On Mar 20, 2025, at 3:14?AM, QYedit via groups.io <domgoold@...> wrote:

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that one has ONE LCD ;-)

great price .. i got a 25SL mk1 recently for 50eu in good condition.

a bit short as a keyboard but fits inside a rack box/space (without the rails).

i have another small keyboard, the Keystep37, so can combine them for more key range with an essential piece of kit: the MIDI Solutions Quad Merge: 4 MIDI Ins to 1 Out, doesn't no power supply or batteries (takes current from the 1st MIDI In - most MIDI devices send a tiny current with the signal from the MIDI Out; some don't so those would go on one of the other inputs)

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have also seen the 'Zero' (no keys, just the box) going cheap. very useful bit of kit that i've had for a while, and use to make controls for any midiCC or sysex-capable unit. they can also send NRPNs, which is quite rare. it also works out the checksum, for Roland devices, with several options for message length. it's well thought out. there's a thing called Automap, for mapping plugins and DAWS automatically, but i've never used that.

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also never used the MkII version (as shown! heh) - possibly it has better encoders? don't know.

the mk1 has 40 template slots to work with, which can be linked either in toggle stacks as series, or by using buttons (or the pads, which i don't find useful) as links.

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the key thing about these is the Remote Editor software, which is very comfortable to work with (i think). they'll run off USB with computer while you program them, and then off 9v PSU as standalone, away from the computer.

have never tried the mk3; it looks like a different thing altogether.