the belt because it prevents a bunch of potential problems and also gives you a misalignment coupler? and the reduction.
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Why is the Accellstepper forum banned ?
thanks
animal
On 1/23/24 2:58 PM, Ralph Hulslander
wrote:
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Thanks Mike!! AtomicELS does not use the X axis, I
am intending to add the X axis but could use a lot of help.
I have a really?good program for moving an axis that JIm
Larsen wrote (and I modified) on the Accelstepper?forum.
The Accelstepper forum is currently banned, too bad it is a
great resource.?
Ralph
On Tue, Jan 23, 2024 at
3:42?PM mike allen < animal@...>
wrote:
??? ??? This ones probably one of the simplest ones I've
seen & seems to do everything . It's a free group
& the folks that designed it are in the group &
help is not far away . pretty sure if I do one it's gonna
be this one . Info is in the files section .
??? /g/AtomicELS
??? animal
On 1/23/24 12:28 PM, Rui Dantas via wrote:
I have been watching some YouTube
and there is on system some guy made and he had all kinds
of programmable boards on it. Seemed very complicated but
he apparently has all the parts for sale to the public
just don’t know how I would program the boards… I’m just a
hobbyist?
?
Rui, my Craftsman 12x36 has a direct
drive motorized Z axis. Not sure what you mean by
"all the electronics"?
Eventually I might get around to doing a
motorized X axis.
The hardest part is deciding how you are going
to motorize the axis, and implementing your
decision.
It took me years after following all of the
discussions?on the web to actually?doing it.
Let me know any questions you might have or if
you just want encouragement.?
I did it all by myself without anyone to talk
to, that made it tough.
Until I got to the programming part where I got
some great help.
Once you get the motor mounted I have a great
stand alone program for motorizing an axis.
Hello
all! Has anyone done an electronic lead screw
conversion on their atlas lathes?
If so can you show some pics of the project. I’m
looking to add one but seam a bit complicated with
all the electronics.
Thank you!
|
Rui, ? Back home and can respond a bit better.? ??Yes, mine is the Clough ELS. ? If I have to? explain this it will get technical real fast but Clough uses a TI microprocessor that is designed for motion control.? Seems to be well thought out and was simple for me to build.? You program it from your PC and the directions are pretty good with good You-tube? How-Tos.? For instance the TI processor has subsystems for the encoder inputs… Arduinos have to brute force it. ? That said, my degree is in CS and I am an old E-tech and electrician (can’t hold a job I guess).? So while I didn’t need them I have a decent DSO and meter(s), bench supplies and so on and do know how to use them. ? If you aren’t fluent in Arduino, then there won’t be much difference between this and the Atomic as far as difficulty.? The big question is can you follow directions and can you solder fairly modern electronics? ?Modern would be surface mount and that’s different… easier IMHO but different tools. ? I looked at all the ELS options I could find and thought the Clough was the best option for me with likely the highest RPM limit…? as always YMMV. ? ? Greg
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Greg? I can soldier pretty good but all the tech stuff has my head spinning as I grew up in the 80’s and do not have any experience with that. Putting the components together should not be a problem for me at all and am looking forward to it. The programming however is going to be my challenge. I have seen all of Clough’s videos and think this is the system I would want to go with. Is there other systems that are plug and play? Thank you by the way for your advice!
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On Jan 23, 2024, at 7:37?PM, Greg via groups.io <gregj@...> wrote:
? Rui, ? Back home and can respond a bit better.? ??Yes, mine is the Clough ELS. ? If I have to? explain this it will get technical real fast but Clough uses a TI microprocessor that is designed for motion control.? Seems to be well thought out and was simple for me to build.? You program it from your PC and the directions are pretty good with good You-tube? How-Tos.? For instance the TI processor has subsystems for the encoder inputs… Arduinos have to brute force it. ? That said, my degree is in CS and I am an old E-tech and electrician (can’t hold a job I guess).? So while I didn’t need them I have a decent DSO and meter(s), bench supplies and so on and do know how to use them. ? If you aren’t fluent in Arduino, then there won’t be much difference between this and the Atomic as far as difficulty.? The big question is can you follow directions and can you solder fairly modern electronics? ?Modern would be surface mount and that’s different… easier IMHO but different tools. ? I looked at all the ELS options I could find and thought the Clough was the best option for me with likely the highest RPM limit…? as always YMMV. ? ? Greg
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yea there this one , the electronics are all done ya just have to
plug things in , A guy on one of the groups here? got one , if its
this group maybe he'll chime in .
animal
On 1/23/24 6:19 PM, Rui Dantas via
groups.io wrote:
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Greg?
I can soldier pretty good but all the tech stuff has my head
spinning as I grew up in the 80’s and do not have any experience
with that. Putting the components together should not be a
problem for me at all and am looking forward to it. The
programming however is going to be my challenge. I have seen all
of Clough’s videos and think this is the system I would want to
go with.
Is there other systems that are plug and play?
Thank you by the way for your advice!
On Jan 23, 2024, at 7:37?PM, Greg via
groups.io <gregj@...> wrote:
?
Rui,
?
Back home and can respond a bit
better.? ??Yes, mine is the Clough ELS.
?
If I have to? explain this it will
get technical real fast but Clough uses a TI
microprocessor that is designed for motion control.?
Seems to be well thought out and was simple for me to
build.? You program it from your PC and the directions
are pretty good with good You-tube? How-Tos.? For
instance the TI processor has subsystems for the encoder
inputs… Arduinos have to brute force it.
?
That said, my degree is in CS and I
am an old E-tech and electrician (can’t hold a job I
guess).? So while I didn’t need them I have a decent DSO
and meter(s), bench supplies and so on and do know how
to use them.
?
If you aren’t fluent in Arduino, then
there won’t be much difference between this and the
Atomic as far as difficulty.? The big question is can
you follow directions and can you solder fairly modern
electronics? ?Modern would be surface mount and that’s
different… easier IMHO but different tools.
?
I looked at all the ELS options I
could find and thought the Clough was the best option
for me with likely the highest RPM limit…? as always
YMMV.
?
?
Greg
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Got ahead of myself , theres a bunch of Tubes about the
Rocketronics .
animal
On 1/23/24 6:33 PM, Mike Allen wrote:
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yea there this one , the electronics are all done ya just have
to plug things in , A guy on one of the groups here? got one ,
if its this group maybe he'll chime in .
animal
On 1/23/24 6:19 PM, Rui Dantas via
groups.io wrote:
Greg?
I can soldier pretty good but all the tech stuff has my
head spinning as I grew up in the 80’s and do not have any
experience with that. Putting the components together should
not be a problem for me at all and am looking forward to it.
The programming however is going to be my challenge. I have
seen all of Clough’s videos and think this is the system I
would want to go with.
Is there other systems that are plug and play?
Thank you by the way for your advice!
On Jan 23, 2024, at 7:37?PM, Greg
via groups.io <gregj@...>
wrote:
?
Rui,
?
Back home and can respond a bit
better.? ??Yes, mine is the Clough ELS.
?
If I have to? explain this it will
get technical real fast but Clough uses a TI
microprocessor that is designed for motion control.?
Seems to be well thought out and was simple for me to
build.? You program it from your PC and the directions
are pretty good with good You-tube? How-Tos.? For
instance the TI processor has subsystems for the
encoder inputs… Arduinos have to brute force it.
?
That said, my degree is in CS and I
am an old E-tech and electrician (can’t hold a job I
guess).? So while I didn’t need them I have a decent
DSO and meter(s), bench supplies and so on and do know
how to use them.
?
If you aren’t fluent in Arduino,
then there won’t be much difference between this and
the Atomic as far as difficulty.? The big question is
can you follow directions and can you solder fairly
modern electronics? ?Modern would be surface mount and
that’s different… easier IMHO but different tools.
?
I looked at all the ELS options I
could find and thought the Clough was the best option
for me with likely the highest RPM limit…? as always
YMMV.
?
?
Greg
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Rui, ? It depends on what you mean by “plug and play”.? No one has a bolt on kit that I know of.? As Animal pointed out, the Rocket system has assembled electronics but you likely still need a power supply, and have to figure out how to mount everything. ? Grew up in the 80’s… just a kid then…? Graduated from HS in ’70 ;-)? ? ? If you are willing to learn it isn’t hard and you can always PM me.? I may be able to help.?? BTW, there isn’t any programming, just downloading some files including a loader for the TI board, then loading the downloaded program onto the board.? You have to do the same thing for an Arduino but likely need to load libraries and compile the program too.? 101 stuff but a PITA if it’s your first time and you miss something.? By the third time you’ll be teaching others. ? If you go this way and get stumped, don’t get frustrated, send up a flare…? we can probably get you going.? ? Greg
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No offense intended here. I must be ignorant on the subject.
Enlighten me on what I could do with an ELS that I could not do with
a QCGB or a change gear set. I understand that change gears are a
pain, which is why I bought a lathe with a QCGB to replace my change
gear lathe. The price of the QCGB lathe was offset by selling the
change gear lathe. If it is about not using change gears, it seems
that a QCGB lathe would be cheaper than an ELS upgrade.
You have to understand that I am still trying to figure out why I
would want to buy a water heater with Wi-Fi so that I can
communicate with it via a phone app. All I want from a water heater
is hot water when I turn on the tap. My QCGB lathe has 40 feed
speeds. I think I have used about 5 or 6 of them in 3 years.
Infinite control of the feed speed seems utterly useless to me.
On 1/23/2024 3:42 PM, mike allen wrote:
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??? ??? This ones probably one of the simplest ones I've seen
& seems to do everything . It's a free group & the folks
that designed it are in the group & help is not far away .
pretty sure if I do one it's gonna be this one . Info is in the
files section .
??? /g/AtomicELS
??? animal
On 1/23/24 12:28 PM, Rui Dantas via
groups.io wrote:
I have been watching some YouTube and there is on system some
guy made and he had all kinds of programmable boards on it.
Seemed very complicated but he apparently has all the parts for
sale to the public just don’t know how I would program the
boards… I’m just a hobbyist?
?
Rui, my Craftsman 12x36 has a direct drive
motorized Z axis. Not sure what you mean by "all the
electronics"?
Eventually I might get around to doing a motorized X
axis.
The hardest part is deciding how you are going to
motorize the axis, and implementing your decision.
It took me years after following all of the
discussions?on the web to actually?doing it.
Let me know any questions you might have or if you
just want encouragement.?
I did it all by myself without anyone to talk to,
that made it tough.
Until I got to the programming part where I got some
great help.
Once you get the motor mounted I have a great stand
alone program for motorizing an axis.
Hello
all! Has anyone done an electronic lead screw conversion
on their atlas lathes?
If so can you show some pics of the project. I’m looking
to add one but seam a bit complicated with all the
electronics.
Thank you!
|
An electronic lead screw allows you to cut any pitch thread you want, SAE or metric. It will also allow you to use any feed rate you want. So, if you are developing some chatter and want to reduce your feed from (and I'm making up numbers here) 0.010"/rev but the next change gear down takes you all the way down to 0.005"/rev, the ELS will allow you to pick anything in between (on the fly) till the chatter goes away.?
Basically it gives you almost infinite?control of your feeds.
Kevin
On Wed, Jan 24, 2024 at 8:31?AM Mike Poore < mpoore10@...> wrote:
No offense intended here. I must be ignorant on the subject.
Enlighten me on what I could do with an ELS that I could not do with
a QCGB or a change gear set. I understand that change gears are a
pain, which is why I bought a lathe with a QCGB to replace my change
gear lathe. The price of the QCGB lathe was offset by selling the
change gear lathe. If it is about not using change gears, it seems
that a QCGB lathe would be cheaper than an ELS upgrade.
You have to understand that I am still trying to figure out why I
would want to buy a water heater with Wi-Fi so that I can
communicate with it via a phone app. All I want from a water heater
is hot water when I turn on the tap. My QCGB lathe has 40 feed
speeds. I think I have used about 5 or 6 of them in 3 years.
Infinite control of the feed speed seems utterly useless to me.
On 1/23/2024 3:42 PM, mike allen wrote:
??? ??? This ones probably one of the simplest ones I've seen
& seems to do everything . It's a free group & the folks
that designed it are in the group & help is not far away .
pretty sure if I do one it's gonna be this one . Info is in the
files section .
??? /g/AtomicELS
??? animal
On 1/23/24 12:28 PM, Rui Dantas via
wrote:
I have been watching some YouTube and there is on system some
guy made and he had all kinds of programmable boards on it.
Seemed very complicated but he apparently has all the parts for
sale to the public just don’t know how I would program the
boards… I’m just a hobbyist?
?
Rui, my Craftsman 12x36 has a direct drive
motorized Z axis. Not sure what you mean by "all the
electronics"?
Eventually I might get around to doing a motorized X
axis.
The hardest part is deciding how you are going to
motorize the axis, and implementing your decision.
It took me years after following all of the
discussions?on the web to actually?doing it.
Let me know any questions you might have or if you
just want encouragement.?
I did it all by myself without anyone to talk to,
that made it tough.
Until I got to the programming part where I got some
great help.
Once you get the motor mounted I have a great stand
alone program for motorizing an axis.
Hello
all! Has anyone done an electronic lead screw conversion
on their atlas lathes?
If so can you show some pics of the project. I’m looking
to add one but seam a bit complicated with all the
electronics.
Thank you!
|
Didn't get it for my Atlas, but my ELS was under half-price from John Dammeyer, full price was under $300. Still gotta buy an encoder, and connection stuff, but most of it I can build. That ELS is old tech, 2006 or so, but he's working up a modern version using a PIC32. And haven't gotten to play with the lathe it's going on in a couple of years or more. That's a Smithy CB-1220XL.
William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)
Aphorisms to live by: Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement.? SEMPER GUMBY!
Expect in one hand, expectorate in the other. See which one gets full first.
On Wednesday, January 24, 2024 at 08:31:52 AM CST, Mike Poore <mpoore10@...> wrote:
No offense intended here. I must be ignorant on the subject.
Enlighten me on what I could do with an ELS that I could not do with
a QCGB or a change gear set. I understand that change gears are a
pain, which is why I bought a lathe with a QCGB to replace my change
gear lathe. The price of the QCGB lathe was offset by selling the
change gear lathe. If it is about not using change gears, it seems
that a QCGB lathe would be cheaper than an ELS upgrade.
You have to understand that I am still trying to figure out why I
would want to buy a water heater with Wi-Fi so that I can
communicate with it via a phone app. All I want from a water heater
is hot water when I turn on the tap. My QCGB lathe has 40 feed
speeds. I think I have used about 5 or 6 of them in 3 years.
Infinite control of the feed speed seems utterly useless to me.
On 1/23/2024 3:42 PM, mike allen wrote:
??? ??? This ones probably one of the simplest ones I've seen
& seems to do everything . It's a free group & the folks
that designed it are in the group & help is not far away .
pretty sure if I do one it's gonna be this one . Info is in the
files section .
??? /g/AtomicELS
??? animal
On 1/23/24 12:28 PM, Rui Dantas via
groups.io wrote:
I have been watching some YouTube and there is on system some
guy made and he had all kinds of programmable boards on it.
Seemed very complicated but he apparently has all the parts for
sale to the public just don’t know how I would program the
boards… I’m just a hobbyist?
On Jan 23, 2024, at 1:25?PM, Ralph
Hulslander <rhulslander@...>
wrote:
?
Rui, my Craftsman 12x36 has a direct drive
motorized Z axis. Not sure what you mean by "all the
electronics"?
Eventually I might get around to doing a motorized X
axis.
The hardest part is deciding how you are going to
motorize the axis, and implementing your decision.
It took me years after following all of the
discussions?on the web to actually?doing it.
Let me know any questions you might have or if you
just want encouragement.?
I did it all by myself without anyone to talk to,
that made it tough.
Until I got to the programming part where I got some
great help.
Once you get the motor mounted I have a great stand
alone program for motorizing an axis.
Hello
all! Has anyone done an electronic lead screw conversion
on their atlas lathes?
If so can you show some pics of the project. I’m looking
to add one but seam a bit complicated with all the
electronics.
Thank you!
|
There are other options on some of the versions. With some you can cut tapers others you can also ball turn.
On Wed, Jan 24, 2024 at 9:48?AM Kevin McEnhill < mcenhillk@...> wrote: An electronic lead screw allows you to cut any pitch thread you want, SAE or metric. It will also allow you to use any feed rate you want. So, if you are developing some chatter and want to reduce your feed from (and I'm making up numbers here) 0.010"/rev but the next change gear down takes you all the way down to 0.005"/rev, the ELS will allow you to pick anything in between (on the fly) till the chatter goes away.?
Basically it gives you almost infinite?control of your feeds.
Kevin
On Wed, Jan 24, 2024 at 8:31?AM Mike Poore < mpoore10@...> wrote:
No offense intended here. I must be ignorant on the subject.
Enlighten me on what I could do with an ELS that I could not do with
a QCGB or a change gear set. I understand that change gears are a
pain, which is why I bought a lathe with a QCGB to replace my change
gear lathe. The price of the QCGB lathe was offset by selling the
change gear lathe. If it is about not using change gears, it seems
that a QCGB lathe would be cheaper than an ELS upgrade.
You have to understand that I am still trying to figure out why I
would want to buy a water heater with Wi-Fi so that I can
communicate with it via a phone app. All I want from a water heater
is hot water when I turn on the tap. My QCGB lathe has 40 feed
speeds. I think I have used about 5 or 6 of them in 3 years.
Infinite control of the feed speed seems utterly useless to me.
On 1/23/2024 3:42 PM, mike allen wrote:
??? ??? This ones probably one of the simplest ones I've seen
& seems to do everything . It's a free group & the folks
that designed it are in the group & help is not far away .
pretty sure if I do one it's gonna be this one . Info is in the
files section .
??? /g/AtomicELS
??? animal
On 1/23/24 12:28 PM, Rui Dantas via
wrote:
I have been watching some YouTube and there is on system some
guy made and he had all kinds of programmable boards on it.
Seemed very complicated but he apparently has all the parts for
sale to the public just don’t know how I would program the
boards… I’m just a hobbyist?
?
Rui, my Craftsman 12x36 has a direct drive
motorized Z axis. Not sure what you mean by "all the
electronics"?
Eventually I might get around to doing a motorized X
axis.
The hardest part is deciding how you are going to
motorize the axis, and implementing your decision.
It took me years after following all of the
discussions?on the web to actually?doing it.
Let me know any questions you might have or if you
just want encouragement.?
I did it all by myself without anyone to talk to,
that made it tough.
Until I got to the programming part where I got some
great help.
Once you get the motor mounted I have a great stand
alone program for motorizing an axis.
Hello
all! Has anyone done an electronic lead screw conversion
on their atlas lathes?
If so can you show some pics of the project. I’m looking
to add one but seam a bit complicated with all the
electronics.
Thank you!
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Thanks for the reply. I guess I didn't think about chatter since I
can deal with that with a VFD controlling rpm. The metric thread
cutting makes sense although I have just used a die holder. I was
thinking about making a transposing gear, but I have not needed one
yet. I guess this is further evidence that there are 10 ways to do
the same thing in machining.
On 1/24/2024 9:48 AM, Kevin McEnhill
wrote:
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An electronic lead screw allows you to cut any
pitch thread you want, SAE or metric. It will also allow you to
use any feed rate you want. So, if you are developing some
chatter and want to reduce your feed from (and I'm making up
numbers here) 0.010"/rev but the next change gear down takes you
all the way down to 0.005"/rev, the ELS will allow you to pick
anything in between (on the fly) till the chatter goes away.?
Basically it gives you almost infinite?control of your
feeds.
Kevin
On Wed, Jan 24, 2024 at
8:31?AM Mike Poore < mpoore10@...>
wrote:
No offense intended here. I must be ignorant on the
subject. Enlighten me on what I could do with an ELS that I
could not do with a QCGB or a change gear set. I understand
that change gears are a pain, which is why I bought a lathe
with a QCGB to replace my change gear lathe. The price of
the QCGB lathe was offset by selling the change gear lathe.
If it is about not using change gears, it seems that a QCGB
lathe would be cheaper than an ELS upgrade.
You have to understand that I am still trying to figure out
why I would want to buy a water heater with Wi-Fi so that I
can communicate with it via a phone app. All I want from a
water heater is hot water when I turn on the tap. My QCGB
lathe has 40 feed speeds. I think I have used about 5 or 6
of them in 3 years. Infinite control of the feed speed seems
utterly useless to me.
On 1/23/2024 3:42 PM, mike allen wrote:
??? ??? This ones probably one of the simplest ones
I've seen & seems to do everything . It's a free
group & the folks that designed it are in the group
& help is not far away . pretty sure if I do one
it's gonna be this one . Info is in the files section .
??? /g/AtomicELS
??? animal
On 1/23/24 12:28 PM, Rui Dantas via wrote:
I have been watching some YouTube
and there is on system some guy made and he had all
kinds of programmable boards on it. Seemed very
complicated but he apparently has all the parts for sale
to the public just don’t know how I would program the
boards… I’m just a hobbyist?
?
Rui, my Craftsman 12x36 has a direct
drive motorized Z axis. Not sure what you mean by
"all the electronics"?
Eventually I might get around to doing a
motorized X axis.
The hardest part is deciding how you are
going to motorize the axis, and implementing
your decision.
It took me years after following all of the
discussions?on the web to actually?doing it.
Let me know any questions you might have or
if you just want encouragement.?
I did it all by myself without anyone to talk
to, that made it tough.
Until I got to the programming part where I
got some great help.
Once you get the motor mounted I have a great
stand alone program for motorizing an axis.
Hello
all! Has anyone done an electronic lead screw
conversion on their atlas lathes?
If so can you show some pics of the project. I’m
looking to add one but seam a bit complicated
with all the electronics.
Thank you!
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Bill in OKC too