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Re: DX7 ROM Card with 256 x 32 patches

 

I have to say I felt it was abandoned too and never saw it on eBay.?

I did purchase a 3D printed cartridge enclosure (not sure it was the same seller), but would have had to cut it in half to begin to design guts for it. One would expect a cartridge enclosure to come in halves that can be fastened together somehow.

?Anyway I would still be interested in the completed thing if the price is not prohibitive.


Re: DX7 ROM Card with 256 x 32 patches

 

Hi everybody,

Back from work ;-)

Thank you all for your comment, sure? it'll help me to improve my design !

@Ramiro & Daniel

I join to this message the list of the SYSEX I've included in my .BIN...Some are well known ( it begins with the 4 ROM banks supplied by Yamaha ), and other are pretty exotic, their name will tell you not much ( remember I picked the up randomly...).
This list was created by my now-enhanced Python script which automatically build the .txt file as and when you add a SYSEX to the whole .bin file.
As Daniel said, you can tell or send me the SYSEXes you want to be included in the EPROM and I'll burn them.

@Jonas

Thank you for your encouragement !
I'm still looking for the right way to make the card available on OSH Park...they talk about "shared projects", I guess it's related ;-)...
As previously said, the shipping costs could be veeeeery expensive, so, due to them, I don't know for now how to keep the cost of a complete card in reasonable proportions. I guess a bare PCB could be sent as a letter and not a parcel, the price would be cheaper...

@helfried2de

sorry, someone said here the cartridge connector is not quite the same as the mk1 DX7's...I don't own a DX7II, so I can't build and test a dedicated design...

@Grant & Jojol

Of course an enclosure would be a top ! The Yamaha cartridge enclosure is too small....a C64 cartridge can be the right choice !
I'm not very skilled in 3D modelling, I'll leave the enclosure question to someone else ;-)...

@aero

sorry, I didn't mean in no way to interfere with your work ! And as Daniel told you, yours is a RAM card, not the same destination as mine...

Chris.


Re: DX7 ROM Card with 256 x 32 patches

 

That seems rather harsh, Daniel.

Perhaps it was lost in translation, but it was fairly clear to me that this was more of a hobby project than a commercial one.?

There is very little chance of him making a profit on it.? It seemed clear to me he was just offering to share what he'd come up with.

Andy


Re: DX7 ROM Card with 256 x 32 patches

 

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Sorry to say that it is only your fault, looks like some kind of bad marketing :-)

Your last message on this forum about your card development came on May 6th 2016.

I have never seen any announcement that your product was finished and ready for selling. You have sent some messages later, but your card was not mentioned there at all.

You didn¡¯t announce here where it is possible to buy it and how much it costs.

No wonder there was little interest.?

I considered it abandoned project and forgot about it.

So could you please improve this situation and explain everything? Maybe it¡¯s a good chance - not everybody needs ROM with 4096 sounds which has to be programmed in a special way.
Maybe some users would be satisfied with compatible multibank RAM which can be used as standard RAM1 (possibility to save and load bank, or save just one patch, with protect switch)¡­

Thanks for any info about your project.

Daniel Forro


On Sep 20, 2017, at 0:11, yahoo@... [YamahaDX] <YamahaDX@...> wrote:



Nice job.

Has everyone forgotten my 8 x 32 patch RAM cartridge I designed and made over a year ago.
It has a rotary switch to select the bank and works just like 8 original RAM4 cartridges.

Admittedly it doesn't hold 4096 patches but is read/write with a write-protect switch.

I made a decent size batch and advertised them on eBay but got very little interest; this was quite expensive and disappointing.

I uploaded pics of the 3D model of the enclosure too.

The original thread is:
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Re: DX7 ROM Card with 256 x 32 patches

 

Photo of my cartridge (without case):


Re: DX7 ROM Card with 256 x 32 patches

 

Nice job.

Has everyone forgotten my 8 x 32 patch RAM cartridge I designed and made over a year ago.
It has a rotary switch to select the bank and works just like 8 original RAM4 cartridges.

Admittedly it doesn't hold 4096 patches but is read/write with a write-protect switch.

I made a decent size batch and advertised them on eBay but got very little interest; this was quite expensive and disappointing.

I uploaded pics of the 3D model of the enclosure too.

The original thread is:


Re: DX7 ROM Card with 256 x 32 patches

 

Hi Grant,

yeah I was talking about an enclosure, I just didn't have the word in mind when I wrote my post! I never owned any DX7 cart but I think we can get away with one with a screw in the middle. Maybe a C64 cart would be a good start? >

Jonas


Re: DX7 ROM Card with 256 x 32 patches

 

Do you mean an enclosure/case for it?? I don't think it comes with one now (and I'm fine with that).? But it would be great to have an enclosure too although it probably would mean some collaboration on the PCB so that the case fits and functions properly.

And as someone else mentioned the beveled edge on the PCB.


Re: DX7 ROM Card with 256 x 32 patches

 

great project !
is there any chance you could make it for the DX7II ?


Re: DX7 ROM Card with 256 x 32 patches

 

Salut Christophe!

I'm interested into buying one of your cart! We should also think about making a 3D model of a cart for enabling people to print their own.

Thanks for your effort anyway! I'm looking forward to your reply

Jonas


Re: DX7 ROM Card with 256 x 32 patches

 

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If I understand well this is not normal RAM where you can can save banks or individual patches in standard way on DX7.

It has to be programmed in EPROM programmer, and common SysEx bank data has to be converted before.

So if Chris will not offer his card with some pre-programmed EPROM (for example with all original Yamaha ROM¡¯s and some usual random garbage from the internet - because I don¡¯t think he would make some order or patch categorization in it, it¡¯s too much work, or maybe he can use DEXED archive), you have to send him your own patch selection (256 banks) what you want to have on the card, and he will program it.

That means probably don¡¯t expect you will get some ¡°rom card ready for use¡±.

Daniel Forro?


On Sep 19, 2017, at 2:15, Ramiro Hernandez ramirohernandezpta@... [YamahaDX] <YamahaDX@...> wrote:

I need to know exactly price in USA dlls
Shipping & rom card ready to use
Also how I can pay?
Let me know
Tks?


Re: DX7 ROM Card with 256 x 32 patches

 

For longer lasting contacts ask your PCB supplier do 2 thing.

1) Cut a beveled edge on the PCB where the edge connector is.
2) have the contacts for the edge connector hard gold plated.

These are standard operations and should not cost much.

The beveled edge makes inserting the card easier and protects the edge of
the contact fingers.

The hard gold plating reduces the contact resistance and reduces contact
wear.


On Sun, September 17, 2017 6:02 am, christophe.perrod@... [YamahaDX]
wrote:
Hi

Yes, rotatory hexa switches seem to be the ideal solution...the drawback
is the price of such a component compared to cheap DIP switches...
Furthermore, one of the additional benefits of DIP switches is the
possibility to substitute the not often available 27C801 for a smaller one
( eg 27C512 ) as the pinouts are quite compatible; you just have to set
one of the highest bit switch ON to supply power to the chip.

Anyway, I'll work on a design embedding 2 rotatory switches, it's not huge
work ;-)...

Considering what Daniel very judiciously said, the card is not intended to
be often extracted out of its slot, so a loss of contact is not expected
in a even long time of use.

Chris

daved@...


Re: DX7 ROM Card with 256 x 32 patches

 

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I need to know exactly price in USA dlls
Shipping & rom card ready to use
Also how I can pay?
Let me know
Tks?

On Sep 18, 2017, at 11:40 AM, grantbt@... [YamahaDX] <YamahaDX@...> wrote:

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We have a similar issue when sending packages from the US overseas.? This is why I mentioned the direct from OSH Park alternative as shipping from China is so inexpensive. Anyway, I am also interested in a bare PCB or kit.


Re: DX7 ROM Card with 256 x 32 patches

 

We have a similar issue when sending packages from the US overseas.? This is why I mentioned the direct from OSH Park alternative as shipping from China is so inexpensive. Anyway, I am also interested in a bare PCB or kit.


Re: DX7 ROM Card with 256 x 32 patches

 

Hi

Well, I inquired about shipping costs for USA, they are rather prohibitive...Including them, I think a complete card cost would be at least 50€ ( ~ 60$ ) :-((

Chris


Re: DX7 ROM Card with 256 x 32 patches

 

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Hi & tks for answer

Well I don't know to much about that?
What I looking for is?
Rom card just ready for load more Sysex
Sounds to my ?dx7
?You know better?
I hope you understand?

Tks

On Sep 17, 2017, at 8:08 AM, christophe.perrod@... [YamahaDX] <YamahaDX@...> wrote:

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Hi Ramiro !

What are you interested in ? Bare PCB ? EPROM ? Complete kit ?

Chris


Re: DX7 ROM Card with 256 x 32 patches

 

Hi Ramiro !

What are you interested in ? Bare PCB ? EPROM ? Complete kit ?

Chris


Re: DX7 ROM Card with 256 x 32 patches

 

The work of Sector101 is muuuuuch more professional than mine....I can't compete :-)


Re: DX7 ROM Card with 256 x 32 patches

 

Hi

Yes, rotatory hexa switches seem to be the ideal solution...the drawback is the price of such a component compared to cheap DIP switches...
Furthermore, one of the additional benefits of DIP switches is the possibility to substitute the not often available 27C801 for a smaller one ( eg 27C512 ) as the pinouts are quite compatible; you just have to set one of the highest bit switch ON to supply power to the chip.

Anyway, I'll work on a design embedding 2 rotatory switches, it's not huge work ;-)...
?
Considering what Daniel very judiciously said, the card is not intended to be often extracted out of its slot, so a loss of contact is not expected in a even long time of use.

Chris


Re: DX7 ROM Card with 256 x 32 patches

 

On Sun, 17 Sep 2017, strangemike1000@... [YamahaDX] wrote:

At the Yamaha forums the runner of "Sector101" is known as member 'shadowmask' - as you can see he uses such kind of rotary switch too - as well
as with his Waveblade card... which is very comfortable to use.
This is what the Datablade/Waveblade cards looks:

I own such a card for my Yamaha V50. Very nice.

--

MT