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开云体育I think I have the frequencies and offsets plus PL set up right for the repeaters that are nearby but heard no traffic. I said a few CQs followed by my call sign in each channel but got nothing. I know I am transmitting because my voice came in on my scanner. That doesn’t mean that I unlocked the repeaters correctly or that my offsets are right. I’ll try again in the morning. ? Any suggestions? ? 73, ? Rick KG7MQL |
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I’ve noticed the same thing in MY area (Los Angeles), which USED TO BE really busy. But, over the past 20 years, with the proliferation of cell phones, texting and Facebook, etc., it seems that there’s not as much chatter on the radio as there used to be.
One formerly popular repeater here, which has coverage from slightly north of Los Angeles all the way down to San Diego, remains quiet nearly all day now. When I first got my license, in 1986, this repeater was so busy you couldn’t break in no matter how mars you tried. It was constant chatter 24/7 on that machine. I’ll spin the dial and go through all my 2m and 440 repeaters I’ve got programmed in my radio and often won’t hear a darned thing on any one of them. These are the times. On the plus side, it’s almost like having a private repeater whenever you want to have one since nobody else seems to be on it anymore. Mark KB6KGX |
开云体育I don’t believe doing CQ on 2 meters is normal practice. ?Try to ID with your call sign and see if anyone responds.
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On Jun 17, 2014, at 11:37 PM, 'Rick - yahoo' rgsparber.ya@... [FT-60] <FT-60@...> wrote: I think I have the frequencies and offsets plus PL set up right for the repeaters that are nearby but heard no traffic. I said a few CQs followed by my call sign in each channel but got nothing. I know I am transmitting because my voice came in on my scanner. That doesn’t mean that I unlocked the repeaters correctly or that my offsets are right. I’ll try again in the morning. ? Any suggestions? ? 73, ? Rick KG7MQL |
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On Jun 17, 2014, at 9:34 PM, "Jack Travis ae8p@... [FT-60]" <FT-60@...> wrote:
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It's funny how CQ is common everywhere else, but not on 2m. ?I typically do something like "This is W5EIT listening on six-four", where "six-four" is the repeater output frequency (as in 04/64) or the simplex frequency I'm on. - Larry W5EIT On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 9:04 AM, Jack Travis ae8p@... [FT-60] <FT-60@...> wrote:
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Rick, yes, that's perfect.? It's just that you don't hear CQ on 2m very often.? I'm not sure how or when or why it evolved that way. ?
Maybe it's time to revive CQ on 2m! ? - Larry W5EIT On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 9:06 AM, Rick Sparber rgsparber.ya@... [FT-60] <FT-60@...> wrote:
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It's not common to say "CQ" on repeaters, just say your call sign and that you are listening, like Larry said.? I simply say, "W5ETA, listening", it's also common to say, "W5ETA, mobile" (when you are in your vehicle).? Either way, that's how it's done on FM repeaters, at least in my neck of the woods. Welcome to the hobby and congrats! On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 11:38 PM, 'L. Floyd' sonomadiver@... [FT-60] <FT-60@...> wrote:
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开云体育There is no “correct”, but commonly you would say “AE8P listening”. ?Substitute your call for AE8P. ?CQ is more commonly used on HF radio and not 2 meters or 440.
Jack, ae8p
On Jun 18, 2014, at 12:36 AM, Rick Sparber rgsparber.ya@... [FT-60] <FT-60@...> wrote: Jack, I first said CQ 3 times and followed it with my call sign. Isn't that correct? Rick KG7MQL
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开云体育There is no “correct”, but commonly you would say “AE8P listening”. ?Substitute your call for AE8P. ?CQ is more commonly used on HF radio and not 2 meters or 440.
Jack, ae8p
On Jun 18, 2014, at 12:36 AM, Rick Sparber rgsparber.ya@... [FT-60] <FT-60@...> wrote: Jack, I first said CQ 3 times and followed it with my call sign. Isn't that correct? Rick KG7MQL
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You may want to try either calling with your callsign on simplex 246.52 (there are many people that listen there) or try checking in to the superstition drivetime net at 7am on weekday mornings.? Im not sure where you live exactly but with an ft-60 and a magmount you should be able to hit the superstition repeater. If you are using the radio inside your house with a rubber duck you may not be hitting the repeater even with everything set up properly.? One way to know is listen for a beep on the repeater after you release the ptt. I cant think of a repeater that doesn't have a courtesy tone in the phoenix area. If no beep you aren't getting in. You can probably get into the repeaters on south mountain from anywhere you can see south mountain as long as the antenna is outside. I've hit those with 2watts and the stock rubber duck from casa grande to anthem. The white tanks are another good bunch of repeaters as long as you are north of south mountain and between east mesa and palo verde nuke plant. If you can get into the newbie net on Thursday evening the guys there can help you get everything set up right. CQ is usually not used on repeaters.? The arrl has a beginners guide that goes through the lingo used on repeaters and that used on am and ssb. The best way to learn is listen. The three most used repeaters in phoenix are probably shaw butte, white tanks, and the superstition repeater which is in the power and brown area near red mountain. Brian
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Sorry thats 146.52 for the simplex freq. Dang phone keyboard! On Jun 18, 2014 6:58 AM, "Brian Amos" <bamos1@...> wrote:
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开云体育Correct. Though not technically wrong, calling "CQ" is not generally done when using repeaters.? On Jun 18, 2014, at 5:03 AM, "Jack Travis ae8p@... [FT-60]" <FT-60@...> wrote:
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When I took my test, all of the VEs were rather old. But those taking the tests were all in their 30s to 60s. So there is hope that the "no code" change is bringing in a new crop of hams. Rick -----Original Message-----
From: FT-60@... [mailto:FT-60@...] Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2014 9:05 PM To: FT-60@... Subject: [FT-60] Re: not very exciting start I've noticed the same thing in MY area (Los Angeles), which USED TO BE really busy. But, over the past 20 years, with the proliferation of cell phones, texting and Facebook, etc., it seems that there's not as much chatter on the radio as there used to be. One formerly popular repeater here, which has coverage from slightly north of Los Angeles all the way down to San Diego, remains quiet nearly all day now. When I first got my license, in 1986, this repeater was so busy you couldn't break in no matter how mars you tried. It was constant chatter 24/7 on that machine. I'll spin the dial and go through all my 2m and 440 repeaters I've got programmed in my radio and often won't hear a darned thing on any one of them. These are the times. On the plus side, it's almost like having a private repeater whenever you want to have one since nobody else seems to be on it anymore. Mark KB6KGX ------------------------------------ ------------------------------------ ------------------------------------ Yahoo Groups Links |
开云体育I figured out my mistake. Although I set up to generate a tone and did set the tone’s frequency correctly, I did not save those settings correctly. That is all straightened out now (I think). But still no responses. However, I now do see the frequency shift the correct amount when I key in and I think I hear the tone back from the repeater. Just need someone to talk to. ? 73, ? Rick KG7MQL ? From: FT-60@... [mailto:FT-60@...]
Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2014 9:34 PM To: FT-60@... Subject: Re: [FT-60] not very exciting start ? ? I don’t believe doing CQ on 2 meters is normal practice. ?Try to ID with your call sign and see if anyone responds. ? Jack, ae8p ? ? ? ? On Jun 17, 2014, at 11:37 PM, 'Rick - yahoo' rgsparber.ya@... [FT-60] <FT-60@...> wrote: ? ? I think I have the frequencies and offsets plus PL set up right for the repeaters that are nearby but heard no traffic. I said a few CQs followed by my call sign in each channel but got nothing. I know I am transmitting because my voice came in on my scanner. That doesn’t mean that I unlocked the repeaters correctly or that my offsets are right. I’ll try again in the morning. ? Any suggestions? ? 73, ? Rick KG7MQL ? ? |
开云体育Larry, ? I did hear someone say “listening” and another person said “monitoring”. I was unable to reach either one of them. ? I’m confused by the nomenclature “04/64”. Say I had a repeater with 442.125? +5. How would you say that? ? ? 73 Rick KG7MQL ? From: FT-60@... [mailto:FT-60@...]
Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2014 9:38 PM To: FT-60@... Subject: Re: [FT-60] not very exciting start ? ? It's funny how CQ is common everywhere else, but not on 2m. ?I typically do something like "This is W5EIT listening on six-four", where "six-four" is the repeater output frequency (as in 04/64) or the simplex frequency I'm on. ? - Larry W5EIT |
开云体育Brian, ? I’m confused about operating simplex. I go to VFO and enter a frequency. It shows a “+” and “T” on the display. And consistent with the “+”, my transmit frequency does shift upward when I key in. Is the proper way to set this up to first set a frequency with the VFO, set the offset to off and disable tone. Then store it in memory? ? 73 Rick KG7MQL ? From: FT-60@... [mailto:FT-60@...]
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 5:58 AM To: FT-60@... Subject: Re: [FT-60] not very exciting start ? ? You may want to try either calling with your callsign on simplex 246.52 (there are many people that listen there) or try checking in to the superstition drivetime net at 7am on weekday mornings.? Im not sure where you live exactly but with an ft-60 and a magmount you should be able to hit the superstition repeater. If you are using the radio inside your house with a rubber duck you may not be hitting the repeater even with everything set up properly.? One way to know is listen for a beep on the repeater after you release the ptt. I cant think of a repeater that doesn't have a courtesy tone in the phoenix area. If no beep you aren't getting in. You can probably get into the repeaters on south mountain from anywhere you can see south mountain as long as the antenna is outside. I've hit those with 2watts and the stock rubber duck from casa grande to anthem. The white tanks are another good bunch of repeaters as long as you are north of south mountain and between east mesa and palo verde nuke plant. If you can get into the newbie net on Thursday evening the guys there can help you get everything set up right. CQ is usually not used on repeaters.? The arrl has a beginners guide that goes through the lingo used on repeaters and that used on am and ssb. The best way to learn is listen. The three most used repeaters in phoenix are probably shaw butte, white tanks, and the superstition repeater which is in the power and brown area near red mountain. Brian On Jun 18, 2014 6:03 AM, "Jack Travis ae8p@... [FT-60]" <FT-60@...> wrote: ? There is no “correct”, but commonly you would say “AE8P listening”. ?Substitute your call for AE8P. ?CQ is more commonly used on HF radio and not 2 meters or 440. ? Jack, ae8p ? ? ? ? ? On Jun 18, 2014, at 12:36 AM, Rick Sparber rgsparber.ya@... [FT-60] <FT-60@...> wrote: ? ? Jack, ? I first said CQ 3 times and followed it with my call sign. Isn't that correct? KG7MQL
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开云体育Brian, ? You wrote both 146.52 and 246.52. Which one is it or did you mean for me to try both? ? 73, ? Rick KG7MQL ? From: FT-60@... [mailto:FT-60@...]
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 5:59 AM To: FT-60@... Subject: Re: [FT-60] not very exciting start ? ? Sorry thats 146.52 for the simplex freq. Dang phone keyboard! On Jun 18, 2014 6:58 AM, "Brian Amos" <bamos1@...> wrote: You may want to try either calling with your callsign on simplex 246.52 (there are many people that listen there) or try checking in to the superstition drivetime net at 7am on weekday mornings.? Im not sure where you live exactly but with an ft-60 and a magmount you should be able to hit the superstition repeater. If you are using the radio inside your house with a rubber duck you may not be hitting the repeater even with everything set up properly.? One way to know is listen for a beep on the repeater after you release the ptt. I cant think of a repeater that doesn't have a courtesy tone in the phoenix area. If no beep you aren't getting in. You can probably get into the repeaters on south mountain from anywhere you can see south mountain as long as the antenna is outside. I've hit those with 2watts and the stock rubber duck from casa grande to anthem. The white tanks are another good bunch of repeaters as long as you are north of south mountain and between east mesa and palo verde nuke plant. If you can get into the newbie net on Thursday evening the guys there can help you get everything set up right. CQ is usually not used on repeaters.? The arrl has a beginners guide that goes through the lingo used on repeaters and that used on am and ssb. The best way to learn is listen. The three most used repeaters in phoenix are probably shaw butte, white tanks, and the superstition repeater which is in the power and brown area near red mountain. Brian On Jun 18, 2014 6:03 AM, "Jack Travis ae8p@... [FT-60]" <FT-60@...> wrote: ? There is no “correct”, but commonly you would say “AE8P listening”. ?Substitute your call for AE8P. ?CQ is more commonly used on HF radio and not 2 meters or 440. ? Jack, ae8p ? ? ? ? ? On Jun 18, 2014, at 12:36 AM, Rick Sparber rgsparber.ya@... [FT-60] <FT-60@...> wrote: ? ? Jack, ? I first said CQ 3 times and followed it with my call sign. Isn't that correct? KG7MQL
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I travel to LA and San Diego for business and have noticed the same thing.? Lots of repeaters and no one using them.
As others have said here, don't call CQ on 2 Meters, just throw out your call sign.? If you hear the repeater tone or ID, you've probably hit it, although your signal may not be intelligible if you're running low power off the rubber antenna or are far away from the repeater.? Some repeaters are alligators...all mouth but no ears. |
开云体育That is a great analogy. ? 73, ? Rick KG7MQL ? From: FT-60@... [mailto:FT-60@...]
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 9:40 AM To: FT-60@... Subject: [FT-60] Re: not very exciting start ? ? I travel to LA and San Diego for business and have noticed the same thing.? Lots of repeaters and no one using them. |
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On Jun 18, 2014, at 5:59 AM, "Brian Amos bamos1@... [FT-60]" <FT-60@...> wrote:
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