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Re: Mic Gain Adjustment

 

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As Clint points out, you may have the Deviation set to "Narrow" +/-2.5KHz instead of the default "Wide" +/-5KHz. See manual page 62.

The other possibility is the FT-60R Mic socket itself.
It is notorious for "spitting out" speaker/mic connectors. Elastic bands are one solution as mentioned elsewhere. That is what I currently use:-)
I also had many hours of hair-tearing frustration trying to get Chirp to connect via an after market programming lead.

The problem is the inside diameter of the recess at the connector is too small for the majority of (industry standard?) connector shells.
This results in the plug not fully seating, resulting in the connector contacts actually pushing the plug out instead of locking it in.

In my case with the programming lead, I carefully filled the moulded plastic body down to fit into the recess. That all works now.

In the case of the Heil mic, it could be that the connector body is fouling on the recess, preventing proper insertion of the plug.
Measure the mic plug body and the recess with a pair of vernier calipers to see if it will actually fit correctly.

A more universal fix would be to make up a Forstner type drill bit to ease out the connector recess in the FT-60R to the bigger "industry standard" diameter.
The difference is subtle, probably something like 6mm versus 1/4". Sorry, my calipers are in the shed, it is late at night here and it is bucketing down with rain.

HTH someone...Bob VK2ZRE



On 18/11/2024 9:13 am, Clint Bradford via groups.io wrote:

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Page 62-ish of our manuals.
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http//www.work-sat.com
Re: Another Headset Issue

 

The rubber bands they (used to?) have on broccoli?work well and last.

FWIW: I understand the issue isn't that something is broken in the FT-60 but rather that the round portion of the connector you are plugging?in is not quite the correct shape for the FT60.? I'm not sure what the correct shape is....

On Sun, Nov 17, 2024 at 12:16?PM Chris Smart via <ve3rwj=[email protected]> wrote:

A nice stout elastic band?
Re: Mic Gain Adjustment

 

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Page 62-ish of our manuals.
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Clint Bradford K6LCS
http//www.work-sat.com
Re: Mic Gain Adjustment

 

Let's simplify this. If purchased new from an authorized Heil and Yaesu dealer,?
that Heil mini-boom single-sided headset work great. There is no widespread?
problem with that combination of items.
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SO ... if the Heil isn't working well, the chance that it is defective is slim. A
possibility - but slim.
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A common error on our part is messing with the TX Deviation of the FT-60R.?
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Clint Bradford K6LCS
http//www.work-sat.com
Re: Mic Gain Adjustment

 

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Well...Heil's website is awful.? I don't think "Dynamic" refers to the microphone element type.? When you click on it it takes you to a review page.

If you click on "specs" it says...




73,

Gary K9GS


-------- Original message --------
From: Chris Smart <ve3rwj@...>
Date: 11/17/24 10:54 AM (GMT-05:00)
Subject: Re: [Yaesu-FT-60] Mic Gain Adjustment

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Well an electret microphone element must have DC bias to function.?

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On the product page at the Heil site, I see four links:

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DESCRIPTION

DYNAMIC

IC

SPECS

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Given that Dynamic and IC are separate items, I figure there is a difference that goes beyond the connector type.
Re: Mic Gain Adjustment

 

I have followed this process with success to improve transmit audio. ?https://youtu.be/R3Ovv5_TVNg?si=ZYNq_RZvCvk_aoT0
Re: Another Headset Issue

 

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A nice stout elastic band?
Another Headset Issue

 

I have several headsets/speaker mics to use with my FT-60Rs. The audio on all of them seems fine. My problem is with the plug. It seems the slightest jostling and the plug comes out just a little resulting in a dead key with no audio. Of course I cannot hear this in the earpiece, so I don't know it is happening until someone near me yells out "Open Mic".
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Has anybody found a good way to hold the plug in? I have several devices that use TRRS jacks and have no problem holding the plug, but both my FT-60Rs seem to have the issue.
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Michael WA7SKG
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Re: Mic Gain Adjustment

 

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Well an electret microphone element must have DC bias to function.?

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On the product page at the Heil site, I see four links:

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DESCRIPTION

DYNAMIC

IC

SPECS

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Given that Dynamic and IC are separate items, I figure there is a difference that goes beyond the connector type.
Re: Mic Gain Adjustment

 

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Well an electret microphone element must have DC bias to function.?

Maybe the Yaesu version of this headset uses a dynamic element?? I tried but failed to find an owners manual on the Heil website.



73,

Gary K9GS


-------- Original message --------
From: Chris Smart <ve3rwj@...>
Date: 11/17/24 10:02 AM (GMT-05:00)
Subject: Re: [Yaesu-FT-60] Mic Gain Adjustment

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Does the FT60 supply DC bias for the microphone element or is there a battery holder in the headset?

NEITHER.

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Icom is the brand usually supplying voltage to an electret element.
Re: Mic Gain Adjustment

 

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Does anyone have a suggestion for adjusting mic gain on the FT-60? I need to increase it to use a Heil HTHY headset.

As I said in my other reply, make sure you are talking into eather end of the capsule, not the side, and have it about an inch from your mouth, if not closer. Make sure the plug is firmly seated. I haven’t had a single problem with several HTH headsets for yaesu and Kenwood HT’s here.
Re: Mic Gain Adjustment

 

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Does the FT60 supply DC bias for the microphone element or is there a battery holder in the headset?

NEITHER.

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Icom is the brand usually supplying voltage to an electret element.
Re: Mic Gain Adjustment

 

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The Heil headset works fine here with both my FT-60 and FT-70.

Make sure the plug is firmly seated in the jack and the mic element is close to your mouth.

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Also, the two ends of that tiny barrel-shaped mic capsule are 180 degrees out of phase, to help cut down on background noise. Meaning, if you talk into the side of the barrel, between the two elements, you will sound thin and quiet.

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Re: Mic Gain Adjustment

 

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You shouldn't have to adjust the deviation.?

Are you sure the plug is FULLY seated in the jack?



73,

Gary K9GS


-------- Original message --------
From: Gary Landrum <gelandrum@...>
Date: 11/17/24 7:43 AM (GMT-05:00)
To: [email protected], k9gs@...
Subject: Re: [Yaesu-FT-60] Mic Gain Adjustment

Thanks Gary. It doesn't have a bettery, but someone else suggested adjusting the TX deviation. I'll look into that.

73

Gary KF0RKF






On Saturday, November 16, 2024 at 09:15:19 PM MST, Gary K9GS <k9gs@...> wrote:





Hi Clint,

Does the FT60 supply DC bias for the microphone element or is there a battery holder in the headset?




73,

Gary K9GS


-------- Original message --------
From: "Clint Bradford via groups.io" <clintbradford@...>
Date: 11/16/24 11:00 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Yaesu-FT-60] Mic Gain Adjustment

Have you messed with the TX deviation setting? That Heil setup has worked for me for many years.

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Clint Bradford K6LCS
http//www.work-sat.com
Re: Mic Gain Adjustment

Gary Landrum
 

Thanks Clint,
I'll look into that.

73

Gary KF0RKF

On Saturday, November 16, 2024 at 09:00:54 PM MST, Clint Bradford via groups.io <clintbradford@...> wrote:





Have you messed with the TX deviation setting? That Heil setup has worked for me for many years.

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Clint Bradford K6LCS
http//www.work-sat.com
Re: Mic Gain Adjustment

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Thanks Gary. It doesn't have a bettery, but someone else suggested adjusting the TX deviation. I'll look into that.

73

Gary KF0RKF

On Saturday, November 16, 2024 at 09:15:19 PM MST, Gary K9GS <k9gs@...> wrote:





Hi Clint,

Does the FT60 supply DC bias for the microphone element or is there a battery holder in the headset?




73,

Gary K9GS


-------- Original message --------
From: "Clint Bradford via groups.io" <clintbradford@...>
Date: 11/16/24 11:00 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Yaesu-FT-60] Mic Gain Adjustment

Have you messed with the TX deviation setting? That Heil setup has worked for me for many years.

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Clint Bradford K6LCS
http//www.work-sat.com
Re: Mic Gain Adjustment

 

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Hi Clint,

Does the FT60 supply DC bias for the microphone element or is there a battery holder in the headset?



73,

Gary K9GS


-------- Original message --------
From: "Clint Bradford via groups.io" <clintbradford@...>
Date: 11/16/24 11:00 PM (GMT-05:00)
Subject: Re: [Yaesu-FT-60] Mic Gain Adjustment

Have you messed with the TX deviation setting? That Heil setup has worked for me for many years.
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Clint Bradford K6LCS
http//www.work-sat.com
Re: Mic Gain Adjustment

 

Have you messed with the TX deviation setting? That Heil setup has worked for me for many years.
--
Clint Bradford K6LCS
http//www.work-sat.com
Re: Headset

 

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I'm not familiar with that headset but specs show an electret microphone element which must have bias applied to function.? I don't think the FT60 supplies bias.

Is there a place to put in a battery?? Maybe in the PTT switch housing?

Do you have a callsign?

73,

Gary K9GS


-------- Original message --------
From: "gelandrum via groups.io" <gelandrum@...>
Date: 11/16/24 10:03 PM (GMT-05:00)
Subject: Re: [Yaesu-FT-60] Headset

I put the Heil HTHY on my Yaesu FT-60. The earpiece sound quality was very good. However the mic gain was low based on the signal reports I received. Since the FT-60 doesn't have a mic gain setting, I am returning the Heil. Does anyone have recommendations for an affordable headset for the FT-60 that has solid mic gain?
Mic Gain Adjustment

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Does anyone have a suggestion for adjusting mic gain on the FT-60? I need to increase it to use a Heil HTHY headset.
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