Re: Varney PRR L1
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? ?? Here is a link to the other eBay auction that is entitled "Three Varney Engines." Too bad there weren't more pictures but the L1 seems to have the same side rods as the chassis I previously mentioned.?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/3-HO-Varney-Steam-Engines-/323700335935?_trksid=p2047675.m43663.l44720&nordt=true&rt=nc&orig_cvip=true
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From: Jeff Pellas via Groups.Io <jppellas@...> To: YardbirdTrains <[email protected]> Sent: Tue, Feb 26, 2019 1:00 pm Subject: Re: [YardbirdTrains] Varney PRR L1 John,
? ?? Thanks for the info but I never said it was a production Varney. It appears to be a kit bash that utilized a Varney chassis to make something else. My question was whether or not there was a kitbashing article about doing this or if, possibly, there was a conversion kit such as the John English kit that turned a Mantua 2-8-0 into a PRR 2-8-0? The one auction that had a complete loco has expired so I'll have to do a little digging to find those images but here is a link to a current auction. At first glance, it appears to be a Penn Line L1 chassis but, upon further examination, you can see that it is something else. It is a guess but it probably predates Penn Line because it looks really old and why would you kit bash an L1 when you could buy one from Penn Line?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Brass-Frame-Locomotive-And-Running-Gear-For-Repair-HO-Scale/273713909145?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649
Jeff
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From: John Hagen via Groups.Io <sprinthag@...> To: YardbirdTrains <[email protected]> Sent: Tue, Feb 26, 2019 3:43 am Subject: Re: [YardbirdTrains] Varney PRR L1 No. That was originally a Bowser as it remained until production was discontinued.
The only Varney 2-8-2’s were the decidedly not Pennsy “Economy” and “Super” Mikado’s that began around 1938 and ran into the 1950’s.
Per Varney’s 1938 set of steam loco instructions (hoseeker.net), the original rigid frame Mikado’s were based of freelance design and based on an extended Consolidation. I do not know when the “Super” Mikado’s were first produced but per hoseeker.net there was one in 1951.
While there are many differences between the original version that became the “Economy” and the “Super” versions that included sprung drivers among it’s numerous up-grades, they were still freelanced. Nice looking but freelanced non the less.
Bowser and Penn Line both had several Pennsy steam locos and MDC/Roundhouse had a Pennsy Atlantic and Consolidation. Overall Bowser eventually led the way in Pennsy steam.
Bowser did produce some former Varney steamers but that was limited to their “Lil Joe” B&O 0-4-0T, the “old Lady” Consolidation and the “Casey Jones” 4-6-0.
John Hagen
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Bob Macklin
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2019 1:21 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [YardbirdTrains] Varney PRR L1 ?
Is it really a Varney?
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Check this:
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Bob Macklin
K5MYJ Seattle, Wa. "Real Radios Glow In The Dark"
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Jeff Pellas