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YD7001 upgrade - withrottle setup questions.


 

HI all,

So yesterday was the day for the upgrade to my DR5000 to YD7001.
The upgrade went fine and I was pleased at how simple it was.? I had to do some work around configuration to get my setup back up and running.? By the end of the day yesterday my layout was live again and connection was working through USB to JMri.? The only issues I had were using the TCS throttle.? ?If connecting via the YD7001 nothing would work on withrottle but connecting via the house router it was fine.

So step forward to today, firewall was checked first off and found to be ok.? Then I moved the jmri setting and the PC connection to LAN and all was good.
After a a hour or two trying different settings in the TCS (along with a coffee break) I then went to the TYCS and factory reset it.
That sorted the connection issues out partially.
Now going via house router gives me full access to jmri roster and control
Going via the YD7001 gives me control at last but no access to the jmri roster.
So things are good, but I would like to know how I get access to the roster via the YD7001.? I have tried making changes to the settings in the TCS throttle to use the PC's IP address (as per the withrottle server in JMri) but no joy.
The only settings altered in the YD7001 was to turn off Z21 and Xpressnet and turn on the LB server (for Jmri)

regards

Doug Johnson


 

Doug,

The YD7001 does not yet support the JMRI roster. It has been requested to add support but it is not yet there.

Regards,
Bob Gamble


On Thu, Mar 14, 2024 at 12:57?PM Doug Johnson <dougjuk@...> wrote:

HI all,

So yesterday was the day for the upgrade to my DR5000 to YD7001.
The upgrade went fine and I was pleased at how simple it was.? I had to do some work around configuration to get my setup back up and running.? By the end of the day yesterday my layout was live again and connection was working through USB to JMri.? The only issues I had were using the TCS throttle.? ?If connecting via the YD7001 nothing would work on withrottle but connecting via the house router it was fine.

So step forward to today, firewall was checked first off and found to be ok.? Then I moved the jmri setting and the PC connection to LAN and all was good.
After a a hour or two trying different settings in the TCS (along with a coffee break) I then went to the TYCS and factory reset it.
That sorted the connection issues out partially.
Now going via house router gives me full access to jmri roster and control
Going via the YD7001 gives me control at last but no access to the jmri roster.
So things are good, but I would like to know how I get access to the roster via the YD7001.? I have tried making changes to the settings in the TCS throttle to use the PC's IP address (as per the withrottle server in JMri) but no joy.
The only settings altered in the YD7001 was to turn off Z21 and Xpressnet and turn on the LB server (for Jmri)

regards

Doug Johnson


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- Bob


 

Thanks Bob, I had a feeling that might be the case. ?My simple question is why I could go through the Wi-Fi of the DR5000 to the roster but not the YD7100. ?It¡¯s a backward step for me.

Regards

Doug.?


 

So I guess my question goes to Karst, I can make the TCS look for the IP address and port for the Withrottle server on the PC (jmri app) but it does not get through the router functions of the YD7001.

What do I need to do or is it a no go at the moment.

regards

Doug


 

If you don't want the TCS to connect to the WiThrottle service on the YD7001, then just turn that service off (assuming you don't need it for anything else). Then, when the TCS boots onto your network, it will only see the JMRI WiThrottle service.


 

I have tried that already.?

when I turn off the Withrottle in the YD7100 the TCS reports it cannot find Withrottle at all. ?I tried setting the address and port manually but it still does not work through.?

I assumed that this upgrade would just allow the DR5000 to turn into a router and allow this connection but it does not work like that for me. ?


 

Hmm strange.? Here's how it worked for me assuming I understand this is what you're after.

On my recently upgraded YD7001 connected to jmri using USB cable from my laptop (where jmri will be running) and the laptop is also connected to my home network via wifi.

1. Turned off Withrottle service on the YD7001 network panel (not the wifi panel).?
2. Started up jmri using the USB cable connected directly to YD7001 with the Digitrax/LocobufferUSB config in the jmri connections panel.
3. Manually started the Withrottle service within jmri ( it can be configured to autostart).
4. On my TCS throttle I added my home network and after it connected to it, it took another few seconds to find the Withrottle service running from jmri.

I did not have to enter any ip addresses. In fact with this kind of setup, you don't even need the YD7001 on your network at all.

You could try to reset the network panel to defaults and try again?


 

Hi,

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It looks to me that Doug is looking for the routing function of the DR5000... ( aka, connect to the WiFi and then gain access to the LAN network )

Well good news: That horrible security hole in the DR5000 Network module is no longer existent in the YD9401.

So if you want to use JMRI's WiThrottle you'll need to connect to a WiFi accesspoint that has secured access to the network that has JMRI connected to it.

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One thing for sure, that will never be in the YD9401.?

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Greets,

Karst

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H Karst,

Well thank you for letting me know at least I can now leave it alone as it is and save everyone's time.

The sad thing is several people had told me I was going to be able to do this, it is what I intended to do with my spare unit with my display layout. ?So that project is now killed and I will take time to consider what I do with the spare unit I have. ?

On a more positive note I think the YD7001 seems a more stable and reliable unit. ?I found a couple of my locomotives had to have the address rewritten. ?I had always had some concerns about the DR5000. ?Early days it would not read addresses that had been written by the ESU loksound programmer. ?

Being now routed via the home router I find the battery time on the TCS is shortened a little but I think the new setup is a bit more responsive.

So for the money I am happy with things as they are. ?

I may look at the spare unit later in the year.

regards

Doug Johnson


 

The sad thing is several people had told me I was going to be able to do this,

yep, that¡®s sad indeed. Unfortunately there is a lot of non-knowledge out there.

better ask ?The Master¡° himself ;)

greets,
karst