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Disregard, I missed "simplex"


On Jun 18, 2014, at 1:12 PM, "kg7dju kg7dju@... [FT-60]" <FT-60@...> wrote:

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Tone for 146.52 ???


On Jun 18, 2014, at 5:59 AM, "Brian Amos bamos1@... [FT-60]" <FT-60@...> wrote:

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Sorry thats 146.52 for the simplex freq. Dang phone keyboard!

On Jun 18, 2014 6:58 AM, "Brian Amos" <bamos1@...> wrote:

You may want to try either calling with your callsign on simplex 246.52 (there are many people that listen there) or try checking in to the superstition drivetime net at 7am on weekday mornings.? Im not sure where you live exactly but with an ft-60 and a magmount you should be able to hit the superstition repeater. If you are using the radio inside your house with a rubber duck you may not be hitting the repeater even with everything set up properly.? One way to know is listen for a beep on the repeater after you release the ptt. I cant think of a repeater that doesn't have a courtesy tone in the phoenix area. If no beep you aren't getting in. You can probably get into the repeaters on south mountain from anywhere you can see south mountain as long as the antenna is outside. I've hit those with 2watts and the stock rubber duck from casa grande to anthem. The white tanks are another good bunch of repeaters as long as you are north of south mountain and between east mesa and palo verde nuke plant. If you can get into the newbie net on Thursday evening the guys there can help you get everything set up right.

CQ is usually not used on repeaters.? The arrl has a beginners guide that goes through the lingo used on repeaters and that used on am and ssb. The best way to learn is listen. The three most used repeaters in phoenix are probably shaw butte, white tanks, and the superstition repeater which is in the power and brown area near red mountain.

Brian
KF7OVD

On Jun 18, 2014 6:03 AM, "Jack Travis ae8p@... [FT-60]" <FT-60@...> wrote:
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There is no “correct”, but commonly you would say “AE8P listening”. ?Substitute your call for AE8P. ?CQ is more commonly used on HF radio and not 2 meters or 440.


Jack, ae8p





On Jun 18, 2014, at 12:36 AM, Rick Sparber rgsparber.ya@... [FT-60] <FT-60@...> wrote:


Jack,

I first said CQ 3 times and followed it with my call sign. Isn't that correct?

Rick
KG7MQL

On Jun 17, 2014, at 9:34 PM, "Jack Travis?ae8p@...?[FT-60]" <FT-60@...> wrote:

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I don’t believe doing CQ on 2 meters is normal practice. ?Try to ID with your call sign and see if anyone responds.


Jack, ae8p




On Jun 17, 2014, at 11:37 PM, 'Rick - yahoo'?rgsparber.ya@...?[FT-60] <FT-60@...> wrote:


I think I have the frequencies and offsets plus PL set up right for the repeaters that are nearby but heard no traffic. I said a few CQs followed by my call sign in each channel but got nothing. I know I am transmitting because my voice came in on my scanner. That doesn’t mean that I unlocked the repeaters correctly or that my offsets are right. I’ll try again in the morning.

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Any suggestions?

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73,

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Rick

KG7MQL







 

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That is the simplex calling freq. ?there should be no tone.

Jardy Dawson
WA7JRD Ham Radio

Sent by the Underground Railroad,?

On Jun 18, 2014, at 13:12, "kg7dju kg7dju@... [FT-60]" <FT-60@...> wrote:

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Tone for 146.52 ???


On Jun 18, 2014, at 5:59 AM, "Brian Amos bamos1@... [FT-60]" <FT-60@...> wrote:

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Sorry thats 146.52 for the simplex freq. Dang phone keyboard!

On Jun 18, 2014 6:58 AM, "Brian Amos" <bamos1@...> wrote:

You may want to try either calling with your callsign on simplex 246.52 (there are many people that listen there) or try checking in to the superstition drivetime net at 7am on weekday mornings.? Im not sure where you live exactly but with an ft-60 and a magmount you should be able to hit the superstition repeater. If you are using the radio inside your house with a rubber duck you may not be hitting the repeater even with everything set up properly.? One way to know is listen for a beep on the repeater after you release the ptt. I cant think of a repeater that doesn't have a courtesy tone in the phoenix area. If no beep you aren't getting in. You can probably get into the repeaters on south mountain from anywhere you can see south mountain as long as the antenna is outside. I've hit those with 2watts and the stock rubber duck from casa grande to anthem. The white tanks are another good bunch of repeaters as long as you are north of south mountain and between east mesa and palo verde nuke plant. If you can get into the newbie net on Thursday evening the guys there can help you get everything set up right.

CQ is usually not used on repeaters.? The arrl has a beginners guide that goes through the lingo used on repeaters and that used on am and ssb. The best way to learn is listen. The three most used repeaters in phoenix are probably shaw butte, white tanks, and the superstition repeater which is in the power and brown area near red mountain.

Brian
KF7OVD

On Jun 18, 2014 6:03 AM, "Jack Travis ae8p@... [FT-60]" <FT-60@...> wrote:
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There is no “correct”, but commonly you would say “AE8P listening”. ?Substitute your call for AE8P. ?CQ is more commonly used on HF radio and not 2 meters or 440.


Jack, ae8p





On Jun 18, 2014, at 12:36 AM, Rick Sparber rgsparber.ya@... [FT-60] <FT-60@...> wrote:


Jack,

I first said CQ 3 times and followed it with my call sign. Isn't that correct?

Rick
KG7MQL

On Jun 17, 2014, at 9:34 PM, "Jack Travis?ae8p@...?[FT-60]" <FT-60@...> wrote:

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I don’t believe doing CQ on 2 meters is normal practice. ?Try to ID with your call sign and see if anyone responds.


Jack, ae8p




On Jun 17, 2014, at 11:37 PM, 'Rick - yahoo'?rgsparber.ya@...?[FT-60] <FT-60@...> wrote:


I think I have the frequencies and offsets plus PL set up right for the repeaters that are nearby but heard no traffic. I said a few CQs followed by my call sign in each channel but got nothing. I know I am transmitting because my voice came in on my scanner. That doesn’t mean that I unlocked the repeaters correctly or that my offsets are right. I’ll try again in the morning.

?

Any suggestions?

?

73,

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Rick

KG7MQL







 

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246.52 was a mistake. ?Not a ham frequency.

Jardy Dawson
WA7JRD Ham Radio

Sent by the Underground Railroad,?

On Jun 18, 2014, at 9:15, "'Rick - yahoo' rgsparber.ya@... [FT-60]" <FT-60@...> wrote:

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Brian,

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You wrote both 146.52 and 246.52. Which one is it or did you mean for me to try both?

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73,

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Rick

KG7MQL

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From: FT-60@... [mailto:FT-60@...]
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 5:59 AM
To: FT-60@...
Subject: Re: [FT-60] not very exciting start

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Sorry thats 146.52 for the simplex freq. Dang phone keyboard!

On Jun 18, 2014 6:58 AM, "Brian Amos" <bamos1@...> wrote:

You may want to try either calling with your callsign on simplex 246.52 (there are many people that listen there) or try checking in to the superstition drivetime net at 7am on weekday mornings.? Im not sure where you live exactly but with an ft-60 and a magmount you should be able to hit the superstition repeater. If you are using the radio inside your house with a rubber duck you may not be hitting the repeater even with everything set up properly.? One way to know is listen for a beep on the repeater after you release the ptt. I cant think of a repeater that doesn't have a courtesy tone in the phoenix area. If no beep you aren't getting in. You can probably get into the repeaters on south mountain from anywhere you can see south mountain as long as the antenna is outside. I've hit those with 2watts and the stock rubber duck from casa grande to anthem. The white tanks are another good bunch of repeaters as long as you are north of south mountain and between east mesa and palo verde nuke plant. If you can get into the newbie net on Thursday evening the guys there can help you get everything set up right.

CQ is usually not used on repeaters.? The arrl has a beginners guide that goes through the lingo used on repeaters and that used on am and ssb. The best way to learn is listen. The three most used repeaters in phoenix are probably shaw butte, white tanks, and the superstition repeater which is in the power and brown area near red mountain.

Brian
KF7OVD

On Jun 18, 2014 6:03 AM, "Jack Travis ae8p@... [FT-60]" <FT-60@...> wrote:

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There is no “correct”, but commonly you would say “AE8P listening”. ?Substitute your call for AE8P. ?CQ is more commonly used on HF radio and not 2 meters or 440.

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Jack, ae8p

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On Jun 18, 2014, at 12:36 AM, Rick Sparber rgsparber.ya@... [FT-60] <FT-60@...> wrote:

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Jack,

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I first said CQ 3 times and followed it with my call sign. Isn't that correct?

Rick

KG7MQL


On Jun 17, 2014, at 9:34 PM, "Jack Travis?ae8p@...?[FT-60]" <FT-60@...> wrote:

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I don’t believe doing CQ on 2 meters is normal practice. ?Try to ID with your call sign and see if anyone responds.

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Jack, ae8p

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On Jun 17, 2014, at 11:37 PM, 'Rick - yahoo'?rgsparber.ya@...?[FT-60] <FT-60@...> wrote:

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I think I have the frequencies and offsets plus PL set up right for the repeaters that are nearby but heard no traffic. I said a few CQs followed by my call sign in each channel but got nothing. I know I am transmitting because my voice came in on my scanner. That doesn’t mean that I unlocked the repeaters correctly or that my offsets are right. I’ll try again in the morning.

?

Any suggestions?

?

73,

?

Rick

KG7MQL

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CQ was originally started on HF using morse code. ?Short for Seek You (anybody there?). Please don't use it on 2m/440. ?Kind of like using the Q codes. ?Not meant for uhf/vhf.

Jardy Dawson
WA7JRD Ham Radio

Sent by the Underground Railroad,?

On Jun 18, 2014, at 10:54, "'Rick - yahoo' rgsparber.ya@... [FT-60]" <FT-60@...> wrote:

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That is a great analogy.

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73,

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Rick

KG7MQL

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From: FT-60@... [mailto:FT-60@...]
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 9:40 AM
To: FT-60@...
Subject: [FT-60] Re: not very exciting start

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I travel to LA and San Diego for business and have noticed the same thing.? Lots of repeaters and no one using them.

As others have said here, don't call CQ on 2 Meters, just throw out your call sign.? If you hear the repeater tone or ID, you've probably hit it, although your signal may not be intelligible if you're running low power off the rubber antenna or are far away from the repeater.? Some repeaters are alligators...all mouth but no ears.


 

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I have mended my ways ;-)

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“KG7MQL listening”

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73,

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Rick

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From: FT-60@... [mailto:FT-60@...]
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 4:59 AM
To: FT-60@...
Subject: Re: [FT-60] not very exciting start

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It's not common to say "CQ" on repeaters, just say your call sign and that you are listening, like Larry said.? I simply say, "W5ETA, listening", it's also common to say, "W5ETA, mobile" (when you are in your vehicle).? Either way, that's how it's done on FM repeaters, at least in my neck of the woods.

Welcome to the hobby and congrats!

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Gary

W5ETA

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On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 11:38 PM, 'L. Floyd' sonomadiver@... [FT-60] <FT-60@...> wrote:

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It's funny how CQ is common everywhere else, but not on 2m. ?I typically do something like "This is W5EIT listening on six-four", where "six-four" is the repeater output frequency (as in 04/64) or the simplex frequency I'm on.

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- Larry

W5EIT

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On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 9:04 AM, Jack Travis ae8p@... [FT-60] <FT-60@...> wrote:

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I don’t believe doing CQ on 2 meters is normal practice. ?Try to ID with your call sign and see if anyone responds.

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Jack, ae8p

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On Jun 17, 2014, at 11:37 PM, 'Rick - yahoo' rgsparber.ya@... [FT-60] <FT-60@...> wrote:

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I think I have the frequencies and offsets plus PL set up right for the repeaters that are nearby but heard no traffic. I said a few CQs followed by my call sign in each channel but got nothing. I know I am transmitting because my voice came in on my scanner. That doesn’t mean that I unlocked the repeaters correctly or that my offsets are right. I’ll try again in the morning.

?

Any suggestions?

?

73,

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Rick

KG7MQL

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I figured that out the first time I hit the PTT key and the display said “error”.

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73,

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Rick

KG7MQL

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From: FT-60@... [mailto:FT-60@...]
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 6:27 PM
To: FT-60@...
Subject: Re: [FT-60] not very exciting start

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246.52 was a mistake. ?Not a ham frequency.

Jardy Dawson

WA7JRD Ham Radio

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Sent by the Underground Railroad,?


On Jun 18, 2014, at 9:15, "'Rick - yahoo' rgsparber.ya@... [FT-60]" <FT-60@...> wrote:

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Brian,

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You wrote both 146.52 and 246.52. Which one is it or did you mean for me to try both?

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73,

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Rick

KG7MQL

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From: FT-60@... [mailto:FT-60@...]
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 5:59 AM
To: FT-60@...
Subject: Re: [FT-60] not very exciting start

?

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Sorry thats 146.52 for the simplex freq. Dang phone keyboard!

On Jun 18, 2014 6:58 AM, "Brian Amos" <bamos1@...> wrote:

You may want to try either calling with your callsign on simplex 246.52 (there are many people that listen there) or try checking in to the superstition drivetime net at 7am on weekday mornings.? Im not sure where you live exactly but with an ft-60 and a magmount you should be able to hit the superstition repeater. If you are using the radio inside your house with a rubber duck you may not be hitting the repeater even with everything set up properly.? One way to know is listen for a beep on the repeater after you release the ptt. I cant think of a repeater that doesn't have a courtesy tone in the phoenix area. If no beep you aren't getting in. You can probably get into the repeaters on south mountain from anywhere you can see south mountain as long as the antenna is outside. I've hit those with 2watts and the stock rubber duck from casa grande to anthem. The white tanks are another good bunch of repeaters as long as you are north of south mountain and between east mesa and palo verde nuke plant. If you can get into the newbie net on Thursday evening the guys there can help you get everything set up right.

CQ is usually not used on repeaters.? The arrl has a beginners guide that goes through the lingo used on repeaters and that used on am and ssb. The best way to learn is listen. The three most used repeaters in phoenix are probably shaw butte, white tanks, and the superstition repeater which is in the power and brown area near red mountain.

Brian
KF7OVD

On Jun 18, 2014 6:03 AM, "Jack Travis ae8p@... [FT-60]" <FT-60@...> wrote:

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There is no “correct”, but commonly you would say “AE8P listening”. ?Substitute your call for AE8P. ?CQ is more commonly used on HF radio and not 2 meters or 440.

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Jack, ae8p

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On Jun 18, 2014, at 12:36 AM, Rick Sparber rgsparber.ya@... [FT-60] <FT-60@...> wrote:

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Jack,

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I first said CQ 3 times and followed it with my call sign. Isn't that correct?

Rick

KG7MQL


On Jun 17, 2014, at 9:34 PM, "Jack Travis?ae8p@...?[FT-60]" <FT-60@...> wrote:

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I don’t believe doing CQ on 2 meters is normal practice. ?Try to ID with your call sign and see if anyone responds.

?

Jack, ae8p

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On Jun 17, 2014, at 11:37 PM, 'Rick - yahoo'?rgsparber.ya@...?[FT-60] <FT-60@...> wrote:

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I think I have the frequencies and offsets plus PL set up right for the repeaters that are nearby but heard no traffic. I said a few CQs followed by my call sign in each channel but got nothing. I know I am transmitting because my voice came in on my scanner. That doesn’t mean that I unlocked the repeaters correctly or that my offsets are right. I’ll try again in the morning.

?

Any suggestions?

?

73,

?

Rick

KG7MQL

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No Q codes on 2 meter and 70 cm?

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Rick

KG7MQL

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From: FT-60@... [mailto:FT-60@...]
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 6:30 PM
To: FT-60@...
Subject: Re: [FT-60] Re: not very exciting start

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CQ was originally started on HF using morse code. ?Short for Seek You (anybody there?). Please don't use it on 2m/440. ?Kind of like using the Q codes. ?Not meant for uhf/vhf.

Jardy Dawson

WA7JRD Ham Radio

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Sent by the Underground Railroad,?


On Jun 18, 2014, at 10:54, "'Rick - yahoo' rgsparber.ya@... [FT-60]" <FT-60@...> wrote:

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That is a great analogy.

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73,

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Rick

KG7MQL

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From: FT-60@... [mailto:FT-60@...]
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 9:40 AM
To: FT-60@...
Subject: [FT-60] Re: not very exciting start

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I travel to LA and San Diego for business and have noticed the same thing.? Lots of repeaters and no one using them.

As others have said here, don't call CQ on 2 Meters, just throw out your call sign.? If you hear the repeater tone or ID, you've probably hit it, although your signal may not be intelligible if you're running low power off the rubber antenna or are far away from the repeater.? Some repeaters are alligators...all mouth but no ears.


L. Floyd
 

I'm not familiar with the 440 lingo, but on 2m "04-64" typically means the repeater you're going through listens on 144.04 and transmits on 144.64. ?Conversely, you are transmitting on 144.04 and listening on 144.64, thus the phrase "Listening on six four."


On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 8:25 PM, 'Rick - yahoo' rgsparber.ya@... [FT-60] <FT-60@...> wrote:
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Larry,

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I did hear someone say “listening” and another person said “monitoring”. I was unable to reach either one of them.

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I’m confused by the nomenclature “04/64”. Say I had a repeater with 442.125? +5. How would you say that?

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73

Rick

KG7MQL

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From: FT-60@... [mailto:FT-60@...]
Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2014 9:38 PM


To: FT-60@...
Subject: Re: [FT-60] not very exciting start

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It's funny how CQ is common everywhere else, but not on 2m. ?I typically do something like "This is W5EIT listening on six-four", where "six-four" is the repeater output frequency (as in 04/64) or the simplex frequency I'm on.

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- Larry

W5EIT



 

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Meant for HF Morse Code only, one of the few, if only, times you can use codes. ?Easier to use QTH? ?as opposed to what is your current location? ?On 2m/440 voice, just use plain English to ask what you want. ?Special Lingo is best kept for US CB. ?Is that a big 10-4 good buddy?

Jardy Dawson
WA7JRD Ham Radio

Sent by the Underground Railroad,?

On Jun 18, 2014, at 18:37, "'Rick - yahoo' rgsparber.ya@... [FT-60]" <FT-60@...> wrote:

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No Q codes on 2 meter and 70 cm?

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Rick

KG7MQL

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From: FT-60@... [mailto:FT-60@...]
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 6:30 PM
To: FT-60@...
Subject: Re: [FT-60] Re: not very exciting start

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CQ was originally started on HF using morse code. ?Short for Seek You (anybody there?). Please don't use it on 2m/440. ?Kind of like using the Q codes. ?Not meant for uhf/vhf.

Jardy Dawson

WA7JRD Ham Radio

?

Sent by the Underground Railroad,?


On Jun 18, 2014, at 10:54, "'Rick - yahoo' rgsparber.ya@... [FT-60]" <FT-60@...> wrote:

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That is a great analogy.

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73,

?

Rick

KG7MQL

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From: FT-60@... [mailto:FT-60@...]
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 9:40 AM
To: FT-60@...
Subject: [FT-60] Re: not very exciting start

?

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I travel to LA and San Diego for business and have noticed the same thing.? Lots of repeaters and no one using them.

As others have said here, don't call CQ on 2 Meters, just throw out your call sign.? If you hear the repeater tone or ID, you've probably hit it, although your signal may not be intelligible if you're running low power off the rubber antenna or are far away from the repeater.? Some repeaters are alligators...all mouth but no ears.


 

There are not many repeaters with constant traffic on them.

Many have one or more scheduled nets, either for the sponsoring club or for some other group each week or each month at a set time. I have sources for this for New England, not sure about your area. Check with local clubs who have repeaters, usually on a website or a newsletter.

Also, repeaters are more likely to have traffic during commuting hours, when hams work mobile while stuck in the other sort of traffic.

Gary
N1ZCE


At 11:37 AM 6/18/2014, you wrote:

I figured out my mistake. Although I set up to generate a tone and did set the tone's frequency correctly, I did not save those settings correctly. That is all straightened out now (I think). But still no responses. However, I now do see the frequency shift the correct amount when I key in and I think I hear the tone back from the repeater. Just need someone to talk to.

73,

Rick

KG7MQL

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Needham, MA
Please reply to: n1zce@... OR n1zce@...


 

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Never heard that one (“all mouth and no ears”), but it works.

What an “Alligator” is, in terms of repeaters, are those repeaters with “time-out” timers that will cut you off if you’re too long-winded. Usually about 3 minutes, but can be as short as 30 seconds on some repeaters.

You’ll find out that this happened when you unkey your mic and someone tells you you “got bit by the alligator”, and that they didn’t hear most of whatever it was you said.?


On Jun 18, 2014, at 10:54 AM, 'Rick - yahoo' rgsparber.ya@... [FT-60] <FT-60@...> wrote:

I travel to LA and San Diego for business and have noticed the same thing.? Lots of repeaters and no one using them.


As others have said here, don't call CQ on 2 Meters, just throw out your call sign.? If you hear the repeater tone or ID, you've probably hit it, although your signal may not be intelligible if you're running low power off the rubber antenna or are far away from the repeater.? Some repeaters are alligators...all mouth but no ears.



 

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This does make sense but is certainly not second nature to me yet.

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73,

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Rick

KG7MQL

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From: FT-60@... [mailto:FT-60@...]
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 6:42 PM
To: FT-60@...
Subject: Re: [FT-60] not very exciting start

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I'm not familiar with the 440 lingo, but on 2m "04-64" typically means the repeater you're going through listens on 144.04 and transmits on 144.64. ?Conversely, you are transmitting on 144.04 and listening on 144.64, thus the phrase "Listening on six four."

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On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 8:25 PM, 'Rick - yahoo' rgsparber.ya@... [FT-60] <FT-60@...> wrote:

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Larry,

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I did hear someone say “listening” and another person said “monitoring”. I was unable to reach either one of them.

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I’m confused by the nomenclature “04/64”. Say I had a repeater with 442.125? +5. How would you say that?

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?

73

Rick

KG7MQL

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From: FT-60@... [mailto:FT-60@...]
Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2014 9:38 PM


To: FT-60@...
Subject: Re: [FT-60] not very exciting start

?

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It's funny how CQ is common everywhere else, but not on 2m. ?I typically do something like "This is W5EIT listening on six-four", where "six-four" is the repeater output frequency (as in 04/64) or the simplex frequency I'm on.

?

- Larry

W5EIT

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As a newbie, I do appreciate being able to use plain English.

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73,

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Rick

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From: FT-60@... [mailto:FT-60@...]
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 6:51 PM
To: FT-60@...
Subject: Re: [FT-60] Re: not very exciting start

?

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Meant for HF Morse Code only, one of the few, if only, times you can use codes. ?Easier to use QTH? ?as opposed to what is your current location? ?On 2m/440 voice, just use plain English to ask what you want. ?Special Lingo is best kept for US CB. ?Is that a big 10-4 good buddy?

Jardy Dawson

WA7JRD Ham Radio

?

Sent by the Underground Railroad,?


On Jun 18, 2014, at 18:37, "'Rick - yahoo' rgsparber.ya@... [FT-60]" <FT-60@...> wrote:

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No Q codes on 2 meter and 70 cm?

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Rick

KG7MQL

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From: FT-60@... [mailto:FT-60@...]
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 6:30 PM
To: FT-60@...
Subject: Re: [FT-60] Re: not very exciting start

?

?

CQ was originally started on HF using morse code. ?Short for Seek You (anybody there?). Please don't use it on 2m/440. ?Kind of like using the Q codes. ?Not meant for uhf/vhf.

Jardy Dawson

WA7JRD Ham Radio

?

Sent by the Underground Railroad,?


On Jun 18, 2014, at 10:54, "'Rick - yahoo' rgsparber.ya@... [FT-60]" <FT-60@...> wrote:

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That is a great analogy.

?

73,

?

Rick

KG7MQL

?

From: FT-60@... [mailto:FT-60@...]
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 9:40 AM
To: FT-60@...
Subject: [FT-60] Re: not very exciting start

?

?

I travel to LA and San Diego for business and have noticed the same thing.? Lots of repeaters and no one using them.

As others have said here, don't call CQ on 2 Meters, just throw out your call sign.? If you hear the repeater tone or ID, you've probably hit it, although your signal may not be intelligible if you're running low power off the rubber antenna or are far away from the repeater.? Some repeaters are alligators...all mouth but no ears.


 

Rick

There is no offset on simplex frequencies. The ft-60 should know what offset is by default. 146.52 has no offset or pl tone.

Brian
KF7OVD

On Jun 18, 2014 9:39 PM, "'Rick - yahoo' rgsparber.ya@... [FT-60]" <FT-60@...> wrote:

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As a newbie, I do appreciate being able to use plain English.

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73,

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Rick

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From: FT-60@... [mailto:FT-60@...]
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 6:51 PM
To: FT-60@...
Subject: Re: [FT-60] Re: not very exciting start

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Meant for HF Morse Code only, one of the few, if only, times you can use codes. ?Easier to use QTH? ?as opposed to what is your current location? ?On 2m/440 voice, just use plain English to ask what you want. ?Special Lingo is best kept for US CB. ?Is that a big 10-4 good buddy?

Jardy Dawson

WA7JRD Ham Radio

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Sent by the Underground Railroad,?


On Jun 18, 2014, at 18:37, "'Rick - yahoo' rgsparber.ya@... [FT-60]" <FT-60@...> wrote:

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No Q codes on 2 meter and 70 cm?

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Rick

KG7MQL

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From: FT-60@... [mailto:FT-60@...]
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 6:30 PM
To: FT-60@...
Subject: Re: [FT-60] Re: not very exciting start

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CQ was originally started on HF using morse code. ?Short for Seek You (anybody there?). Please don't use it on 2m/440. ?Kind of like using the Q codes. ?Not meant for uhf/vhf.

Jardy Dawson

WA7JRD Ham Radio

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Sent by the Underground Railroad,?


On Jun 18, 2014, at 10:54, "'Rick - yahoo' rgsparber.ya@... [FT-60]" <FT-60@...> wrote:

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That is a great analogy.

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73,

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Rick

KG7MQL

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From: FT-60@... [mailto:FT-60@...]
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 9:40 AM
To: FT-60@...
Subject: [FT-60] Re: not very exciting start

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I travel to LA and San Diego for business and have noticed the same thing.? Lots of repeaters and no one using them.

As others have said here, don't call CQ on 2 Meters, just throw out your call sign.? If you hear the repeater tone or ID, you've probably hit it, although your signal may not be intelligible if you're running low power off the rubber antenna or are far away from the repeater.? Some repeaters are alligators...all mouth but no ears.


 

Most newbies won't know what the Q codes are anyway.? I think the oldies that insist on using them might be trying to impress the newbies with how good a ham they are, cuz they know 'the lingo'.? If you plan on doing any Emergency Comms, the use of plain English is mandatory.? Law Enforcement and?Fire Dept. personnel are going to think you are crazy if you use lingo.? 10 codes are not used anymore, as?each agency usually has their own, and it not the same as adjacent agencies.? The only 2 that seem to be the same is a 10-100 and 10-200.? If you guess what those mean, you would probably be correct.
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If you want to know someone's name, don't ask "What's your Handle".? My handles are around my ample waist and has nothing to do with my name.? Alot of people, when they do use Q codes, gets at least one wrong.? When they ask "What's your QTH?", they think they are asking "Where do you live?"? QTH means what is your current location.? When someone says they are just about at their QTH, how can that be when everyone is always at their QTH (current location)?? It is just as easy, if not easier, and less confusing, to just say what you mean in English.? Don't try to impress anyone by sounding like a lid.?
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Jardy Dawson
WA7JRD Ham Radio

Sent by hurling dead pigeons over the wall by trebuche.

From: "'Rick - yahoo' rgsparber.ya@... [FT-60]" <FT-60@...>
To: FT-60@...
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 8:02 PM
Subject: RE: [FT-60] Re: not very exciting start

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As a newbie, I do appreciate being able to use plain English.
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73,
?
Rick
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From: FT-60@... [mailto:FT-60@...]
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 6:51 PM
To: FT-60@...
Subject: Re: [FT-60] Re: not very exciting start
?
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Meant for HF Morse Code only, one of the few, if only, times you can use codes. ?Easier to use QTH? ?as opposed to what is your current location? ?On 2m/440 voice, just use plain English to ask what you want. ?Special Lingo is best kept for US CB. ?Is that a big 10-4 good buddy?
Jardy Dawson
WA7JRD Ham Radio
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Sent by the Underground Railroad,?

On Jun 18, 2014, at 18:37, "'Rick - yahoo' rgsparber.ya@... [FT-60]" <FT-60@...> wrote:
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No Q codes on 2 meter and 70 cm?
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Rick
KG7MQL
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From: FT-60@... [mailto:FT-60@...]
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 6:30 PM
To: FT-60@...
Subject: Re: [FT-60] Re: not very exciting start
?
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CQ was originally started on HF using morse code. ?Short for Seek You (anybody there?). Please don't use it on 2m/440. ?Kind of like using the Q codes. ?Not meant for uhf/vhf.
Jardy Dawson
WA7JRD Ham Radio
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Sent by the Underground Railroad,?

On Jun 18, 2014, at 10:54, "'Rick - yahoo' rgsparber.ya@... [FT-60]" <FT-60@...> wrote:
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That is a great analogy.
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73,
?
Rick
KG7MQL
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From: FT-60@... [mailto:FT-60@...]
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 9:40 AM
To: FT-60@...
Subject: [FT-60] Re: not very exciting start
?
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I travel to LA and San Diego for business and have noticed the same thing.? Lots of repeaters and no one using them.

As others have said here, don't call CQ on 2 Meters, just throw out your call sign.? If you hear the repeater tone or ID, you've probably hit it, although your signal may not be intelligible if you're running low power off the rubber antenna or are far away from the repeater.? Some repeaters are alligators...all mouth but no ears.



Jim K5JG
 

Larry,

That should be 146.04/146.64, not 144.04/144.64.

73, Jim K5JG

'L. Floyd' sonomadiver@... [FT-60] wrote:

I'm not familiar with the 440 lingo, but on 2m "04-64" typically means the repeater you're going through listens on 144.04 and transmits on 144.64. Conversely, you are transmitting on 144.04 and listening on 144.64, thus the phrase "Listening on six four."
On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 8:25 PM, 'Rick - yahoo' rgsparber.ya@... <mailto:rgsparber.ya@...> [FT-60] <FT-60@... <mailto:FT-60@...>> wrote:
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Larry,____
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I did hear someone say "listening" and another person said
"monitoring". I was unable to reach either one of them.____
__ __
I'm confused by the nomenclature "04/64". Say I had a repeater with
442.125 +5. How would you say that?____
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73____
Rick____
KG7MQL____
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*From:* FT-60@... <mailto:FT-60@...>
[mailto:FT-60@... <mailto:FT-60@...>]
*Sent:* Tuesday, June 17, 2014 9:38 PM
*To:* FT-60@... <mailto:FT-60@...>
*Subject:* Re: [FT-60] not very exciting start____
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____
It's funny how CQ is common everywhere else, but not on 2m. I
typically do something like "This is W5EIT listening on six-four",
where "six-four" is the repeater output frequency (as in 04/64) or
the simplex frequency I'm on.____
__ __
- Larry____
W5EIT____


 

I hear one gentleman regularly say 'CQ' most mornings when he comes in on our daily drive to work ragchew. ?He has been a ham for as long as I have been alive (50+ years). ?I really don't see anything wrong with it, I just don't hear it much.

Jim
W0JEK


L. Floyd
 

Yipes! ?No kidding! ?Thanks for catching that! ?I must be getting too much of the Kabul sunshine on my brain.

- Larry
W5EIT


On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 4:56 PM, Jim K5JG k5jg@... [FT-60] <FT-60@...> wrote:

Larry,

That should be 146.04/146.64, not 144.04/144.64.

73, Jim K5JG

'L. Floyd' sonomadiver@... [FT-60] wrote:
>
>
> I'm not familiar with the 440 lingo, but on 2m "04-64" typically means
> the repeater you're going through listens on 144.04 and transmits on
> 144.64. ?Conversely, you are transmitting on 144.04 and listening on
> 144.64, thus the phrase "Listening on six four."
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 8:25 PM, 'Rick - yahoo' rgsparber.ya@...
> rgsparber.ya@...> [FT-60] <FT-60@...
> FT-60@...>> wrote:
>
> ? ? __
>
>
> ? ? Larry,____
>
> ? ? __ __
>
> ? ? I did hear someone say "listening" and another person said
> ? ? "monitoring". I was unable to reach either one of them.____
>
> ? ? __ __
>
> ? ? I'm confused by the nomenclature "04/64". Say I had a repeater with
> ? ? 442.125 ?+5. How would you say that?____
>
> ? ? __ __
>
> ? ? __ __
>
> ? ? 73____
>
> ? ? Rick____
>
> ? ? KG7MQL____
>
> ? ? __ __
>
> ? ? *From:* FT-60@... FT-60@...>
> ? ? [mailto:FT-60@... FT-60@...>]
> ? ? *Sent:* Tuesday, June 17, 2014 9:38 PM
>
>
> ? ? *To:* FT-60@... FT-60@...>
> ? ? *Subject:* Re: [FT-60] not very exciting start____
>
> ? ? __ __
>
> ? ? ? ____
>
> ? ? It's funny how CQ is common everywhere else, but not on 2m. ?I
> ? ? typically do something like "This is W5EIT listening on six-four",
> ? ? where "six-four" is the repeater output frequency (as in 04/64) or
> ? ? the simplex frequency I'm on.____
>
> ? ? __ __
>
> ? ? - Larry____
>
> ? ? W5EIT____
>
>
>
>
>


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Some of the old timers have talked me into some VHF UHF contesting CQ is acceptable in making those contacts.

On Jun 19, 2014 5:49 AM, "w0jek@... [FT-60]" <FT-60@...> wrote:

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I hear one gentleman regularly say 'CQ' most mornings when he comes in on our daily drive to work ragchew. ?He has been a ham for as long as I have been alive (50+ years). ?I really don't see anything wrong with it, I just don't hear it much.


Jim
W0JEK


 

Again, it's not technically "wrong" or against the rules, just not accepted repeater "etiquette".