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On Sun, 1/6/19, Dave Matticks <dpm100@...> wrote:

Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] Royal live center
To: [email protected]
Date: Sunday, January 6, 2019, 5:15 PM

Like shitOn January 6,
2019 at 4:12 PM Guenther Paul <paulguenter@...>
wrote:

Dave
Got to ask. How does a turd smell

GP

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On Sun, 1/6/19, Dave Matticks
<dpm100@...> wrote:

Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] Royal live
center
To: [email protected]
Date: Sunday, January 6, 2019, 4:45 PM

You can establish standards
and sell the ISO
whatever stickers to make
it sound impressive but it
doesn't
always go that way! Been there many times.

Socket head cap screws for example, certified but the heads

pop off during installation! Dead blow
hammers, spend $25 or
$30 and it'll
last a good long time. The Chinesium ones

last a couple months, maybe. I could go on but I
won't.If it looks, feels and smells like

a turd, it's a turd.Lively off topic

discussion though, nice.DaveOn January 6,
2019 at 12:01 PM Andrei

<calciu1@...> wrote:

You can make super
good
parts anywhere in the world. All you have to do is
establish the standards and enforce them. The
race to the
lower price is generally a
loser for anyone.

Get
Outlook for
Android

From:
[email protected]
<[email protected]>
on
behalf of Guenther Paul <paulguenter@...>
Sent: Sunday, January 6, 2019
10:40:44 AM
To:
[email protected]


Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] Royal

live center?I am firm believer to buy
Original American made replacement parts. I
did find that
the American brand bearings
are made in china as well so how
can you
change that. I bean buying bearings from VXB
Bearings on line, so far I have no complaints
with them and
yes they are china made.
Mercedes makes
all there
crank shafts in china, I saw a video that plant is
so clean one can eat of the floor so now the
oldest car
maker in the world making there
main part of there engines
in china there
is something wrong with the process

GP


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On Sun, 1/6/19, Dave
Matticks
<dpm100@...> wrote:


Subject: Re:
[atlas-craftsman IO] Royal live
center
To: [email protected]
Date: Sunday, January 6, 2019, 10:27 AM

I used the same bearing,
good clean up and new
grease
did the
trick.A good new bearing
isn't real
cheap.
McMaster has them around $40.00 for

the 3202 open bearing, Chinese are cheaper
but......I have a
Czech made center
that's ok but wanted


to use the original!DaveOn January 6, 2019 at 9:19 AM
Guenther Paul

<paulguenter@...>
wrote:

Nice job Dave
Looks like new
again. Did

you make sure you have the proper bearing
a
pressure bearing ? How much was the
bearing. I
have a live

center I made years ago need
to replace
bearing on it


GP

apart
as you may have
noticed!

I drilled and tapped two 10-32
holes in
the
front cover plate and used a
slide hammer to
pull it out,
not necessary
as that didn't
really help in
the end and I
had to make a

new
replacement!
Anyway, the od of
the point on mine is around .740. Put a
3/4" shaft
collar on it

leaving a gap
between
that and the body
and use
2
screwdrivers/
pry bars, whatever to extract the tip.The

shank is separate, use maybe
a 1/2"


diameter pin to push that out. I used my
10 ton Dake screw

press,
it's on a taper
so when it
pops,

it's out.
Put a box of rags or
something under it so it doesn't
get
damaged.Then flip it
over and use

something
around 5/8"
diameter to press out the bearing

along with the front cover.

Easy!
It uses a double row angular

contact bearing, 3202 I
believe. I was able to remove the

cages intact for a good
cleaning.Old
hardened grease was the
problem. Looks almost


new and runs
like

new.?Polish everything



up and put it back together. I first used


NLGI #2, had to do
it again, too much drag

so I switched to a Lithium #1. Shell
Gadus
S3 V220C1 to be exact,

couple dollars at McMaster. I
love that
place and
they're about 2 miles
from
my house!
Don't use
white lithium
and don't over pack.
My
youngest son

was USAF,

now he's Air National Guard
and a high

school
"industrial


technology"
teacher, AKA machine


shop.?
Hope
this helps.


Dave

On January 5, 2019

at
7:21 PM "Bill in OKC
too via
Groups.Io"



<wmrmeyers@...>

wrote:

I may have
something at work

I can
borrow, if necessary.
I've made
some
small
parts
for them, so my boss is
good about loaniong tools. Get
yourself
settled, and take

your time. I retired from the
USAF over 20
years ago, but
still remember
being

jetlagged
after getting home from
some long trips.


Bill in OKC



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On Sat, 1/5/19, Dave
Matticks


<dpm100@...> wrote:


Subject: Re:
[atlas-craftsman IO] Royal live
center
To:

[email protected]
Date: Saturday,

January 5, 2019, 6:40 PM



Hi

Bill, I

have more pics
and can tell you the first


try way

and the easy way
to get it apart! Just
got home from
Iceland
yesterday but I'll
try
to do

something
tomorrow.? Mine
is
nice
and smooth now

and runs

out less than

.0002". You're

going to have to

invest
in a
3/4" 2
piece
shaft collar


though, 1 piece clamp on could work as well.

Set screw
collars are

garbage. Dave



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my T-Mobile 4G LTE
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message --------From:


"Bill in OKC too via

Groups.Io"

<wmrmeyers@...>

Date: 1/5/19 18:16
(GMT-06:00) To:


[email protected]

Subject: Re:


[atlas-craftsman IO] Royal
live center

Dave,I


only see
one pic, and I'm VERY

interested because I got
one

with my SB

10L lathe,
and mine is more
than "a


little crunchy."
Poor
baby spent some years in an open

barn. More photos would be

welcome. More
info on how you got
it
apart, too. Mine
spent a few days soaking
in

evaporust

after a day

in purple power degreaser. Still real
crunchy. I


have a small
arbor press in
the home shop,
and a 20-ton
HF
hydraulic
press
available
at
work.
Looks like I'll need
a
new
bearing, from your photo.?




Thanks
for
a really
timely

post!
Bill


in OKC





On
Sat, Jan 5, 2019 at 5:50


PM, Dave





Matticks<dpm100@...> wrote:




Hi
guys,?
I have a
Royal

Products , Regal live center that
either came
with or was

purchased along with my
dad's lathe.
Whatever,

first one
I

ever used.?
Recently
rebuilt it. Nothing



wrong
except for the
crunchy

bearings due
to dried up?
grease.?




Couple pics of the
process.?


Dave