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Apologies if this has been covered!? I have a 60R, VX5, and a FT2DR.? My question - can I clone from one model to another (i.e.; 60R to VX5) or does cloning only work between the same models (60R to 60R)?
Terry - km0u
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Software from RTSystems.com DOES allow you to "cut and paste" and do what you want to do.?
I am not sure of CHIRP does that - but CHIRP comes with a warning, "No guarantee we won't ruin your radio."
--
Clint Bradford K6LCS
http//www.work-sat.com
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You cannot clone from one model to a different model. All you can do is copy the file, CHIRP, RT, etc., from one file to another file and reprogram that way. 73
Randy
N4QWK
-----Original Message-----
From: lemk1ter via groups.io <lemk1ter@...>
To: Yaesu-FT-60@groups.io
Sent: Tue, May 26, 2020 12:39 pm
Subject: [Yaesu-FT-60] Rig to Rig Cloning
Apologies if this has been covered!? I have a 60R, VX5, and a FT2DR.? My question - can I clone from one model to another (i.e.; 60R to VX5) or does cloning only work between the same models (60R to 60R)?
Terry - km0u
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RT systems is the way?to go. Easy to copy?and paste data between files which are then written to radios. I do it with vx3, ft60, ft70, several ft880's, and an alinco 735.
73
Brian
You cannot clone from one model to a different model. All you can do is copy the file, CHIRP, RT, etc., from one file to another file and reprogram that way. 73
Randy
N4QWK
-----Original Message-----
From: lemk1ter via <lemk1ter= yahoo.com@groups.io>
To: Yaesu-FT-60@groups.io
Sent: Tue, May 26, 2020 12:39 pm
Subject: [Yaesu-FT-60] Rig to Rig Cloning
Apologies if this has been covered!? I have a 60R, VX5, and a FT2DR.? My question - can I clone from one model to another (i.e.; 60R to VX5) or does cloning only work between the same models (60R to 60R)?
Terry - km0u
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Brian, are you able to do that with one
cable and set of software? As I recall they make it *sound* as
though setups are needed for each.
??? ??? Thanks, Christian KD2LIN
On 5/26/2020 9:27 PM, Brian Smithson
wrote:
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RT systems is the way?to go. Easy to copy?and
paste data between files which are then written to radios. I do
it with vx3, ft60, ft70, several ft880's, and an alinco 735.
73
Brian
You cannot clone from one model to a
different model. All you can do is copy the file, CHIRP,
RT, etc., from one file to another file and reprogram
that way. 73
Randy
N4QWK
-----Original
Message-----
From: lemk1ter via
<lemk1ter= yahoo.com@groups.io>
To: Yaesu-FT-60@groups.io
Sent: Tue, May 26, 2020 12:39 pm
Subject: [Yaesu-FT-60] Rig to Rig Cloning
Apologies if
this has been covered!? I have a 60R, VX5, and a FT2DR.?
My question - can I clone from one model to another
(i.e.; 60R to VX5) or does cloning only work between the
same models (60R to 60R)?
Terry - km0u
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Usually not - different radios have different firmware, and require different RTSystems titles to program. Some brands use the same cable - but all that info is on the RTSystems site.
--
Clint Bradford K6LCS
http//www.work-sat.com
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As Clint says, each radio is am RT systems SKU. Some use the same cable, most do not.?
Still, if you have several radios and want to keep them programed the same, it's the cleanest option.
73
Brian n8wrl
On Tue, May 26, 2020, 9:55 PM Christian Sweningsen KD2LIN < csweningsen@...> wrote:
Brian, are you able to do that with one
cable and set of software? As I recall they make it *sound* as
though setups are needed for each.
??? ??? Thanks, Christian KD2LIN
On 5/26/2020 9:27 PM, Brian Smithson
wrote:
RT systems is the way?to go. Easy to copy?and
paste data between files which are then written to radios. I do
it with vx3, ft60, ft70, several ft880's, and an alinco 735.
73
Brian
You cannot clone from one model to a
different model. All you can do is copy the file, CHIRP,
RT, etc., from one file to another file and reprogram
that way. 73
Randy
N4QWK
-----Original
Message-----
From: lemk1ter via
<lemk1ter= yahoo.com@groups.io>
To: Yaesu-FT-60@groups.io
Sent: Tue, May 26, 2020 12:39 pm
Subject: [Yaesu-FT-60] Rig to Rig Cloning
Apologies if
this has been covered!? I have a 60R, VX5, and a FT2DR.?
My question - can I clone from one model to another
(i.e.; 60R to VX5) or does cloning only work between the
same models (60R to 60R)?
Terry - km0u
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Cleanest and cheapest option is CHIRP. RT Systems is fine if you have lots of money to spend. I do not know of any radios that have been bricked by CHIRP.?
On Wednesday, May 27, 2020, 03:35, Brian Smithson <brianesmithson@...> wrote: As Clint says, each radio is am RT systems SKU. Some use the same cable, most do not.?
Still, if you have several radios and want to keep them programed the same, it's the cleanest option.
73
Brian n8wrl On Tue, May 26, 2020, 9:55 PM Christian Sweningsen KD2LIN < csweningsen@...> wrote:
Brian, are you able to do that with one
cable and set of software? As I recall they make it *sound* as
though setups are needed for each.
??? ??? Thanks, Christian KD2LIN
On 5/26/2020 9:27 PM, Brian Smithson
wrote:
RT systems is the way?to go. Easy to copy?and
paste data between files which are then written to radios. I do
it with vx3, ft60, ft70, several ft880's, and an alinco 735.
73
Brian
You cannot clone from one model to a
different model. All you can do is copy the file, CHIRP,
RT, etc., from one file to another file and reprogram
that way. 73
Randy
N4QWK
-----Original
Message-----
From: lemk1ter via
<lemk1ter= yahoo.com@groups.io>
To: Yaesu-FT-60@groups.io
Sent: Tue, May 26, 2020 12:39 pm
Subject: [Yaesu-FT-60] Rig to Rig Cloning
Apologies if
this has been covered!? I have a 60R, VX5, and a FT2DR.?
My question - can I clone from one model to another
(i.e.; 60R to VX5) or does cloning only work between the
same models (60R to 60R)?
Terry - km0u
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I agree. CHIRP is great (when it works). RT Systems is good if you have multiple radio models and need to program a large amount, but it's pricy. RT Systems also has different programs for nearly identical radios so you have to pay for a new program. The Yaesu FT-8800 and 8900 is just one example.
Randy
N4QWK
-----Original Message-----
From: JARDY DAWSON via groups.io <JARDY72@...>
To: Yaesu-FT-60@groups.io
Sent: Wed, May 27, 2020 9:11 am
Subject: Re: [Yaesu-FT-60] Rig to Rig Cloning
Cleanest and cheapest option is CHIRP. RT Systems is fine if you have lots of money to spend. I do not know of any radios that have been bricked by CHIRP.?
On Wednesday, May 27, 2020, 03:35, Brian Smithson <brianesmithson@...> wrote:
As Clint says, each radio is am RT systems SKU. Some use the same cable, most do not.?
Still, if you have several radios and want to keep them programed the same, it's the cleanest option.
73
Brian n8wrl
On Tue, May 26, 2020, 9:55 PM Christian Sweningsen KD2LIN < csweningsen@...> wrote:
Brian, are you able to do that with one
cable and set of software? As I recall they make it *sound* as
though setups are needed for each.
??? ??? Thanks, Christian KD2LIN
On 5/26/2020 9:27 PM, Brian Smithson
wrote:
RT systems is the way?to go. Easy to copy?and
paste data between files which are then written to radios. I do
it with vx3, ft60, ft70, several ft880's, and an alinco 735.
73
Brian
You cannot clone from one model to a
different model. All you can do is copy the file, CHIRP,
RT, etc., from one file to another file and reprogram
that way. 73
Randy
N4QWK
-----Original
Message-----
From: lemk1ter via
<lemk1ter= yahoo.com@groups.io>
To: Yaesu-FT-60@groups.io
Sent: Tue, May 26, 2020 12:39 pm
Subject: [Yaesu-FT-60] Rig to Rig Cloning
Apologies if
this has been covered!? I have a 60R, VX5, and a FT2DR.?
My question - can I clone from one model to another
(i.e.; 60R to VX5) or does cloning only work between the
same models (60R to 60R)?
Terry - km0u
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For me it all boils down to how much fiddling I want to do. As you say, Chirp is great when it works.? I have had *many* problems with drivers for cables, counterfeit USB drivers, Chirp compatibility, etc. etc. I have had *none* of that since I went to RT Systems. Yes, you have to buy a new version for similar-seeming radios. I say "similar-seeming" because I've had FT7800 and FT8800's - very similar radios, that actually have?programming differences.?
So you're probably looking ~$50 per radio-model for the software and cable. But it will work, and RT Systems will support you.?
I have no affiliation with RT Systems, just a satisfied customer.
The only thing I wish RT would do, and I have suggested this to them, is come up with a "master database" of all my frequencies that each of the radio-specific programs talk to to send those frequencies to each radio. As it is now I make changes in one radio-program and do a mass-copy-paste to the others. Workable because for me it's 5 radios, but it would?be more convenient.
To each his own!
73
-Brian n8wrl
I agree. CHIRP is great (when it works). RT Systems is good if you have multiple radio models and need to program a large amount, but it's pricy. RT Systems also has different programs for nearly identical radios so you have to pay for a new program. The Yaesu FT-8800 and 8900 is just one example.
Randy
N4QWK
-----Original Message-----
From: JARDY DAWSON via <JARDY72= YAHOO.COM@groups.io>
To: Yaesu-FT-60@groups.io
Sent: Wed, May 27, 2020 9:11 am
Subject: Re: [Yaesu-FT-60] Rig to Rig Cloning
Cleanest and cheapest option is CHIRP. RT Systems is fine if you have lots of money to spend. I do not know of any radios that have been bricked by CHIRP.?
As Clint says, each radio is am RT systems SKU. Some use the same cable, most do not.?
Still, if you have several radios and want to keep them programed the same, it's the cleanest option.
73
Brian n8wrl
On Tue, May 26, 2020, 9:55 PM Christian Sweningsen KD2LIN < csweningsen@...> wrote:
Brian, are you able to do that with one
cable and set of software? As I recall they make it *sound* as
though setups are needed for each.
??? ??? Thanks, Christian KD2LIN
On 5/26/2020 9:27 PM, Brian Smithson
wrote:
RT systems is the way?to go. Easy to copy?and
paste data between files which are then written to radios. I do
it with vx3, ft60, ft70, several ft880's, and an alinco 735.
73
Brian
You cannot clone from one model to a
different model. All you can do is copy the file, CHIRP,
RT, etc., from one file to another file and reprogram
that way. 73
Randy
N4QWK
-----Original
Message-----
From: lemk1ter via
<lemk1ter= yahoo.com@groups.io>
To: Yaesu-FT-60@groups.io
Sent: Tue, May 26, 2020 12:39 pm
Subject: [Yaesu-FT-60] Rig to Rig Cloning
Apologies if
this has been covered!? I have a 60R, VX5, and a FT2DR.?
My question - can I clone from one model to another
(i.e.; 60R to VX5) or does cloning only work between the
same models (60R to 60R)?
Terry - km0u
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Thank you all for the many replies.? I will download CHIRP and give it a whirl. 73, terry - km0u
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From their Web site - Is CHIRP safe to use with my radio?
The CHIRP development team takes radio safety seriously. We receive no help from the vendors or manufacturers of the radios, and as such our drivers are developed by reverse-engineering. There is some risk involved in that, but everything carries some amount of risk (like buying the cheapest possible programming cable from questionable eBay vendors to program your expensive radio with). As with anything that is widely deployed and used by regular people, over time urban legends have developed about CHIRP, how it works, and how it is or is not dangerous to use. The internet gives anyone a soap box to stand on, and it places everyone on an equal footing, regardless of their actual level of understanding of the thing they're talking about. CHIRP comes with no warranty (or cost!) and you are always using it at your own risk. However, here are some facts from the people that have developed it that you can use to draw your own informed conclusions:
- Developers are taking the most risk by writing the drivers and testing them against their own radios. No developer has ever permanently damaged their radio (or if they did, they didn't tell anyone about it)
- We write the drivers to behave exactly as we observe the official software (or cloning routines) to behave
- No manufacturer or vendor has ever approached us and asked us to remove support for their radio from CHIRP, or to make any changes to the driver for increased safety
- Some large vendors actually choose to?rely?on CHIRP exclusively as their programming tool, not releasing (or supporting) the manufacturer's software at all
- Many thousands of users around the world use CHIRP every day, including individual users, resellers, and professional fleet managers
-- Clint Bradford K6LCS http//www.work-sat.com
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RT systems... You get what you pay for!
?
73
Brian n8wrl
On Fri, May 29, 2020, 12:05 AM Clint Bradford via <clintbradford= mac.com@groups.io> wrote: From their Web site - Is CHIRP safe to use with my radio?
The CHIRP development team takes radio safety seriously. We receive no help from the vendors or manufacturers of the radios, and as such our drivers are developed by reverse-engineering. There is some risk involved in that, but everything carries some amount of risk (like buying the cheapest possible programming cable from questionable eBay vendors to program your expensive radio with). As with anything that is widely deployed and used by regular people, over time urban legends have developed about CHIRP, how it works, and how it is or is not dangerous to use. The internet gives anyone a soap box to stand on, and it places everyone on an equal footing, regardless of their actual level of understanding of the thing they're talking about. CHIRP comes with no warranty (or cost!) and you are always using it at your own risk. However, here are some facts from the people that have developed it that you can use to draw your own informed conclusions:
- Developers are taking the most risk by writing the drivers and testing them against their own radios. No developer has ever permanently damaged their radio (or if they did, they didn't tell anyone about it)
- We write the drivers to behave exactly as we observe the official software (or cloning routines) to behave
- No manufacturer or vendor has ever approached us and asked us to remove support for their radio from CHIRP, or to make any changes to the driver for increased safety
- Some large vendors actually choose to?rely?on CHIRP exclusively as their programming tool, not releasing (or supporting) the manufacturer's software at all
- Many thousands of users around the world use CHIRP every day, including individual users, resellers, and professional fleet managers
--
Clint Bradford K6LCS
http//
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Clint Bradford