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Aviation Frequencies Problem Solved
开云体育6/18/14? Wednesday morning ? ? Many thanks to Dave? WB6DHW, and Jim ?K5JG, for the solution to my problem.? Somehow the Operating Settings for aviation frequencies in my RT Systems software had been toggled from AM to FM, and I missed that detail in my troubleshooting.? Pilot error? ? Ockham's Razor, the solution with the fewest assumptions (eg? - the simplest) is usually the right one.? So, that new antenna I bought for the mobile wasn’t really necessary?? No wonder it had no effect.? Looks great, though.? J ? Never even thought of examining the database for the Operating Mode setting.? That WILL be the first thing I check next time. ? Mucho thanko, guys. ? Dean Herrington KF7KCL ? |
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Re: not very exciting start
开云体育That is a great analogy. ? 73, ? Rick KG7MQL ? From: FT-60@... [mailto:FT-60@...]
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 9:40 AM To: FT-60@... Subject: [FT-60] Re: not very exciting start ? ? I travel to LA and San Diego for business and have noticed the same thing.? Lots of repeaters and no one using them. |
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Re: not very exciting start
I travel to LA and San Diego for business and have noticed the same thing.? Lots of repeaters and no one using them.
As others have said here, don't call CQ on 2 Meters, just throw out your call sign.? If you hear the repeater tone or ID, you've probably hit it, although your signal may not be intelligible if you're running low power off the rubber antenna or are far away from the repeater.? Some repeaters are alligators...all mouth but no ears. |
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Re: not very exciting start
开云体育Brian, ? You wrote both 146.52 and 246.52. Which one is it or did you mean for me to try both? ? 73, ? Rick KG7MQL ? From: FT-60@... [mailto:FT-60@...]
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 5:59 AM To: FT-60@... Subject: Re: [FT-60] not very exciting start ? ? Sorry thats 146.52 for the simplex freq. Dang phone keyboard! On Jun 18, 2014 6:58 AM, "Brian Amos" <bamos1@...> wrote: You may want to try either calling with your callsign on simplex 246.52 (there are many people that listen there) or try checking in to the superstition drivetime net at 7am on weekday mornings.? Im not sure where you live exactly but with an ft-60 and a magmount you should be able to hit the superstition repeater. If you are using the radio inside your house with a rubber duck you may not be hitting the repeater even with everything set up properly.? One way to know is listen for a beep on the repeater after you release the ptt. I cant think of a repeater that doesn't have a courtesy tone in the phoenix area. If no beep you aren't getting in. You can probably get into the repeaters on south mountain from anywhere you can see south mountain as long as the antenna is outside. I've hit those with 2watts and the stock rubber duck from casa grande to anthem. The white tanks are another good bunch of repeaters as long as you are north of south mountain and between east mesa and palo verde nuke plant. If you can get into the newbie net on Thursday evening the guys there can help you get everything set up right. CQ is usually not used on repeaters.? The arrl has a beginners guide that goes through the lingo used on repeaters and that used on am and ssb. The best way to learn is listen. The three most used repeaters in phoenix are probably shaw butte, white tanks, and the superstition repeater which is in the power and brown area near red mountain. Brian On Jun 18, 2014 6:03 AM, "Jack Travis ae8p@... [FT-60]" <FT-60@...> wrote: ? There is no “correct”, but commonly you would say “AE8P listening”. ?Substitute your call for AE8P. ?CQ is more commonly used on HF radio and not 2 meters or 440. ? Jack, ae8p ? ? ? ? ? On Jun 18, 2014, at 12:36 AM, Rick Sparber rgsparber.ya@... [FT-60] <FT-60@...> wrote: ? ? Jack, ? I first said CQ 3 times and followed it with my call sign. Isn't that correct? KG7MQL
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Re: not very exciting start
开云体育Brian, ? I’m confused about operating simplex. I go to VFO and enter a frequency. It shows a “+” and “T” on the display. And consistent with the “+”, my transmit frequency does shift upward when I key in. Is the proper way to set this up to first set a frequency with the VFO, set the offset to off and disable tone. Then store it in memory? ? 73 Rick KG7MQL ? From: FT-60@... [mailto:FT-60@...]
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 5:58 AM To: FT-60@... Subject: Re: [FT-60] not very exciting start ? ? You may want to try either calling with your callsign on simplex 246.52 (there are many people that listen there) or try checking in to the superstition drivetime net at 7am on weekday mornings.? Im not sure where you live exactly but with an ft-60 and a magmount you should be able to hit the superstition repeater. If you are using the radio inside your house with a rubber duck you may not be hitting the repeater even with everything set up properly.? One way to know is listen for a beep on the repeater after you release the ptt. I cant think of a repeater that doesn't have a courtesy tone in the phoenix area. If no beep you aren't getting in. You can probably get into the repeaters on south mountain from anywhere you can see south mountain as long as the antenna is outside. I've hit those with 2watts and the stock rubber duck from casa grande to anthem. The white tanks are another good bunch of repeaters as long as you are north of south mountain and between east mesa and palo verde nuke plant. If you can get into the newbie net on Thursday evening the guys there can help you get everything set up right. CQ is usually not used on repeaters.? The arrl has a beginners guide that goes through the lingo used on repeaters and that used on am and ssb. The best way to learn is listen. The three most used repeaters in phoenix are probably shaw butte, white tanks, and the superstition repeater which is in the power and brown area near red mountain. Brian On Jun 18, 2014 6:03 AM, "Jack Travis ae8p@... [FT-60]" <FT-60@...> wrote: ? There is no “correct”, but commonly you would say “AE8P listening”. ?Substitute your call for AE8P. ?CQ is more commonly used on HF radio and not 2 meters or 440. ? Jack, ae8p ? ? ? ? ? On Jun 18, 2014, at 12:36 AM, Rick Sparber rgsparber.ya@... [FT-60] <FT-60@...> wrote: ? ? Jack, ? I first said CQ 3 times and followed it with my call sign. Isn't that correct? KG7MQL
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Re: Repeater question
开云体育Ron, ? Repeaterbook.com only showed one repeater in my area if I’m reading it right. But it was one that the other url didn’t have. ? Thanks, ? Rick KG7MQL ? From: FT-60@... [mailto:FT-60@...]
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 4:55 AM To: FT-60@... Subject: Re: [FT-60] Repeater question ? ? Hi Rick. I've used too. It's a great place to start.? Just beware sometimes it's not 100% accurate. I was in the Santa Fe area recently and was looking for an IRLP node and found a frequency. Connecting to the node was unsuccessful and then a local Ham operator came up on the radio and said it wasn't working.? ? Ron ? ?
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Re: not very exciting start
开云体育Larry, ? I did hear someone say “listening” and another person said “monitoring”. I was unable to reach either one of them. ? I’m confused by the nomenclature “04/64”. Say I had a repeater with 442.125? +5. How would you say that? ? ? 73 Rick KG7MQL ? From: FT-60@... [mailto:FT-60@...]
Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2014 9:38 PM To: FT-60@... Subject: Re: [FT-60] not very exciting start ? ? It's funny how CQ is common everywhere else, but not on 2m. ?I typically do something like "This is W5EIT listening on six-four", where "six-four" is the repeater output frequency (as in 04/64) or the simplex frequency I'm on. ? - Larry W5EIT |
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Re: got it!
开云体育Kelly, ? I looked a repeater frequencies near my zip code and did fine one. It was not one that I was monitoring but will do so now. ? Thanks, ? 73 Rick KG7MQL ? From: FT-60@... [mailto:FT-60@...]
Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2014 10:09 PM To: FT-60@... Subject: Re: [FT-60] Re: got it! ? ? Probably a repeater on the Calzona Link System.? ? ? 73 de AC7EW Kelly ? ?
Rick, You might have been listening to a repeater connected to the Winsystem. Go to? ?look up the repeater and see if it is on there. The winsystem is a series of repeater (approximately93 or so) connected via internet and rf all around the world. Check it out. Oh and congrats on getting your call.? ? James W. Murphy ? On Tuesday, June 17, 2014 9:00 PM, "'Rick - yahoo' rgsparber.ya@... [FT-60]" <FT-60@...> wrote: ? ? Kevin, ? A few nights ago I was outside with my FT-60 and heard a lot of chatter from CA. The frequency matched a repeater on the White Tank. Not sure how that all works but the discussion was great – a technical call in discussion. I will check out the New Ham Net on Thursday! ? 73, ? Rick KG7MQL ? From: FT-60@... [mailto:FT-60@...] ? ? Congratulations!? I hope to hear you on the air. ? I looked up your address on google maps and it looks like South Mountain will block you from the Any reapeaters on White Tanks or Shaw Butte.? You should be able to hit the Usery Pass repeater and anything on South Mountain, though.? You might try to check in to the New Ham Net on Thursday night.? That repeater is on South Mountain. ? Kevin KE7VIN |
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Re: got it!
开云体育James, ? I found a lot of useful information at winsystem.org. The nearest repeater is 10 miles away and I will check them out today. ? Thanks! ? 73, ? Rick KG7MQL ? From: FT-60@... [mailto:FT-60@...]
Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2014 9:38 PM To: FT-60@... Subject: Re: [FT-60] Re: got it! ? ? Rick, You might have been listening to a repeater connected to the Winsystem. Go to? ?look up the repeater and see if it is on there. The winsystem is a series of repeater (approximately93 or so) connected via internet and rf all around the world. Check it out. Oh and congrats on getting your call.? ? James W. Murphy ? On Tuesday, June 17, 2014 9:00 PM, "'Rick - yahoo' rgsparber.ya@... [FT-60]" <FT-60@...> wrote: ? ? Kevin, ? A few nights ago I was outside with my FT-60 and heard a lot of chatter from CA. The frequency matched a repeater on the White Tank. Not sure how that all works but the discussion was great – a technical call in discussion. I will check out the New Ham Net on Thursday! ? 73, ? Rick KG7MQL ? From: FT-60@... [mailto:FT-60@...] ? ? Congratulations!? I hope to hear you on the air. ? I looked up your address on google maps and it looks like South Mountain will block you from the Any reapeaters on White Tanks or Shaw Butte.? You should be able to hit the Usery Pass repeater and anything on South Mountain, though.? You might try to check in to the New Ham Net on Thursday night.? That repeater is on South Mountain. ? Kevin KE7VIN ? |
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Re: not very exciting start
开云体育I figured out my mistake. Although I set up to generate a tone and did set the tone’s frequency correctly, I did not save those settings correctly. That is all straightened out now (I think). But still no responses. However, I now do see the frequency shift the correct amount when I key in and I think I hear the tone back from the repeater. Just need someone to talk to. ? 73, ? Rick KG7MQL ? From: FT-60@... [mailto:FT-60@...]
Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2014 9:34 PM To: FT-60@... Subject: Re: [FT-60] not very exciting start ? ? I don’t believe doing CQ on 2 meters is normal practice. ?Try to ID with your call sign and see if anyone responds. ? Jack, ae8p ? ? ? ? On Jun 17, 2014, at 11:37 PM, 'Rick - yahoo' rgsparber.ya@... [FT-60] <FT-60@...> wrote: ? ? I think I have the frequencies and offsets plus PL set up right for the repeaters that are nearby but heard no traffic. I said a few CQs followed by my call sign in each channel but got nothing. I know I am transmitting because my voice came in on my scanner. That doesn’t mean that I unlocked the repeaters correctly or that my offsets are right. I’ll try again in the morning. ? Any suggestions? ? 73, ? Rick KG7MQL ? ? |
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Re: Repeater question
开云体育Kelly, ? That makes sense. South Mountain is north of me and all of those repeaters have a heading of north. ? 73 Rick KG7MQL ? From: FT-60@... [mailto:FT-60@...]
Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2014 9:22 PM To: FT-60@... Subject: RE: [FT-60] Repeater question ? ? I just installed the Android app on my tablet. ?It looks like Repeater Heading is the direction from you to the repeater. ?The app uses GPS to determine your location then lets you know where the repeaters are in relation to you. ? 73 de AC7EW Kelly |
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Re: not very exciting start
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When I took my test, all of the VEs were rather old. But those taking the tests were all in their 30s to 60s. So there is hope that the "no code" change is bringing in a new crop of hams. Rick -----Original Message-----
From: FT-60@... [mailto:FT-60@...] Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2014 9:05 PM To: FT-60@... Subject: [FT-60] Re: not very exciting start I've noticed the same thing in MY area (Los Angeles), which USED TO BE really busy. But, over the past 20 years, with the proliferation of cell phones, texting and Facebook, etc., it seems that there's not as much chatter on the radio as there used to be. One formerly popular repeater here, which has coverage from slightly north of Los Angeles all the way down to San Diego, remains quiet nearly all day now. When I first got my license, in 1986, this repeater was so busy you couldn't break in no matter how mars you tried. It was constant chatter 24/7 on that machine. I'll spin the dial and go through all my 2m and 440 repeaters I've got programmed in my radio and often won't hear a darned thing on any one of them. These are the times. On the plus side, it's almost like having a private repeater whenever you want to have one since nobody else seems to be on it anymore. Mark KB6KGX ------------------------------------ ------------------------------------ ------------------------------------ Yahoo Groups Links |
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Re: not very exciting start
开云体育Correct. Though not technically wrong, calling "CQ" is not generally done when using repeaters.? On Jun 18, 2014, at 5:03 AM, "Jack Travis ae8p@... [FT-60]" <FT-60@...> wrote:
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Re: Repeater question
Any repeater lookup source is only as accurate as the information that is reported to it.?I know of some where the repeater was?taken down,?moved or the tone changed and the owner hadn't reported the change or has taken their time doing so. ? 73, John N4SME ? On Wednesday, June 18, 2014 7:55 AM, "kg7dju kg7dju@... [FT-60]"
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Re: not very exciting start
Sorry thats 146.52 for the simplex freq. Dang phone keyboard! On Jun 18, 2014 6:58 AM, "Brian Amos" <bamos1@...> wrote:
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Re: not very exciting start
You may want to try either calling with your callsign on simplex 246.52 (there are many people that listen there) or try checking in to the superstition drivetime net at 7am on weekday mornings.? Im not sure where you live exactly but with an ft-60 and a magmount you should be able to hit the superstition repeater. If you are using the radio inside your house with a rubber duck you may not be hitting the repeater even with everything set up properly.? One way to know is listen for a beep on the repeater after you release the ptt. I cant think of a repeater that doesn't have a courtesy tone in the phoenix area. If no beep you aren't getting in. You can probably get into the repeaters on south mountain from anywhere you can see south mountain as long as the antenna is outside. I've hit those with 2watts and the stock rubber duck from casa grande to anthem. The white tanks are another good bunch of repeaters as long as you are north of south mountain and between east mesa and palo verde nuke plant. If you can get into the newbie net on Thursday evening the guys there can help you get everything set up right. CQ is usually not used on repeaters.? The arrl has a beginners guide that goes through the lingo used on repeaters and that used on am and ssb. The best way to learn is listen. The three most used repeaters in phoenix are probably shaw butte, white tanks, and the superstition repeater which is in the power and brown area near red mountain. Brian
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Re: not very exciting start
开云体育There is no “correct”, but commonly you would say “AE8P listening”. ?Substitute your call for AE8P. ?CQ is more commonly used on HF radio and not 2 meters or 440.
Jack, ae8p
On Jun 18, 2014, at 12:36 AM, Rick Sparber rgsparber.ya@... [FT-60] <FT-60@...> wrote: Jack, I first said CQ 3 times and followed it with my call sign. Isn't that correct? Rick KG7MQL
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Re: not very exciting start
开云体育There is no “correct”, but commonly you would say “AE8P listening”. ?Substitute your call for AE8P. ?CQ is more commonly used on HF radio and not 2 meters or 440.
Jack, ae8p
On Jun 18, 2014, at 12:36 AM, Rick Sparber rgsparber.ya@... [FT-60] <FT-60@...> wrote: Jack, I first said CQ 3 times and followed it with my call sign. Isn't that correct? Rick KG7MQL
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Re: not very exciting start
It's not common to say "CQ" on repeaters, just say your call sign and that you are listening, like Larry said.? I simply say, "W5ETA, listening", it's also common to say, "W5ETA, mobile" (when you are in your vehicle).? Either way, that's how it's done on FM repeaters, at least in my neck of the woods. Welcome to the hobby and congrats! On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 11:38 PM, 'L. Floyd' sonomadiver@... [FT-60] <FT-60@...> wrote:
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Re: Repeater question
kg7dju
开云体育Hi Rick. I've used too. It's a great place to start.? Just beware sometimes it's not 100% accurate. I was in the Santa Fe area recently and was looking for an IRLP node and found a frequency. Connecting to the node was unsuccessful and then a local Ham operator came up on the radio and said it wasn't working.? Here's another source for frequencies: Ron On Jun 17, 2014, at 3:26 PM, "'Rick - yahoo' rgsparber.ya@... [FT-60]" <FT-60@...> wrote:
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