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Hello, I¡¯m selling most of my 1970¡¯s Lionel HO. If anyone is interested, please send me a pm and I¡¯ll send a list. I¡¯m looking to sell blocks of stuff at very good prices. I need the shelf space for other stuff. Thanx for reading.

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Re: Rivarossi FEF-3

Nathan Rich
 

It does seem to have enough power, but I want smoothness... can you give me more data on your Sagami conversion?

I also picked up a Big Boy at the same time, it has a center Can motor that is butter so it doesnt need messed with. The both pf them need new tires though, they've thrown their originals. Tires I can handle, I have a source, and I will make a post when it gets done.?

Thank you!
Nathan Rich?

On Jan 25, 2018 23:54, "greenbrier614@... [yardbirdtrains]" <yardbirdtrains@...> wrote:


Nathan,

The motor in the FEF-3 is the large one in all of their UP large steam and is actually quite powerful and cool running, but... it only has three poles.

I fit a sizeable Sagami in mine. It mounted easily on the original mount. There's a lot of room in that firebox.

http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t131/NickelPlate759/Rivarossi%20FEF3/DSCF1251800x600.jpg

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Nelson





Re: Rivarossi FEF-3

 

Nathan,

The motor in the FEF-3 is the large one in all of their UP large steam and is actually quite powerful and cool running, but... it only has three poles.

I fit a sizeable Sagami in mine. It mounted easily on the original mount. There's a lot of room in that firebox.

http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t131/NickelPlate759/Rivarossi%20FEF3/DSCF1251800x600.jpg

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Nelson


Cary Decapod ?

 

I'm working on many projects now , I'll get Mary to show me how to download a pic of this one . I have another to compare it to ? Most notable is no rear cab wall and windows .. Former owner did a nice job putting on a modern front . Henry H


Re: Prayers for my sick Wife ?

 

You've got our prayers!

Regards,
Walter

On Sun, Jan 21, 2018 at 2:01 PM, huligin62@... [yardbirdtrains] <yardbirdtrains@...> wrote:
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Need all of your prayers for Mary, serious surgery on 30 Jan. !! Thanks all !



Prayers for my sick Wife ?

 

Need all of your prayers for Mary, serious surgery on 30 Jan. !! Thanks all !


Re: Rivarossi FEF-3

 

Nathan , you will run into problems with some of those AHM ? RivRossi motors. They really don't like heat / heavy loading . You can go to NORTH WEST SHORT LINE for data and dimensions ?? stock up on aspirins as it'll give you a headache !! Look up high rpm , 5 or 7 poles , trim frame , mount in bathroom caulk ?????? Henry H.
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On Sun, 1/21/18, Nathan Rich thaddeusthudpucker@... [yardbirdtrains] <yardbirdtrains@...> wrote:

Subject: [yardbirdtrains] Rivarossi FEF-3
To: yardbirdtrains@...
Date: Sunday, January 21, 2018, 1:59 AM


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Hey gang-
I just got a Rivarossi FEF-3 at the
train show today and I notice that while it has the RP-25
flanges, it seems to have the older design of motor. As
such, I find its performance to be a little
lacking.
Has anyone on
the list updated one of those motors? It would appear to be
easy to drop a can motor in but I would like to compare
notes.?
It seems to
also want some tender pickups and to want a new headlight,
but that will come in due course.?
As an aside, I finished the AHM
repower, I will be making a dedicated post to detail the
process in the near future, or, when I have my desk cleaned
off enough to write it as a magazine how-to
article.
Nathan
Rich?











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Rivarossi FEF-3

Nathan Rich
 

Hey gang-

I just got a Rivarossi FEF-3 at the train show today and I notice that while it has the RP-25 flanges, it seems to have the older design of motor. As such, I find its performance to be a little lacking.

Has anyone on the list updated one of those motors? It would appear to be easy to drop a can motor in but I would like to compare notes.?

It seems to also want some tender pickups and to want a new headlight, but that will come in due course.?

As an aside, I finished the AHM repower, I will be making a dedicated post to detail the process in the near future, or, when I have my desk cleaned off enough to write it as a magazine how-to article.

Nathan Rich?


Re: Teardown Instructions - Rivarossi Milwaukee F-7 4-6-4

 

These Hiawathas were 90's runs, and they had very good Japanese can motors made by Igarashi. The old Riv made motors were made for cab mounting, and had one mesh brush and disk type commutators with wide gaps that did generate a fair amount of arcing and RF hash. Rivarossi did make noise suppression kits with chokes and capacitors -- in fact I have a few from a parts lot -- but they were for the European market. All European model trains there had them, maybe because homes there were more tightly spaced and RFI was a big issue?

One thing to be aware of with these 90's runs is that they switched to a white grease that turned to dried spackle in a very short amount of time, and on the Pacifics in particular this led to the plastic worm gear pin shearing off in the gearbox. The old grease should be completely removed if possible, but adding oil (I find Super Lube works best) can revive it if it isn't completely solidified.

Nelson


Re: Teardown Instructions - Rivarossi Milwaukee F-7 4-6-4

 

The reason I know of all this noise is because I had my radio on a weak AM station? , those motors made lots of emi . Back when there was a kit for supperssion from AHM ? A choke was used across the poles of the motor ? I don't know the specs ? Henry H.


Re: Teardown Instructions - Rivarossi Milwaukee F-7 4-6-4

 

Dunno... what you see is what came to me off eBay a while ago. The motor is a perfect fit in the chassis/retainer, so suspect factory original.

Regarding interferance/shielding- is that with all Rivarossi motors, or just older ones? My main concern is finding compatible motor and worm with enough time to complete all work and document it before the clinic (scheduled to be presented at least twice in March, open to doing more if any more 4D PNW clinics/meetings? are interested!)

Brian?


Re: HOn3

 

Looking for an MDC/Roundhouse HOn3 loco (actually, all I really want is the tender).? Ebay had nothing.? Any leads?

DM


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Re: Teardown Instructions - Rivarossi Milwaukee F-7 4-6-4

 

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That looks really good.? Was this converted or is it a newer version with that nice can motor?? That doesn't look like most Rivarossi engines I have seen.


Vic Bitleris Raleigh, NC



From: yardbirdtrains@...
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 11:41 PM
To: yardbirdtrains@...
Subject: [yardbirdtrains] Re: Teardown Instructions - Rivarossi Milwaukee F-7 4-6-4
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Quick test this evening.

I don't think I'll bother re-motoring. Sounds pretty good, even at full-speed, 12V:

drive.google.com


Brian Pickering


Re: Teardown Instructions - Rivarossi Milwaukee F-7 4-6-4

 

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Yeah, I think so too.? If you watch the brush end you can see it sparking.? It may be related to that strange screen brush they have on one side?


Vic Bitleris Raleigh, NC



From: yardbirdtrains@... on behalf of Henry Hultgren huligin62@... [yardbirdtrains]
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 12:19 AM
To: yardbirdtrains@...
Subject: Re: [yardbirdtrains] Re: Teardown Instructions - Rivarossi Milwaukee F-7 4-6-4
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Be advised that the OEM Riv motor throws EMI [ white noise ] ?? Lots o' filtering . Henry H .

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On Wed, 1/10/18, bpickeri@... [yardbirdtrains] wrote:

Subject: [yardbirdtrains] Re: Teardown Instructions - Rivarossi Milwaukee F-7 4-6-4
To: yardbirdtrains@...
Date: Wednesday, January 10, 2018, 8:41 PM


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Quick test this evening.

I don't think I'll bother re-motoring.
Sounds pretty good, even at full-speed, 12V:

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1YiY2RLHCy3pBgz6ppMCWbCwKJjVgdd4z

Brian Pickering









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Re: Teardown Instructions - Rivarossi Milwaukee F-7 4-6-4

 

Be advised that the OEM Riv motor throws EMI [ white noise ] ?? Lots o' filtering . Henry H .

--------------------------------------------

On Wed, 1/10/18, bpickeri@... [yardbirdtrains] <yardbirdtrains@...> wrote:

Subject: [yardbirdtrains] Re: Teardown Instructions - Rivarossi Milwaukee F-7 4-6-4
To: yardbirdtrains@...
Date: Wednesday, January 10, 2018, 8:41 PM


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Quick test this evening.

I don't think I'll bother re-motoring.
Sounds pretty good, even at full-speed, 12V:



Brian Pickering









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Re: Teardown Instructions - Rivarossi Milwaukee F-7 4-6-4

 

Quick test this evening.

I don't think I'll bother re-motoring. Sounds pretty good, even at full-speed, 12V:



Brian Pickering


Re: Teardown Instructions - Rivarossi Milwaukee F-7 4-6-4

 

Thanks very much for the effort!

I'll still need to decide if it's worth re-motoring this for even-better performance, or leave as-is for simplicity. I'll probably try to run the mechanism this weekend to decide.

Brian Pickering


Re: Teardown Instructions - Rivarossi Milwaukee F-7 4-6-4

 

I've considered that, but since our modular club's standard for the mainline track and staging is all Code-100, it's not as much of a concern as otherwise.

Brian Pickering


Re: Teardown Instructions - Rivarossi Milwaukee F-7 4-6-4

 

I'm not quite sure what you're referring to, since the attachments don't show in my first post or the attachments section. That used to work. As for the album, I deleted it after it resized the larger images like the exploded view. I downloaded it first to be sure, and it was much smaller. I've been skeptical of complaints about Yahoo groups, but coming back to it it's obvious that the functionality is not what it was.

The Imgur links are the original resolution. They are not on HOSeeker.

Nelson


Re: Teardown Instructions - Rivarossi Milwaukee F-7 4-6-4

 

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More likely your photo viewer resizes them.

Opening the ones in your first post using Photoshop and clicking ¡°Page Set-up¡± on the files menu shows the photo to be letter size.

Saving the FJFIyrE.jpg file from your second post also open in Photoshop a letter size.

I only mention this the whole model train world seems to blame Yahoo Groups for everything nowadays.

Meanwhile I am having very, very few of the problems mentioned.

That said, thanks for posting. Are these available on Hoseeker.net?

John Hagen

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