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I've talked to a few people, and there is a site called 开云体育
that seems to be filling the needs of many current and former Yahoo
Groups.? It even has some features missing from Yahoo's offering.?
There is a free version that provides 1GB of file storage; and a
Premium package that gives 10GB, but costs about $10USD per month.?
It might be worth looking into.
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Regards,
-BW
Bruce Wahler
Ashby Solutions.com?
bw@...
978.597.7008
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Hi Bruce, Yeah I saw that too, might be worth trying the free version at least for now.
Regarding archiving this groups is anyone here doing something ? I took 2+ hours yesterday evening to save one by one many files from here and YamahaDXFiles group and now I'm running a python script (https://github.com/andrewferguson/YahooGroups-Archiver) to backups the messages. I'll be happy to help doing a nice archive of this group to help anyone wanting to revisit it in the future. Don't hesitate to chime in to talk about it. Cheers, Jonas
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Some people seem to forget that there are actually 3 groups: YamahaDX,
YamahaDXfiles and DX_Files. Is it the same moderators for all three?
Don B.
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Hi Bruce,
Yeah I saw that too, might be worth trying the free version at least for
now.
?
Regarding archiving this groups is anyone here doing something ? I took 2+
hours yesterday evening to save one by one many files from here and
YamahaDXFiles group and now I'm running a python script
(https://github.com/andrewferguson/YahooGroups-Archiver) to backups the
messages. I'll be happy to help doing a nice archive of this group to help
anyone wanting to revisit it in the future. Don't hesitate to chime in
to talk about it. Cheers, Jonas
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Yeah, that has to be figured into the mix.? Three groups is probably
to get around the file limitations; at least, I know that
YamahaDXFiles is a dummy list, intended for file storage only.? This
is perhaps the biggest downside of 开云体育 vs. Yahoo Groups:?
Yahoo allows 2GB of photos, and 1GB of files; while 开云体育 allows
1GB total in the free package.? The premium package allows 10GB (and
adds many features), but costs a monthly/annual fee.
On the plus side, they claim to have tools to port a Yahoo Group to
their site.
Regards,
-BW
Bruce Wahler
Ashby Solutions.com?
bw@...
978.597.7008
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Some people seem to forget that there are actually
3 groups: YamahaDX, YamahaDXfiles and DX_Files. Is it
the same moderators for all three?
Don B.
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From: jojolp90@...
[YamahaDX]
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2019 12:58
PM
To: YamahaDX@...
Subject: [YamahaDX] Re: Moving the
list
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Hi Bruce,
Yeah I saw that too, might be worth trying the
free version at least for now.
?
Regarding archiving this groups is anyone here
doing something ? I took 2+ hours yesterday
evening to save one by one many files from here
and YamahaDXFiles group and now I'm running a
python script
()
to backups the messages. I'll be happy to help
doing a nice archive of this group to help anyone
wanting to revisit it in the future.
Don't hesitate to chime in to talk about it.
Cheers,
Jonas
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I'll happily pay the first year's fees for the premium groups.io subscription if that's what group wants to do. Just let me know...quick.
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Hi Don,
There's also yamahablackboxes:
I can't find a group called DX_Files though.? Can you provide a link?
- Andy
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The link is
although you may not be able to link it directly if you are not a member. It’s a
private group owned by YamahaDX group. It’s set up a little differently than
YamahaDXfiles which is restricted, not private. I think if you joined YamahaDX,
the moderator would have to manually add you to DX_Files.
Don B.
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Hi Don,
There's also yamahablackboxes:
I
can't find a group called DX_Files though.? Can you provide a
link?
- Andy
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I see.? Thanks, Don.
I've been a member of YamahaDX, yamahablackboxes and YamahaDXfiles for quite a while, but I haven't been made a member of that.? I think I've seen someone mention it once before, but I thought it was a mistake, and was meant to say YamahaDXfiles.
- Andy
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Hi peeps,
is a very detailed checklist, how to start/request a transfer
$110 fee to do this seems very reasonable!
We moved several groups to groups.io last year, when it was still free to have them do the transfer --
very happy with groups.io!
**** I'll happily pay the first year's fees for the premium groups.io subscription if that's what group wants to do. Just let me know...quick.
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Recently another group I am involved in has
migrated to without trauma,
but the list history remains on yahoo.
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Ugh, that way lies headaches. First off it has accessibility issues for blind folks. (you know, like me) But I've heard a *lot* of grumbling in the past couple of years about the way Google groups handles messages.
Please, let's no go that route.
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-----Original Message----- From: YamahaDX@... [mailto:YamahaDX@...] Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2019 7:58 AM To: yamahadx@... Subject: [YamahaDX] Re: Moving the list Recently another group I am involved in has migrated to Google Groups <!overview> without trauma, but the list history remains on yahoo. <!overview> < https://s.yimg.com/lb/brands/80x80_google.png> Google Groups Google Groups allows you to create and participate in online forums and email-based groups with a rich experienc...
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That's a good point.? How do you rate the groups.io site for accessibility, Nicole?
If I turn off styles (CSS) in Waterfox (based on Firefox), the page layout stays nice and readable for the pages I've seen so far, without lots of menu links to fight through first - so that looks promising.
I seem to remember reading about Google defending their legal right to NOT make their sites and services accessible, which just seems outrageous, if true.?
If a company commits to keeping things as accessible as possible for blind or deaf people, for example, that also makes it more likely that the rest of us won't run into problems using an old or obscure browser, or a computer that's considered obsolete or underpowered.
- Andy
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Hi gesine_catnation,
That's a very generous offer, but I wonder if the group, and associated files hordes, would fit in the free 1GB?
I haven't seen DX_Files (it doesn't let me in), so I don't know how much is in there, or how much has been added recently, but it seems most files were added a while ago, when file storage was much more precious - so, it seems like there's a good chance it all fits in 1GB.? Given the maturity of the discussion, maybe there's not much more to add to that section?
The thing that bothers me is that once someone starts paying for the group to be hosted somewhere, the funds have to be found again every year, or the group dies.? That might be hard to guarantee.? If it can be hosted for free, that might actually be a better way to ensure it lives forever... or a larger fraction of forever.
- Andy
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开云体育 is fine. I don't go to the sites much -- I'm still using POP3/SMTP for my multiple email accounts, and I've got Outlook set up where I can stand its quirks.
Any company that's trying to justify inaccessibility is also having to justify not selling anything to the single largest employer in the world, the U.S. Government, along with the other governments and agencies and the entire education system. Those economics don't make much sense to me, but I'm not a high pay economist working for a major company, so what do I know?
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Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2019 12:21 PM
To: YamahaDX@...
Subject: RE: [YamahaDX] Re: Moving the list
That's a good point. How do you rate the groups.io site for accessibility, Nicole?
If I turn off styles (CSS) in Waterfox (based on Firefox), the page layout stays nice and readable for the pages I've seen so far, without lots of menu links to fight through first - so that looks promising.
I seem to remember reading about Google defending their legal right to NOT make their sites and services accessible, which just seems outrageous, if true.
If a company commits to keeping things as accessible as possible for blind or deaf people, for example, that also makes it more likely that the rest of us won't run into problems using an old or obscure browser, or a computer that's considered obsolete or underpowered.
- Andy
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Hi Andy,
It looks like the fee is for one year for a premium account. It can be changed back to basic after the year.
Here is what the wiki page states :
The cost is $110 USD per year for a Premium account. This allows you to use
the groups.io transfer agent. You can change back to Basic after the year if you wish.
Best.
Jo?l ELIS?
?Jamais un homme heureux n'a troublé?la paix d'une réunion, prêché?une guerre, ou lynché?un Noir.?
Aucune femme heureuse n'a jamais cherché?noise à?son mari ou à?ses enfants.
Jamais un homme?heureux n'a commis un meurtre ou un vol.
Jamais un patron heureux n'a fait peur à?ses employés.?
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Hi gesine_catnation,
That's a very generous offer, but I wonder if the group, and associated files hordes, would fit in the free 1GB?
I haven't seen DX_Files (it doesn't let me in), so I don't know how much is in there, or how much has been added recently, but it seems most files were added a while ago, when file storage was much more precious - so, it seems like there's a good chance it
all fits in 1GB.? Given the maturity of the discussion, maybe there's not much more to add to that section?
The thing that bothers me is that once someone starts paying for the group to be hosted somewhere, the funds have to be found again every year, or the group dies.? That might be hard to guarantee.? If it can be hosted for free, that might actually be a better
way to ensure it lives forever... or a larger fraction of forever.
- Andy
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Hi Jo?l,
Fair enough.? I missed seeing that part.
That seems like a reasonable plan than - not that it's up to me :)
- Andy
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Hi,
How can I apply to join ? I don't see any button to ask an admin for registering on it. I'd like to do a backup of it also. It's the last Yamaha DX group I haven't backuped yet.
Cheers,
Jonas
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You can email yamahadxfiles-owner@... and ask to be added manually.
I got a reply quickly.? It didn't actually work, in my case, because apparently I'd already been added, but the group doesn't show in my list of groups, I can't log in, and I still get the error message:
"
Oops!
You need to be a member to perform this action.
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Still, you might have more luck than me, and it seems that's the only way.
- Andy
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It looks like ALL Yahoo groups need to move? I’m seeing this from other lists... so, we have no choice, right?
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You can email yamahadxfiles-owner@... and ask to be added manually.
I got a reply quickly.? It didn't actually work, in my case, because apparently I'd already been added, but the group doesn't show in my list of groups, I can't log in, and I still get the error message:
"
Oops!
You need to be a member to perform this action.
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Still, you might have more luck than me, and it seems that's the only way.
- Andy
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Correct, Edward. If you look at the group, or any group, on the Yahoo website, you should see a yellow banner, near the top of the page, which says:
Attention:
Starting December 14, 2019 Yahoo Groups will no longer host user created
content on its sites. New content can no longer be uploaded after
October 28, 2019. Sending/Receiving email functionality is not going
away, you can continue to communicate via any email client with your
group members.
So, all Yahoo groups will soon just be mailing lists, with no history or file storage.
- Andy
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