----- Original Message ----
From: Robin <robinchris@...>
To: Z-Bend_Track@...
Sent: Saturday, December 2, 2006 1:21:52 PM
Subject: [Z-Bend_Track] Re: Wire harness help
Michael,
Where is the list of items for the harnesses posted? Is it in a file
on this forum?
Another question: Some one mentioned that an option would be to buy
an "extension cord" with the pin wiring and just cut the thing in
half. Thereby reducing the time for soldering. Is this possible and
what would be the "extension cord" to buy?
I know these questions illustrate how much I do not understand about
computer, electronic equipment and what pin connector can fit to
another. A case in point: My husband and I want to remove the
wireless router from our computer setup, but are afraid we won't get
the wires pluged back into the correct spaces and then end up with a
non-functioning computer. Sad, silly, but true.
So thank you for your patience and help.
Thanks,
Robin
--- In Z-Bend_Track@ yahoogroups. com, Michael Hilliard <mchwilton@. ..>
wrote:
I posted the parts list, prices, etc. for All Electronics
< ics.com/> , a supplier Bill K. used. For a end
module, instead of the single male/female connector, you could just
use separate ones wired accordingly and just plug the wires into a
single 6 terminal block under the module. This reduces the parts
needing to be gathered. I don't have the double hoods or the PCB's
for end or power harnesses, or the instructions for them, just for
the thru modules.
If you'd prefer me to order the parts for you and have them
shipped directly to you, just send a check for $85.25, enough parts
for 10 thru module harnesses. You'll have to separate the parts into
kits yourself for your various members. I believe I'll have enough
for 3 extra kits out of my latest order if you'd like them @ $15/kit,
including wire + actual shipping, I "think" it would fit into a flat
rate priority mail box. LMK, otherwise I'll place another order for
next week to sell just kits to you.
Michael Hilliard
Loren Snyder <ljsnyder@.. .> wrote:
MIchael,
I need some harness kits also if it isn't too late. I believe Brad
says
that I actually need 1 1/2 straight through kits per T module and I
have two
T's in the making. I also need an end module harness. So I guess I
need 3
straight through and one end harness kit. Can do?
Loren
PS. I have the instructions for the harness kits Robin, so I'll
send you a
copy, OK?
-------Original Message----- --
From: Robin
Date: 11/14/06 17:43:09
To: Z-Bend_Track@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: [Z-Bend_Track] Re: Wire harness help
You are so right about the wire. We can get that here for cheap. We
just don't have a good source for the parts and could use some group
purchase to reduce cost and make sure we get the right things. Also,
if someone could send us a copy of the instructions. I was
disapointed to see that all those nice photos and instructions were
not working on the website.
CZM could use 6 harness kits for the straight through modules. We
also want 1 for an end module eventually.
Thanks, Robin
--- In Z-Bend_Track@ yahoogroups. com, Michael Hilliard <mchwilton@>
wrote:
Hi,
Jeff, if you can make 10 within 2 weeks, the Tri-State Z Scalers
will buy them <seriously>. We need them for our Dec. meet and for a
major train show in Jan.
If not, I plan to order parts tomorrow (Tues. or Wed.) for the
Tri-State Z Scalers, I'd be happy to order enough parts for CZM as
well (less wire, wire is heavy to ship) as long as you let me know
ASAP and I'll ship your parts at cost + acual shipping. I plan to
get
the 18ga speaker wire from Walmart, $8.96/100'. Only differance is
it
is both copper/gold color with a white stripe on one wire. Can still
use the ZBT instructions, just think gold and white stripe when
assembling instead of gold and silver. This seems to be the best
price without buying 1000's of ft. at a time. The parts will not be
as cheap as Bill K's., as I'm not buying by the 100 or 1000 parts at
a time.
Having spoke to Bill K. recently, I don't think we can get
cables/kits from him at this time. It's not that he doesn't want to
help us, he just can't at this time. If you'll notice on the
zbendtrack website, the link to cables is still there, but the link
doesn't work anymore. Luckily I have printed out instructions on how
to assemble them that I can copy for you. I also have a complete
parts list as well. I just can't help with end & power cables yet,
just thru module wiring at this point. I'm not offering to assemble
cables for you now, just get the parts.
LMK, I actually hope you can help Jeff, if not, my offer is open
for the CZM. All Z BeZt,
Michael Hilliard
39 Old Huckleberry Rd.
Wilton, CT 06897
ph. 203-762-2476
Jeff Merrill <sj-baz-man@ > wrote:
If not, I'd be happy to help make some up or help get
parts at cost + mailing.
Jeff
----- Original Message ----
From: Robin <robinchris@ >
To: Z-Bend_Track@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 12:30:21 PM
Subject: [Z-Bend_Track] Re: Wire harness help
Some CZM members are making their first modules and need wiring
harneses. Are the kits with instructions still available for
purchase?
Thanks,
Robin
--- In Z-Bend_Track@ yahoogroups. com, zbendtrack@ .. wrote:
Stu:
There has been a short delay.....
I always thought when you retired from a company, you just
filled
out a few
forms and headed through the doors to retirement.
Oh no.
For the last 4 weeks I've worked harder, and longer hours, than
ever at the
office. "You've got to finish this and that project before you
leave" ...or
worse..."here' s another special project we'd like to have you
do
before you
leave."
Well, Friday is my last day. So I'll have more train time very
shortly.
Cables? I have over $800 in "stuff" for cable assemblies on
hand.
From the
very start, it was never my intention to make any profit ...and
I
never
did....and won't start now. It was just a z-friendly effort to
help model train
people find parts they probably didn't know where to buy.
Actually, any ZBT cable can be built up with one stop at Radio
Shack (or Dick
Smith). But you probably wouldn't like the price much as mine.
I've been
buying in multiples of 100 (or more) and with only one shipping
charge to your
door it was cheaper to get the stuff from me.
Its five years of soldering that was my undoing. Too many "F"
letters. What
started out as Fun and a Favor turned into a Factory operation.
In
my N
scale days, everyone knew how to solder, but not so in Z as I
found
out. Charging
5 bucks per hour for my soldering time didn't help much either
(all
my own
train time was spent soldering for others because I priced my
time
too cheap).
But after two miles (4.7 kilometers) of soldered cables and five
years, I just
got tired. Sorry. I've got some modules I'm dying to build in
the
days
ahead.
What I plan to do is to get the entire family involved in
a "bagging"
operation and make up bagged "sets of parts" available (at cost)
in
a number of
ways/outlets complete with printed instructions. And hope to at
least get most of
my parts costs out.
But the extra workload at the office derailed me and that goal.
Patience, please. One of my goals is to publish all my parts
sources so
anyone can get the same components I buy, directly, at the "one
each" price. I'm
pretty careful and picky on what I've been buying to insure zero
problems when
it all plugs together, and over years of use.
Bill Kronenberger
Houston
I understand the gentleman who was making the cable harness
for
the module
has moved on
in this endevor. Does anyone have a list for part numbers for
the
shells and
power connector
shell from digikey, mouser or the like.
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