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QY70 MIDI Interface


 

Hey all,
I got a QY70 not too long back and I've used it to make rough sketches of songs to finish if I'm out and about, so that I have something to work on when I get home. It's fulfilling its purpose well and I love it!!! I recently used the QY Filer to get files off the QY70 and that worked perfectly fine, I tried today to load a file onto the device but I've been encountering an issue where the software will say that the file has been recieved, but it's not on thq QY70. If I try to load a MIDI onto the device, it even gives me an error on the screen, but the software says its a-ok.

I'm assuming its my MIDI interface as it was only cheap (MidiPlus 2x2) so do you guys have any recommendations on any better (but affordable alternatives). I did buy a MOTU Midi Express XT USB used recently but despite multiple tutorials, I couldn't get it to work and have returned it.

If it's not my interface, what else might it be instead.

Thanks a billion,
Icosahedron


 

Someone in an earlier post mentioned having success using?SysEx Librarian. ?Might be worth a try with your current MIDI cables.

Also check some of the most recent post about backing up I believe someone mentioned some thing about the brand of MIDI cables they use.

Welcome to the group!
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“The longest journey starts with the first step." ?- Lao Tzu


 

Hi Icosahedron

That happens to me one time without apparent reason, I check all they variable, interface, software, Even memory available in they qy, but everything seems ok, it was just they qy didnt play the midi song. The problems was a Lot of midi messages in automatization between notes, I set modulation for midi velocities en several tracks and was to much for the little qy, I cut the number of messages and problema solved.

I hope that helps.

Cheers.


 

this got me reading the QY70 Datafiler manual (because i wasn't sure what data it can load) :
https://www.deepsonic.ch/deep/docs_manuals/yamaha_qy70_datafiler_manual.pdf


 

so the SMF type and destination/source is Song, it seems rather than Pattern.
i had had this idea that i could have small midifiles for individual tracks, but it all has to come as a song file.
(have never used this lol)

the way around is to 'get Phrase' from the Song track - get/put Phrase: i've underestimated the importance of the 'phrase', and its properties, eg: that it belongs to a Style - is this correct? so you start at number 001 for each Style? i'm thinking this is the way it is on the RM1x (which i use more, recently).

a Phrase being the contents of a single 'track'.

so essentially, if you wanted to import a load of midi into a QY, you send it to a Song first, and then fetch out the bits you might need for some Pattern tracks.

nb: i have a QY100, and was a bit disappointed when i saw the import options with that - no direct SMF import/export iirc
and concluded that the Datafiler is the way to go - subject to reappraisal of course, if i ever use the SmartMedia card with it.


 

Thanks for having me lol,
I looked into SysEx Librarian but i've got a Windows PC and that's only for Macs. I use Stagg midi cables if that helps.


 

RE: QYedit

I found out that Freezepop released a few songs years back that you could import onto your QY70 in the patterns section via bulk files, as with the data filer it will ask you if you want to import all the files, 1 song, or 1 pattern. But since I can't get data filer to properly send files (but it will recieve them), I can't test how well saving patterns like that works.


 
Edited

Had you looked at MidiOX ?
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It is free and very easy to use, though I myself use Filer… but I did have an issue with a QY70 song restore one time… saved fine but wouldn’t restore. ?Mostly I use the QY100 with SmartMedia and a card reader for the PC, but my issue may have been midi cables as well.
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Often times with windows its old drivers that muck up midi communications, so you could try a bit of device driver housecleaning or try a different pc that doesn’t have alot of midi drivers on it.
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Just some thoughts.?

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On Nov 9, 2022, at 5:04 AM, Icosahedron <merle0061@...> wrote:

Thanks for having me lol,
I looked into SysEx Librarian but i've got a Windows PC and that's only for Macs. I use Stagg midi cables if that helps.

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“The longest journey starts with the first step." ?- Lao Tzu


 

Luckily I have MIDI-OX from the broken MIDI interface I mentioned. I thought that was only for monitoring MIDI lol. How would I go about trying to load a backup onto the QY70 with this software.
Also, I looked into it and a friend of mine who is into synths has had similar issues with the interface I had. I'll probably buy a Midiman 2X2 when my refund for the MOTU comes through lol.


 

I highly recommend the ESi MIDIMATE eX:

Fair price for its class, reliable, and each port automatically senses what it's plugged into and toggles the function between either input or output. Can also be used as a 2x in or 2x out.

J


 

That looks quite solid, how well does it work in using the QY70 with the data filer.?

On a sidenote, i remembered that my audio interface (an old M-audio ultra fast track 8r) has a midi breakout cable that I need to try and find one of, Presumably it would be something like the midiman since it's a similar era. I'd just need to try and find one that actually work since its a very specific cable.


 

Although I haven't used it with Data Filer (planning to try this soon), Sysex has worked fine.


 

m-audio midisport uno usb works fine with QY70


 

Great news!

I got mail today, a Midisport 2x2, and it works perfectly with the qy70, seems cheap midi interfaces really do suck lol.

Thanks a lot guys!