I have a DR5000 connected to DR4088LN-CS Box loconet feedback module with add on S88 feedback module giving 32 Loconet sensors.

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They all report correctly when connected to the DR5000 cofiguration app and by the RocRail with address starting at 33 +32 (ending at 65)

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When using the Z21 app how do I set up the sensor track items?

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There is the selection for 5 different devices.

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Roco 10787 R-BUS

Blucher GBM16XL/XN Loconet

Uhlenbrock 63320 Loconet

Uhulenbrock Lissy Loconet

Roco 10808 CAN

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The question is which is the correct feedback type to use?

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If I reset the DR4088LN-CS start address to 1 then I can read the first 20 inputs on the Roco and Ulenbrock types on the z21 app but nothing above that.

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So how do I get the z21 app to display occupied tracks with loconet addresses of 33 up?

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Many thanks.

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Colin

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I have answered my own question.

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What works for me is to use the feedback module type Roco 10808 CAN which has two settings.

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RA - Report Address (1-20) is the first address of each block of 8 Inputs.

I - Input (1-8). Is the actual Input number of block of 8 Inputs.

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This then gives the following.

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With the first DR4088LN-CS set with a start address of 1 then the first 8 Inputs are

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Left Hand Input block terminals numbered1-8

Sensor 01 Input Terminal 1 = Roco setting RA=1 I=1

Sensor 02 Input Terminal 2 = Roco setting RA=1 I=2

Sensor 03 Input Terminal 3 = Roco setting RA=1 I=3

Sensor 04 Input Terminal 4 = Roco setting RA=1 I=4

Sensor 05 Input Terminal 5 = Roco setting RA=1 I=5

Sensor 06 Input Terminal 6 = Roco setting RA=1 I=6

Sensor 07 Input Terminal 7 = Roco setting RA=1 I=7

Sensor 08 Input Terminal 8 = Roco setting RA=1 I=8

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Right Hand Input block terminals numbered 9-16

Sensor 09 Input Terminal 09 = Roco setting RA=2 I=1

Sensor 10 Input Terminal 10 = Roco setting RA=2 I=2

Sensor 11 Input Terminal 11 = Roco setting RA=2 I=3

Sensor 12 Input Terminal 12 = Roco setting RA=2 I=4

Sensor 13 Input Terminal 13 = Roco setting RA=2 I=5

Sensor 14 Input Terminal 14 = Roco setting RA=2 I=6

Sensor 15 Input Terminal 15 = Roco setting RA=2 I=7

Sensor 16 Input Terminal 16 = Roco setting RA=2 I=8

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With the second DR4088 S88N-SC which has start Address of 17 because it is slaved from the first DR4088 then the first 8 Inputs.

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Left Hand Input block terminals numbered1-8

Sensor 17 Input Terminal 1 = Roco setting RA=3 I=1

Sensor 18 Input Terminal 2 = Roco setting RA=3 I=2

Sensor 19 Input Terminal 3 = Roco setting RA=3 I=3

Sensor 20 Input Terminal 4 = Roco setting RA=3 I=4

Sensor 21 Input Terminal 5 = Roco setting RA=3 I=5

Sensor 22 Input Terminal 6 = Roco setting RA=3 I=6

Sensor 23 Input Terminal 7 = Roco setting RA=3 I=7

Sensor 24 Input Terminal 8 = Roco setting RA=3 I=8

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Right Hand Input block terminals numbered 9-16

Sensor 25 Input Terminal 09 = Roco setting RA=4 I=1

Sensor 26 Input Terminal 10 = Roco setting RA=4 I=2

Sensor 27 Input Terminal 11 = Roco setting RA=4 I=3

Sensor 28 Input Terminal 12 = Roco setting RA=4 I=4

Sensor 29 Input Terminal 13 = Roco setting RA=4 I=5

Sensor 30 Input Terminal 14 = Roco setting RA=4 I=6

Sensor 31 Input Terminal 15 = Roco setting RA=4 I=7

Sensor 32 Input Terminal 16 = Roco setting RA=4 I=8

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If you then take this on to the next Feedback module whose first Input is sensor 33 then:

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Left Hand Input block terminals numbered1-8

Sensor 33 Input Terminal 1 = Roco setting RA=5 I=1

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Right Hand Input block terminals numbered 9-16

Sensor 40 Input Terminal 09 = Roco setting RA=5 I=1

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The next Feedback module whose first Input is sensor 49 then:

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Left Hand Input block terminals numbered1-8

Sensor 49 Input Terminal 1 = Roco setting RA=7 I=1

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Right Hand Input block terminals numbered 9-16

Sensor 56 Input Terminal 09 = Roco setting RA=8 I=1

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Etc.

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This does mean however that the top limit of sensors that the Z21 App in this configuration will display is 160 but only if you start numbering your DR4088 with address 1

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The first Roco setting is

First Sensor (1) Input Terminal 1 = Roco setting RA=1 I=1

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Should you start with your DR4088 at address 33 then the first Roco setting is

First Sensor (1) Input Terminal 1 = Roco setting RA=5 I=1

So the total number of sensors that the Z21 App will display will be 136

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Now I am not saying that this is the only or correct solution but it will work for me.

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Also note that this only applies to the new version of the Z21 App as the original version of the App does not have the Roco 10808 CAN type listed.

I think you are using Android version of the app. aren't you?
I already wrote to Roco that In the android version only reporteraddress 1-20 can be set for loconet responsemodule (uhlenbrock or Blucker), while iOS version allows reporteraddresss 1-2048 (see picture). They reply me that is a know bug, and should be solved in the next release.

The old android app has no such limit, you can select the Uhlenbrock 63320 and set address 1 to 9999.

On Fri, Jul 5, 2019 at 04:15 PM, Moreno Mazzini wrote:

I think you are using Android version of the app. aren't you?

Moreno.

Thank you for the reply, and yes it is the Android version.

I did think that it was strange that the reporteraddress had an upper limit of 20!

I wanted to use the current version of the App as I am sure that Roco will withdraw support for the origional.

I will check regularly for updates and hope that the bug is fixed soon

Many thanks

Colin :-)

Version 1.2.0 released. Bug is fixed!

Moreno

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The bug we are talking about in this topic, reporteraddress limited to 20 in the android version of the app.

On Thu, Aug 8, 2019 at 08:37 AM, Moreno Mazzini wrote:

Version 1.2.0 released. Bug is fixed!

Moreno

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Thank you for the alert, I have updated to Android version 1.2.0 and confirmed the Blucher Reportaddress is now 1 - 2048.

I will update my feedback adresses and then try them on the layout over this weekend and report back early next week.

Colin

Hi Moreno

I have addressed all of the Sensors using the Bucher Loconet module from 33 to 96 and all works fine.

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Thanks for the help.

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Colin