Try a program called VSPE or Virtual Serial Port Emulator and choose splitter. Then select COM20 as your virtual port and make sure you set a common baud rate. Then set the same baud rate for CAT and control in the other 2 options whilst ensuring the baud rate is correct.
De Spence G5STO
VSPE is free and give prompts after 30 days to register but it doesn’t stop functioning just doesn’t allow you to save the settings until you register. Sent while portable! please excuse typos.
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On 24 Mar 2024, at 22:50, Greg D <ko6th.greg@...> wrote:
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Splitting out the serial port's signals for CAT and PTT is great if
the software supports it - both CAT and PTT on the same adapter -
without a conflict.? Sounds like it does.? Thanks for mentioning
that.
I don't have a SignaLink box, instead running my digital modes from
Linux on a Raspberry Pi and a custom set of cables.? Initially I
used a GPIO pin to drive PTT, but ran into software that wasn't
tuned for the Pi platform (didn't "do" GPIO), so had to add another
serial adapter on USB.? Matched that with a multi-ported audio cable
to both DIN and TRS ports, along with switches for polarity (active
high vs low), etc.? It's my Winchester Mystery Adapter, one that
kind of grew on its own with no end in sight.? Probably something I
should rework for whatever PTT commonality there exists among ALL
the software apps (WSJTX, Fldigi, Direwolf, QSSTV, etc...).?
Modem-based PTT is likely the one.? If I can break that out from the
CAT port, that would simplify things even further.? I believe that
Craig KM6LYW (creator of the DigiPi) uses a single method for all
software in his system.
Greg? KO6TH
Tim Davis KJ4DHF via groups.io wrote:
Hello Greg,
I am curious with the Signal Link keying the radio via VOX
generated PTT also.
As the SL has nothing to do with the CAT then the AFSK software
should work via VOX setting and not comm port PTT. With this black
sheep radio from Yaesu there is no telling.
Maybe John "AB0VX"can run a couple test to see with his 847 and
Signal Link.
I will be ordering me a SL and module for my 847 in next few
day's.
I tried using the Easy Digi by KF5INZ as I used them on other rigs
and had a spare here. I could never get it to pass audio trying to
trigger PTT from the current on the TX audio line from pc to 847.
It would work if I used a second serial port on pc to key PTT on
the Easy Digi. I just did not want to have to tie up 2 com ports
on pc to 1 for CAT and 1 for PTT. I could make it work if I built
my own Null modem cable from PC to 847 and pull the wires for
DTR/RTS from same com port to interface board.
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Splitting out the serial port's signals for CAT and PTT is great if
the software supports it - both CAT and PTT on the same adapter -
without a conflict.? Sounds like it does.? Thanks for mentioning
that.
I don't have a SignaLink box, instead running my digital modes from
Linux on a Raspberry Pi and a custom set of cables.? Initially I
used a GPIO pin to drive PTT, but ran into software that wasn't
tuned for the Pi platform (didn't "do" GPIO), so had to add another
serial adapter on USB.? Matched that with a multi-ported audio cable
to both DIN and TRS ports, along with switches for polarity (active
high vs low), etc.? It's my Winchester Mystery Adapter, one that
kind of grew on its own with no end in sight.? Probably something I
should rework for whatever PTT commonality there exists among ALL
the software apps (WSJTX, Fldigi, Direwolf, QSSTV, etc...).?
Modem-based PTT is likely the one.? If I can break that out from the
CAT port, that would simplify things even further.? I believe that
Craig KM6LYW (creator of the DigiPi) uses a single method for all
software in his system.
Greg? KO6TH
Tim Davis KJ4DHF via groups.io wrote:
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Hello Greg,
I am curious with the Signal Link keying the radio via VOX
generated PTT also.
As the SL has nothing to do with the CAT then the AFSK software
should work via VOX setting and not comm port PTT. With this black
sheep radio from Yaesu there is no telling.
Maybe John "AB0VX"can run a couple test to see with his 847 and
Signal Link.
I will be ordering me a SL and module for my 847 in next few
day's.
I tried using the Easy Digi by KF5INZ as I used them on other rigs
and had a spare here. I could never get it to pass audio trying to
trigger PTT from the current on the TX audio line from pc to 847.
It would work if I used a second serial port on pc to key PTT on
the Easy Digi. I just did not want to have to tie up 2 com ports
on pc to 1 for CAT and 1 for PTT. I could make it work if I built
my own Null modem cable from PC to 847 and pull the wires for
DTR/RTS from same com port to interface board.
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Hello Greg,
I am curious with the Signal Link keying the radio via VOX generated PTT also.
As the SL has nothing to do with the CAT then the AFSK software should work via VOX setting and not comm port PTT. With this black sheep radio from Yaesu there is no telling.
Maybe John "AB0VX"can run a couple test to see with his 847 and Signal Link.
I will be ordering me a SL and module for my 847 in next few day's.
I tried using the Easy Digi by KF5INZ as I used them on other rigs and had a spare here. I could never get it to pass audio trying to trigger PTT from the current on the TX audio line from pc to 847. It would work if I used a second serial port on pc to key PTT on the Easy Digi. I just did not want to have to tie up 2 com ports on pc to 1 for CAT and 1 for PTT. I could make it work if I built my own Null modem cable from PC to 847 and pull the wires for DTR/RTS from same com port to interface board.
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I think you must be right, that the SignaLink's internal
VOX-generated PTT is what is triggering the 847 via the Data
connector.? Changing the PTT Method to VOX in WSJT-X would confirm
this.? Apparently, when both Data PTT and CAT PTT are present, the
Data port wins.?
That said, I was able to *barely* use the Data port's audio with PTT
coming from CAT.? The muting of the Data port's audio isn't perfect,
so if you feed a strong (speaker-level) audio into it, a little
sneaks through.? I doubt this was what they had in mind.? No idea
how close I came to damaging the rig by doing so, but it was worth a
multiplier one Field Day some years ago...? :)
Greg? KO6TH
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Hi John,
Thanks for the info.
Using your SignalLink with the SLCAB847 is 1 way I was looking at
going. With the SL you also need the jumper module SLMODHT
correct?
And from what I understand is the jumper module is what controls
the CAT on the DATA In/Out port on rig. So if that is case should
not need CAT enabled in either WSJT-X or DMR780 for rtty/psk. Or
am I just overthinking this to much?
?Now that really sparks my interest as SL says the SLCAB847 will
only work on HF and has to use front mic for UHF/VHF.
I also sent you an email from qrz email address.
Tim
KJ4DHF
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Hi John,
Thanks for the info.
Using your SignalLink with the SLCAB847 is 1 way I was looking at going. With the SL you also need the jumper module SLMODHT correct?
And from what I understand is the jumper module is what controls the CAT on the DATA In/Out port on rig. So if that is case should not need CAT enabled in either WSJT-X or DMR780 for rtty/psk. Or am I just overthinking this to much?
?Now that really sparks my interest as SL says the SLCAB847 will only work on HF and has to use front mic for UHF/VHF.
I also sent you an email from qrz email address.
Tim
KJ4DHF
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Greetings,
My FT-847 is connected to a SignaLink USB via a SignaLink?SLCAB847 cable plugged into the Data IN/Out jack on the rear of the radio.? I run WSJT-X with CAT control for the PTT and frequency control.? On HF and 6m I?regularly operate using?FT-8, FT-4, and WSPR and it works good for me.? On 2m and 70cm I've run WSPR with the same hardware and it works just as well as it does on HF.? This morning, I tested it on both 2m and 70cm using FT-8 and the CAT control changes frequency's and controls the radio's PTT as expected.
I've also used the same hardware configuration with JS8Call, which is based on WSJT-X.? It works as expected with CAT control for frequency selection and PTT.? I tested JS8Call on 2m this morning and the radio transmitted using CAT PTT.
Attached my WSJT-X configuration screen for the above hardware configuration.? I happen to use 9600 baud instead of 4800 baud which is the default.? I've used 4800 baud in the past and it works just fine.? Keep in mind that that some early FT-847's may only support unidirectional data on the CAT port.
73,
John
AB0VX
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I've used the Digirig on both the DATA and 6 pin DIN ports on the FT-847.? It worked very well in both cases.?
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Hello All,
Well that makes sense as to why it was not passing audio back to radio as PTT was being handled via CAT like all my other rigs.
Does not make sense why Yaesu done it that way except that it mutes the mic or suppose to on the 847. I will add the cap and the resistor into the interface
line to see if that takes care of the problem.
Thanks All
Tim
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As Stu notes, the challenge with using the 847 with the digital
modes is that the source of PTT needs to be the same as the source
of the audio, EXCEPT for CAT.? CAT control of PTT for some reason
that continues to baffle me uses audio from the mike jack in the
front of the radio.? I have yet to figure out a use for PTT
via CAT.
HF modes use the data jack and the PTT circuit, VHF/UHF packet uses
the DIN and the separate PTT pin, so if you have one sound card for
both modes it becomes an interesting challenge in building a cable
with the right connectors (and DC-blocking) to do both.
Greg? KO6TH
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Hello All,
Before I shell out the $$$ for a SCU-17 or SignalLink I have a
couple questions.
When using the Data IN/OUT port on back of rig do you need to also
wired in the PTT circuit shown on page 19 of the User Manual.
I ask because my logging and digital modes software will key radio
via CAT.
Or is it mandatory that when using HF Data Port PTT has to be
controlled via the Data Port.
I would like to use the radio on VHF/UHF data modes also and I
know that going to be on the mini din.
I went thru my spare parts box today and tried to wire up the Easy
Digi interface to see how the radio would do on some HF FT-8. I
had audio from rig to pc no problem along with PTT from HRD CAT or
WSJT-X. I just could not get audio from the pc back into radio and
Tx the audio. It would key radio but showed no output power on
radio meter,In line power meter.
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According to some notes I copied from one of the forums (either VarAC or VARA).......here is what was said.? I'm sorry I didn't make a note of the source it came from.? VarAC is typically done on HF.
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Congratulations, your latest VarAC 3.7.9 with 847 rig now can handle the ft847 with PTT over RTS or CTS and CAT over serial-com.
Here the specific ft847 requirements as I have it working:
1.? PTT and modulation must be on the same connector with ptt over RTS or CTS, and NOT ptt over cat
2.? The PKT connector is ONLY for FM. The Data-In-Out connector is ONLY for all except FM, usually SSB. VaraHF uses Data-In-Out.
3.? The circuit diagram in Yaesu-manual-(my page 16) has a wrong capacitor with 10uF in "afsk-out". I must use 0.47uF. With 10uF my ptt switches too slowly.
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Depending on which brand of sound card interface you get dictates if it keys the radio via VOX or using CAT.? ?I have a SignaLink which uses VOX on the DATA in/out port for HF on the rear panel of the FT-847.? To the best of my knowledge, I do not believe that the SignaLink can use CAT for it's HF PTT operation.? You can look on their website to see what it supports for the FT-847.? That all being said, the HF digital works as expected on mine.?
You are correct in that if you intend on using the VHF/UHF FM data modes, it will be via the 6 pin DIN connector.??
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Hello All,
Before I shell out the $$$ for a SCU-17 or SignalLink I have a couple questions.
When using the Data IN/OUT port on back of rig do you need to also wired in the PTT circuit shown on page 19 of the User Manual.
I ask because my logging and digital modes software will key radio via CAT.
Or is it mandatory that when using HF Data Port PTT has to be controlled via the Data Port.
I would like to use the radio on VHF/UHF data modes also and I know that going to be on the mini din.
I went thru my spare parts box today and tried to wire up the Easy Digi interface to see how the radio would do on some HF FT-8. I had audio from rig to pc no problem along with PTT from HRD CAT or WSJT-X. I just could not get audio from the pc back into radio and Tx the audio. It would key radio but showed no output power on radio meter,In line power meter.
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Re: Molex plug for FT847 power.
Hello Jim
The Molex 39-03-6064 was a bust. The pitch is 6.7mm as the rig's pitch is 6.0mm
I did manage to crimp the crap connector female pins with a .100" crimper and they now fit nicely in the stock rig connector.
Took the new gold plated female's and used the crap housing and now the rig doesn't cut out when you wiggle the power
plug. By the way the crap connector's female pins are the same as what I received today (to big in diameter).
Not sure what to tell you on finding a male connector like what's in the rig as they seem to be allusive.
73
Pat KD4OBQ
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Re: Molex plug for FT847 power.
Hello Micky.
I cheat.? I go to our local Hobby Town and get a piece of K&S
brass tubing that just fits over the end of the male or female pin
I want to remove and slide it down so it pushes the barbs down and
the pin can be removed.
Thank you.
Jim Pruitt
WA7DUY
On 2/7/2024 3:59 PM, Micky Corrow via
groups.io wrote:
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If you think that is expensive, wait until you price the
crimping tool!
Micky K1XH
On 2024-02-07 06:12 PM, KD4OBQ wrote:
Hello Jim, Give me a few days as I placed
an order with Mouser and opted for the gold plated contacts.
Here are the manufacture part numbers.
Housing 39-03-6064 (1 needed)
Female pin? 02-09-5143(4 needed)
sad part is a single pin cost more than the housing lol
73
Pat KD4OBQ
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Re: Molex plug for FT847 power.
Hello Pat.
I need the socket that mates with the power cord end (or same as
socket on the back of the radio) so I can make an adapter cable to
try and fix an Icom that uses a 4 pin Molex!? Not sure why they
used 4 pin on them when most YaeCommWood rigs of that era all used
the 6 pin plug!? I did not want to chop the one off the cord on
the power supply since I still need it to power the FT840 and
FT847.
Thank you.
Jim Pruitt
WA7DUY
On 2/7/2024 5:32 AM, KD4OBQ wrote:
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Hello Jim
I just ran through this problem with an Icom and ordered a few
connectors to only find out they were crap. Hopefully someone here
will have some insight on some good ones. This is why I try and
save everything however when I went to power up the Icom on
the work bench I couldn't find a cord. Ended up robbing one from
an old Kenwood. My problem is that I give away too much
surplus and must have given my last one away. I would also be very
interested on a good source for those 6 pin connectors.
Purchased a dozen 4 pin power connectors 10+ years ago when they
were new to me and they have been serving me well.
Never thought I would have problems with the 6 pin connectors.
73
Pat KD4OBQ
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Re: Molex plug for FT847 power.
Hello Sjoerd.
That (AliExpress part) is the wrong end.? I need the one that
mates to it.? I think (hope) the Molex 39-03-6064 you linked at
Mouser is the one I need.
Thank you.
Jim Pruitt
WA7DUY
On 2/7/2024 1:49 AM, Sjoerd PA3DOL
wrote:
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Or
maybe order:
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Good
Luck
?
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Can someone
give me the Molex/Waldon part number for the power plug for
the FT847 (and cord mounted socket for it if you know)?? I
see places that sell the cable but nowhere do I find the
part number (even on the part) so I suspect they are Chinese
clones.
At any rate,? does anyone know the part number for the power
plug?
Thank you.
Jim Pruitt
WA7DUY
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Re: Molex plug for FT847 power.
If you think that is expensive, wait until you price the crimping tool!
Micky K1XH
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On 2024-02-07 06:12 PM, KD4OBQ wrote:
Hello Jim, Give me a few days as I placed an order with Mouser and opted for the gold plated contacts. Here are the manufacture part numbers.
Housing 39-03-6064 (1 needed)
Female pin? 02-09-5143(4 needed)
sad part is a single pin cost more than the housing lol
73
Pat KD4OBQ
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Re: Molex plug for FT847 power.
Hello Jim, Give me a few days as I placed an order with Mouser and opted for the gold plated contacts. Here are the manufacture part numbers.
Housing 39-03-6064 (1 needed)
Female pin? 02-09-5143(4 needed)
sad part is a single pin cost more than the housing lol
73
Pat KD4OBQ
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Re: Molex plug for FT847 power.
Hello Jim
I just ran through this problem with an Icom and ordered a few connectors to only find out they were crap. Hopefully someone here
will have some insight on some good ones. This is why I try and save everything however when I went to power up the Icom on
the work bench I couldn't find a cord. Ended up robbing one from an old Kenwood. My problem is that I give away too much
surplus and must have given my last one away. I would also be very interested on a good source for those 6 pin connectors.
Purchased a dozen 4 pin power connectors 10+ years ago when they were new to me and they have been serving me well.
Never thought I would have problems with the 6 pin connectors.
73
Pat KD4OBQ
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Re: Molex plug for FT847 power.
Or maybe order: ?
? ? Good Luck ?
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Jim Pruitt WA7DUY
Sent: dinsdag 6 februari 2024 23:43
To: [email protected]
Subject: [YaesuFT847] Molex plug for FT847 power.? Can someone give me the Molex/Waldon part number for the power plug for the FT847 (and cord mounted socket for it if you know)?? I see places that sell the cable but nowhere do I find the part number (even on the part) so I suspect they are Chinese clones.
At any rate,? does anyone know the part number for the power plug?
Thank you.
Jim Pruitt
WA7DUY
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Spence G5STO
Stu Olson
KD4OBQ