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Opening up the FT 60/MARS Modificatoin


 

I don't believe the FT 60 is Narrowband capable.?
Opening up the frequency section would not give you much access to MARS or Public Safety in the USA as both services have converted to this mode. Additionally most Urban public safety agencies are using Trunking systems which the FT60 won't do. Many have moved to 700 and 800 Mhz.

Even our Rural fire departments have converted to Narrowband on VHF.

You can still listen to Marine VHF if you are near the water.

73

Jim Bassett, RMC(AC), USN, Retired
Las Vegas Fire & Rescue, Communications, Retired
NNZ9KQ-SHARES, Southwest Region Net Operations Manager
W1RO-ARRL Life Member-A1 Op
Nevada Section Traffic Manager


Scott ..
 

Does anyone have an alternative radio to recommend?

73 de Scott/n7net



 

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Wouxun KG-UV6, Anytone 868, 878, etc. look for Part 90 certified. Commercial radios can do ham freqs, ham radio cannot do commercial or public safety.?

Jardy Dawson WA7JRD

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On Jan 12, 2021, at 13:13, Scott .. via groups.io <n7net@...> wrote:

?Does anyone have an alternative radio to recommend?

73 de Scott/n7net



 

Jardy,
Part 90 is not good for part 95 service! So owning a part 90 approved radio is
still illegal for GMRS and MURS!
As mentioned earlier there radios that are part 95 approved which can be used by amateurs.
Rudi
wa2nub

On Tuesday, January 12, 2021, 5:51:24 PM EST, JARDY DAWSON via groups.io <jardy72@...> wrote:


Wouxun KG-UV6, Anytone 868, 878, etc. look for Part 90 certified. Commercial radios can do ham freqs, ham radio cannot do commercial or public safety.?

Jardy Dawson WA7JRD

Message sent by....Oh look!! Pretty lights!!


On Jan 12, 2021, at 13:13, Scott .. via groups.io <n7net@...> wrote:

?Does anyone have an alternative radio to recommend?

73 de Scott/n7net



 

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We weren’t talking about part 95 (GMRS, FRS, MURS, CB), only public safety and commercial. I do agree neither ham radios or public safety radios can be used on Part 95. Because Part 95 radios are not programmable, those radios cannot be used on ham or public safety, even during emergencies. I am not aware of any Part 95 radios that can be used for ham. Public safety, yes.?

Jardy Dawson WA7JRD

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On Jan 13, 2021, at 08:15, Rudi via groups.io <wa2nub@...> wrote:

?
Jardy,
Part 90 is not good for part 95 service! So owning a part 90 approved radio is
still illegal for GMRS and MURS!
As mentioned earlier there radios that are part 95 approved which can be used by amateurs.
Rudi
wa2nub

On Tuesday, January 12, 2021, 5:51:24 PM EST, JARDY DAWSON via groups.io <jardy72@...> wrote:


Wouxun KG-UV6, Anytone 868, 878, etc. look for Part 90 certified. Commercial radios can do ham freqs, ham radio cannot do commercial or public safety.?

Jardy Dawson WA7JRD

Message sent by....Oh look!! Pretty lights!!


On Jan 12, 2021, at 13:13, Scott .. via groups.io <n7net@...> wrote:

?Does anyone have an alternative radio to recommend?

73 de Scott/n7net



 

During an emergency, ANY radio can be used for communications.

Randy Urick
N4QWK



-----Original Message-----
From: JARDY DAWSON via groups.io <JARDY72@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wed, Jan 13, 2021 11:24 am
Subject: Re: [Yaesu-FT-60] Opening up the FT 60/MARS Modificatoin

We weren’t talking about part 95 (GMRS, FRS, MURS, CB), only public safety and commercial. I do agree neither ham radios or public safety radios can be used on Part 95. Because Part 95 radios are not programmable, those radios cannot be used on ham or public safety, even during emergencies. I am not aware of any Part 95 radios that can be used for ham. Public safety, yes.?

Jardy Dawson WA7JRD

Message sent by....Oh look!! Pretty lights!!


On Jan 13, 2021, at 08:15, Rudi via groups.io <wa2nub@...> wrote:

?
Jardy,
Part 90 is not good for part 95 service! So owning a part 90 approved radio is
still illegal for GMRS and MURS!
As mentioned earlier there radios that are part 95 approved which can be used by amateurs.
Rudi
wa2nub

On Tuesday, January 12, 2021, 5:51:24 PM EST, JARDY DAWSON via groups.io <jardy72@...> wrote:


Wouxun KG-UV6, Anytone 868, 878, etc. look for Part 90 certified. Commercial radios can do ham freqs, ham radio cannot do commercial or public safety.?

Jardy Dawson WA7JRD

Message sent by....Oh look!! Pretty lights!!


On Jan 12, 2021, at 13:13, Scott .. via groups.io <n7net@...> wrote:

?Does anyone have an alternative radio to recommend?

73 de Scott/n7net



 

I think the point is that while any radio can be used in an emergency some radios use different protocols, frequencies, etc that not all radios are capable of employing and therefore no one would hear them.


 

Yes, Narrow Band is an available option.? No mod needed.? See programming software and/or the owners' manual.? Set mode 55.

73
Bob
K2GHY


 

I believe that usage during an emergency is restricted: only during
emergencies when an imminent danger to a human life. It is not legal
to use ANY radio in an emergency unless danger to human life.

Quote from Part 97:
§97.403 Safety of life and protection of property.

No provision of these rules prevents the use by an amateur station of
any means of radiocommunication at its disposal to provide essential
communication needs in connection with the immediate safety of human
life and immediate protection of property when normal communication
systems are not available.

Andy
KI6SEP

On Wed, Jan 13, 2021 at 12:20 PM Randolph Urick via groups.io
<raurick@...> wrote:

During an emergency, ANY radio can be used for communications.

Randy Urick
N4QWK



-----Original Message-----
From: JARDY DAWSON via groups.io <JARDY72@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wed, Jan 13, 2021 11:24 am
Subject: Re: [Yaesu-FT-60] Opening up the FT 60/MARS Modificatoin

We weren’t talking about part 95 (GMRS, FRS, MURS, CB), only public safety and commercial. I do agree neither ham radios or public safety radios can be used on Part 95. Because Part 95 radios are not programmable, those radios cannot be used on ham or public safety, even during emergencies. I am not aware of any Part 95 radios that can be used for ham. Public safety, yes.

Jardy Dawson WA7JRD

Message sent by....Oh look!! Pretty lights!!


On Jan 13, 2021, at 08:15, Rudi via groups.io <wa2nub@...> wrote:

?
Jardy,
Part 90 is not good for part 95 service! So owning a part 90 approved radio is
still illegal for GMRS and MURS!
As mentioned earlier there radios that are part 95 approved which can be used by amateurs.
Rudi
wa2nub

On Tuesday, January 12, 2021, 5:51:24 PM EST, JARDY DAWSON via groups.io <jardy72@...> wrote:


Wouxun KG-UV6, Anytone 868, 878, etc. look for Part 90 certified. Commercial radios can do ham freqs, ham radio cannot do commercial or public safety.

Jardy Dawson WA7JRD

Message sent by....Oh look!! Pretty lights!!


On Jan 12, 2021, at 13:13, Scott .. via groups.io <n7net@...> wrote:

?Does anyone have an alternative radio to recommend?

73 de Scott/n7net



 

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I do not believe there is a similar statement available under Part 90 or Part 95 rules. ?

Jardy Dawson WA7JRD

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On Jan 13, 2021, at 11:24, Andy KI6SEP <ki6sep@...> wrote:

?I believe that usage during an emergency is restricted: only during
emergencies when an imminent danger to a human life. ?It is not legal
to use ANY radio in an emergency unless danger to human life.

Quote from Part 97:
§97.403 ??Safety of life and protection of property.

No provision of these rules prevents the use by an amateur station of
any means of radiocommunication at its disposal to provide essential
communication needs in connection with the immediate safety of human
life and immediate protection of property when normal communication
systems are not available.

Andy
KI6SEP

On Wed, Jan 13, 2021 at 12:20 PM Randolph Urick via groups.io
<raurick@...> wrote:

During an emergency, ANY radio can be used for communications.

Randy Urick
N4QWK



-----Original Message-----
From: JARDY DAWSON via groups.io <JARDY72@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wed, Jan 13, 2021 11:24 am
Subject: Re: [Yaesu-FT-60] Opening up the FT 60/MARS Modificatoin

We weren’t talking about part 95 (GMRS, FRS, MURS, CB), only public safety and commercial. I do agree neither ham radios or public safety radios can be used on Part 95. Because Part 95 radios are not programmable, those radios cannot be used on ham or public safety, even during emergencies. I am not aware of any Part 95 radios that can be used for ham. Public safety, yes.

Jardy Dawson WA7JRD

Message sent by....Oh look!! Pretty lights!!


On Jan 13, 2021, at 08:15, Rudi via groups.io <wa2nub@...> wrote:

?
Jardy,
Part 90 is not good for part 95 service! So owning a part 90 approved radio is
still illegal for GMRS and MURS!
As mentioned earlier there radios that are part 95 approved which can be used by amateurs.
Rudi
wa2nub

On Tuesday, January 12, 2021, 5:51:24 PM EST, JARDY DAWSON via groups.io <jardy72@...> wrote:


Wouxun KG-UV6, Anytone 868, 878, etc. look for Part 90 certified. Commercial radios can do ham freqs, ham radio cannot do commercial or public safety.

Jardy Dawson WA7JRD

Message sent by....Oh look!! Pretty lights!!


On Jan 12, 2021, at 13:13, Scott .. via groups.io <n7net@...> wrote:

?Does anyone have an alternative radio to recommend?

73 de Scott/n7net









 

Yes, you are correct. I should have been more specific when speaking about emergencies.

Randy
N4QWK



-----Original Message-----
From: Andy KI6SEP <ki6sep@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wed, Jan 13, 2021 2:24 pm
Subject: Re: [Yaesu-FT-60] Opening up the FT 60/MARS Modificatoin

I believe that usage during an emergency is restricted: only during
emergencies when an imminent danger to a human life.? It is not legal
to use ANY radio in an emergency unless danger to human life.

Quote from Part 97:
§97.403? Safety of life and protection of property.

No provision of these rules prevents the use by an amateur station of
any means of radiocommunication at its disposal to provide essential
communication needs in connection with the immediate safety of human
life and immediate protection of property when normal communication
systems are not available.

Andy
KI6SEP

On Wed, Jan 13, 2021 at 12:20 PM Randolph Urick via groups.io
<raurick=[email protected]> wrote:
>
> During an emergency, ANY radio can be used for communications.
>
> Randy Urick
> N4QWK
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: JARDY DAWSON via groups.io <JARDY72=[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Wed, Jan 13, 2021 11:24 am
> Subject: Re: [Yaesu-FT-60] Opening up the FT 60/MARS Modificatoin
>
> We weren’t talking about part 95 (GMRS, FRS, MURS, CB), only public safety and commercial. I do agree neither ham radios or public safety radios can be used on Part 95. Because Part 95 radios are not programmable, those radios cannot be used on ham or public safety, even during emergencies. I am not aware of any Part 95 radios that can be used for ham. Public safety, yes.
>
> Jardy Dawson WA7JRD
>
> Message sent by....Oh look!! Pretty lights!!
>
>
> On Jan 13, 2021, at 08:15, Rudi via groups.io <wa2nub=[email protected]> wrote:
>
> ?
> Jardy,
> Part 90 is not good for part 95 service! So owning a part 90 approved radio is
> still illegal for GMRS and MURS!
> As mentioned earlier there radios that are part 95 approved which can be used by amateurs.
> Rudi
> wa2nub
>
> On Tuesday, January 12, 2021, 5:51:24 PM EST, JARDY DAWSON via groups.io <jardy72=[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> Wouxun KG-UV6, Anytone 868, 878, etc. look for Part 90 certified. Commercial radios can do ham freqs, ham radio cannot do commercial or public safety.
>
> Jardy Dawson WA7JRD
>
> Message sent by....Oh look!! Pretty lights!!
>
>
> On Jan 12, 2021, at 13:13, Scott .. via groups.io <n7net=[email protected]> wrote:
>
> ?Does anyone have an alternative radio to recommend?
>
> 73 de Scott/n7net
>
>
>