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AXA or BXA

 

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There are a lot of sellers who try to skirt Ebay fees by selling cheap and charging huge shipping fees

Get

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Guenther Paul <paulguenter@...>
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 7:55:19 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA
?
I saw a product on e-bay the seller was in Australia the shipping was more then the product.

GP

--------------------------------------------
On Tue, 1/15/19, Andrei <calciu1@...> wrote:

Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Date: Tuesday, January 15, 2019, 7:49 PM






Probably 20 bucks or so






Get Outlook for Android




From:
[email protected] <[email protected]>
on behalf of Guenther Paul <paulguenter@...>

Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 7:48:03 PM

To: [email protected]

Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA
?

I wouldn't mind trying one of tool holders. does he
ship from Australia. Didn't see the shipping cost




GP



--------------------------------------------

On Tue, 1/15/19, Andrei <calciu1@...> wrote:



Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA

To: "[email protected]"
<[email protected]>

Date: Tuesday, January 15, 2019, 6:12 PM







GP, I have the AXA and lantern tool posts. I was looking at

the website of the Australian manufacturer who makes

tangential tool holders under the Diamond brand
name?www.eccentricengineering.com.au











Their website sucks, but I can't blame the man. His

tools seem awesome, and that is what counts. He can always

hire a web designing jockey to improve the site.?











The tool holders are listed by millimiter size and he is
not

measuring from the spindle center to the top of the
compound

to determine "tool height" which in turn is the

size of the holder. I am a bit stumped by this or maybe my

metric confusion is too great:??







The Diamond Tool Holder -

eccentricengineering.com.au



The Diamond Tool Holder. The Diamond Tool Holders are

available in several tool heights to suit most lathes. To

find the best fit for your lathe go to the Tool Selection

page first.. Check out the categories under The Diamond
Tool

Holders below.



www.eccentricengineering.com.au





























From:

[email protected] <[email protected]>

on behalf of Guenther Paul <paulguenter@...>



Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 5:55 PM



To: [email protected]



Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA

?



if you check the specifications it will tell you what

size tool holder to use For a 9A I would use a axa







GP







--------------------------------------------



On Tue, 1/15/19, Andrei <calciu1@...>

wrote:







Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA



To: "[email protected]"

<[email protected]>



Date: Tuesday, January 15, 2019, 5:44 PM















James, I tried to figure out those Diamond tangential

tool



holders. The manufacturer lists the sizes based on tool



height in mm and none of them make any sense to me. How

did



you figure which size holder was good for your South Bend

9A



and Which was was good



for your 12" Atlas??























I want to order one for each of my machines, but I am



stumped by the Australian website. Please, help.?











From:



[email protected]

<[email protected]>



on behalf of James Rice <james.rice@...>







Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 1:37 PM







To: [email protected]







Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA



?















I have an



AXA on mine and on my South Bend 9A as well so I can



appreciate you wanting to share holders and tooling

between



lathes as that is what I do as well.? My larger lathe is

a



South Bend 16 so I use a CXA post and



holders on it.? It is close to the border between using

a



CA or a CXA.? I went CXA as I don't tend to hog out



things on the lathe and the price difference between CA

and



CXA set and holders is huge!? I have a few friends who

have



Atlas lathes, one has a BXA



and loves it, the others have AXA sets so I can't

help



you with an informed opinion.? I think I've used my



rocker post twice in the last 11 years.















As far as



the tangential tool holders that were mentioned above,

they



are my go to bit holder for all my lathes.? I have made

one



for my Atlas 618, I bought a Diamond set and a pair

Wimberly



holders for my 12" and 9A and



have been making a set for my South Bend 16 that will

take



either a 3/8" or 1/2" square tool bit.? I may

buy



a Diamond 20 set for the SB16 depending upon how my

shopmade



versions turn out.? Wimberly doesn't offer a holder

for



my 16" lathe.















James



















On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 7:56 AM ksierens



<ksierens@...>



wrote:























Jody,



?



A number of problems.?



The lantern tool post is centered on the compound, so the



forces during cutting are straight down, as opposed to

using



a QCTP when the tool is hung? far from the centerline of



the tool post. Second, you would need



to duplicate the high positive rake of a tool like it is



when you are using a lantern tool holder, but, if you

were



to grind a HSS tool with the same geometry and hold it in

a



QCTP, it will be much better.? I do not have a

tangential



(diamond) tool holder,



but that should give you good result, but I still feel a



lantern toolholder is still a much more rigid setup, but

not



convenient.



?



?



?



?











From:



[email protected]

<[email protected]>



On Behalf Of Jody







Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 8:34 AM







To: [email protected]







Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or



BXA











?



Kurt,







What if you used that



same HSS roughing tool in the QCTP???











?











Are others finding that



large cuts on hard steel are more difficult with QCTP.?

I



haven't had experience with both in doing large



cuts.











-Jody























-------- Original message --------







From: ksierens <ksierens@...>











Date: 1/14/19 10:00 PM (GMT-06:00)







To: [email protected]











Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA































I have an AXA from CDCO,



and love it. I will say do not get rid of the lantern

tool



post if you have one though. The more I use my old

machines,



the more I realize they are best used how they were



intended. I was roughing in a part yesterday



of 12L14, and with a nice sharp HSS roughing tool, can



easily take a 0.050 deep (0.100 on the diameter) with

very



little strain on my lathe. Even with W-1 I can take at

0.030



deep cut. Now I use my QCTP, it's not going anywhere,



and you cant beat the convenience,



just saying, they tear off the material instead of

cutting



it. The old guys knew what they were talking



about.











?











Kurt S











?











?











?















Sent via the Samsung



Galaxy S7, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone















?











?











-------- Original



message --------











From: Dan and Marlene



Coleman <dan_marlene@...>















Date: 1/14/19 8:52 PM



(GMT-05:00)











To:



[email protected]











Subject:



[atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA











?











I want to switch QC tool



posts for something I can easily find extra holders.

Looking



at the Aloris fit chart an AXA is called out for all

Atlas



lathes. It looks like a BXA would also fit. What size are



you using with your 12" Atlas.



I'm leaning toward the BXA because I could also



transfer this tooling to my 13" lathe later. My only



concern is the bulk of the tooling limiting getting close



the tailstock. I am currently using surplus mini lathe



tooling with the post measuring 2.5 x 2.5"



with a spacer on the bottom. Thanks in advance for your



input.







Dan Coleman

 

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That used to be true some of the time but it all changed some 10 years ago when eBay started charging the same percentage fee for shipping as for items.? Many buyers and even some sellers still don’t know that.? Plus the cost of postage has doubled or tripled over the same period.? $20 won’t ship much of anything anywhere anymore.? Before you complain about shipping cost or accuse someone of overcharging you should look at the current rate charts.? The typical uninformed American doesn’t even know that one ounce First Class domestic now costs 50 cents.? The only shipping bargain is Media Mail, which is still subsidized.?

?

Robert Downs

?

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Andrei
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 19:01
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA

?

There are a lot of sellers who try to skirt Ebay fees by selling cheap and charging huge shipping fees

Get

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Guenther Paul <paulguenter@...>
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 7:55:19 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA

?

I saw a product on e-bay the seller was in Australia the shipping was more then the product.

GP

--------------------------------------------
On Tue, 1/15/19, Andrei <calciu1@...> wrote:

Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Date: Tuesday, January 15, 2019, 7:49 PM






Probably 20 bucks or so






Get Outlook for Android




From:
[email protected] <[email protected]>
on behalf of Guenther Paul <paulguenter@...>

Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 7:48:03 PM

To: [email protected]

Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA
?

I wouldn't mind trying one of tool holders. does he
ship from Australia. Didn't see the shipping cost




GP



--------------------------------------------

On Tue, 1/15/19, Andrei <calciu1@...> wrote:



Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA

To: "[email protected]"
<[email protected]>

Date: Tuesday, January 15, 2019, 6:12 PM







GP, I have the AXA and lantern tool posts. I was looking at

the website of the Australian manufacturer who makes

tangential tool holders under the Diamond brand
name?www.eccentricengineering.com.au











Their website sucks, but I can't blame the man. His

tools seem awesome, and that is what counts. He can always

hire a web designing jockey to improve the site.?











The tool holders are listed by millimiter size and he is
not

measuring from the spindle center to the top of the
compound

to determine "tool height" which in turn is the

size of the holder. I am a bit stumped by this or maybe my

metric confusion is too great:??







The Diamond Tool Holder -

eccentricengineering.com.au



The Diamond Tool Holder. The Diamond Tool Holders are

available in several tool heights to suit most lathes. To

find the best fit for your lathe go to the Tool Selection

page first.. Check out the categories under The Diamond
Tool

Holders below.



www.eccentricengineering.com.au





























From:

[email protected] <[email protected]>

on behalf of Guenther Paul <paulguenter@...>



Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 5:55 PM



To: [email protected]



Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA

?



if you check the specifications it will tell you what

size tool holder to use For a 9A I would use a axa







GP







--------------------------------------------



On Tue, 1/15/19, Andrei <calciu1@...>

wrote:







Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA



To: "[email protected]"

<[email protected]>



Date: Tuesday, January 15, 2019, 5:44 PM















James, I tried to figure out those Diamond tangential

tool



holders. The manufacturer lists the sizes based on tool



height in mm and none of them make any sense to me. How

did



you figure which size holder was good for your South Bend

9A



and Which was was good



for your 12" Atlas??























I want to order one for each of my machines, but I am



stumped by the Australian website. Please, help.?











From:



[email protected]

<[email protected]>



on behalf of James Rice <james.rice@...>







Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 1:37 PM







To: [email protected]







Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA



?















I have an



AXA on mine and on my South Bend 9A as well so I can



appreciate you wanting to share holders and tooling

between



lathes as that is what I do as well.? My larger lathe is

a



South Bend 16 so I use a CXA post and



holders on it.? It is close to the border between using

a



CA or a CXA.? I went CXA as I don't tend to hog out



things on the lathe and the price difference between CA

and



CXA set and holders is huge!? I have a few friends who

have



Atlas lathes, one has a BXA



and loves it, the others have AXA sets so I can't

help



you with an informed opinion.? I think I've used my



rocker post twice in the last 11 years.















As far as



the tangential tool holders that were mentioned above,

they



are my go to bit holder for all my lathes.? I have made

one



for my Atlas 618, I bought a Diamond set and a pair

Wimberly



holders for my 12" and 9A and



have been making a set for my South Bend 16 that will

take



either a 3/8" or 1/2" square tool bit.? I may

buy



a Diamond 20 set for the SB16 depending upon how my

shopmade



versions turn out.? Wimberly doesn't offer a holder

for



my 16" lathe.















James



















On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 7:56 AM ksierens



<ksierens@...>



wrote:























Jody,



?



A number of problems.?



The lantern tool post is centered on the compound, so the



forces during cutting are straight down, as opposed to

using



a QCTP when the tool is hung? far from the centerline of



the tool post. Second, you would need



to duplicate the high positive rake of a tool like it is



when you are using a lantern tool holder, but, if you

were



to grind a HSS tool with the same geometry and hold it in

a



QCTP, it will be much better.? I do not have a

tangential



(diamond) tool holder,



but that should give you good result, but I still feel a



lantern toolholder is still a much more rigid setup, but

not



convenient.



?



?



?



?











From:



[email protected]

<[email protected]>



On Behalf Of Jody







Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 8:34 AM







To: [email protected]







Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or



BXA











?



Kurt,







What if you used that



same HSS roughing tool in the QCTP???











?











Are others finding that



large cuts on hard steel are more difficult with QCTP.?

I



haven't had experience with both in doing large



cuts.











-Jody























-------- Original message --------







From: ksierens <ksierens@...>











Date: 1/14/19 10:00 PM (GMT-06:00)







To: [email protected]











Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA































I have an AXA from CDCO,



and love it. I will say do not get rid of the lantern

tool



post if you have one though. The more I use my old

machines,



the more I realize they are best used how they were



intended. I was roughing in a part yesterday



of 12L14, and with a nice sharp HSS roughing tool, can



easily take a 0.050 deep (0.100 on the diameter) with

very



little strain on my lathe. Even with W-1 I can take at

0.030



deep cut. Now I use my QCTP, it's not going anywhere,



and you cant beat the convenience,



just saying, they tear off the material instead of

cutting



it. The old guys knew what they were talking



about.











?











Kurt S











?











?











?















Sent via the Samsung



Galaxy S7, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone















?











?











-------- Original



message --------











From: Dan and Marlene



Coleman <dan_marlene@...>















Date: 1/14/19 8:52 PM



(GMT-05:00)











To:



[email protected]











Subject:



[atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA











?











I want to switch QC tool



posts for something I can easily find extra holders.

Looking



at the Aloris fit chart an AXA is called out for all

Atlas



lathes. It looks like a BXA would also fit. What size are



you using with your 12" Atlas.



I'm leaning toward the BXA because I could also



transfer this tooling to my 13" lathe later. My only



concern is the bulk of the tooling limiting getting close



the tailstock. I am currently using surplus mini lathe



tooling with the post measuring 2.5 x 2.5"



with a spacer on the bottom. Thanks in advance for your



input.







Dan Coleman

 

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Robert and friends ,

?

Just for interest I have just bought a small relay for one of my classic cars from a chap in the USA which I heard of – the cost of the relay was fair - $21 – the cost of the package via USPS to here ?( South Africa) – was $46 . . . .

Regards,

?

Carvel

?

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Robert Downs via Groups.Io
Sent: 16 January 2019 09:10 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA

?

That used to be true some of the time but it all changed some 10 years ago when eBay started charging the same percentage fee for shipping as for items.? Many buyers and even some sellers still don’t know that.? Plus the cost of postage has doubled or tripled over the same period.? $20 won’t ship much of anything anywhere anymore.? Before you complain about shipping cost or accuse someone of overcharging you should look at the current rate charts.? The typical uninformed American doesn’t even know that one ounce First Class domestic now costs 50 cents.? The only shipping bargain is Media Mail, which is still subsidized.?

?

Robert Downs

?

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Andrei
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 19:01
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA

?

There are a lot of sellers who try to skirt Ebay fees by selling cheap and charging huge shipping fees

Get

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Guenther Paul <paulguenter@...>
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 7:55:19 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA

?

I saw a product on e-bay the seller was in Australia the shipping was more then the product.

GP

--------------------------------------------
On Tue, 1/15/19, Andrei <calciu1@...> wrote:

Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Date: Tuesday, January 15, 2019, 7:49 PM






Probably 20 bucks or so






Get Outlook for Android




From:
[email protected] <[email protected]>
on behalf of Guenther Paul <paulguenter@...>

Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 7:48:03 PM

To: [email protected]

Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA
?

I wouldn't mind trying one of tool holders. does he
ship from Australia. Didn't see the shipping cost




GP



--------------------------------------------

On Tue, 1/15/19, Andrei <calciu1@...> wrote:



Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA

To: "[email protected]"
<[email protected]>

Date: Tuesday, January 15, 2019, 6:12 PM







GP, I have the AXA and lantern tool posts. I was looking at

the website of the Australian manufacturer who makes

tangential tool holders under the Diamond brand
name?www.eccentricengineering.com.au











Their website sucks, but I can't blame the man. His

tools seem awesome, and that is what counts. He can always

hire a web designing jockey to improve the site.?











The tool holders are listed by millimiter size and he is
not

measuring from the spindle center to the top of the
compound

to determine "tool height" which in turn is the

size of the holder. I am a bit stumped by this or maybe my

metric confusion is too great:??







The Diamond Tool Holder -

eccentricengineering.com.au



The Diamond Tool Holder. The Diamond Tool Holders are

available in several tool heights to suit most lathes. To

find the best fit for your lathe go to the Tool Selection

page first.. Check out the categories under The Diamond
Tool

Holders below.



www.eccentricengineering.com.au





























From:

[email protected] <[email protected]>

on behalf of Guenther Paul <paulguenter@...>



Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 5:55 PM



To: [email protected]



Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA

?



if you check the specifications it will tell you what

size tool holder to use For a 9A I would use a axa







GP







--------------------------------------------



On Tue, 1/15/19, Andrei <calciu1@...>

wrote:







Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA



To: "[email protected]"

<[email protected]>



Date: Tuesday, January 15, 2019, 5:44 PM















James, I tried to figure out those Diamond tangential

tool



holders. The manufacturer lists the sizes based on tool



height in mm and none of them make any sense to me. How

did



you figure which size holder was good for your South Bend

9A



and Which was was good



for your 12" Atlas??























I want to order one for each of my machines, but I am



stumped by the Australian website. Please, help.?











From:



[email protected]

<[email protected]>



on behalf of James Rice <james.rice@...>







Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 1:37 PM







To: [email protected]







Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA



?















I have an



AXA on mine and on my South Bend 9A as well so I can



appreciate you wanting to share holders and tooling

between



lathes as that is what I do as well.? My larger lathe is

a



South Bend 16 so I use a CXA post and



holders on it.? It is close to the border between using

a



CA or a CXA.? I went CXA as I don't tend to hog out



things on the lathe and the price difference between CA

and



CXA set and holders is huge!? I have a few friends who

have



Atlas lathes, one has a BXA



and loves it, the others have AXA sets so I can't

help



you with an informed opinion.? I think I've used my



rocker post twice in the last 11 years.















As far as



the tangential tool holders that were mentioned above,

they



are my go to bit holder for all my lathes.? I have made

one



for my Atlas 618, I bought a Diamond set and a pair

Wimberly



holders for my 12" and 9A and



have been making a set for my South Bend 16 that will

take



either a 3/8" or 1/2" square tool bit.? I may

buy



a Diamond 20 set for the SB16 depending upon how my

shopmade



versions turn out.? Wimberly doesn't offer a holder

for



my 16" lathe.















James



















On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 7:56 AM ksierens



<ksierens@...>



wrote:























Jody,



?



A number of problems.?



The lantern tool post is centered on the compound, so the



forces during cutting are straight down, as opposed to

using



a QCTP when the tool is hung? far from the centerline of



the tool post. Second, you would need



to duplicate the high positive rake of a tool like it is



when you are using a lantern tool holder, but, if you

were



to grind a HSS tool with the same geometry and hold it in

a



QCTP, it will be much better.? I do not have a

tangential



(diamond) tool holder,



but that should give you good result, but I still feel a



lantern toolholder is still a much more rigid setup, but

not



convenient.



?



?



?



?











From:



[email protected]

<[email protected]>



On Behalf Of Jody







Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 8:34 AM







To: [email protected]







Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or



BXA











?



Kurt,







What if you used that



same HSS roughing tool in the QCTP???











?











Are others finding that



large cuts on hard steel are more difficult with QCTP.?

I



haven't had experience with both in doing large



cuts.











-Jody























-------- Original message --------







From: ksierens <ksierens@...>











Date: 1/14/19 10:00 PM (GMT-06:00)







To: [email protected]











Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA































I have an AXA from CDCO,



and love it. I will say do not get rid of the lantern

tool



post if you have one though. The more I use my old

machines,



the more I realize they are best used how they were



intended. I was roughing in a part yesterday



of 12L14, and with a nice sharp HSS roughing tool, can



easily take a 0.050 deep (0.100 on the diameter) with

very



little strain on my lathe. Even with W-1 I can take at

0.030



deep cut. Now I use my QCTP, it's not going anywhere,



and you cant beat the convenience,



just saying, they tear off the material instead of

cutting



it. The old guys knew what they were talking



about.











?











Kurt S











?











?











?















Sent via the Samsung



Galaxy S7, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone















?











?











-------- Original



message --------











From: Dan and Marlene



Coleman <dan_marlene@...>















Date: 1/14/19 8:52 PM



(GMT-05:00)











To:



[email protected]











Subject:



[atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA











?











I want to switch QC tool



posts for something I can easily find extra holders.

Looking



at the Aloris fit chart an AXA is called out for all

Atlas



lathes. It looks like a BXA would also fit. What size are



you using with your 12" Atlas.



I'm leaning toward the BXA because I could also



transfer this tooling to my 13" lathe later. My only



concern is the bulk of the tooling limiting getting close



the tailstock. I am currently using surplus mini lathe



tooling with the post measuring 2.5 x 2.5"



with a spacer on the bottom. Thanks in advance for your



input.







Dan Coleman

 

开云体育

International shipping is different. The rates are established by agreement with the other country. For instance, it is cheaper to ship things from china to new York than it is to ship the same item from new jersey to new york. And in this case, shipping a tool holder across the pond should be inexpensive as it only weighs a few ounces.

Get

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Robert Downs via Groups.Io <wa5cab@...>
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 2:09:53 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA
?

That used to be true some of the time but it all changed some 10 years ago when eBay started charging the same percentage fee for shipping as for items.? Many buyers and even some sellers still don’t know that.? Plus the cost of postage has doubled or tripled over the same period.? $20 won’t ship much of anything anywhere anymore.? Before you complain about shipping cost or accuse someone of overcharging you should look at the current rate charts.? The typical uninformed American doesn’t even know that one ounce First Class domestic now costs 50 cents.? The only shipping bargain is Media Mail, which is still subsidized.?

?

Robert Downs

?

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Andrei
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 19:01
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA

?

There are a lot of sellers who try to skirt Ebay fees by selling cheap and charging huge shipping fees

Get

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Guenther Paul <paulguenter@...>
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 7:55:19 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA

?

I saw a product on e-bay the seller was in Australia the shipping was more then the product.

GP

--------------------------------------------
On Tue, 1/15/19, Andrei <calciu1@...> wrote:

Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Date: Tuesday, January 15, 2019, 7:49 PM






Probably 20 bucks or so






Get Outlook for Android




From:
[email protected] <[email protected]>
on behalf of Guenther Paul <paulguenter@...>

Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 7:48:03 PM

To: [email protected]

Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA
?

I wouldn't mind trying one of tool holders. does he
ship from Australia. Didn't see the shipping cost




GP



--------------------------------------------

On Tue, 1/15/19, Andrei <calciu1@...> wrote:



Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA

To: "[email protected]"
<[email protected]>

Date: Tuesday, January 15, 2019, 6:12 PM







GP, I have the AXA and lantern tool posts. I was looking at

the website of the Australian manufacturer who makes

tangential tool holders under the Diamond brand
name?www.eccentricengineering.com.au











Their website sucks, but I can't blame the man. His

tools seem awesome, and that is what counts. He can always

hire a web designing jockey to improve the site.?











The tool holders are listed by millimiter size and he is
not

measuring from the spindle center to the top of the
compound

to determine "tool height" which in turn is the

size of the holder. I am a bit stumped by this or maybe my

metric confusion is too great:??







The Diamond Tool Holder -

eccentricengineering.com.au



The Diamond Tool Holder. The Diamond Tool Holders are

available in several tool heights to suit most lathes. To

find the best fit for your lathe go to the Tool Selection

page first.. Check out the categories under The Diamond
Tool

Holders below.



www.eccentricengineering.com.au





























From:

[email protected] <[email protected]>

on behalf of Guenther Paul <paulguenter@...>



Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 5:55 PM



To: [email protected]



Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA

?



if you check the specifications it will tell you what

size tool holder to use For a 9A I would use a axa







GP







--------------------------------------------



On Tue, 1/15/19, Andrei <calciu1@...>

wrote:







Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA



To: "[email protected]"

<[email protected]>



Date: Tuesday, January 15, 2019, 5:44 PM















James, I tried to figure out those Diamond tangential

tool



holders. The manufacturer lists the sizes based on tool



height in mm and none of them make any sense to me. How

did



you figure which size holder was good for your South Bend

9A



and Which was was good



for your 12" Atlas??























I want to order one for each of my machines, but I am



stumped by the Australian website. Please, help.?











From:



[email protected]

<[email protected]>



on behalf of James Rice <james.rice@...>







Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 1:37 PM







To: [email protected]







Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA



?















I have an



AXA on mine and on my South Bend 9A as well so I can



appreciate you wanting to share holders and tooling

between



lathes as that is what I do as well.? My larger lathe is

a



South Bend 16 so I use a CXA post and



holders on it.? It is close to the border between using

a



CA or a CXA.? I went CXA as I don't tend to hog out



things on the lathe and the price difference between CA

and



CXA set and holders is huge!? I have a few friends who

have



Atlas lathes, one has a BXA



and loves it, the others have AXA sets so I can't

help



you with an informed opinion.? I think I've used my



rocker post twice in the last 11 years.















As far as



the tangential tool holders that were mentioned above,

they



are my go to bit holder for all my lathes.? I have made

one



for my Atlas 618, I bought a Diamond set and a pair

Wimberly



holders for my 12" and 9A and



have been making a set for my South Bend 16 that will

take



either a 3/8" or 1/2" square tool bit.? I may

buy



a Diamond 20 set for the SB16 depending upon how my

shopmade



versions turn out.? Wimberly doesn't offer a holder

for



my 16" lathe.















James



















On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 7:56 AM ksierens



<ksierens@...>



wrote:























Jody,



?



A number of problems.?



The lantern tool post is centered on the compound, so the



forces during cutting are straight down, as opposed to

using



a QCTP when the tool is hung? far from the centerline of



the tool post. Second, you would need



to duplicate the high positive rake of a tool like it is



when you are using a lantern tool holder, but, if you

were



to grind a HSS tool with the same geometry and hold it in

a



QCTP, it will be much better.? I do not have a

tangential



(diamond) tool holder,



but that should give you good result, but I still feel a



lantern toolholder is still a much more rigid setup, but

not



convenient.



?



?



?



?











From:



[email protected]

<[email protected]>



On Behalf Of Jody







Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 8:34 AM







To: [email protected]







Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or



BXA











?



Kurt,







What if you used that



same HSS roughing tool in the QCTP???











?











Are others finding that



large cuts on hard steel are more difficult with QCTP.?

I



haven't had experience with both in doing large



cuts.











-Jody























-------- Original message --------







From: ksierens <ksierens@...>











Date: 1/14/19 10:00 PM (GMT-06:00)







To: [email protected]











Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA































I have an AXA from CDCO,



and love it. I will say do not get rid of the lantern

tool



post if you have one though. The more I use my old

machines,



the more I realize they are best used how they were



intended. I was roughing in a part yesterday



of 12L14, and with a nice sharp HSS roughing tool, can



easily take a 0.050 deep (0.100 on the diameter) with

very



little strain on my lathe. Even with W-1 I can take at

0.030



deep cut. Now I use my QCTP, it's not going anywhere,



and you cant beat the convenience,



just saying, they tear off the material instead of

cutting



it. The old guys knew what they were talking



about.











?











Kurt S











?











?











?















Sent via the Samsung



Galaxy S7, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone















?











?











-------- Original



message --------











From: Dan and Marlene



Coleman <dan_marlene@...>















Date: 1/14/19 8:52 PM



(GMT-05:00)











To:



[email protected]











Subject:



[atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA











?











I want to switch QC tool



posts for something I can easily find extra holders.

Looking



at the Aloris fit chart an AXA is called out for all

Atlas



lathes. It looks like a BXA would also fit. What size are



you using with your 12" Atlas.



I'm leaning toward the BXA because I could also



transfer this tooling to my 13" lathe later. My only



concern is the bulk of the tooling limiting getting close



the tailstock. I am currently using surplus mini lathe



tooling with the post measuring 2.5 x 2.5"



with a spacer on the bottom. Thanks in advance for your



input.







Dan Coleman

 

I believe Village Press is the US distributor for these tools.
 

I thought international postage rates were governed by international statutes, to ensure fairness for "developing nations," such as China.

On Wednesday, January 16, 2019, 4:46:20 AM PST, Andrei <calciu1@...> wrote:


International shipping is different. The rates are established by agreement with the other country. For instance, it is cheaper to ship things from china to new York than it is to ship the same item from new jersey to new york. And in this case, shipping a tool holder across the pond should be inexpensive as it only weighs a few ounces.

Get

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Robert Downs via Groups.Io <wa5cab@...>
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 2:09:53 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA
?

That used to be true some of the time but it all changed some 10 years ago when eBay started charging the same percentage fee for shipping as for items.? Many buyers and even some sellers still don’t know that.? Plus the cost of postage has doubled or tripled over the same period.? $20 won’t ship much of anything anywhere anymore.? Before you complain about shipping cost or accuse someone of overcharging you should look at the current rate charts.? The typical uninformed American doesn’t even know that one ounce First Class domestic now costs 50 cents.? The only shipping bargain is Media Mail, which is still subsidized.?

?

Robert Downs

?

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Andrei
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 19:01
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA

?

There are a lot of sellers who try to skirt Ebay fees by selling cheap and charging huge shipping fees

Get

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Guenther Paul <paulguenter@...>
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 7:55:19 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA

?

I saw a product on e-bay the seller was in Australia the shipping was more then the product.

GP

--------------------------------------------
On Tue, 1/15/19, Andrei <calciu1@...> wrote:

Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Date: Tuesday, January 15, 2019, 7:49 PM






Probably 20 bucks or so






Get Outlook for Android




From:
[email protected] <[email protected]>
on behalf of Guenther Paul <paulguenter@...>

Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 7:48:03 PM

To: [email protected]

Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA
?

I wouldn't mind trying one of tool holders. does he
ship from Australia. Didn't see the shipping cost




GP



--------------------------------------------

On Tue, 1/15/19, Andrei <calciu1@...> wrote:



Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA

To: "[email protected]"
<[email protected]>

Date: Tuesday, January 15, 2019, 6:12 PM







GP, I have the AXA and lantern tool posts. I was looking at

the website of the Australian manufacturer who makes

tangential tool holders under the Diamond brand
name?www.eccentricengineering.com.au











Their website sucks, but I can't blame the man. His

tools seem awesome, and that is what counts. He can always

hire a web designing jockey to improve the site.?











The tool holders are listed by millimiter size and he is
not

measuring from the spindle center to the top of the
compound

to determine "tool height" which in turn is the

size of the holder. I am a bit stumped by this or maybe my

metric confusion is too great:??







The Diamond Tool Holder -

eccentricengineering.com.au



The Diamond Tool Holder. The Diamond Tool Holders are

available in several tool heights to suit most lathes. To

find the best fit for your lathe go to the Tool Selection

page first.. Check out the categories under The Diamond
Tool

Holders below.



www.eccentricengineering.com.au





























From:

[email protected] <[email protected]>

on behalf of Guenther Paul <paulguenter@...>



Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 5:55 PM



To: [email protected]



Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA

?



if you check the specifications it will tell you what

size tool holder to use For a 9A I would use a axa







GP







--------------------------------------------



On Tue, 1/15/19, Andrei <calciu1@...>

wrote:







Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA



To: "[email protected]"

<[email protected]>



Date: Tuesday, January 15, 2019, 5:44 PM















James, I tried to figure out those Diamond tangential

tool



holders. The manufacturer lists the sizes based on tool



height in mm and none of them make any sense to me. How

did



you figure which size holder was good for your South Bend

9A



and Which was was good



for your 12" Atlas??























I want to order one for each of my machines, but I am



stumped by the Australian website. Please, help.?











From:



[email protected]

<[email protected]>



on behalf of James Rice <james.rice@...>







Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 1:37 PM







To: [email protected]







Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA



?















I have an



AXA on mine and on my South Bend 9A as well so I can



appreciate you wanting to share holders and tooling

between



lathes as that is what I do as well.? My larger lathe is

a



South Bend 16 so I use a CXA post and



holders on it.? It is close to the border between using

a



CA or a CXA.? I went CXA as I don't tend to hog out



things on the lathe and the price difference between CA

and



CXA set and holders is huge!? I have a few friends who

have



Atlas lathes, one has a BXA



and loves it, the others have AXA sets so I can't

help



you with an informed opinion.? I think I've used my



rocker post twice in the last 11 years.















As far as



the tangential tool holders that were mentioned above,

they



are my go to bit holder for all my lathes.? I have made

one



for my Atlas 618, I bought a Diamond set and a pair

Wimberly



holders for my 12" and 9A and



have been making a set for my South Bend 16 that will

take



either a 3/8" or 1/2" square tool bit.? I may

buy



a Diamond 20 set for the SB16 depending upon how my

shopmade



versions turn out.? Wimberly doesn't offer a holder

for



my 16" lathe.















James



















On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 7:56 AM ksierens



<ksierens@...>



wrote:























Jody,



?



A number of problems.?



The lantern tool post is centered on the compound, so the



forces during cutting are straight down, as opposed to

using



a QCTP when the tool is hung? far from the centerline of



the tool post. Second, you would need



to duplicate the high positive rake of a tool like it is



when you are using a lantern tool holder, but, if you

were



to grind a HSS tool with the same geometry and hold it in

a



QCTP, it will be much better.? I do not have a

tangential



(diamond) tool holder,



but that should give you good result, but I still feel a



lantern toolholder is still a much more rigid setup, but

not



convenient.



?



?



?



?











From:



[email protected]

<[email protected]>



On Behalf Of Jody







Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 8:34 AM







To: [email protected]







Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or



BXA











?



Kurt,







What if you used that



same HSS roughing tool in the QCTP???











?











Are others finding that



large cuts on hard steel are more difficult with QCTP.?

I



haven't had experience with both in doing large



cuts.











-Jody























-------- Original message --------







From: ksierens <ksierens@...>











Date: 1/14/19 10:00 PM (GMT-06:00)







To: [email protected]











Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA































I have an AXA from CDCO,



and love it. I will say do not get rid of the lantern

tool



post if you have one though. The more I use my old

machines,



the more I realize they are best used how they were



intended. I was roughing in a part yesterday



of 12L14, and with a nice sharp HSS roughing tool, can



easily take a 0.050 deep (0.100 on the diameter) with

very



little strain on my lathe. Even with W-1 I can take at

0.030



deep cut. Now I use my QCTP, it's not going anywhere,



and you cant beat the convenience,



just saying, they tear off the material instead of

cutting



it. The old guys knew what they were talking



about.











?











Kurt S











?











?











?















Sent via the Samsung



Galaxy S7, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone















?











?











-------- Original



message --------











From: Dan and Marlene



Coleman <dan_marlene@...>















Date: 1/14/19 8:52 PM



(GMT-05:00)











To:



[email protected]











Subject:



[atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA











?











I want to switch QC tool



posts for something I can easily find extra holders.

Looking



at the Aloris fit chart an AXA is called out for all

Atlas



lathes. It looks like a BXA would also fit. What size are



you using with your 12" Atlas.



I'm leaning toward the BXA because I could also



transfer this tooling to my 13" lathe later. My only



concern is the bulk of the tooling limiting getting close



the tailstock. I am currently using surplus mini lathe



tooling with the post measuring 2.5 x 2.5"



with a spacer on the bottom. Thanks in advance for your



input.







Dan Coleman

 

开云体育

You are probably right. I read about it a few years ago and don't remember the details

Get

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Bill Buckalew via Groups.Io <bill70j@...>
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 8:19:17 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA
?
I thought international postage rates were governed by international statutes, to ensure fairness for "developing nations," such as China.

On Wednesday, January 16, 2019, 4:46:20 AM PST, Andrei <calciu1@...> wrote:


International shipping is different. The rates are established by agreement with the other country. For instance, it is cheaper to ship things from china to new York than it is to ship the same item from new jersey to new york. And in this case, shipping a tool holder across the pond should be inexpensive as it only weighs a few ounces.

Get

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Robert Downs via Groups.Io <wa5cab@...>
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 2:09:53 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA
?

That used to be true some of the time but it all changed some 10 years ago when eBay started charging the same percentage fee for shipping as for items.? Many buyers and even some sellers still don’t know that.? Plus the cost of postage has doubled or tripled over the same period.? $20 won’t ship much of anything anywhere anymore.? Before you complain about shipping cost or accuse someone of overcharging you should look at the current rate charts.? The typical uninformed American doesn’t even know that one ounce First Class domestic now costs 50 cents.? The only shipping bargain is Media Mail, which is still subsidized.?

?

Robert Downs

?

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Andrei
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 19:01
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA

?

There are a lot of sellers who try to skirt Ebay fees by selling cheap and charging huge shipping fees

Get

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Guenther Paul <paulguenter@...>
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 7:55:19 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA

?

I saw a product on e-bay the seller was in Australia the shipping was more then the product.

GP

--------------------------------------------
On Tue, 1/15/19, Andrei <calciu1@...> wrote:

Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Date: Tuesday, January 15, 2019, 7:49 PM






Probably 20 bucks or so






Get Outlook for Android




From:
[email protected] <[email protected]>
on behalf of Guenther Paul <paulguenter@...>

Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 7:48:03 PM

To: [email protected]

Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA
?

I wouldn't mind trying one of tool holders. does he
ship from Australia. Didn't see the shipping cost




GP



--------------------------------------------

On Tue, 1/15/19, Andrei <calciu1@...> wrote:



Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA

To: "[email protected]"
<[email protected]>

Date: Tuesday, January 15, 2019, 6:12 PM







GP, I have the AXA and lantern tool posts. I was looking at

the website of the Australian manufacturer who makes

tangential tool holders under the Diamond brand
name?www.eccentricengineering.com.au











Their website sucks, but I can't blame the man. His

tools seem awesome, and that is what counts. He can always

hire a web designing jockey to improve the site.?











The tool holders are listed by millimiter size and he is
not

measuring from the spindle center to the top of the
compound

to determine "tool height" which in turn is the

size of the holder. I am a bit stumped by this or maybe my

metric confusion is too great:??







The Diamond Tool Holder -

eccentricengineering.com.au



The Diamond Tool Holder. The Diamond Tool Holders are

available in several tool heights to suit most lathes. To

find the best fit for your lathe go to the Tool Selection

page first.. Check out the categories under The Diamond
Tool

Holders below.



www.eccentricengineering.com.au





























From:

[email protected] <[email protected]>

on behalf of Guenther Paul <paulguenter@...>



Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 5:55 PM



To: [email protected]



Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA

?



if you check the specifications it will tell you what

size tool holder to use For a 9A I would use a axa







GP







--------------------------------------------



On Tue, 1/15/19, Andrei <calciu1@...>

wrote:







Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA



To: "[email protected]"

<[email protected]>



Date: Tuesday, January 15, 2019, 5:44 PM















James, I tried to figure out those Diamond tangential

tool



holders. The manufacturer lists the sizes based on tool



height in mm and none of them make any sense to me. How

did



you figure which size holder was good for your South Bend

9A



and Which was was good



for your 12" Atlas??























I want to order one for each of my machines, but I am



stumped by the Australian website. Please, help.?











From:



[email protected]

<[email protected]>



on behalf of James Rice <james.rice@...>







Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 1:37 PM







To: [email protected]







Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA



?















I have an



AXA on mine and on my South Bend 9A as well so I can



appreciate you wanting to share holders and tooling

between



lathes as that is what I do as well.? My larger lathe is

a



South Bend 16 so I use a CXA post and



holders on it.? It is close to the border between using

a



CA or a CXA.? I went CXA as I don't tend to hog out



things on the lathe and the price difference between CA

and



CXA set and holders is huge!? I have a few friends who

have



Atlas lathes, one has a BXA



and loves it, the others have AXA sets so I can't

help



you with an informed opinion.? I think I've used my



rocker post twice in the last 11 years.















As far as



the tangential tool holders that were mentioned above,

they



are my go to bit holder for all my lathes.? I have made

one



for my Atlas 618, I bought a Diamond set and a pair

Wimberly



holders for my 12" and 9A and



have been making a set for my South Bend 16 that will

take



either a 3/8" or 1/2" square tool bit.? I may

buy



a Diamond 20 set for the SB16 depending upon how my

shopmade



versions turn out.? Wimberly doesn't offer a holder

for



my 16" lathe.















James



















On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 7:56 AM ksierens



<ksierens@...>



wrote:























Jody,



?



A number of problems.?



The lantern tool post is centered on the compound, so the



forces during cutting are straight down, as opposed to

using



a QCTP when the tool is hung? far from the centerline of



the tool post. Second, you would need



to duplicate the high positive rake of a tool like it is



when you are using a lantern tool holder, but, if you

were



to grind a HSS tool with the same geometry and hold it in

a



QCTP, it will be much better.? I do not have a

tangential



(diamond) tool holder,



but that should give you good result, but I still feel a



lantern toolholder is still a much more rigid setup, but

not



convenient.



?



?



?



?











From:



[email protected]

<[email protected]>



On Behalf Of Jody







Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 8:34 AM







To: [email protected]







Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or



BXA











?



Kurt,







What if you used that



same HSS roughing tool in the QCTP???











?











Are others finding that



large cuts on hard steel are more difficult with QCTP.?

I



haven't had experience with both in doing large



cuts.











-Jody























-------- Original message --------







From: ksierens <ksierens@...>











Date: 1/14/19 10:00 PM (GMT-06:00)







To: [email protected]











Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA































I have an AXA from CDCO,



and love it. I will say do not get rid of the lantern

tool



post if you have one though. The more I use my old

machines,



the more I realize they are best used how they were



intended. I was roughing in a part yesterday



of 12L14, and with a nice sharp HSS roughing tool, can



easily take a 0.050 deep (0.100 on the diameter) with

very



little strain on my lathe. Even with W-1 I can take at

0.030



deep cut. Now I use my QCTP, it's not going anywhere,



and you cant beat the convenience,



just saying, they tear off the material instead of

cutting



it. The old guys knew what they were talking



about.











?











Kurt S











?











?











?















Sent via the Samsung



Galaxy S7, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone















?











?











-------- Original



message --------











From: Dan and Marlene



Coleman <dan_marlene@...>















Date: 1/14/19 8:52 PM



(GMT-05:00)











To:



[email protected]











Subject:



[atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA











?











I want to switch QC tool



posts for something I can easily find extra holders.

Looking



at the Aloris fit chart an AXA is called out for all

Atlas



lathes. It looks like a BXA would also fit. What size are



you using with your 12" Atlas.



I'm leaning toward the BXA because I could also



transfer this tooling to my 13" lathe later. My only



concern is the bulk of the tooling limiting getting close



the tailstock. I am currently using surplus mini lathe



tooling with the post measuring 2.5 x 2.5"



with a spacer on the bottom. Thanks in advance for your



input.







Dan Coleman

 

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So is the Diamond tool a better option than a Wimberley tool?

I've heard great things about those as well.? They both look like they can do a great job.? Maybe the Diamond can hog more off at a time.

Just curious.
-Jody


-------- Original message --------
From: harpanet13 <harpanet1@...>
Date: 1/16/19 6:51 AM (GMT-06:00)
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA

I believe Village Press is the US distributor for these tools.
 

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I found a Bloomberg article from a year ago that has some details in it:

Get

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Bill Buckalew via Groups.Io <bill70j@...>
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 8:19:17 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA
?
I thought international postage rates were governed by international statutes, to ensure fairness for "developing nations," such as China.

On Wednesday, January 16, 2019, 4:46:20 AM PST, Andrei <calciu1@...> wrote:


International shipping is different. The rates are established by agreement with the other country. For instance, it is cheaper to ship things from china to new York than it is to ship the same item from new jersey to new york. And in this case, shipping a tool holder across the pond should be inexpensive as it only weighs a few ounces.

Get

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Robert Downs via Groups.Io <wa5cab@...>
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 2:09:53 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA
?

That used to be true some of the time but it all changed some 10 years ago when eBay started charging the same percentage fee for shipping as for items.? Many buyers and even some sellers still don’t know that.? Plus the cost of postage has doubled or tripled over the same period.? $20 won’t ship much of anything anywhere anymore.? Before you complain about shipping cost or accuse someone of overcharging you should look at the current rate charts.? The typical uninformed American doesn’t even know that one ounce First Class domestic now costs 50 cents.? The only shipping bargain is Media Mail, which is still subsidized.?

?

Robert Downs

?

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Andrei
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 19:01
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA

?

There are a lot of sellers who try to skirt Ebay fees by selling cheap and charging huge shipping fees

Get

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Guenther Paul <paulguenter@...>
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 7:55:19 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA

?

I saw a product on e-bay the seller was in Australia the shipping was more then the product.

GP

--------------------------------------------
On Tue, 1/15/19, Andrei <calciu1@...> wrote:

Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Date: Tuesday, January 15, 2019, 7:49 PM






Probably 20 bucks or so






Get Outlook for Android




From:
[email protected] <[email protected]>
on behalf of Guenther Paul <paulguenter@...>

Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 7:48:03 PM

To: [email protected]

Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA
?

I wouldn't mind trying one of tool holders. does he
ship from Australia. Didn't see the shipping cost




GP



--------------------------------------------

On Tue, 1/15/19, Andrei <calciu1@...> wrote:



Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA

To: "[email protected]"
<[email protected]>

Date: Tuesday, January 15, 2019, 6:12 PM







GP, I have the AXA and lantern tool posts. I was looking at

the website of the Australian manufacturer who makes

tangential tool holders under the Diamond brand
name?www.eccentricengineering.com.au











Their website sucks, but I can't blame the man. His

tools seem awesome, and that is what counts. He can always

hire a web designing jockey to improve the site.?











The tool holders are listed by millimiter size and he is
not

measuring from the spindle center to the top of the
compound

to determine "tool height" which in turn is the

size of the holder. I am a bit stumped by this or maybe my

metric confusion is too great:??







The Diamond Tool Holder -

eccentricengineering.com.au



The Diamond Tool Holder. The Diamond Tool Holders are

available in several tool heights to suit most lathes. To

find the best fit for your lathe go to the Tool Selection

page first.. Check out the categories under The Diamond
Tool

Holders below.



www.eccentricengineering.com.au





























From:

[email protected] <[email protected]>

on behalf of Guenther Paul <paulguenter@...>



Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 5:55 PM



To: [email protected]



Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA

?



if you check the specifications it will tell you what

size tool holder to use For a 9A I would use a axa







GP







--------------------------------------------



On Tue, 1/15/19, Andrei <calciu1@...>

wrote:







Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA



To: "[email protected]"

<[email protected]>



Date: Tuesday, January 15, 2019, 5:44 PM















James, I tried to figure out those Diamond tangential

tool



holders. The manufacturer lists the sizes based on tool



height in mm and none of them make any sense to me. How

did



you figure which size holder was good for your South Bend

9A



and Which was was good



for your 12" Atlas??























I want to order one for each of my machines, but I am



stumped by the Australian website. Please, help.?











From:



[email protected]

<[email protected]>



on behalf of James Rice <james.rice@...>







Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 1:37 PM







To: [email protected]







Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA



?















I have an



AXA on mine and on my South Bend 9A as well so I can



appreciate you wanting to share holders and tooling

between



lathes as that is what I do as well.? My larger lathe is

a



South Bend 16 so I use a CXA post and



holders on it.? It is close to the border between using

a



CA or a CXA.? I went CXA as I don't tend to hog out



things on the lathe and the price difference between CA

and



CXA set and holders is huge!? I have a few friends who

have



Atlas lathes, one has a BXA



and loves it, the others have AXA sets so I can't

help



you with an informed opinion.? I think I've used my



rocker post twice in the last 11 years.















As far as



the tangential tool holders that were mentioned above,

they



are my go to bit holder for all my lathes.? I have made

one



for my Atlas 618, I bought a Diamond set and a pair

Wimberly



holders for my 12" and 9A and



have been making a set for my South Bend 16 that will

take



either a 3/8" or 1/2" square tool bit.? I may

buy



a Diamond 20 set for the SB16 depending upon how my

shopmade



versions turn out.? Wimberly doesn't offer a holder

for



my 16" lathe.















James



















On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 7:56 AM ksierens



<ksierens@...>



wrote:























Jody,



?



A number of problems.?



The lantern tool post is centered on the compound, so the



forces during cutting are straight down, as opposed to

using



a QCTP when the tool is hung? far from the centerline of



the tool post. Second, you would need



to duplicate the high positive rake of a tool like it is



when you are using a lantern tool holder, but, if you

were



to grind a HSS tool with the same geometry and hold it in

a



QCTP, it will be much better.? I do not have a

tangential



(diamond) tool holder,



but that should give you good result, but I still feel a



lantern toolholder is still a much more rigid setup, but

not



convenient.



?



?



?



?











From:



[email protected]

<[email protected]>



On Behalf Of Jody







Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 8:34 AM







To: [email protected]







Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or



BXA











?



Kurt,







What if you used that



same HSS roughing tool in the QCTP???











?











Are others finding that



large cuts on hard steel are more difficult with QCTP.?

I



haven't had experience with both in doing large



cuts.











-Jody























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From: ksierens <ksierens@...>











Date: 1/14/19 10:00 PM (GMT-06:00)







To: [email protected]











Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA































I have an AXA from CDCO,



and love it. I will say do not get rid of the lantern

tool



post if you have one though. The more I use my old

machines,



the more I realize they are best used how they were



intended. I was roughing in a part yesterday



of 12L14, and with a nice sharp HSS roughing tool, can



easily take a 0.050 deep (0.100 on the diameter) with

very



little strain on my lathe. Even with W-1 I can take at

0.030



deep cut. Now I use my QCTP, it's not going anywhere,



and you cant beat the convenience,



just saying, they tear off the material instead of

cutting



it. The old guys knew what they were talking



about.











?











Kurt S











?











?











?















Sent via the Samsung



Galaxy S7, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone















?











?











-------- Original



message --------











From: Dan and Marlene



Coleman <dan_marlene@...>















Date: 1/14/19 8:52 PM



(GMT-05:00)











To:



[email protected]











Subject:



[atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA











?











I want to switch QC tool



posts for something I can easily find extra holders.

Looking



at the Aloris fit chart an AXA is called out for all

Atlas



lathes. It looks like a BXA would also fit. What size are



you using with your 12" Atlas.



I'm leaning toward the BXA because I could also



transfer this tooling to my 13" lathe later. My only



concern is the bulk of the tooling limiting getting close



the tailstock. I am currently using surplus mini lathe



tooling with the post measuring 2.5 x 2.5"



with a spacer on the bottom. Thanks in advance for your



input.







Dan Coleman

 

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I believe they are the same type of tool.? They both cut tangential to the part.

?

Kurt S

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Jody
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 8:34 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA

?

So is the Diamond tool a better option than a Wimberley tool?

?

I've heard great things about those as well.? They both look like they can do a great job.? Maybe the Diamond can hog more off at a time.

?

Just curious.

-Jody



-------- Original message --------
From: harpanet13 <harpanet1@...>
Date: 1/16/19 6:51 AM (GMT-06:00)
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA

I believe Village Press is the US distributor for these tools.
 

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Same tool, different brand and esthetic

Get

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Jody <jp4lsu@...>
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 8:33:44 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA
?
So is the Diamond tool a better option than a Wimberley tool?

I've heard great things about those as well.? They both look like they can do a great job.? Maybe the Diamond can hog more off at a time.

Just curious.
-Jody


-------- Original message --------
From: harpanet13 <harpanet1@...>
Date: 1/16/19 6:51 AM (GMT-06:00)
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA

I believe Village Press is the US distributor for these tools.
 

I own a few Diamond cutters and use them almost all the time. Work great with my Phase II BXA QCTP on my A/C 12”.

Rick
James Rice
 

They are in the same class of tool, the tangential tool holder but they are totally different.? Different bit geometry and design.? Neither one is better in my 6 years of experience of using both. In different situations and materials, I use each.? On 416 stainless the Diamond gives a better finish. On 41L40 or 12L14 it's pretty close to a wash.? Sometimes I'll not be satisfied with the finish I'm getting with one holder or another on some piece of mystery metal so if I switch types it will improve dramatically.? No clue why it just works that way.? I find the bit for the Diamond is easier to sharpen and grind but that may be due to the grinding jig supplied by Eccentric Engineering.? My Diamond sets use 1/4" square bits, the Wimberley uses 3/16" bits.? I wish I had bought the mini holder from Diamond while they still offered it as I really would like a 1/8" bit holder for the Atlas 6x18 but it's been discontinued.??

Yes, Village Press bought Baycom out when the owners wanted to retire so they are repping the Eccentric Engineering line in the US.

On Wed, Jan 16, 2019 at 7:34 AM Jody <jp4lsu@...> wrote:
So is the Diamond tool a better option than a Wimberley tool?

I've heard great things about those as well.? They both look like they can do a great job.? Maybe the Diamond can hog more off at a time.

Just curious.
-Jody


-------- Original message --------
From: harpanet13 <harpanet1@...>
Date: 1/16/19 6:51 AM (GMT-06:00)
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA

I believe Village Press is the US distributor for these tools.
 

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Thank you for all the info James.
I know the Wimberley isn't terribly expensive, but I haven't looked at the Diamond prices.

I thought the Wimberley used 1/4" bits.?
Thanks again,
Jody


-------- Original message --------
From: James Rice <james.rice@...>
Date: 1/16/19 2:44 PM (GMT-06:00)
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA

They are in the same class of tool, the tangential tool holder but they are totally different.? Different bit geometry and design.? Neither one is better in my 6 years of experience of using both. In different situations and materials, I use each.? On 416 stainless the Diamond gives a better finish. On 41L40 or 12L14 it's pretty close to a wash.? Sometimes I'll not be satisfied with the finish I'm getting with one holder or another on some piece of mystery metal so if I switch types it will improve dramatically.? No clue why it just works that way.? I find the bit for the Diamond is easier to sharpen and grind but that may be due to the grinding jig supplied by Eccentric Engineering.? My Diamond sets use 1/4" square bits, the Wimberley uses 3/16" bits.? I wish I had bought the mini holder from Diamond while they still offered it as I really would like a 1/8" bit holder for the Atlas 6x18 but it's been discontinued.??

Yes, Village Press bought Baycom out when the owners wanted to retire so they are repping the Eccentric Engineering line in the US.

On Wed, Jan 16, 2019 at 7:34 AM Jody <jp4lsu@...> wrote:
So is the Diamond tool a better option than a Wimberley tool?

I've heard great things about those as well.? They both look like they can do a great job.? Maybe the Diamond can hog more off at a time.

Just curious.
-Jody


-------- Original message --------
From: harpanet13 <harpanet1@...>
Date: 1/16/19 6:51 AM (GMT-06:00)
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA

I believe Village Press is the US distributor for these tools.
James Rice
 

The Wimberley toolholders I have take 3/16" square bits. They may have changed as these are 5-6 years old.

James

On Wed, Jan 16, 2019 at 3:32 PM Jody <jp4lsu@...> wrote:
Thank you for all the info James.
I know the Wimberley isn't terribly expensive, but I haven't looked at the Diamond prices.

I thought the Wimberley used 1/4" bits.?
Thanks again,
Jody


-------- Original message --------
From: James Rice <james.rice@...>
Date: 1/16/19 2:44 PM (GMT-06:00)
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA

They are in the same class of tool, the tangential tool holder but they are totally different.? Different bit geometry and design.? Neither one is better in my 6 years of experience of using both. In different situations and materials, I use each.? On 416 stainless the Diamond gives a better finish. On 41L40 or 12L14 it's pretty close to a wash.? Sometimes I'll not be satisfied with the finish I'm getting with one holder or another on some piece of mystery metal so if I switch types it will improve dramatically.? No clue why it just works that way.? I find the bit for the Diamond is easier to sharpen and grind but that may be due to the grinding jig supplied by Eccentric Engineering.? My Diamond sets use 1/4" square bits, the Wimberley uses 3/16" bits.? I wish I had bought the mini holder from Diamond while they still offered it as I really would like a 1/8" bit holder for the Atlas 6x18 but it's been discontinued.??

Yes, Village Press bought Baycom out when the owners wanted to retire so they are repping the Eccentric Engineering line in the US.

On Wed, Jan 16, 2019 at 7:34 AM Jody <jp4lsu@...> wrote:
So is the Diamond tool a better option than a Wimberley tool?

I've heard great things about those as well.? They both look like they can do a great job.? Maybe the Diamond can hog more off at a time.

Just curious.
-Jody


-------- Original message --------
From: harpanet13 <harpanet1@...>
Date: 1/16/19 6:51 AM (GMT-06:00)
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA

I believe Village Press is the US distributor for these tools.
James Rice
 

I just checked online and according to the pdf use manual they have linked, they still use 3/16" square blanks.



James


On Wed, Jan 16, 2019 at 3:32 PM Jody <jp4lsu@...> wrote:
Thank you for all the info James.
I know the Wimberley isn't terribly expensive, but I haven't looked at the Diamond prices.

I thought the Wimberley used 1/4" bits.?
Thanks again,
Jody


-------- Original message --------
From: James Rice <james.rice@...>
Date: 1/16/19 2:44 PM (GMT-06:00)
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA

They are in the same class of tool, the tangential tool holder but they are totally different.? Different bit geometry and design.? Neither one is better in my 6 years of experience of using both. In different situations and materials, I use each.? On 416 stainless the Diamond gives a better finish. On 41L40 or 12L14 it's pretty close to a wash.? Sometimes I'll not be satisfied with the finish I'm getting with one holder or another on some piece of mystery metal so if I switch types it will improve dramatically.? No clue why it just works that way.? I find the bit for the Diamond is easier to sharpen and grind but that may be due to the grinding jig supplied by Eccentric Engineering.? My Diamond sets use 1/4" square bits, the Wimberley uses 3/16" bits.? I wish I had bought the mini holder from Diamond while they still offered it as I really would like a 1/8" bit holder for the Atlas 6x18 but it's been discontinued.??

Yes, Village Press bought Baycom out when the owners wanted to retire so they are repping the Eccentric Engineering line in the US.

On Wed, Jan 16, 2019 at 7:34 AM Jody <jp4lsu@...> wrote:
So is the Diamond tool a better option than a Wimberley tool?

I've heard great things about those as well.? They both look like they can do a great job.? Maybe the Diamond can hog more off at a time.

Just curious.
-Jody


-------- Original message --------
From: harpanet13 <harpanet1@...>
Date: 1/16/19 6:51 AM (GMT-06:00)
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA

I believe Village Press is the US distributor for these tools.
 

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Two Diamond holders (Left and Right) and a grinding jig for the bit run $129 plus shipping from Australia. I am going to guess it will cost between 20 and 50 bucks for shipping, depending on how fast you want it delivered (20 by sea and 50 by air, maybe?). For our US members the shipping follow the old addage: "one if by land and two if by sea" ?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Jody <jp4lsu@...>
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 4:12 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA
?
Thank you for all the info James.
I know the Wimberley isn't terribly expensive, but I haven't looked at the Diamond prices.

I thought the Wimberley used 1/4" bits.?
Thanks again,
Jody


-------- Original message --------
From: James Rice <james.rice@...>
Date: 1/16/19 2:44 PM (GMT-06:00)
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA

They are in the same class of tool, the tangential tool holder but they are totally different.? Different bit geometry and design.? Neither one is better in my 6 years of experience of using both. In different situations and materials, I use each.? On 416 stainless the Diamond gives a better finish. On 41L40 or 12L14 it's pretty close to a wash.? Sometimes I'll not be satisfied with the finish I'm getting with one holder or another on some piece of mystery metal so if I switch types it will improve dramatically.? No clue why it just works that way.? I find the bit for the Diamond is easier to sharpen and grind but that may be due to the grinding jig supplied by Eccentric Engineering.? My Diamond sets use 1/4" square bits, the Wimberley uses 3/16" bits.? I wish I had bought the mini holder from Diamond while they still offered it as I really would like a 1/8" bit holder for the Atlas 6x18 but it's been discontinued.??

Yes, Village Press bought Baycom out when the owners wanted to retire so they are repping the Eccentric Engineering line in the US.

On Wed, Jan 16, 2019 at 7:34 AM Jody <jp4lsu@...> wrote:
So is the Diamond tool a better option than a Wimberley tool?

I've heard great things about those as well.? They both look like they can do a great job.? Maybe the Diamond can hog more off at a time.

Just curious.
-Jody


-------- Original message --------
From: harpanet13 <harpanet1@...>
Date: 1/16/19 6:51 AM (GMT-06:00)
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA

I believe Village Press is the US distributor for these tools.
 

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Thanks Andrei.
That's pretty steep. Sure the grinding jig makes things nice but $200 is a chunk.
-Jody


-------- Original message --------
From: Andrei <calciu1@...>
Date: 1/16/19 4:18 PM (GMT-06:00)
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA

Two Diamond holders (Left and Right) and a grinding jig for the bit run $129 plus shipping from Australia. I am going to guess it will cost between 20 and 50 bucks for shipping, depending on how fast you want it delivered (20 by sea and 50 by air, maybe?). For our US members the shipping follow the old addage: "one if by land and two if by sea" ?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Jody <jp4lsu@...>
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 4:12 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA
?
Thank you for all the info James.
I know the Wimberley isn't terribly expensive, but I haven't looked at the Diamond prices.

I thought the Wimberley used 1/4" bits.?
Thanks again,
Jody


-------- Original message --------
From: James Rice <james.rice@...>
Date: 1/16/19 2:44 PM (GMT-06:00)
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA

They are in the same class of tool, the tangential tool holder but they are totally different.? Different bit geometry and design.? Neither one is better in my 6 years of experience of using both. In different situations and materials, I use each.? On 416 stainless the Diamond gives a better finish. On 41L40 or 12L14 it's pretty close to a wash.? Sometimes I'll not be satisfied with the finish I'm getting with one holder or another on some piece of mystery metal so if I switch types it will improve dramatically.? No clue why it just works that way.? I find the bit for the Diamond is easier to sharpen and grind but that may be due to the grinding jig supplied by Eccentric Engineering.? My Diamond sets use 1/4" square bits, the Wimberley uses 3/16" bits.? I wish I had bought the mini holder from Diamond while they still offered it as I really would like a 1/8" bit holder for the Atlas 6x18 but it's been discontinued.??

Yes, Village Press bought Baycom out when the owners wanted to retire so they are repping the Eccentric Engineering line in the US.

On Wed, Jan 16, 2019 at 7:34 AM Jody <jp4lsu@...> wrote:
So is the Diamond tool a better option than a Wimberley tool?

I've heard great things about those as well.? They both look like they can do a great job.? Maybe the Diamond can hog more off at a time.

Just curious.
-Jody


-------- Original message --------
From: harpanet13 <harpanet1@...>
Date: 1/16/19 6:51 AM (GMT-06:00)
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA

I believe Village Press is the US distributor for these tools.
 

开云体育

Thanks for checking that James.
Guess i'll need some 3/16 HSS if I buy one.
-Jody


-------- Original message --------
From: James Rice <james.rice@...>
Date: 1/16/19 4:12 PM (GMT-06:00)
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA

I just checked online and according to the pdf use manual they have linked, they still use 3/16" square blanks.



James

On Wed, Jan 16, 2019 at 3:32 PM Jody <jp4lsu@...> wrote:
Thank you for all the info James.
I know the Wimberley isn't terribly expensive, but I haven't looked at the Diamond prices.

I thought the Wimberley used 1/4" bits.?
Thanks again,
Jody


-------- Original message --------
From: James Rice <james.rice@...>
Date: 1/16/19 2:44 PM (GMT-06:00)
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA

They are in the same class of tool, the tangential tool holder but they are totally different.? Different bit geometry and design.? Neither one is better in my 6 years of experience of using both. In different situations and materials, I use each.? On 416 stainless the Diamond gives a better finish. On 41L40 or 12L14 it's pretty close to a wash.? Sometimes I'll not be satisfied with the finish I'm getting with one holder or another on some piece of mystery metal so if I switch types it will improve dramatically.? No clue why it just works that way.? I find the bit for the Diamond is easier to sharpen and grind but that may be due to the grinding jig supplied by Eccentric Engineering.? My Diamond sets use 1/4" square bits, the Wimberley uses 3/16" bits.? I wish I had bought the mini holder from Diamond while they still offered it as I really would like a 1/8" bit holder for the Atlas 6x18 but it's been discontinued.??

Yes, Village Press bought Baycom out when the owners wanted to retire so they are repping the Eccentric Engineering line in the US.

On Wed, Jan 16, 2019 at 7:34 AM Jody <jp4lsu@...> wrote:
So is the Diamond tool a better option than a Wimberley tool?

I've heard great things about those as well.? They both look like they can do a great job.? Maybe the Diamond can hog more off at a time.

Just curious.
-Jody


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From: harpanet13 <harpanet1@...>
Date: 1/16/19 6:51 AM (GMT-06:00)
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA

I believe Village Press is the US distributor for these tools.
James Rice
 

I bought the 9.5mm version back when it was called a A9.5.? It was listed for lathes of 9" to 12" swing.? I didn't have the South Bend 9A back then but I felt the next size they carried was a B16 was going to be too large for the Atlas Craftsman 12x36.? As it turned out the 9.5 size has been perfect for both lathes.? What I wish I had purchased at the time was a T6 or 6mm version that takes a 1/8" bit. It was for a 3" to 6" swing lathe which would have been perfect for my 6x18 Atlas-Craftsman lathe. I later bought a set of the new style 9.5mm holders which have a different angle on the tool holder compared to the older version but use the same bit geometry.? I think I'm about to order a 20mm set for my South Bend 16" but I'm going to continue my project to make several of my own type of holder just to see how they turn out.??

I haven't been spending much time in the shop for the past couple of years.? I spent the last 4 years at the local community college taking 4 semesters of welding and 3 semesters of auto body classes.? I have this spring semester to go and I'll be finished with the auto body courses and will receive associated degrees number 3 and 4 in May as well as the 3 AWS welding certifications I've already earned. So I've been thinking about new shop projects to tackle and old ones to finish.? To forward those intentions, I recently purchased 20 bars of 1-3/8"x72" 41L40 steel as well as 5-600# of 416SS and 41L40 cutoffs the same diameter and in assorted lengths of 3" to 12" from a gun receiver maker who advertised them on Craigslist for $5 a bar.? He sold me the lot of cutoffs for $20 dollars more.? Since the going rate for a 1-3/8"x72" bar of 41L40 is $185 and the rate for 416SS bar is $6.25 an inch at the metal suppliers, I jumped on it. The guy originally had almost 100 bars to sell but some other hobby machinists got there first so I took what he had left.? It was close to half a ton of oil hardening and free machining tool and stainless steel for a bargain price. So as my lovely wife puts it, "I have some more innocent pieces of metal to torture".?

James?

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