How Do I Connect Everything Togethe?

Les Waters All Messages By This Member #13 Hello This is my first post to this group. I am hoping to learn more about some of the features on the YD7001. ?I have just upgraded my DR5000 to a YD7001 which was very easy and straightforward. ?I have for over five years had an ECoS 52000 linked to a PC running TrainController Gold using a dedicated router via LAN to connect them together. ?This has always worked well and I had no problems. ?However, I wanted to upgrade to a DR5000 and I began to understand how little I know about the various DCC protocols involved. Karst has been very helpful and suggested I use the USB connection to my PC (using Intellibox II as the command station) which will connect to TC. ?However, I also use the Smarthand optional extra on TC which let me operate the whole layout using smart devices over my routers Wi-Fi. ?This is where I start to get confused with the YD7001. ?It has its own internal Wi-Fi, so does this mean I can connect smart phones and tablets to TC via the YD7001. ?Alternatively, can I connect my old router to the YD7001 and PC as an overlay network and connect smart devices to TC that way. i was also hoping to use LocoNet occupancy detectors using the DR5000 and had started to install them on my layout. ?However, Karst informed me that TC does not support LocoNet over LAN so that option is out of the question. ?So, is there a way of achieving everything I want to achieve, or does something have to change? My apologies for for being ignorant on these connectivity issues. Many thanks. Les
karst.drenth All Messages By This Member #14 Hi Les, ? Welcome here as well :) ? Unfortunately I do not have sufficient knowledge about the workings of TC's Smarthand? What I can tell you is that the YD9401 Module does not bridge traffic from WiFi to LAN and vice versa. Running any control software ( not specific TC ) over WiFi I would never recommend as it is implied unreliable. In general we advise ( and designed ;) ) the YD9401 WiFI to be used by handheld controllers like phone apps, WLAN? mice, TCS Throttles, wiFREDs, etc. ? Greets, Karst
Alexander Wood All Messages By This Member #16 Les, What specific functionality?are?you looking for? An ESU ECoS with TC Gold is a pretty substantial setup. You'd still need a network for?+SmartHand, the Wi-Fi on the YD7001 would be WiThrottle or Z21 directly to the command station. Alex toggle quoted message Show quoted text On Sat, Mar 18, 2023 at 2:32?AM Les Waters <les.waters1@...> wrote: Hello This is my first post to this group. I am hoping to learn more about some of the features on the YD7001.? I have just upgraded my DR5000 to a YD7001 which was very easy and straightforward.? I have for over five years had an ECoS 52000 linked to a PC running TrainController Gold using a dedicated router via LAN to connect them together.? This has always worked well and I had no problems.? However, I wanted to upgrade to a DR5000 and I began to understand how little I know about the various DCC protocols involved. Karst has been very helpful and suggested I use the USB connection to my PC (using Intellibox II as the command station) which will connect to TC.? However, I also use the Smarthand optional extra on TC which let me operate the whole layout using smart devices over my routers Wi-Fi.? This is where I start to get confused with the YD7001.? It has its own internal Wi-Fi, so does this mean I can connect smart phones and tablets to TC via the YD7001.? Alternatively, can I connect my old router to the YD7001 and PC as an overlay network and connect smart devices to TC that way. i was also hoping to use LocoNet occupancy detectors using the DR5000 and had started to install them on my layout.? However, Karst informed me that TC does not support LocoNet over LAN so that option is out of the question.? So, is there a way of achieving everything I want to achieve, or does something have to change? My apologies for for being ignorant on these connectivity issues. Many thanks. Les -- Alexander Wood Hartford-New Haven, CT Modeling the modern era freelanced G&W Connecticut Northern in HO Digikeijs DR5000 - JMRI - ProtoThrottle - TCS UWT-100 - TCS UWT-50p - Digitrax Simplex
PaulXpress All Messages By This Member #18 Hello Les Waters By saying "I have just upgraded my DR5000 to a YD7001 which was very easy and straightforward.", do you mean that you loaded the YD7001 firmware on the DR5000? Many thanks. PaulXpress
Les Waters All Messages By This Member #19 PaulXpress There was a bit more to it than that. ?You first have to replace the exiting DR5000 daughterboard. ?I purchased a YD9401 daughter board from DCCTrainAutomation in the UK. Carefully read ?the instructions on the YaMoRC website. ?There is also a video on YouTube on how to upgrade the DR5000. ?You will void the existing DR5000 warranty by upgrading but mine had expired anyway. ?It was then a case of following the instructions as described. ?I had no problems at all but I am confident with electronics. Regards Les
Les Waters All Messages By This Member #20 Alex i have had an ECoS for 15 years now. ?Originally I had a black and white one (50000) and then a couple of years later I upgraded to a colour screen version (52000). ?So it is quite old now. ?The DR5000 looked to be a good option to upgrade from the ECoS. ?As I had TrainController (TC), I had no need for knobs, buttons or a screen on the Command Station. ?However, I could never get the DR5000 to interface to TC. ?The DR5000 was not even a listed system on TC which did not help. ?Advice on a couple of forums from some knowledgable people suggested using the Z21 protocol. ?But it still didn’t work despite following the suggested advice/settings to the letter. As I have not known anything other than the ECoS and TC my knowledge of other systems and protocols is zero. ?But I still want to upgrade from the ECoS preferably using some control software like TC. ?So I am happy with the YD7001 as my command station. ?I had hoped to keep TC but I am willing to change if I have to. In answer to your question, I would like to use the YD7001 with LocoNet occupancy detectors, control system software and all operated from smart phones/pads. Many thanks for your reply. Regards Les
Alexander Wood All Messages By This Member #21 Les, I'm not really sure I'd call anything an "upgrade" from the ESU ECoS, as that's a very powerful and feature-filled system, but if you want to try something new, the YD7001 is a great place to start. I'm not sure how you're "supposed" to connect a DR5000 to TC, but the most likely way I'd think of would be through a LocoNet connection with a DCS100 selected as the command station, as the DR5000 is basically a emulating a DCS100 from a LocoNet perspective. If you're going to use touchscreens, I'd recommend staying with?+SmartHand and running everything through that with your separate network so that you have all the features of TC, and not using the YD7001's Wi-Fi network. If you do want to add WLANMaus or UWT physical controllers, you could do that through the YD7001's built-in Wi-Fi, but I'm not sure if it would mirror the speed commands to LocoNet so that TC could track the speed of trains controlled with those controllers. Alex toggle quoted message Show quoted text On Sun, Mar 19, 2023 at 8:20?AM Les Waters <les.waters1@...> wrote: Alex i have had an ECoS for 15 years now.? Originally I had a black and white one (50000) and then a couple of years later I upgraded to a colour screen version (52000).? So it is quite old now.? The DR5000 looked to be a good option to upgrade from the ECoS.? As I had TrainController (TC), I had no need for knobs, buttons or a screen on the Command Station.? However, I could never get the DR5000 to interface to TC.? The DR5000 was not even a listed system on TC which did not help.? Advice on a couple of forums from some knowledgable people suggested using the Z21 protocol.? But it still didn’t work despite following the suggested advice/settings to the letter. As I have not known anything other than the ECoS and TC my knowledge of other systems and protocols is zero.? But I still want to upgrade from the ECoS preferably using some control software like TC.? So I am happy with the YD7001 as my command station.? I had hoped to keep TC but I am willing to change if I have to. In answer to your question, I would like to use the YD7001 with LocoNet occupancy detectors, control system software and all operated from smart phones/pads. Many thanks for your reply. Regards Les -- Alexander Wood Hartford-New Haven, CT Modeling the modern era freelanced G&W Connecticut Northern in HO Digikeijs DR5000 - JMRI - ProtoThrottle - TCS UWT-100 - TCS UWT-50p - Digitrax Simplex

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