Hi guys ! Lee town made conversion kits for Varney Super Consols to roll them into Reading I class ? Reading cab , firebox , etc . ?? No 2-8-2 that I ever heard of ???? ? Henry H.?
On Tuesday, February 26, 2019, 2:57:10 PM PST, Bob Macklin <macklinbob@...> wrote:
Jeff,
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In 1954 I owned a Penn Line K-4. I was in the USAF in Korea.
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In the 90's I built every one of the Bowser PRR locos except the GG-1. I always noticed the similarities between the Penn Line and Bowser units.
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Right now I would like a Bowser "Casey Jones" and "Old Lady" but I don't have any money when they are available.
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Bob Macklin
Seattle, Wa.??
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Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2019 2:27 PM
Subject: Re: [YardbirdTrains] Varney PRR L1
Bob,
? ?? Lew English bought Penn Line after they went bankrupt and added their locos to the Bowser line. That was in 1962 or so. The L1, along with all other locos, went through changes by Bowser over the years before Bowser stopped making them. ?
Jeff
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From: Bob Macklin < macklinbob@...>
To: YardbirdTrains@groups.io <YardbirdTrains@groups.io>
Sent: Tue, Feb 26, 2019 2:25 pm
Subject: Re: [YardbirdTrains] Varney PRR L1
Did the Penn Line L-1 become the Bowser L-1?
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Just curious. Not doing PRR anymore!
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Bob Macklin
K5MYJ
Seattle, Wa.
"Real Radios Glow In The Dark"
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Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2019 10:00 AM
Subject: Re: [YardbirdTrains] Varney PRR L1
John,
? ?? Thanks for the info but I never said it was a production Varney. It appears to be a kit bash that utilized a Varney chassis to make something else. My question was whether or not there was a kitbashing article about doing this or if, possibly, there
was a conversion kit such as the John English kit that turned a Mantua 2-8-0 into a PRR 2-8-0? The one auction that had a complete loco has expired so I'll have to do a little digging to find those images but here is a link to a current auction. At first glance,
it appears to be a Penn Line L1 chassis but, upon further examination, you can see that it is something else. It is a guess but it probably predates Penn Line because it looks really old and why would you kit bash an L1 when you could buy one from Penn Line?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Brass-Frame-Locomotive-And-Running-Gear-For-Repair-HO-Scale/273713909145?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649
Jeff
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From: John Hagen via Groups.Io <sprinthag@...>
To: YardbirdTrains <YardbirdTrains@groups.io>
Sent: Tue, Feb 26, 2019 3:43 am
Subject: Re: [YardbirdTrains] Varney PRR L1
No. That was originally a Bowser as it remained until production was discontinued.
The only Varney 2-8-2’s were the decidedly not Pennsy “Economy” and “Super” Mikado’s that began around 1938 and ran into the 1950’s.
Per Varney’s 1938 set of steam loco instructions (hoseeker.net), the original rigid frame Mikado’s were based of freelance design and based on an extended Consolidation. I do not know when the “Super” Mikado’s were first
produced but per hoseeker.net there was one in 1951.
While there are many differences between the original version that became the “Economy” and the “Super” versions that included sprung drivers among it’s numerous up-grades, they were still freelanced. Nice looking but freelanced
non the less.
Bowser and Penn Line both had several Pennsy steam locos and MDC/Roundhouse had a Pennsy Atlantic and Consolidation. Overall Bowser eventually led the way in Pennsy steam.
Bowser did produce some former Varney steamers but that was limited to their “Lil Joe” B&O 0-4-0T, the “old Lady” Consolidation and the “Casey Jones” 4-6-0.
John Hagen
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On Behalf Of Bob Macklin
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2019 1:21 AM
To: YardbirdTrains@groups.io
Subject: Re: [YardbirdTrains] Varney PRR L1
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Bob Macklin
K5MYJ
Seattle, Wa.
"Real Radios Glow In The Dark"
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Sent: Monday, February 25, 2019 8:40 PM
Subject: [YardbirdTrains] Varney PRR L1
Group: I have recently come across, in two different eBay auctions, a Varney version of the PRR L1 mikado. Finding two tells me that this must have been either a documented kit bash that appeared in a publication that modelers
could copy or that there was a conversion kit made by someone. Looking at the auction pictures, I can see that neither of the examples utilized Penn Line parts. Can anyone provide any insight on this?
Jeff
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