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I have noticed that my FT-60 will NOT store the power setting for a repeater frequency. I can manually set the Tx power setting to LOW, and it will keep that setting. If I turn off the power or change batteries, the FT-60 changes to High power. On High power, after pushing the PTT switch then, it will not transmit, like it is being over powered.and shuts down. Any suggestions? Jim KQ6VP


 

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You have to save the new settings in the same memory slot. ?Also sounds like you need a new battery. ?You are not plugged into the wall wart, are you? ?The wall wart cannot provide enough oomph to transmit on high. Using a 12 volt adapter could be used as long as your power supply puts out over 3 amps.?

Jardy Dawson WA7JRD

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On May 25, 2021, at 21:20, Jim Nordstrom <fbnoodleman@...> wrote:

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I have noticed that my FT-60 will NOT store the power setting for a repeater frequency. I can manually set the Tx power setting to LOW, and it will keep that setting. If I turn off the power or change batteries, the FT-60 changes to High power. On High power, after pushing the PTT switch then, it will not transmit, like it is being over powered.and shuts down. Any suggestions? Jim KQ6VP


 

Thanks Hardy. I have several batteries and have charged them, but it does not seem to change anything. I set the power on low and hit the PTT. Works fine, but I'd I turn off the radio, and then turn back on, the power setting is lost. Maybe all the batteries are bad, they were purchased a few years ago. When I put them into the radio and start the power cycle, they show 8.3, 8.0, etc. But will not let the radio transmit, it shuts down, and goes to receive only. If I then go to the power setting, and set as low or mid range, all works fine. Like you suggested, maybe the batteries can't hold a charge. Any other suggestions? Jim kq6vp.


On Tue, May 25, 2021, 10:05 PM JARDY DAWSON via <JARDY72=[email protected]> wrote:
You have to save the new settings in the same memory slot.? Also sounds like you need a new battery.? You are not plugged into the wall wart, are you?? The wall wart cannot provide enough oomph to transmit on high. Using a 12 volt adapter could be used as long as your power supply puts out over 3 amps.?

Jardy Dawson WA7JRD

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On May 25, 2021, at 21:20, Jim Nordstrom <fbnoodleman@...> wrote:

?
I have noticed that my FT-60 will NOT store the power setting for a repeater frequency. I can manually set the Tx power setting to LOW, and it will keep that setting. If I turn off the power or change batteries, the FT-60 changes to High power. On High power, after pushing the PTT switch then, it will not transmit, like it is being over powered.and shuts down. Any suggestions? Jim KQ6VP


 

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This is Jardy. If you want the power setting change to be permanent, make the change then SAVE the new settings in the same channel number. If you don’t save it, the changes will be temporary.?

Jardy Dawson WA7JRD

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On May 26, 2021, at 07:12, Jim Nordstrom <fbnoodleman@...> wrote:

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Thanks Hardy. I have several batteries and have charged them, but it does not seem to change anything. I set the power on low and hit the PTT. Works fine, but I'd I turn off the radio, and then turn back on, the power setting is lost. Maybe all the batteries are bad, they were purchased a few years ago. When I put them into the radio and start the power cycle, they show 8.3, 8.0, etc. But will not let the radio transmit, it shuts down, and goes to receive only. If I then go to the power setting, and set as low or mid range, all works fine. Like you suggested, maybe the batteries can't hold a charge. Any other suggestions? Jim kq6vp.

On Tue, May 25, 2021, 10:05 PM JARDY DAWSON via <JARDY72=[email protected]> wrote:
You have to save the new settings in the same memory slot.? Also sounds like you need a new battery.? You are not plugged into the wall wart, are you?? The wall wart cannot provide enough oomph to transmit on high. Using a 12 volt adapter could be used as long as your power supply puts out over 3 amps.?

Jardy Dawson WA7JRD

Message sent by....Oh look!! Pretty lights!!


On May 25, 2021, at 21:20, Jim Nordstrom <fbnoodleman@...> wrote:

?
I have noticed that my FT-60 will NOT store the power setting for a repeater frequency. I can manually set the Tx power setting to LOW, and it will keep that setting. If I turn off the power or change batteries, the FT-60 changes to High power. On High power, after pushing the PTT switch then, it will not transmit, like it is being over powered.and shuts down. Any suggestions? Jim KQ6VP


 

Hardy, sorry about the mis spelling of your name, big fingers, and I did not proof read my email. The more I think about it, it must be a battery issue. Don't know how long No cad batteries last, I suspect? that I have had them I service for years. I just thought it was unusual for the radio to show over 7.5 volts and could not retain the memory for the power setting. I love my FT_60 and hope by changing the batteries it will solve my issue. Thanks, regards Jim KQ6VP


On Wed, May 26, 2021, 7:30 AM JARDY DAWSON via <JARDY72=[email protected]> wrote:
This is Jardy. If you want the power setting change to be permanent, make the change then SAVE the new settings in the same channel number. If you don’t save it, the changes will be temporary.?

Jardy Dawson WA7JRD

Message sent by....Oh look!! Pretty lights!!


On May 26, 2021, at 07:12, Jim Nordstrom <fbnoodleman@...> wrote:

?
Thanks Hardy. I have several batteries and have charged them, but it does not seem to change anything. I set the power on low and hit the PTT. Works fine, but I'd I turn off the radio, and then turn back on, the power setting is lost. Maybe all the batteries are bad, they were purchased a few years ago. When I put them into the radio and start the power cycle, they show 8.3, 8.0, etc. But will not let the radio transmit, it shuts down, and goes to receive only. If I then go to the power setting, and set as low or mid range, all works fine. Like you suggested, maybe the batteries can't hold a charge. Any other suggestions? Jim kq6vp.

On Tue, May 25, 2021, 10:05 PM JARDY DAWSON via <JARDY72=[email protected]> wrote:
You have to save the new settings in the same memory slot.? Also sounds like you need a new battery.? You are not plugged into the wall wart, are you?? The wall wart cannot provide enough oomph to transmit on high. Using a 12 volt adapter could be used as long as your power supply puts out over 3 amps.?

Jardy Dawson WA7JRD

Message sent by....Oh look!! Pretty lights!!


On May 25, 2021, at 21:20, Jim Nordstrom <fbnoodleman@...> wrote:

?
I have noticed that my FT-60 will NOT store the power setting for a repeater frequency. I can manually set the Tx power setting to LOW, and it will keep that setting. If I turn off the power or change batteries, the FT-60 changes to High power. On High power, after pushing the PTT switch then, it will not transmit, like it is being over powered.and shuts down. Any suggestions? Jim KQ6VP


 

This cell phone did it again, Jardy, not Hardy. Thanks for your help. Jim


On Wed, May 26, 2021, 7:30 AM JARDY DAWSON via <JARDY72=[email protected]> wrote:
This is Jardy. If you want the power setting change to be permanent, make the change then SAVE the new settings in the same channel number. If you don’t save it, the changes will be temporary.?

Jardy Dawson WA7JRD

Message sent by....Oh look!! Pretty lights!!


On May 26, 2021, at 07:12, Jim Nordstrom <fbnoodleman@...> wrote:

?
Thanks Hardy. I have several batteries and have charged them, but it does not seem to change anything. I set the power on low and hit the PTT. Works fine, but I'd I turn off the radio, and then turn back on, the power setting is lost. Maybe all the batteries are bad, they were purchased a few years ago. When I put them into the radio and start the power cycle, they show 8.3, 8.0, etc. But will not let the radio transmit, it shuts down, and goes to receive only. If I then go to the power setting, and set as low or mid range, all works fine. Like you suggested, maybe the batteries can't hold a charge. Any other suggestions? Jim kq6vp.

On Tue, May 25, 2021, 10:05 PM JARDY DAWSON via <JARDY72=[email protected]> wrote:
You have to save the new settings in the same memory slot.? Also sounds like you need a new battery.? You are not plugged into the wall wart, are you?? The wall wart cannot provide enough oomph to transmit on high. Using a 12 volt adapter could be used as long as your power supply puts out over 3 amps.?

Jardy Dawson WA7JRD

Message sent by....Oh look!! Pretty lights!!


On May 25, 2021, at 21:20, Jim Nordstrom <fbnoodleman@...> wrote:

?
I have noticed that my FT-60 will NOT store the power setting for a repeater frequency. I can manually set the Tx power setting to LOW, and it will keep that setting. If I turn off the power or change batteries, the FT-60 changes to High power. On High power, after pushing the PTT switch then, it will not transmit, like it is being over powered.and shuts down. Any suggestions? Jim KQ6VP


 

You are using NiCd packs?

Original packs for the FT-60R have been NiMH. Charged properly, they should last about 750 discharge-charge cycles.

But the original AC wall wart that shipped with truen was not intelligent - just threw constant current into the packs.

--
Clint Bradford K6LCS
http//www.work-sat.com


 

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If you don’t re-save the new settings it won’t stick. Look up how to save to memory. Use the same channel number as the original channel. You have 2 totally separate issues here.?

BTW, I think you have autocorrect on, and that’s changing my name from Jardy to Hardy.?

Jardy Dawson WA7JRD

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On May 26, 2021, at 15:32, Jim Nordstrom <fbnoodleman@...> wrote:

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Hardy, sorry about the mis spelling of your name, big fingers, and I did not proof read my email. The more I think about it, it must be a battery issue. Don't know how long No cad batteries last, I suspect? that I have had them I service for years. I just thought it was unusual for the radio to show over 7.5 volts and could not retain the memory for the power setting. I love my FT_60 and hope by changing the batteries it will solve my issue. Thanks, regards Jim KQ6VP

On Wed, May 26, 2021, 7:30 AM JARDY DAWSON via <JARDY72=[email protected]> wrote:
This is Jardy. If you want the power setting change to be permanent, make the change then SAVE the new settings in the same channel number. If you don’t save it, the changes will be temporary.?

Jardy Dawson WA7JRD

Message sent by....Oh look!! Pretty lights!!


On May 26, 2021, at 07:12, Jim Nordstrom <fbnoodleman@...> wrote:

?
Thanks Hardy. I have several batteries and have charged them, but it does not seem to change anything. I set the power on low and hit the PTT. Works fine, but I'd I turn off the radio, and then turn back on, the power setting is lost. Maybe all the batteries are bad, they were purchased a few years ago. When I put them into the radio and start the power cycle, they show 8.3, 8.0, etc. But will not let the radio transmit, it shuts down, and goes to receive only. If I then go to the power setting, and set as low or mid range, all works fine. Like you suggested, maybe the batteries can't hold a charge. Any other suggestions? Jim kq6vp.

On Tue, May 25, 2021, 10:05 PM JARDY DAWSON via <JARDY72=[email protected]> wrote:
You have to save the new settings in the same memory slot.? Also sounds like you need a new battery.? You are not plugged into the wall wart, are you?? The wall wart cannot provide enough oomph to transmit on high. Using a 12 volt adapter could be used as long as your power supply puts out over 3 amps.?

Jardy Dawson WA7JRD

Message sent by....Oh look!! Pretty lights!!


On May 25, 2021, at 21:20, Jim Nordstrom <fbnoodleman@...> wrote:

?
I have noticed that my FT-60 will NOT store the power setting for a repeater frequency. I can manually set the Tx power setting to LOW, and it will keep that setting. If I turn off the power or change batteries, the FT-60 changes to High power. On High power, after pushing the PTT switch then, it will not transmit, like it is being over powered.and shuts down. Any suggestions? Jim KQ6VP


 

Clint

I bought my first FT-60 back in circa 2012 or 2013. It was a novel package
but it did not do as well as my old Kenwood 7800 as far as kicking off distant
repeaters. Never could find the right antenna to work with distant machines
beyond running a half wave dipole on it. Of course the 7800 did not have PL
tone or I would have used it right on.

A few years after buying the FT-60 my then wife got a mad on and tossed a
lot of my gear one day. Fortunately she did not find the FT-60 but she did
toss the Charging Stand and a back up FT-840 HF rig. Arrrrgh. So I allowed
the FT-60 to languish a couple of years until finances settled down and the
wife became the X.

I was flying out of town on business and tossed the FT-60 in the luggage.
When I arrived and unpacked in the hotel room, turned the knob to see
the voltage indicate about 5.5 volts and then fade out. Next day after work
I drove over to the burg's local amateur radio store and purchased a new
battery and wall wart charger. A new charging stand was like$95.00. Whoa!
Back in the hotel room I placed the new battery on the radio and then inserted
the charger into the side plug.? The next morning upon checking the battery
was still at about 7 volts. That seemed odd. Returned that evening and began
investigating. It turned out there were some differing iterations of the FT 60
and the charging circuitry. Mine would not charge from the side plug, it
required a charging stand. Not sue why the radios were changed but if
you look at a later service manual you will find three different wiring lashups
on the side plug. The only thing I found that worked on my side plug on the
radio was a battery cable that plugged into the vehicle cigarette lighter
plug, and it only powered the radio, it did not charge the battery when
powered off.

Faced with having to dole out $95.00 or the whole box purchase at $160.00
I just bought a new radio and used the stand to charge both radio's batteries.
Later while looking on e-bay I spotted? Yaesu branded charging bases for the
FT-60 being sold for $25.00 out of China plus around $3.00 for shipping via
China Post. I figured it might be counterfeit but if nothing else, if the radio
fit I could always replicate charging circuit in mine using a breadboard.

Upon arrival I was surprised to find the base was pristine, just like my US
purchased Yaesu, even the mold marks were crisp like my US purchased
product. Lashing up a DVM and comparing the voltage on the charging
stand pins when the radios were setting in the charger revealed the China
source stand tracked the US purchased product within a few millivolts.
I could find no difference.? So I lucked out sort of. Now I have two radios
to track and keep charged.

With my last auto purchase there is a 110 VAC outlet next to the cigarette
lighter plug. So these days I keep one in the truck in the charger in a zipped
canvas bag on the hump plugged into the 110 outlet. The charger seems
to be ok with the pseudo sine wave of the inverter. Only problem I had was
once when stopped for running down the road at Warp Speed and the
police officer noticed the radio in the bag plugged into the outlet. He got all
grades of spun up wanting to know what the radio was for and what it did.
He was convinced I was a drug dealer monitoring police frequencies. It
became apparent he knew as much about radio as I knew about Neurosurgery,
zip, nada and big fat zero. Eventually I drove away but at least he knew hams
existed after I explained it to him.

I do miss knobs and thumbwheels but tech? marches forward. One day I will
set down and build a PL tone generator for the Kenwood handheld. That is
another retirement project. :-)

Regards

Chuck WD4HXG

I had a quick QSO that evening and noticed the battery seemed to drop
fairly fast. So I plugged it back into the wall wart

On May 26, 2021 at 6:38 PM, "Clint Bradford via groups.io" <clintbradford@...> wrote:

You are using NiCd packs?

Original packs for the FT-60R have been NiMH. Charged properly, they should last about 750 discharge-charge cycles.

But the original AC wall wart that shipped with truen was not intelligent - just threw constant current into the packs.

--
Clint Bradford K6LCS
http//