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Re: Royal live center


 

Dave
Got to ask. How does a turd smell

GP

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On Sun, 1/6/19, Dave Matticks <dpm100@...> wrote:

Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] Royal live center
To: [email protected]
Date: Sunday, January 6, 2019, 4:45 PM

You can establish standards and sell the ISO
whatever stickers to make it sound impressive but it
doesn't always go that way! Been there many times.
Socket head cap screws for example, certified but the heads
pop off during installation! Dead blow hammers, spend $25 or
$30 and it'll last a good long time. The Chinesium ones
last a couple months, maybe. I could go on but I
won't.If it looks, feels and smells like
a turd, it's a turd.Lively off topic
discussion though, nice.DaveOn January 6, 2019 at 12:01 PM Andrei
<calciu1@...> wrote:

You can make super
good parts anywhere in the world. All you have to do is
establish the standards and enforce them. The race to the
lower price is generally a loser for anyone.

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From:
[email protected] <[email protected]>
on behalf of Guenther Paul <paulguenter@...>
Sent: Sunday, January 6, 2019
10:40:44 AM
To:
[email protected]

Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] Royal
live center?I am firm believer to buy
Original American made replacement parts. I did find that
the American brand bearings are made in china as well so how
can you change that. I bean buying bearings from VXB
Bearings on line, so far I have no complaints with them and
yes they are china made.
Mercedes makes
all there crank shafts in china, I saw a video that plant is
so clean one can eat of the floor so now the oldest car
maker in the world making there main part of there engines
in china there is something wrong with the process

GP

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On Sun, 1/6/19, Dave Matticks
<dpm100@...> wrote:

Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] Royal live
center
To: [email protected]
Date: Sunday, January 6, 2019, 10:27 AM

I used the same bearing,
good clean up and new
grease did the
trick.A good new bearing
isn't real
cheap. McMaster has them around $40.00 for

the 3202 open bearing, Chinese are cheaper but......I have a
Czech made center that's ok but wanted

to use the original!DaveOn January 6, 2019 at 9:19 AM
Guenther Paul
<paulguenter@...>
wrote:

Nice job Dave
Looks like new
again. Did
you make sure you have the proper bearing a
pressure bearing ? How much was the bearing. I
have a live
center I made years ago need
to replace bearing on it


GP

apart as you may have
noticed!
I drilled and tapped two 10-32
holes in the
front cover plate and used a
slide hammer to
pull it out, not necessary
as that didn't
really help in
the end and I had to make a

new replacement!
Anyway, the od of
the point on mine is around .740. Put a
3/4" shaft
collar on it
leaving a gap
between that and the body
and use
2
screwdrivers/
pry bars, whatever to extract the tip.The

shank is separate, use maybe a 1/2"


diameter pin to push that out. I used my
10 ton Dake screw

press,
it's on a taper so when it
pops,
it's out.
Put a box of rags or
something under it so it doesn't
get
damaged.Then flip it
over and use

something
around 5/8" diameter to press out the bearing

along with the front cover.
Easy!
It uses a double row angular

contact bearing, 3202 I
believe. I was able to remove the

cages intact for a good cleaning.Old
hardened grease was the problem. Looks almost

new and runs
like
new.?Polish everything


up and put it back together. I first used

NLGI #2, had to do
it again, too much drag

so I switched to a Lithium #1. Shell
Gadus
S3 V220C1 to be exact,
couple dollars at McMaster. I
love that
place and they're about 2 miles
from
my house!
Don't use white lithium
and don't over pack.
My
youngest son

was USAF,
now he's Air National Guard
and a high
school
"industrial

technology" teacher, AKA machine

shop.?
Hope
this helps.

Dave
On January 5, 2019

at 7:21 PM "Bill in OKC
too via
Groups.Io"


<wmrmeyers@...>
wrote:

I may have
something at work

I can
borrow, if necessary. I've made
some
small parts
for them, so my boss is
good about loaniong tools. Get
yourself
settled, and take
your time. I retired from the
USAF over 20
years ago, but still remember
being
jetlagged
after getting home from
some long trips.


Bill in OKC


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On Sat, 1/5/19, Dave
Matticks

<dpm100@...> wrote:


Subject: Re:
[atlas-craftsman IO] Royal live
center
To:
[email protected]
Date: Saturday,
January 5, 2019, 6:40 PM


Hi
Bill, I

have more pics and can tell you the first


try way
and the easy way
to get it apart! Just
got home from
Iceland
yesterday but I'll
try to do

something tomorrow.? Mine
is
nice and smooth now

and runs
out less than

.0002". You're
going to have to

invest in a
3/4" 2
piece shaft collar


though, 1 piece clamp on could work as well.
Set screw
collars are
garbage. Dave



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Date: 1/5/19 18:16
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Subject: Re:


[atlas-craftsman IO] Royal live center

Dave,I


only see one pic, and I'm VERY

interested because I got
one
with my SB

10L lathe,
and mine is more than "a


little crunchy."
Poor baby spent some years in an open

barn. More photos would be
welcome. More
info on how you got
it
apart, too. Mine
spent a few days soaking
in
evaporust

after a day

in purple power degreaser. Still real
crunchy. I

have a small
arbor press in
the home shop,
and a 20-ton HF
hydraulic
press available
at
work.
Looks like I'll need
a new
bearing, from your photo.?




Thanks
for a really
timely

post!
Bill

in OKC




On Sat, Jan 5, 2019 at 5:50

PM, Dave




Matticks<dpm100@...> wrote:



Hi guys,?
I have a
Royal
Products , Regal live center that
either came
with or was

purchased along with my
dad's lathe.
Whatever,
first one
I

ever used.?
Recently
rebuilt it. Nothing


wrong except for the
crunchy
bearings due
to dried up?
grease.?



Couple pics of the process.?

Dave

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