On 19 Dec 2023, at 22:43, Spence M0STO via groups.io <unavailable.equal@...> wrote:
?Just my 2 pennies worth. Interfacing and controlling your FT847 remotely is very simple, however piping audio back and forth over the internet ….. tough….. very tough.
For my satellite setup I listen to my FT847 and co tell it with a Pi controlling the intermediate link.
?Curiously enough I actually made a short video this evening for a lecture.
Using the Pi for VPN using OpenVPN and sharing the auth key with your mobile or VNC for more hands on. X11 or VNC-tight can do that for you with realVNC on phone or remote PC.
? Ok I use PSTRotstor and my phone to click on my rotator in PST and direct it but you could use the TCP feature built into PSTrotator and open a port in your router but unfortunately PSTrotstor doesn’t accommodate anything other than Windows. In that case you need FLdigi and FLRig.
?Ok now the big headache. Audio. I personally use Skype on my remote PC and simply phone myself over VPC and my phone rings I mute the mic on the phone as ?it ?tends to clutter when full duplex audio is in operation and causes drop outs due to a noise cancelling feature I’ve not managed so turn off no matter if you turn it off in Skype. The result is is ok streaming audio but you could cheat and press TX and then use an audio interface such as a Signalink SL-1 (that’s what I’ve used) and then select the microphone in Skype to output the audio to the front socket on the radio. The SCU-17 will only work for UHF and VHF as the 6 pin socket and TNC was never designed for HF so you’re left with the front socket for HF. You could risk linking the speaker output of your PC or PI direct but that’s fraught with RF loops and feedback.?
?I would also build a TOT also with a simple timer bought from the far east set it for 2 minutes. This way if comms drop all together your not key down until you regain connection. There is an inhibit built into one of the sockets (I think it’s the standby socket)? But need to look as I inhibited mine with a 4.7k resistor if my memory serves me to stop all TX while I’m monitoring remotely.
?The alternative is to Pay for a license for RealVNC’s audio streaming service. It’s proprietary and does not use RTSP according to RealVNC.?
?Lastly, get Adobe encode and use the PI as a RTSP server and encode the audio on the fly. You will have to do the same at the other end and have half duplex communication which gets really sticky. If there was another way of streaming audio over the Internet….. I would have found it but even I’m stuck for a solution.
Will post a video soon.
De Spence M0STO
Sent while portable! please excuse typos.
On 19 Dec 2023, at 21:52, ft847@... wrote:
?Hey All.
I just picked up a 847 second hand (obviously) and want to use it at a remote location if at all possible. I have been scanning this group for links and suggestions for interfacing ideas etc. Idealy I would like to use a RPI at the remote location but open to any ideas. What is the easiest complete solution to buying an interface and cables in the one spot?
Just my 2 pennies worth. Interfacing and controlling your FT847 remotely is very simple, however piping audio back and forth over the internet ….. tough….. very tough.
For my satellite setup I listen to my FT847 and co tell it with a Pi controlling the intermediate link.
?Curiously enough I actually made a short video this evening for a lecture.
Using the Pi for VPN using OpenVPN and sharing the auth key with your mobile or VNC for more hands on. X11 or VNC-tight can do that for you with realVNC on phone or remote PC.
? Ok I use PSTRotstor and my phone to click on my rotator in PST and direct it but you could use the TCP feature built into PSTrotator and open a port in your router but unfortunately PSTrotstor doesn’t accommodate anything other than Windows. In that case you need FLdigi and FLRig.
?Ok now the big headache. Audio. I personally use Skype on my remote PC and simply phone myself over VPC and my phone rings I mute the mic on the phone as ?it ?tends to clutter when full duplex audio is in operation and causes drop outs due to a noise cancelling feature I’ve not managed so turn off no matter if you turn it off in Skype. The result is is ok streaming audio but you could cheat and press TX and then use an audio interface such as a Signalink SL-1 (that’s what I’ve used) and then select the microphone in Skype to output the audio to the front socket on the radio. The SCU-17 will only work for UHF and VHF as the 6 pin socket and TNC was never designed for HF so you’re left with the front socket for HF. You could risk linking the speaker output of your PC or PI direct but that’s fraught with RF loops and feedback.?
?I would also build a TOT also with a simple timer bought from the far east set it for 2 minutes. This way if comms drop all together your not key down until you regain connection. There is an inhibit built into one of the sockets (I think it’s the standby socket)? But need to look as I inhibited mine with a 4.7k resistor if my memory serves me to stop all TX while I’m monitoring remotely.
?The alternative is to Pay for a license for RealVNC’s audio streaming service. It’s proprietary and does not use RTSP according to RealVNC.?
?Lastly, get Adobe encode and use the PI as a RTSP server and encode the audio on the fly. You will have to do the same at the other end and have half duplex communication which gets really sticky. If there was another way of streaming audio over the Internet….. I would have found it but even I’m stuck for a solution.
I just picked up a 847 second hand (obviously) and want to use it at a remote location if at all possible. I have been scanning this group for links and suggestions for interfacing ideas etc. Idealy I would like to use a RPI at the remote location but open to any ideas. What is the easiest complete solution to buying an interface and cables in the one spot?
I just picked up a 847 second hand (obviously) and want to use it at a remote location if at all possible. I have been scanning this group for links and suggestions for interfacing ideas etc. Idealy I would like to use a RPI at the remote location but open to any ideas. What is the easiest complete solution to buying an interface and cables in the one spot?
I was more concerned with the diodes they show in the Yaesu manual in the ALC cable, The cable in manual was designed to connect to 4 amps. My 847 may never see an amp inline if it does it will most likely be vhf and uhf.
I think you will find it is the PTT you are not supposed to use with an amplifier. This is a low level, low current switch and meant for foot pedals as an input. The Standby socket however can switch relays up to 24vdc at 100ma but a typically the switching relay voltage is 12vdc 25ma ~ 75ma. The circuit is open collector transistor.
Regarding the PTT:
Note: This jack is designed to be used for external PTT input only. Do not attempt to use the PTT jack for switching amplifiers or other external devices (use the STBY jack for controlling such devices .
Without the ALC (which will accommodate up to -4vdc) you will guarantee to put any connected amplifier at risk of runaway.
Personally I run my FT847 into my VL1000 at full output (100w) and then adjust the ALC to 1000w. No matter how much input I put into my VL1000 it won’t be overdriven. The limit in the UK is currently 400w so can be safely driven at much lower drives to achieve that and just in case of band switching and then running 100w into a relatively low ALC and overdriving my amplifier and damaging it. With this simple precaution it’s impossible to run more than 1000w.
On 18 Dec 2023, at 01:32, Andy Bosworth <sidthepop@...> wrote:
?
There is an ALC connector on rear panel.
This is an RCA/phono connector. Most linears use the same, I suggest a phono to phono lead, which are commonly used for connecting hi-fi units together.
Andy
G4XNG
On Sun, 17 Dec 2023 at 19:23, Tim Davis KJ4DHF via
<kj4dhf=[email protected]> wrote:
Hello All,
Looking for a little help on the FT-847 EXT ALC Cable. I could find no reference to a part number in my manual. I did locate on pg 14 both the STBY Cable and the ALC Cable. Was the ALC? Cable ever available from Yaesu?
There is an ALC connector on rear panel. This is an RCA/phono connector. Most linears use the same, I suggest a phono to phono lead, which are commonly used for connecting hi-fi units together. Andy G4XNG
On Sun, 17 Dec 2023 at 19:23, Tim Davis KJ4DHF via <kj4dhf=[email protected]> wrote:
Hello All,
Looking for a little help on the FT-847 EXT ALC Cable. I could find no reference to a part number in my manual. I did locate on pg 14 both the STBY Cable and the ALC Cable. Was the ALC? Cable ever available from Yaesu?
Le dimanche, décembre 17, 2023, 20:11, Tim Davis KJ4DHF via groups.io <kj4dhf@...> a écrit?:
Hello All,
Looking for a little help on the FT-847 EXT ALC Cable. I could find no reference to a part number in my manual. I did locate on pg 14 both the STBY Cable and the ALC Cable. Was the ALC? Cable ever available from Yaesu?
Looking for a little help on the FT-847 EXT ALC Cable. I could find no reference to a part number in my manual. I did locate on pg 14 both the STBY Cable and the ALC Cable. Was the ALC? Cable ever available from Yaesu?
I have an FT847 which is now surplus to my needs since I have bought my ic7300.? I would like to make it available for free to a good home or perhaps also for parts.? It has sat on my shelf for several years since I used it.? Let me know of any interest.
I live in Ontario Canada.? Reply to my email joe at laferla dot ca.? Thanks for any interest.
On 16 Dec 2023, 12:12, at 12:12, "gw3fsp via groups.io" <gw3fsp.ldavies@...> wrote:
Hi folks, I have for sale a Yeasu FL2100Z linear with 2 spare valves, new HT capacitors and other work done by previous owner ( now sadly SK ) not used for 2 years was used on 20M SSB and PSK / DRM 20 - 80 M. very heavy so pick up only South Wales about 2 miles J 35 M4, looking for ?450 ono cash on collection. Leighton. GW3FSP.
Hi folks, I have for sale a Yeasu FL2100Z linear with 2 spare valves, new HT capacitors and other work done by previous owner ( now sadly SK ) not used for 2 years was used on 20M SSB and PSK / DRM 20 - 80 M. very heavy so pick up only South Wales about 2 miles J 35 M4, looking for ?450 ono cash on collection. Leighton. GW3FSP.
I have a FT847 but my serial number 8Exxx. This corresponds to the number before the famous 8GE series. I understand that I have a one-way CAT connection. So is there a modification for this or how can I switch to a bidirectional CAT connection?
Hi, I had been wondering if anyone has flashed the firmware on a Yaesu FT847? The original firmware allows for Doppler shifting as we all know and obviously inhibits full duplex on same band which is understandable. What CAT commands can also do is switch on SPLIT. However, SPLIT does not allow you to write to the SUB-VFO in SPLIT mode.
Does anyone has experience of flashing the original firmware for the FT847? I wonder is a modified Firmware could send CAT commands (if the CPU allows it) to the SUB-VFO in SPLIT mode?
If anyone has any thoughts on this I would be grateful to hear. I honestly can’t see hardware constraints and the commands may be implemented but hidden as they may not be needed.
I can’t see any reason to swap SUB-VFO for the main VFO set the frequency and swap it back again if it’s constrained. Every button must go via the processor and thus must be selectable from the CPU command set as a register. Simply having the code available to set a button in the firmware should unlock access to a command set for every button (totally overkill but workable).
mouser.com and digikey.com have a selection of mini DIN connectors, AllElectronics and Hosfelt were good choices but they are both no longer in business.