Re: Request contact the group
Yardbird Trains is defunct as a business as we knew it. Just make a new group on .io and call it trainnutz or something and nobody will care.?
I just enjoy seeing what everybody else does with their old Mantua trains, no matter what the name.?
Nathan Rich?
On May 1, 2018 08:49, "Warren S Jones yoppeh7j@... [yardbirdtrains]" < yardbirdtrains@...> wrote:
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Re: Request contact the group
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On Mon, Apr 30, 2018 at 11:34 AM, Charles Peck lnnrr152@... [yardbirdtrains] <yardbirdtrains@...> wrote:
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No, do not have address or phone for Dan Bush. I'll not be able to follow up on anything for a while. Going to be traveling for the next ten or twelve days. Chuck Peck
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Re: Request contact the group
No, do not have address or phone for Dan Bush. I'll not be able to follow up on anything for a while. Going to be traveling for the next ten or twelve days. Chuck Peck
On Mon, Apr 30, 2018 at 11:37 AM, huligin62@... [yardbirdtrains] <yardbirdtrains@...> wrote:
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Chuck ! Do you have Dan Bush's address & phone ? My last was :Dan Bush? ? , [ 573 ] 593 - 3671 ?? That's the latest I have ?? Let me know ?? 1st I've heard of this ?? Still has ebay site ???? ? Henry H.
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Chuck ! Do you have Dan Bush's address & phone ? My last was :Dan Bush? 5 Ozark Trail? Buffalo Mo. 65622 , [ 573 ] 593 - 3671 ?? That's the latest I have ?? Let me know ?? 1st I've heard of this ?? Still has ebay site ???? ? Henry H.
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Still has a site on ebay ? I tried contact , promptly got pimp slapped for my efforts ? Letter to Dan Bush # 5 Ozark trail? Buffalo Mo.65622 ? Ph.# [573]693-0667
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Re: Life Like Proto Power drive trains ??
Twice I tried sending to group owner and got the response "address not found".?? I don't know if anyone in the group got my email. Would anyone else care to try reaching our group owner? Chuck Peck
On Sun, Apr 29, 2018 at 3:14 PM, Charles Peck <lnnrr152@...> wrote: Is Dan Bush still around?? I have not personally been involved in a switch over except as a subscriber.? My understanding, and I may be wrong, is that the actual owner has to be the one to setup with .? Anybody, I suppose, could start a new yardbirds group but that would not bring along all the subscribers and archives.? I guess I can send an email to yardbirdsowner but will anyone bread it? I don't know.? We can hope. Chuck Peck
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Request contact the group
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Charles Peck <lnnrr152@...>Date: Sun, Apr 29, 2018 at 3:24 PM Subject: Request contact the group To: yardbirdstrains-owner@...Hello Mr Bush,
With the survival of yahoo groups in question, many groups are migrating to This can only be set in motion by the owner of record of the group desiring to migrate. If you would, please, poll the group to see if it is agreeable to most and if so, contact the and get us moved. Alternatively, perhaps you could hand over ownership to a volunteer to handle.
In either case, the group would like to hear from you. Thank you, Chuck Peck
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Re: Life Like Proto Power drive trains ??
Is Dan Bush still around?? I have not personally been involved in a switch over except as a subscriber.? My understanding, and I may be wrong, is that the actual owner has to be the one to setup with .? Anybody, I suppose, could start a new yardbirds group but that would not bring along all the subscribers and archives.? I guess I can send an email to yardbirdsowner but will anyone bread it? I don't know.? We can hope. Chuck Peck
On Sun, Apr 29, 2018 at 2:40 PM, huligin62@... [yardbirdtrains] <yardbirdtrains@...> wrote:
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The owner of the site is Dan Bush , he owned Yardbird Trains ?? You tell me how to proceed ?? Henry
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The owner of the site is Dan Bush , he owned Yardbird Trains ?? You tell me how to proceed ?? Henry
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On Sat, Apr 28, 2018 at 4:15 PM, Charles Peck lnnrr152@... [yardbirdtrains] <yardbirdtrains@...> wrote:
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Henry,
Perhaps you have noticed that several popular rail modeling groups are migrating to . I wonder if anyone here in this group has considered the advisability of yardbirds following suit.
To do this requires action on the part of the group owner of record.? Are you the owner or know who is the owner?? It would be a shame to let yahoo groups crash and lose the archives here.
Chuck Peck
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Henry,
Perhaps you have noticed that several popular rail modeling groups are migrating to . I wonder if anyone here in this group has considered the advisability of yardbirds following suit.
To do this requires action on the part of the group owner of record.? Are you the owner or know who is the owner?? It would be a shame to let yahoo groups crash and lose the archives here.
Chuck Peck
On Sat, Apr 28, 2018 at 1:21 PM, huligin62@... [yardbirdtrains] <yardbirdtrains@...> wrote:
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Hello list ! I'm ''under the weather'' but , I was wondering if anyone hed the same disapointing experiences with the drive trains in these locos ? [ALCO FA2s] ? I have a bunch of the older ROCO ones that'll pull the yard office out of town !!? ?Henry Anyone got new projects goin' on ??
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Hello list ! I'm ''under the weather'' but , I was wondering if anyone hed the same disapointing experiences with the drive trains in these locos ? [ALCO FA2s] ? I have a bunch of the older ROCO ones that'll pull the yard office out of town !!? ?Henry Anyone got new projects goin' on ??
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Re: Bowser DC-71 new motor noise
Hi Fred,
What you may wish to try first is to use Kadee fiber washers, which come in several different thicknesses.? You can try to use a feeler gauge to see what thickness would take up the slop and the use appropriate thickness
fiber washers.? You can cut a pie section out of the washers and force them onto the shaft at the back end of the armature.? If needed, you can use super glue to keep them there.
Depending on the motor, you may be able to take apart the magnet end and put washers directly on the shaft.? But, taking out the magnet could cause it to get weak.? If you want to try that, I suggest getting some neodymium
magnets to replace the magnet.? I have never heard of neodymium magnets losing power when removed from the motor.? The ONLY reason I would remove the gear is if I would want to replace the motor with a can motor, but then you would likely need a sleeve for
the new smaller motor shaft.
Vic Bitleris Raleigh, NC
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Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2018 1:10 PM
To: yardbirdtrains@...
Subject: Re: [yardbirdtrains] Bowser DC-71 new motor noise
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Hi Vic, great suggestion.??? I agree there seems to be some play in the armature.?? ?To get the washers onto?the motor shaft ?I believe ?I must take the motor
apart, which I have never done before.? I have a number of similar motors in other locos and I'm excited by the prospects for improving them too.
I've done a web search for this process but haven't found much.
I think I will need to un-solder the worm from the shaft, then unscrew the top and bottom motor plates to release the armature?
Is there a risk of losing power from the magnet if the motor is opened up like this ?? Any tips for handling the magnet?
The motor is a straight-pole Bowser design, not the newer skewed pole, so I assume it has an Alnico magnet?
Thanks..
Fred Hanes, San Jose, CA
On Tuesday, March 20, 2018 7:59 AM, "Victor Bitleris bitlerisvj@... [yardbirdtrains]" wrote:
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I suspect that the armature has play.? When in reverse, it is pushed toward the magnet and all play is gone.? When in forward, I bet the armature goes back and forth.? If that is the case, you may be be able to
use the Kadee fiber washers to shim it.
This is a pretty common occurrence in Mantua motors as well.
Vic Bitleris Raleigh, NC
From: yardbirdtrains@... on behalf of fred_hanes@... [yardbirdtrains] <yardbirdtrains@...>
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2018 12:32 AM
To: yardbirdtrains@...
Subject: Re: [yardbirdtrains] Bowser DC-71 new motor noise
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Hi Group thanks for all the great tips.
The Bowser motor by itself now runs pretty quiet..
With the motor attached to the chassis and the basic drive train assembled, I get noise going forward but almost silence in reverse.
I've tried shim washers under the motor to change the gear mesh but no big changes in noise.? Should I try washers under both the front and rear motor mounting points at the same time?
Maybe noise is coming from the axles turning in the bearings?? I see some play when the wheels are turning.
I wish I had a nice power supply setup with a current meter, maybe down the road.? For now I'd be happy to tune the motor by ear so that the noise forward equals the noise in reverse,
Any tips?
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Another close call with bronchitis and copd flair up . Cruising ebay I came across a tribute to Howard Ameling in NKPHTS magazines !! Sorry to hear of his demise . Railfanned with him in 1988 . Nice fellow , great host . Sorry to hear , Prayers for his wife Dottie . Henry H.? ? PS , what 's on your projects list ???
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So to remove the armature I need to remove the worm. ?Any tips other than buying a gear puller tool?
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On Mar 21, 2018, at 10:27 AM, huligin62@... [yardbirdtrains] < yardbirdtrains@...> wrote:
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Thanks for jogging my memory Vic , once you shim these motors they run nicely . I you oil those bearings be stingy with it , i learned that one the hard way . Messy !!? Henry
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Thanks for jogging my memory Vic , once you shim these motors they run nicely . I you oil those bearings be stingy with it , i learned that one the hard way . Messy !!? Henry
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Re: Bowser DC-71 new motor noise
Hi Vic, great suggestion.??? I agree there seems to be some play in the armature.?? ?To get the washers onto?the motor shaft ?I believe ?I must take the motor apart, which I have never done before.? I have a number of similar motors in other locos and I'm excited by the prospects for improving them too.
I've done a web search for this process but haven't found much.
I think I will need to un-solder the worm from the shaft, then unscrew the top and bottom motor plates to release the armature?
Is there a risk of losing power from the magnet if the motor is opened up like this ?? Any tips for handling the magnet?
The motor is a straight-pole Bowser design, not the newer skewed pole, so I assume it has an Alnico magnet?
Thanks..
Fred Hanes, San Jose, CA
On Tuesday, March 20, 2018 7:59 AM, "Victor Bitleris bitlerisvj@... [yardbirdtrains]" wrote:
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I suspect that the armature has play.? When in reverse, it is pushed toward the magnet and all play is gone.? When in forward, I bet the armature goes back and forth.? If that is the case, you may be be able to use the
Kadee fiber washers to shim it.
This is a pretty common occurrence in Mantua motors as well.
Vic Bitleris Raleigh, NC
From: yardbirdtrains@... on behalf of fred_hanes@... [yardbirdtrains]
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2018 12:32 AM
To: yardbirdtrains@...
Subject: Re: [yardbirdtrains] Bowser DC-71 new motor noise
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Hi Group thanks for all the great tips.
The Bowser motor by itself now runs pretty quiet..
With the motor attached to the chassis and the basic drive train assembled, I get noise going forward but almost silence in reverse.
I've tried shim washers under the motor to change the gear mesh but no big changes in noise.? Should I try washers under both the front and rear motor mounting points at the same time?
Maybe noise is coming from the axles turning in the bearings?? I see some play when the wheels are turning.
I wish I had a nice power supply setup with a current meter, maybe down the road.? For now I'd be happy to tune the motor by ear so that the noise forward equals the noise in reverse,
Any tips?
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Re: Bowser DC-71 new motor noise
I suspect that the armature has play.? When in reverse, it is pushed toward the magnet and all play is gone.? When in forward, I bet the armature goes back and forth.? If that is the case, you may be be able to use the
Kadee fiber washers to shim it.
This is a pretty common occurrence in Mantua motors as well.
Vic Bitleris Raleigh, NC
From: yardbirdtrains@... on behalf of fred_hanes@... [yardbirdtrains]
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2018 12:32 AM
To: yardbirdtrains@...
Subject: Re: [yardbirdtrains] Bowser DC-71 new motor noise
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Hi Group thanks for all the great tips.
The Bowser motor by itself now runs pretty quiet.
With the motor attached to the chassis and the basic drive train assembled, I get noise going forward but almost silence in reverse.
I've tried shim washers under the motor to change the gear mesh but no big changes in noise.? Should I try washers under both the front and rear motor mounting points at the same time?
Maybe noise is coming from the axles turning in the bearings?? I see some play when the wheels are turning.
I wish I had a nice power supply setup with a current meter, maybe down the road.? For now I'd be happy to tune the motor by ear so that the noise forward equals the noise in reverse,
Any tips?
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Re: PRR Atlas fp7a ? (REVISED)
REVISION - SEE NOTE ADDED IN CAPS BELOW...
On 3/19/2018 11:00 PM, 'Donald R. Staton' chpln1@...
[yardbirdtrains] wrote:
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Leave the plastic
freight pilot... Fill it out to the rough, smooth
shape pilot surface with liquid plastic to rough
shape, file and sand.
I have used plastic
aluminum bought in large tubes at a novelty , home
goods or hardware stores. It is the same job as
using body filler on a car defect. I have
streamlined boilers and boiler fronts with it also.
If you make a mistake, fill it, let it dry and keep
refinishing the shape until you are satisfied. It
drys hard. Don't use large blobs. Several thin coats
are better. Practice on scrap first and have good
ventilation because it has acetone in it.. If it
softens the current pilot too much use thinner
coats... You can reshape the rear of the plastic
pilot as it starts to harden... And scrape the paint
off the current pilot BEFORE YOU ADD THE LIQUID
PLASTIC. You can even shape the hole for the
front coupler if you want one.
Happy detailing...
Don in VA
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I'm trying to add a Cal Scale Passenger pilot
to the nose of this unit . this frame won't be a
snap to hang it under the nose . I thought of thin
sheet plastic to curve and bond to it ? If I
''chicken out" I can leave the door closed on the
pilot ??? It's already dolled up pretty well . Just
want to add that last piece of ''jewelry'' ?? Henry
H.
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Leave the plastic freight
pilot... Fill it out to the rough, smooth shape pilot
surface with liquid plastic to rough shape, file and sand.
I have used plastic
aluminum bought in large tubes at a novelty , home goods or
hardware stores. It is the same job as using body filler on
a car defect. I have streamlined boilers and boiler fronts
with it also. If you make a mistake, fill it, let it dry and
keep refinishing the shape until you are satisfied. It drys
hard. Don't use large blobs. Several thin coats are better.
Practice on scrap first and have good ventilation because it
has acetone in it.. If it softens the current pilot too much
use thinner coats... You can reshape the rear of the plastic
pilot as it starts to harden.And scrape the paint off the
current pilot. You can even shape the hole for the front
coupler if you want one.
Happy detailing...
Don in VA
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I'm trying to add a Cal Scale Passenger pilot to
the nose of this unit . this frame won't be a snap to
hang it under the nose . I thought of thin sheet plastic
to curve and bond to it ? If I ''chicken out" I can
leave the door closed on the pilot ??? It's already
dolled up pretty well . Just want to add that last piece
of ''jewelry'' ?? Henry H.
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Warren Jones
Charles Peck