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I know it's not Atlas or Craftsman but I just got gifted a Bench Master horizontal mill and was wondering if anyone knew what happened to the old yahoo Bench Master group? Looking for parts/lists, manuals..... Thanks for any info??
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Ken H in AZ
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Check out Vintage Machinery.org.
I know there's at least a few guys on OWWM that have them as well.
Good luck.
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Dave
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On 05/18/2024 4:58 PM CDT Ken H <dreamcrafters@...> wrote:
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I know it's not Atlas or Craftsman but I just got gifted a Bench Master horizontal mill and was wondering if anyone knew what happened to the old yahoo Bench Master group? Looking for parts/lists, manuals..... Thanks for any info??
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Ken H in AZ
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pictures or it didn't happen
On 5/18/24 2:58 PM, Ken H wrote:
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I know it's not Atlas or Craftsman but I just got gifted a Bench
Master horizontal mill and was wondering if anyone knew what
happened to the old yahoo Bench Master group? Looking for
parts/lists, manuals..... Thanks for any info??
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Ken H in AZ
Knowledge is like manure, it won't do any good unless you spread
it around.
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There is a Benchmaster group on Facebook, and there is some information at the Vintage Machinery site.
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I have a Benchmaster Vertical (which is the same as the horizontal, but configured differently) so I may be able to answer a few questions. ?There is at least some documentation on Vintage Machinery, and on Tony's UK Lathes site.
Charlie
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Upon request I opened a Benchmaster group in Machinistweb.com back in November 2019 but alas no one has made use of it yet.? :_(
Raymond
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There used to be a Benchmaster group? benchmastermill@.... Haven’t seen any traffic in quite a long time.
I used to correspond regularly.
Jim Irwin
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On May 21, 2024, at 7:56 AM, mondosmetals via < jwrey@...> wrote:
Upon request I opened a Benchmaster group in back in November 2019 but alas no one has made use of it yet.? :_(
Raymond
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Thanks for the replies, had a few distractions so just getting back. Yahoo group is no longer, other did not show up with searches.
The thing was a wreck when acquired, had an unusable Frankenstein vertical head but luckily the PO used the old horizontal spindle and i was able to recover it. Cleaned all the bearings all spec'ed out so regressed it and put back together. Had to completely remake the table lead screw as the old one was hacked together with 1/2"-13 all thread. Had some 1/2-10 acme screw and nuts that worked out fine. Had to make an aluminum block for the end cap which I drilled and bored on my 6" Craftsman lathe and also turned and threaded the ends. The over arm and table cleaned up nice. Temp'ed upa sewing machine motor for a test run and this thing cuts true and clean. Squared up 3 sides of some old angle iron, step groved in a 1/2" end mill and skinned a fly cutter across it and it perform well for what little I have in it so far. Now I need to find a horizontal cutter holder for some gear cutters, not much out there that has an MT2 for the spindle.
Pictures for Animal:
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Ken H in AZ
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Ken H in AZ
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Sorry pics didn't stick first time.
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Ken H in AZ
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Glad I check my post over.
I re-greased the bearings not "regressed".
And that bearing was to show the 1951 date hand engraved on it.
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Ken H in AZ
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That Atlas MF horizontal mills use an MT2 spindle taper, too. I have on that's been nearly together for probably close to 15 years now. Bought some MT2 accessories for it, import stuff from Amazon & eBay. ER25 collet holder & collet, MT2 collets, and MT2 blank mandrels, among other things. Might be better to have a bit larger lathe, like my Atlas TH42, but any lathe would be better than no lathe, and it sounds like you've done good work with your Craftsman 6".
Didn't see any attached photos, and would be interested in them.
Bill in OKC?
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On Monday, May 27, 2024 at 05:12:22 PM CDT, Ken H <dreamcrafters@...> wrote:
Thanks for the replies, had a few distractions so just getting back. Yahoo group is no longer, other did not show up with searches.
The thing was a wreck when acquired, had an unusable Frankenstein vertical head but luckily the PO used the old horizontal spindle and i was able to recover it. Cleaned all the bearings all spec'ed out so regressed it and put back together. Had to completely remake the table lead screw as the old one was hacked together with 1/2"-13 all thread. Had some 1/2-10 acme screw and nuts that worked out fine. Had to make an aluminum block for the end cap which I drilled and bored on my 6" Craftsman lathe and also turned and threaded the ends. The over arm and table cleaned up nice. Temp'ed upa sewing machine motor for a test run and this thing cuts true and clean. Squared up 3 sides of some old angle iron, step groved in a 1/2" end mill and skinned a fly cutter across it and it perform well for what little I have in it so far. Now I need to find a horizontal cutter holder for some gear cutters, not much out there that has an MT2 for the spindle.
Pictures for Animal:
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Ken H in AZ
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Looks good!
Bill in OKC?
William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)
Aphorisms to live by: Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement.? SEMPER GUMBY!
Expect in one hand, expectorate in the other. See which one gets full first.
On Monday, May 27, 2024 at 05:16:05 PM CDT, Ken H <dreamcrafters@...> wrote:
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Ken H in AZ
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? It looks like that mill is crying for a Bridgeport style head? to go with the horizontal, now that you can find heads reasonable. This is my lime driven Oakley with a Millport 4 Hp head. Just hung the head where I wanted it and welded an adapter in place. Got the head off Craigs list?for a couple hundred n about that much more for new bearings?and belts.?
Thanks for the replies, had a few distractions so just getting back. Yahoo group is no longer, other did not show up with searches.
The thing was a wreck when acquired, had an unusable Frankenstein vertical head but luckily the PO used the old horizontal spindle and i was able to recover it. Cleaned all the bearings all spec'ed out so regressed it and put back together. Had to completely remake the table lead screw as the old one was hacked together with 1/2"-13 all thread. Had some 1/2-10 acme screw and nuts that worked out fine. Had to make an aluminum block for the end cap which I drilled and bored on my 6" Craftsman lathe and also turned and threaded the ends. The over arm and table cleaned up nice. Temp'ed upa sewing machine motor for a test run and this thing cuts true and clean. Squared up 3 sides of some old angle iron, step groved in a 1/2" end mill and skinned a fly cutter across it and it perform well for what little I have in it so far. Now I need to find a horizontal cutter holder for some gear cutters, not much out there that has an MT2 for the spindle.
Pictures for Animal:
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Ken H in AZ
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Though I do like the horizontal for many reasons I would like to re store the ability to quick change over to a vertical as well. The original stock version of the Bench Master had set ups for both.
I am already sourcing parts to do so, I'll keep an eye out for a head, thanks!
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Ken H in AZ
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Dave, also what is the common head attachment, does it clamp on the over arm and if so what is the diameter? Or if not what spec's to attach?
Thanks.
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Ken H in AZ
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Clamped to the over arm is common on the type mill you have. The
easily available Bridgeport? heads mount to a 1 3/16" ifirc pin
with a gear to adjust tram and the bracket clamps to tram adapter.
My Oakley originally had a vertical head with shaper that held the
over arm but the junkie next door stole it out of my barn so I
made my adapter bolt to the bosses that were there and I omitted
the? tram gear and lock the quill down and use the bed to adjust
the tram. Be dam sure the quill is touching the bed and locked
before UN-clamping if you omit the gear.
Dave
On 6/1/2024 4:05 PM, Ken H wrote:
Dave, also what is the common head attachment, does it clamp on
the over arm and if so what is the diameter? Or if not what spec's
to attach?
Thanks.
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Ken H in AZ
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Here's my Benchmaster with a Rotex vertical head. I did convert the y collet spindle to a ER20 spindle.
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Bill from Socal
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I like the collet holder. Is that homemade?
On Sun, Jun 2, 2024 at 3:19?PM William Nelson via <wnnelson= [email protected]> wrote: Here's my Benchmaster with a Rotex vertical head. I did convert the y collet spindle to a ER20 spindle.
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Bill from Socal
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Looks good, for me no quill = not very useful for everyday stuff.
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Dave
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On 06/02/2024 2:19 PM CDT William Nelson <wnnelson@...> wrote:
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Here's my Benchmaster with a Rotex vertical head. I did convert the y collet spindle to a ER20 spindle.
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Bill from Socal
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Ken H
charles brady
Bill in OKC too